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The suspensions: I blame Steve Nash

It's a shame that tonight's game against the Suns isn't on national television (no, nbatv doesn't count) because we would be treated to about 70 replays of Robert Horry hip checking Steve Nash.  We would probably hear about how the Suns would have won it all, if not for that foul.  I would love to see the Phoenix broadcast of the game to hear their spin.  Certainly we will hear that Cheap Shot Rob made his impact on the series.  We will hear that Diaw and Stoudemire should have known better and not left the bench.  But the one thing we won't hear, is that it was Steve Nash's fault and he cost the Phoenix Suns the series against the Spurs in the '07 playoffs.

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First, let me make a couple things clear about how I see things.  Do I think Horry deserved a two game suspension?  No.  Do I think he should have been suspended one game?  No, not really.  The league's suspension policy is inconsistent to say the least.  The league says Horry was suspended one game for an excessive foul on Nash and another game for getting his elbow up in Raja Bell's "head and shoulder" area.  These two plays also took place in the same round of the playoffs and happened in the same game:

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The first one is just a very dangerous play.  Richardson was given a flagrant foul, but was not suspeneded.  The second one, and I admit the video is shitty and you can't see what happens, was a dirty play.  I saw it live and I will tell you what happens.  Baron misses his shot, trots up court, then angles back and elbows Derek Fisher.  He hits him in the shoulder and side of the head.  The kind of thing where it glances the elbow and then tags him against the ear.  The league didn't even fine Davis, much less suspend him.  


So, while I think Horry did knock Nash pretty good and in somewhat of a dangerous play, it wasn't as bad as either of the plays in Warriors-Jazz game.

Do I think Diaw and Stoudemire should have been suspended?  No, not really.  I think they were concerned about Nash's health, at least at firt.  I think if the foul had occurred anywhere else on the court, there is a good chance they wouldn't have left the immediate bench area.  But, a rule is a rule and an altercation did break out.

An altercation did break out, which is how the rule was interpreted.  I know David Stern says it is a black and white rule, but that's horseshit.  No rule is black and white.  Many Suns fans will be quick to point out that Duncan wasn't suspeneded for this.  

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The ruling, there was no altercation.  So, we get to my original point.  It was Steve Nash's fault.  


Let me remind people of a few things:  One, the Spurs beat the Suns in game 1 in Phoenix.  Steve responded with:


"Very surprising, very frustrating," he said. "How many times can you talk about it? We just have to have a bigger heart and continue to push through these invisible barriers that seem to pop up. I don't know what they are, but sometimes we just don't play as hard as we should."

After game 2, an easy Suns victory:

"I think our confidence did grow," Nash said. "I think this [Spurs] team has had a psychological hold on us . . . so I think it's important for us to break through that tonight."

And
"Tonight was a lot closer to what we need and in San Antonio it's going to have to be even more. It's probably good for us psychologically to know that we're capable of doing it. It'll give us some good feelings going down to San Antonio."

Then the Spurs beat them in game 3 which led to this great tirade from D'Antoni:


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I want to emphasize one line.  He said, "Very physical, well their half, now we have to make it our half".

So, to sum up, you have the team leader, Steve Nash, questioning the heart and desire of his players.  And, you have the coach bemoaning the physical nature of the series and how his team is not being physical.


I know you have been dying to see it, so here it is, The Foul


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I want you to watch around the 3:00 mark of this.  In particular, at 3:05.  Two things that are of interest here.  One, Stoudemire, is looking and walking passed Nash.  He is headed to the altercation.  He is NOT headed to Nash -- nor to check in.  But, whatever.  Two, watch Steve Nash.  He's just lying there holding the ball.  At first, stunned I would imagine.  Then, when he gathers his senses, he does what I find to be odd.  He jumps up and bolts for the skirmish.  Why didn't he just lay their in the revelation of a great comeback victory that had turned the tide in the series?  Why didn't he smile and think, "hey, now we are in their heads."  Well, he couldn't because he'd questioned the heart of his team and he had to show that he wasn't going to back down.  In essence, it became more about manliness than winning.  And when your priorities get messed up like that, when it becomes more about showing your toughness than winning, you will sometimes pay the price.


I also think a fair amount of blame should go to Raja Bell, their one naturally tough and physical player, for going after Horry.  If it hadn't been for Bell and Nash's actions, then there would not have been an altercation.  And if there had not been an altercation, then there would not have been any suspensions.


As a Spurs fan over the last couple years, I've seen Manu take some vicious shots.  Most notably the Nuggets series two years ago.  But, I don't recall Manu ever getting up and going after somebody like Nash did.  For Manu, it's always about winning.  He never questions his toughness, therefore, he doesn't have to show us that he is tough.  Nash had to show his teammates he was tough, and it cost them.

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Re: The suspensions: I blame Steve Nash
Couldn't agree with you more. But an additional point, and one that is given even more credence by the point you make about Nash bolting up suddenly to join the fray: Nash oversold the severity of the foul. He lay on the floor for a split second like he had just been run over by a bulldozer, trying to dramatize the "severity" of the blow. But that act came back to bite him (and the team, although the suspensions were not what decided the series) when other players, most notably Amare and Boris, ran to join the action. The fact is that Horry's hipcheck on Nash was no more severe than Jason Terry's shoulder into Tony when they played a couple of weeks ago. Terry just got a flagrant. Perhaps more importantly, that night alone there were several vicious intentional blows to Manu's HEAD, plus twice chickenshit Terry pulled Manu's limbs, once his leg, the other his arm, causing Manu to fall on his face. One was called a foul on Terry, the other on someone else, but neither was ruled a flagrant.

by agutierrez on Dec 17, 2007 11:26 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Re: The suspensions: I blame Steve Nash
I agree with most of that, but I'll take it one step further...the League is also to blame.  I think this scenario was a direct result of the "hack-a-shaq" rule.  All the Spurs were trying to do was foul somebody.  But, due to that stupid (IMO) rule, we had to chase the guy down to get that foul, so of course it was gonna look ugly.  Without the rule, we could have fouled anybody else.

Why did the NBA make a rule to benefit sorry free-throw shooters?  I understand a game like that is crappy to watch, but to change a rule to only be in effect the last 2 minutes of the game seems...inconsistent.

Anybody else agree?

by djollie111 on Dec 17, 2007 1:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Re: The suspensions: I blame Steve Nash
nash defnitely hammed it up to the hilt; soccer stlye if you will. if he would have popped right back up and took a few steps toward bob or whatever, there may have been a little bit of standing around and jawing, but that would have probably been it - no suspensions, nothing else.

it would all probably haven ended with bob saying "my bad."

so i'll say, yes that steve nash caused it, but i dont think that he had any idea that his teammates would react the way they did.  that was really what really caused the whole thing. agreed that if steve nash just got up like manu did, we would be talking about something else regarding this match-up.

during the "altercation" part of all this, bob did earn the gate for the elbow on raja bell, but i did not think he should have suspended beyond an ejection.

no question that steadywhiner was headed for a fight.  its sad, but the rule is pretty clear on that and i thought dave stern backed it up very proper when questioned. there is just no other way to interpret what is on that tape.  

as an aside, nobody wants to hang any blame on steadywhiner for his "dirty team" comments prior to game 6. way to go boss! first you take yourself out of a game by not having any composure and you compound this by providing your opponent with bulletin board material upon your return.  his undisciplined play also got him the hook with a bunch of fouls in game 3 as well. if he had shut up and played his game, like he did in 2005, the suns may well have beaten the spurs, but he didnt do that at ALL.

either way, its all in the past now. the championship shirts and hats that i purchased over the summer have no mention of this at all......

by bones on Dec 17, 2007 1:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Re: The suspensions: I blame Steve Nash
i think what most people are forgetting is that the game was not over yet and robert horry has the right to try to draw an offensive foul. he wouldn't be the first person to move a little while trying that.

i love that the suns fans are completely convinced that the suns would have won the series if not for the calculated move by robert horry. it just adds to his playoff folklore. and it gives me something to troll them with (now if they had any boards worth trolling).

by dmcnulla on Dec 21, 2007 7:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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