Why have our GREAT SCOUTS missed on this guy?
by Reylan on Feb 9, 2012 6:45 AM CST
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Height: 210cm / 6'11'' Position: Power Forward / Center Born: 1980 Weight: 106kg / 233.2lbs
Marcus Douthit's name might not ring a bell, especially if you haven't followed Asian basketball. I have quite intently watched this guy play for sometime now. He's of particular interest to me because he was naturalized by the Philippine government so that he could play for the Philippine team in FIBA Asia. During the FIBA Asia last year, he was among the, if not the, best big men in the entire tournament.
He is very disciplined on defense and has great timing. He handles the ball well for a big man and has a decent mid-range jumper and passing skills. He's fundamentally sound and I think if you would be able to see him play, you would not laugh at me saying that he's sort of like a poor man's Tim Duncan. Yes, he reminds me a lot of Timmeh... never flashy... very fundamental... but so efficient.
What I like most about him is that he's very composed and smart. Now, this brings me to the purpose of this post. I think he would be a great addition to our lineup as the 3rd big man behind Timmeh and Tiago... I must admit that he would not be a great option for the future because he'll be 32 this year, but since we have a great chance at getting Timmeh's 5th ring, then I think he'll be useful for us during the regular season... and possibly the playoffs.
Well, I'm really just impressed with this guy so I beg your pardon if you find this post annoying.
Hereunder is the link to his stats in the leagues he's been to in recent years.
http://www.asia-basket.com/player.asp?Cntry=PHI&PlayerID=38203
Hereunder is also an excerpt I got from wikipedia.
Douthit played for the Albuquerque Thunderbirds in the NBA Development League, the official minor league organization of the National Basketball Association, during the 2005–06 season. Playing under coach Michael Cooper, he was part of the team's starting lineup along with Tony Bland, TJ Cummings, Andreas Glyniadakis, and Tierre Brown, who was the league's MVP during the 2003–04 season.
While playing for the Thunderbirds, currently known as the New Mexico Thunderbirds after it moved to Rio Rancho, New Mexico, Douthit averaged 16.3 points and 8.6 rebounds per contest.[14] Douthit also helped the team defeat the Fort Worth Flyers, 119-108, to win the 2005–06 NBA Development League Championship, scoring 11 points and collecting 15 rebounds during the championship game.
Hereunder is the summary of his college career.
Career Highlights: Finished career ranked second all-time in blocks at Providence with 295. Finished third in the Big East and seventh in the nation in blocked shots per game as a senior (3.2 bpg).
Senior (2003-04): Earned the team’s Marvin Barnes Defensive Player Award for second consecutive year. Tied a Jimmy V Classic record with six blocks against Illinois. Recorded the fifth highest single-season total for blocked shots at Providence with 92.
Junior (2002-03): Finished season ranked 11th in the nation in blocks per game (3.0 bpg). Tallied 97 blocks on the season, the school’s fourth highest single-season total ever. Earned the team’s Marvin Barnes Defensive Player Award. Tallied 10 points, eight rebounds and three steals against Richmond in the NIT Opening Round.
Sophomore (2001-02): Registered a career-high seven blocks to go along with 17 points and 10 rebounds against Sacred Heart. Scored five points and grabbed four rebounds against Georgetown in the Big East Tournament.
Freshman (2000-01): Scored a career-high 22 points and pulled down 11 rebounds while recording his first career double-double against Brown en route to Rookie of the Week honors.
Strengths: Long and athletic big man who can run the floor and block shots. Didn’t get many chances to show offensive skills in college.
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Im going to point out the obvious: lots and lots of players look incredible and unstopabble against minor competition, but when they are paired against players from more powerful leagues they look rubish. So the scouts need to see something truly special to think a guy can make it to the NBA and be productive.
I have seen the FIBA americas for example, a tournament with multiple NBA players and great quality of play….but where a guy like Cory Joseph looked like one of the best point guards in the tourney and where Joel Anthony looked beastly and would have double-doubles every night. You put those 2 guys in the NBA and they look 50 times worse.
I dont want to be an asshole, but the truth is that asian competition has such a low level of play (compared to the NBA) that a guy would have to utter dominate the competition to be noticed…like Hamed Haddadi, and he is a bench player, a 11-12th man on a mediocre grizzlies team.
First of all, I want to see someone like Douthit dominate at least european basketball before jumping out about how awesome he is.
my mom (who doesnt know a lick about basketball): "that guy is anything but World Peace"
Point well-taken. Just last year during the lockout, though, the Philippine team, featuring Douthit as the ONLY big man in the lineup, played against an NBA selection of Kobe Bryant, Kevin Durant, Chris Paul, Derrick Rose, Tyreke Evans, Derrick Fisher, James Harden, Derrick Williams and McGee in an exhibition game intended to prepare the Philippine team for the then upcoming FIBA Asia olympic qualifying torney. The NBA selection were playing more serious than what you would expect from a typical exhibition game and Douthit played solidly, especially defending the shaded area, against what could be considered as an All-Star cast. Although you might point out again that a bigman combination of McGee and Williams isn’t your typical NBA frontline, but that’s beside the point.
Hereunder are the scores.
NBA Selection (98) — Bryant 17, McGee 16, Durant 16,
Harden 15, Evans 9, Williams 8, Rose 6, Paul 6. Fosher 5.
Smart-Gilas (89) – Casio 16, Douthit 14, Lutz 12,
Hontiveros 11, Lassiter 9, Tiu 8, Aguilar 6, Ababou 4, Williams 4,
Alapag 3, Barroca 0, Taulava 0, Ballesteros 0.
I know I’m at the risk of being the subject of irony on my signature, but I’m willing to take this risk because I believe that with him in our lineup, we won’t be worrying too much when Timmeh takes the day off or when Blair and/or Bonner are playing exceptionally bad defense. And I know that our scouts think the way you described them above. I’m just taking the chance here that somehow someone would notice this guy… because indeed, he’s worth the try.
It's better to be silent and be thought of as a fool... than open your mouth and remove all doubts.
Exactly. It’s not just NBA scouts who have missed him, it’s European teams, too. While some great prospects slip through, between the NBA and Euroleagues most of the time the scouts are going to notice the best players. By age 32, and with time spent in the D-League, in all likelihood if he was worth taking a flyer on someone would have done it by now.
This is not to take away from the post, Reylan. If anything, I’d like to see more of these- I don’t get to watch much international ball, so anytime you see someone you think might be a good prospect I’d love to read a write-up on him. Especially one this detailed. Great post, even if I disagree with your conclusions.
Cinnamon and sugary as softly spoken lies, you never know just how you look through other peoples' eyes
by SpursfanSteve on Feb 9, 2012 6:02 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with you, I like posts like this, even if im the first one to try to destroy other’s people opinions :P
In all seriousness, as long as a post is well thought and writen, it is welcomed, even if some of us will disagree with the point of view
my mom (who doesnt know a lick about basketball): "that guy is anything but World Peace"
If I may add, the Spurs aren’t your typical NBA team in terms of scouting. They look for character and fundamentals more than potential if I’m not mistaken about it. And these are the traits that Douthit possesses, coupled by his 6-11 frame with a 7-4 wingspan.
It's better to be silent and be thought of as a fool... than open your mouth and remove all doubts.
No, he never played in the NBA. He played in the D-League, though and won the DLeague championship as one of the main cogs. He then abroad to play professional ball.
It's better to be silent and be thought of as a fool... than open your mouth and remove all doubts.
Hereunder is a link to a video showing just one of the many instances he plays pick-and-roll…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vR0s8lzKZM
Hereunder is another link to the game against NBA stars I was talking about… McGee got the better of him in two occasions early in the video, but I suggest you look beyond it and see the way he moves on offense, giving picks for teammates, positions himself on rebounds, and how he defends the shaded area, especially on the second half of that video. Sure he got a couple of mistakes… but those are mistakes that won’t happen if he’d be playing for Pop and the Spurs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU6_es5V9Is&feature=related
It's better to be silent and be thought of as a fool... than open your mouth and remove all doubts.
I seriously Douthit.
Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan
+1
I’m Filipino and have watched Douthit often play for the national team. He’s good but not NBA-good. Haddadi is better and look where he’s at.
I would like to get a little more inside, myself -- Pau Gasol
by silverandblack_davis on Feb 12, 2012 7:31 PM CST up reply actions
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