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Combine Scrimmage Notes - Part 1 & 2

Two of the NBA Combine scrimmages have been held. These scrimmages provide the potential draft prospects with an opportunity to plead their case to scouts and team representatives – out on the court where it matters. Sure, the metrics matter, but being able to jump through the roof is one thing…while actually being able to put the ball through the hoop is another…eye test still matters too.

Some did relatively well, and others did not shine all that much. Some may have even hurt their chances of being picked anywhere near the spots that some of them are being mocked at (we’ll get to David Roddy and Leonard Miller later).

A couple important observations for games 1 & 2:

· These teams (for both games) seemed to be made up of potential 2nd Rd picks – Undrafted type players.

· The 3PT shooting for both games was abysmal.

Team Weaver player Team Curry in the first game with a final score of - 81 vs 100 going the way of Team Curry. Here are a few notable stat lines for players that may be on the Spurs radar…

Team Weaver:

· Leonard Miller (tall combo forward): In 16 minutes of game play, he only scored 6pts – 30%FG, 0-6 3PT, 8 reb, 2ast. The kid hasn’t played any college and that just might be showing against college level players.

· Orlando Robinson (PF/C): In 24 minutes of game play, he scored 14pts on 57%FG and 1-2 3PT. He also added 3 reb, 3ast, and 3blks to his stat line. If he keeps playing like this, he might increase his chances of being drafted in the 2nd Rd. He would be a handy athletic big of the Spurs second unit.

· Terquavian Smith (Guard): In 24 minutes of game play, he scored 17pts on 35%FG and 3-10 3PT. He also added 6reb and 2ast to his stat line. This screams streaky volume shooter to me, and teams may baulk at choosing him in the late 1st Rd now.

Team Curry:

· Julian Champagnie (combo forward): In 14 minutes of game play, he scored 12pts on 50%FG and 2-5 3PT. He also added 4reb, 1ast, 1blk to his stat line. He is a player that I think the Spurs should be playing close attention to, especially for the 38th pick. He is an all-rounder forward that can play inside outside and has solid defensive abilities.

· Tyrese Martin (wing): In 14 minutes of game paly he scored 12pts on 46%FG and 2-5 3PT. He also added 5reb and 1ast to his stat line.

· Jabari Walker (combo F): In 17 min of game play, he scored 16pts on a very efficient 68%FG and 2-3 3PT. He also added 7reb,1ast, 1stl, and 2blks to his stat line. This game surely should have him moving up in the draft, particularly into the early 2nd Rd, or even late 1st Rd. The Spurs should have a closer look at Walker.

Team Erman played team Johnson in Game 2 of the Combine scrimmages, with a final score of 74 vs 73 going the way of Team Erman. Here are a few notable stat lines for players that may be on the Spurs radar…

Team Erman:

· Jalen Williams (wing): In 22 minutes of game play, he scored 11 pts, on 63%FG and 1-2 3PT shooting. He added 4reb, 1ast to his stat line. He had a solid shooting game and teams looking for a 3&D archetype player may look at him in the 2nd Rd.

· Dereon Seabron (wing): In 26 minutes of game play, he scored 17pts, on very efficient 63%FG, however he took no deep shots. He did add to his stat line with 5reb, 1ast, 2stl, 1blk. So, he seems to be a swiss-army knife type of player, who would be a solid role-player on an NBA roster. He’s not on many mocks that I’ve looked at recently at all, so he may have just played himself into the 2nd Rd. If he goes undrafted, he might be someone the Spurs look at for Austin. Potential sleeper…possibly!

· David Roddy (small combo forward): In 22 minutes of game play he scored just 2pts, on 20%FG and 0-4 3PT shooting. He did add 3reb, 1ast, 2stl to his stat line. Of the players in these two games Roddy perhaps had the most riding on his level of play. Mocks have him being drafted from anywhere in the late 1st Rd to the top 15 of the 2nd Rd. He might just have cemented himself into the 2nd Rd with this shocker of a game.

Team Johnson:

· Aminu Mohamed (wing): In 25 minutes of game play, he scored 12pts, on 50%FG and 1-2 3PT shooting. He added 6reb, 3ast, 1stl, 1blk to his stat line. He seems to be another 3&D archetype that might find themselves being drafted in the 2nd Rd. Another potential sleeper…perhaps!

· Drew Timme (forward): In 20 minutes of game play, he scored 13pts, on 67%FG and 1-3 3PT shooting. He added 5reb and 3ast to his stat line.


The next two games are set to be played within the next day or so, and I’m not sure the make-up of those teams, as in past years the four teams just swapped around and played a round-robin type of set-up. I will post a review of those games.

During Games 3 & 4, the teams continued their round-robin mini-tournament, with some players swapping teams - which did impact on game play, because a couple teams were mostly made up of forwards. Overall the deep shooting was a bit better, but that may have been in part due to some hot shooting by a player or two. The scores were higher, and the flow of the games seemed a little smoother. So here's what some of the players who stood out a little.

Game 3 - Team Weaver vs Team Johnson - Team Johnson beat Team Weaver 113 to 107.

Team Weaver:

  • Christian Braun (wing): In 28 minutes of game play, he scored 17pts, on 41%FG and 3-8 3PT shooting. He added 4reb,1ast and 2stl to his stat line. Some have him as a borderline 1st Rd pick...depends on whether he can become a solid 3&D Duncan Robinson type player.
  • John Butler Jr (big): In 31 minutes of game play, he scored 16pts, on 40%FG and 3-8 3PT shooting. He added 3reb, 1ast, 3stl and 3blks to his stat line. He has played very well at the combine, and may have solidified himself a 2nd Rd spot - he seems to be a fluid perimeter oriented big.
  • Kofi Cockburn (big): In 27 minutes of game play, he scored 19pts, on 88%FG. He added 11reb, 2stls to his stat line. he has also played really well at the combine, and shows to be a solid role-playing, 2nd Unit big, and has probably booked himself a gig in the 2nd Rd.
  • Andrew Nembhard (PG): In 30 minutes of game play, he scored 26pts, on 56%FG with 2-9 3PT. He added 2 reb, 11ast, 1stl, 1blk to his stat line. Even though his outside shot wasn't falling (he shot 38% in college) he got his team-mates involved with his high assist rate.
  • Orlando Robinson (big): In 27 minutes of game play, he scored 11pts, on 40%FG on 1-3 3PT. He added 7reb, 1ast, 1 stl, and 2blks to his stat line. he has also played really well at the combine, and shows to be a solid role-playing, 2nd Unit big, and has probably booked himself a gig in the 2nd Rd - similar to Cockburn.
Team Johnson:

  • Dominick Barlow (combo forward): In 22 minutes of game play, he scored 19pts, on 78%FG. He added 4reb, 4 ast and 2stls to his stat line. He tried out with the Spurs, so he might have increased his exposure with them with a solid showing against pro-level competition.
  • Hugo Besson (PG): In 26 minutes of game play, he scored 14pts, on 38%FG on 2-6 3PT. He added 4reb, 4ast, 2stls to his stat line. He played in the Australian NBL, so he already has high level pro experience like Lamelo Ball - was a team-mate with Dieng.
  • Darius Days (wing): In 23 minutes of game play, he scored 17pts, on 60%FG, with 3-7 3PT. He added 8reb, 1ast to his stat line. He could possibly a small ball 4, and may be a good stretch option.
  • Aminu Mohammed (wing): In 24 minutes of game play, he scored 18pts, on 50%FG but 0-2 3PT. He added 4reb, 3ast, 2stls, 1blk to his stat line. He's balled out at this combine, and may have just cemented a 2nd Rd spot. Projects to be a solid 3&D archetype - perhaps peak Danny Green.
  • Drew Timme (stretch big): In 24 minutes of game play, he scored 21pts, on 71%FG, with 4-5 3PT. He added 4reb, 1ast to his stat line. He has played very consistently during the combine, showed a solid inside/outside offensive skill set, and effective rebounding.
Game 4 - Team Erman vs Team Curry - Team Erman beat Team Curry 82 to 72.

Team Erman:
  • Moussa Diabate (big): In 23 minutes of game play, he scored 10pts, on 50%FG. He added 11reb, 5ast to his stat line. Hasn't really set himself aside from other bigs that are fighting for 2nd Rd spots, but he did show that he has the energy to be a solid role-player in a second unit, or rebounding focus.
  • Michael Foster Jr (big): In 25 minutes of game play, he scored 14pts, on 63%FG, with 1-2 3PT. He added 5reb, 1ast, 3blks to his stat line. He could be a solid role-playing 2nd unit player who fills the 4/5 small ball spot.
  • Dereon Seabron (wing): In 29 minutes of game play, he scored 15pts, on 60%FG, with 1-2 3PT. He added 5reb, 4ast to his stat line. He has played really well in the combine, and scouts have taken notice. Could be a rotation type player in the future, with a swiss-army knife skill set.
  • Jalen Williams (wing): In 27 minutes of game play, he scored 19pts, on 88%FG, with 2-2 3PT. He added 4reb, 1ast, 1 stl, 1blk to his stat line. Has played very well in the combine - THE SPURS NEED TO PICK THIS KID!!!
Team Curry:
  • Tyrese Martin (wing): In 31 minutes of game play, he scored 15pts, on 40%FG, with 3-7 3PT. He added 9reb, 3ast to his stat line. He may just nab a 2nd Rd spot with some all-round play.
  • Scottie Pippen Jr (guard): In 32 minutes of game play, he scored 21pts, on 44%FG, with 2-6 3PT. He added 2reb, 3ast, 2stl, 1blk to his stat line. For a small combo guard he shows good two-way potential. I could see him being a solid 2nd unit facilitator, he hustles on D, and looks for his team-mates.
  • Jabari Walker (big): In 28 minutes of game play, he scored 12pts, on 46%FG, with 0-2 3PT. He added 7reb, 1ast, 1stl to his stat line. He is one of the players who has lifted during the combine with good solid play, and may end up near the top of the 2nd Rd or if a team wants a plug n play sort of player in the late 1st Rd.

Further Notes:
  • Players who stunk it up in their second game include Julian Chapagnie, David Roddy, Ron Harper Jr, Keon Ellis....
  • Scottie Pippen Jr can play....

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