Tony Parker continues to destroy defenses, Spurs get a 100-90 win at Philadelphia
The Spurs managed to go 2 for 2 to start the Rodeo Road Trip with a win over a very good 76ers team. After a close first half, the Spurs pulled away by double digits in the third and resisted the home team's late surge to close the game. Tony Parker continued to remind everyone that he is one of the best guards in the league with 37 points and 8 assists. Tim Duncan and Gary Neal assisted TP in the winning effort by scoring 16 and 18 points respectively. Lou Williams led the Sixers with 22 off the bench. The Spurs improved their record to 18-9, climbing to the second spot in the Western Conference.
Before going any further, let's get this out of the way: Tony Parker is a fantastic, amazing basketball player. One of the best in the league. If you've ever spoken ill of him, repent now before it's too late. The Spurs have won their last 6 games and there is no way they could have gotten to this point without Parker going Nova against the Thunder and the Sixers. Now that that's out of the way, let's get to the quarter by quarter analysis.
First quarter
The Spurs rode on to Philadelphia for the second game of the RRT after a close win over the Memphis Grizzlies knowing that this game was going to be a battle. The Sixers are one of the best defensive teams of the league and have the kind of long, athletic players that always give the Spurs trouble. The first quarter gave us exactly what we though we were going to get, with both teams struggling to score in their half-court sets. The Spurs were daring the Sixers to beat them from mid and long range by sagging off shooters but without the quickness to recover and contest those shots. Andre Iguodala and Jrue Holiday took advantage of the Spurs lax D and scored 7 and 8 points respectively. The Spurs’ starting lineup minus Parker was having trouble getting in any kind of offensive rhythm. Duncan was being aggressive against the rookie Nikola Vucevic but could not finish on a couple of plays, going 2 of 7 from the floor. Thankfully, Gary Neal came to the rescue. The Nail went 3-3 from outside and finished the quarter with 12 points that allowed the good guys to hang on and finish the period up 2.
Second quarter
The Spurs managed to get their first big lead in the 2nd, as Neal played point guard with a frontcourt of Tiago Splitter and Matt Bonner. It seems like someone finally told our guards that Tiago can finish off the pick and roll, because they were looking for him when he rolled hard to the basket. Sparkles scored 6 points in little over 6 minutes of play in the quarter showing off his post moves in the process. With the Spurs up 8 and Splitter and Neal playing great ball, Pop decided to bring back Tony and Tim, which resulted on a 10-0 run by the Sixers. The Spurs defense managed to recover and after some ugly basketball, the half ended 48-45 Spurs. Both teams shot badly from the floor (Spurs .391 and Sixers .360), but the Sixers had the edge on three point shooting percentage, going 3-6 to the Spurs 3-9.
Third quarter
The Spurs extended their lead early in the 3rd and would never trail again. The Sixers' initially air-tight defense started to show some cracks early in the quarter especially in the heart of the paint, with only Vucevic and the undersized Brand to contest shots. Neal and Blair got some early baskets and the D managed to shut down the paint after a couple Iguodala layups. The Tiago Splitter-Matt Bonner frontcourt continued doing well, with each player scoring 3 points in the final minutes. But the difference-maker, as has been the case often in this season, was Tony Parker. La Croissant penetrated and drew fouls that enraged the Philadelphia crowd and frustrated the Sixers players. Parker finished with 11 third quarter points and helped open the gap that would end up getting the Spurs the victory.
Fourth quarter
In the 4th, the Spurs used the pick and roll effectively to get their max lead of 11. Parker was able to find Splitter rolling to the basket on two consecutive occasions for 4 of Tiago’s 6 points in the quarter. After a mini run by the Sixers while Parker rested, Gary Neal hit a three to stop the bleeding, and Pop sent Duncan and Parker back in with 5:40 to go and the lead back to 8. From then on the Spurs used the Tim and Tony two man game to milk the clock while still getting quality looks. The Sixers got as close as 5 but the Spurs managed to control the action and got away with their 5th road win.
It was a close game throughout, with both benches playing a big role, but in the end the team with the best player on the floor won. Tony is in a class of his own right now and he could not have picked a better game to emphasize it. "Just one of those games everything was working for me. My shot was feeling good and everything was going," Tony said. That’s as accurate a description as I'm able to find for it.
Random thoughts:
- Really, Richard Jefferson? I write 1,300 words basically asking people to go easy on you and this is how you repay me. Really? I say that your shooting makes you a valuable player for this team and you go 0-3 from 3. Not cool, RJ. Not cool at all. (But it's ok. I forgive you because you got that rebound in traffic.)
- I know I mention this in almost every recap I get, but there are few things that infuriate me more that watching DeJuan Blair fail to box out. He just watches the ball while his opponent gets position and then jumps expecting to get the rebound. The Sixers got 3 straight offensive boards in the 3rd because DeJuan never bothered to put a body on his man. He is officially the worst big in the Spurs’ rotation now that Bonner is hitting his shots.
- Speaking of Bonner, he only hit one 3 but he got 9 boards to go with some not-that-awful defense. Thaddeus Young burned him a couple of times, but I think this was a good game for Matty overall.
- Splitter scored 15 points in 17 minutes. He played less than Blair who went 3-7 for 6 points. I don’t understand Pop sometimes.
- Danny Green and Kawhi Leonard had abysmal shooting nights. Green went 0-5 and Leonard 1-4. They were still better than RJ.
- The ball movement seems to be much better when the subs are in, even with no real PG. With no star that needs constant feeding and with the space that the threat of Bonner behind the 3-point line creates, the offense flows seamlessly through every player on the floor.
- The Sixers are a great team. They are going to be a really tough out in the East but they are still a player (or a year) away from serious contention. Their young players are great but they still lack that top 10 player every contender needs. I could see them beating either the Bulls or the Heat but not both.
Three Stars
Tim Duncan: 16 points on 6-16 shooting, 11 rebounds and 2 blocks.
I could have gone with Tiago here, but Timmy played a pretty complete game and has been giving the team some vintage performances on the last few games. Tony is simply killing it right now, but the old man is being a great sidekick. He didn’t look quite as spry as he looked in the previous couple of games, but still managed to be the best big on the floor.
Gary Neal: 16 points on 6-9 shooting (3-4 from deep), 5 rebounds and 6 assists.
Gary is getting better at this point guard thing. He found Splitter on a couple of pick and rolls and was able to read the stingy Sixer defense on his drives to the basket. His great 3-point shooting, while expected, was a welcome sight considering pretty much everyone else was awful from outside.
Tony Parker. 37 points on 12-24 shooting, 11-11 from the free throw line and 8 assists.
Against the two toughest teams the Spurs have faced in their 6-game winning streak, Parker has scored 42 and 37 points with a combined 17 assists. Not much else to say.
Up next, the Nets on Saturday. Will it be the end of LWM? Tune in to find out!
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thank you. parker is a beast.
by RJSpurs20 on Feb 9, 2012 12:07 AM CST via Android app reply actions
Hey, RJSpurs20. Nice to have you with us. I agree that Parker’s been more of a beast than DeJuan has been lately. Two great games in a row from him.
Also, if you wouldn’t mind saving the “first” thing for the Game Threads, I’d really appreciate it.
Thanks a ton.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
Really Richard Jefferson? I write 1,300 words basically asking people to go easy on you and this is how you repay me. Really? I say that your shooting makes you a valuable player for this team and you go 0-3 from 3. Not cool, RJ. Not cool
But he did have 6 rebounds. Hahah. Perhaps, Manu coming back will help cure some of the Spurs ills…
Speaking of Bonner, he only hit one 3 but he got 9 boards to go with some not-that-awful defense. Thadeus Young burned him a couple of times, but I think this was a good game for Matty overall.
His team/system defense has been solid. he boarded a few strong rebounds. He’s making blair look like he’ll never earn minutes after the start of the second half.
Gary is getting better at this point guard thing. He found Splitter on a couple of pick and rolls and was able to read the stingy Sixer defense on his drives to the basket. His great 3-point shooting, while expected, was a welcome sight considering pretty much everyone else was awful from outside.
He’s going to need to be able to do that, to keep getting minutes once Manu is back (and playing regular minutes). That and, his D is just horrid so he needs to have outstanding offense to offset his D. But he was a +13, so this time it was much better than his D. He got burned by Lou Williams in the 4th a lot though.
Winter is coming
Solid post. Rec’d
I know I note this in almost every recap I get, but there are few things that infuriate me more that watching DeJuan Blair not box out. He just watches the ball while his opponent gets position and then jumps expecting to get the rebound. The Sixers got 3 straight offensive boards in the 3rd because DeJuan doesn’t bother to put a body on his man. He is officially the worst big in the Spurs’ rotation now that Bonner is hitting his shots.
He tries to out-athleticize players. I don’t get why he still hasn’t learned that he can’t do this successfully. This is not college. This is also why he doesn’t play much in the 2nd half after starting the 3rd quarter. Even prior to Bonner’s finding of his shot, he’s still been the better big.
The two worst defenders on the Spurs team are Blair and Neal. The biggest difference, is Blair has a body and decent footwork to be good on defense. Neal, is well, Neal. But in his defense (slightly), he didn’t start the season with camp…. (But yeah, Neal is pretty bad)
Winter is coming
rebounds are equivalent to scoring. Blair does not understand this. Yes, you want your team to get offensive rebounds and to score. However, when it comes to defensive rebounds and defense, you want your OPPOSITION to not rebound and not score. This is why he doesn’t box out, he still thinks he can get the defensive rebound instead of box out and GET a defensive rebound. You don’t get defensive rebounds, you prevent the other team from getting offensive rebounds. Same with scoring. This is growing tiresome.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Feb 9, 2012 12:45 AM CST up reply actions
It should be obvious by watching Bonner, who’s getting good minutes that this is the case. I do not see the spurs retaining Blair in free agency. Hopefully they can flip him in a trade for a decent draft pick.
48minutesofhell talked about it today in their postgame show. Some interesting thoughts.
Winter is coming
Blair is getting harder and harder to watch. Spurs have to trade him IMO more than they have to trade RJ. If the trade deadline comes and goes and Blair is still a Spur, that is going to really suck.
by spurlover on Feb 9, 2012 1:38 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I would be willing to trade a good young piece in some kind of package just to get rid of Blair. Get his no defense playing no blocking out butt out of San Antonio!
by spurlover on Feb 9, 2012 1:50 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Tiago Splitter scored 15 points in 17 minutes. He played less than Blair who went 3-7 for 6 points. I don’t understand Pop.
This is the big question. A lot of it comes to Pop avoiding playing Duncan and Splitter together.
Blair only plays with Duncan.
Duncan fits with Splitter, but most of the time, it’s Duncan/Bonner or Splitter/Bonner. Honestly, Bonner as the second big hasn’t given up much in this last winning streak. It seems to compliment the ball movement, as you mentioned.
Winter is coming
But for Tiago to play the same minutes as Blair is a travesty.
I would like to get a little more inside, myself -- Pau Gasol
by silverandblack_davis on Feb 9, 2012 12:51 AM CST up reply actions
I agree. Duncan needs to play less minutes for Spliter to get more time, it seems. Blair just is not versatile enough to allow them to go with other units to ensure it happening. It’s sad.
I think eventually, there’ll be more Duncan/Splitter, once Manu is back. Currently, it still can be a tad stuffy. That and, Spurs 2nd unit go to guy is Splitter, so Pop needs to make sure he stays out of foul trouble and what not.
Winter is coming
Blair should only be playing in the fourth quarter, cleanup minutes in a blowout.
by spurlover on Feb 9, 2012 1:42 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Violet Palmer was a ref for the game.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violet_Palmer
From the biography section:
On February 8th, 2012, Palmer beat the Philadelphia 76ers 100-90.
Keep thinking that the Spurs defense didn’t make you shoot long 2’s, and our offense is incredibly underrated REST OF THE LEAGUE, that’s just how we like it.
Obviously scouted from libertyballers although there were some fundamental minded basketball minds that gave us credit.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
Hah! Wayne and I were just talking about Palmer. Too funny.
I would like to get a little more inside, myself -- Pau Gasol
by silverandblack_davis on Feb 9, 2012 12:55 AM CST up reply actions
Although I do love the outcome of this game. Palmer regardless of gender is the worst referee in our beloved NBA. I can think of multiple games that went lopsided once you as a team disagree with one call (even if the replay shows you were correct) and after that, the calls multiply exponentially against said team.
Instant hero. Just add water.
It does not pay to cross the Palmer.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
It doesn’t pay to cross any of them, although the goods ones have an ability to forget all that had happened before and just ref the next play without bias…..this in my opinion is not Ms. Palmer’s strong suit. Just my two scents.
Instant hero. Just add water.
That was a very nice way of putting that.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
I CAN beat that, but it would be a sad decent if I did.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
Although clipprs have one less loss, Spurs (who have 3 more wins) are #2 in the standings now that Denver has dropped a few.
http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html
Winter is coming
Good stuff, Edg. You totally jinxed RJ ;)
Also, someone from the Liberty Ballers blog said this:
Honestly, I think we may have just played the best team in the West.
I feel funny.
I would like to get a little more inside, myself -- Pau Gasol
by silverandblack_davis on Feb 9, 2012 1:06 AM CST reply actions
by the way, how’d your exam go? Forgot to ask… You have another one this saturday right?
shit happens.
It was okay, I think I did turrible in the second subject :P Hopefully I’ll still pass, if barely. Yes, there is another one, aside from just having my midterms yesterday. I’m sick and tired of studying :)
I would like to get a little more inside, myself -- Pau Gasol
by silverandblack_davis on Feb 9, 2012 3:23 AM CST up reply actions
Man, did you read all the praise Doug Collins was heaping on us?
(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW
by quincyscott on Feb 9, 2012 10:43 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Good game again. I’m getting used to it. Our defense looks solid. Hopefully, with Manu back we will play some more potent offense. Right now it looks pretty much like vintage Spurs, grinding ugly wins with a lot of Tim&Tony playing together. Pop must be smiling inside his mean facade. The refs helped us tonight for a change.
Both teams played hard
About damn time we get some road cooking in our favor!
I would like to get a little more inside, myself -- Pau Gasol
by silverandblack_davis on Feb 9, 2012 3:24 AM CST up reply actions
The Philly fans in LB also realize Violet Palmer is bad in every way, so they didn’t blame the refs too much. Smart fans, those 76ers.
I would like to get a little more inside, myself -- Pau Gasol
by silverandblack_davis on Feb 9, 2012 3:24 AM CST up reply actions
Please don’t kill me. But isn’t that the time to exercise the “TP Card”?
Maybe not right now, but if Howard doesn’t end up in the Nets come deadline, if TP keeps playing this well for another month, can’t we go after D-Will? is that so far-fetched?
I mean, off-course he will have to at least sign an extension & show willingness to play here. But if i’m the Nets, I will go for it. TP has a great contract, he is tied-up for another 3 years, and i think we are now learning he can be the focal point of your offense.
D-Will will do good in this system. He is big, he is also a good PnR guy and he can shoot it from 3.
Did you hear what Malik Rose said in the broadcast? Malik and Timmy had dinner the previous night and Duncan said Splitter is the unsung hero of this good run. The dude is just a beast and has given the Spurs another inside presence. That’s a huge compliment coming from the GPFOAT.
Now, Pop, play him more.
I would like to get a little more inside, myself -- Pau Gasol
by silverandblack_davis on Feb 9, 2012 4:34 AM CST up reply actions
Nice inside scoop. Good ole Malik.
(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW
by quincyscott on Feb 9, 2012 6:55 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Why would he? is SA such a bad place to be at? Isn’t that team competitive enough? If the Nets says yes, and he refuses then he is an idiot.
Big markets are all the rage right now. Williams wants to be on a team with Howard and that team will probably be Dallas. Also, he probably is an idiot.
by Big50 on Feb 9, 2012 9:14 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I know it’s a business and all, but I’m just not sure the FO operates that way, reward loyalty and good play by trading you to another team for some young stud.
I would like to get a little more inside, myself -- Pau Gasol
by silverandblack_davis on Feb 9, 2012 4:36 AM CST up reply actions
I would not trade Tony for DWill… DWill is a headcase. If he has a problem dealing with his previous coach in Utah, what makes you think he would go along well with Pop? DWill may be younger, but Tony is a better player overall in my opinion… but then again, that’s just me saying.
It's better to be silent and be thought of as a fool... than open your mouth and remove all doubts.
No thank you. I say we stick with our thrice-beringed champion all-star point guard instead of booting him on whim because we saw something shiny.
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest." --Willy Wonka
by SleepCrack on Feb 9, 2012 9:02 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Not to mention that the something shiny is rumored to have had quite a bit to do with Sloan calling it quits.
Why would PATFO go out of their way to sign up for that kind of risk when they already have a durable poing guard who has shown time and again that he’ll stay in San Antonio even when he has a chance to test the waters?
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
The only thing D-Will has over Tony is size.
The longest, brightest day is followed by the darkest night.
So he is J-Kidd 2.0?
Parker is not going anywhere. He will retire a Spur. Three years later, they will retire his jersy.
(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW
by quincyscott on Feb 9, 2012 12:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
didn’t see anyone mention it in the game threads, but someone wasn’t happy with one aspect of the game…
Brooke Mullens @ONLYBROOKE
THIS IS RIDICULOUS !!!!!!!! There is NO REASON James shouldnt be playingthis space left intentionally blank.
by sleep research facility on Feb 9, 2012 3:30 AM CST reply actions
Dear Brooke Mullens,
The team is winning. I know it’s hard, but please try to temper your pessimism with the knowledge that there really might be a reason that James isn’t playing after all.
Yours Truly,
JRW
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
Aaaaannnd watch the DNPs pile up. You’re not helping, Ms. Mullens.
I would like to get a little more inside, myself -- Pau Gasol
by silverandblack_davis on Feb 9, 2012 4:35 AM CST up reply actions
hmmm seems part of my post got eaten? as she also said this:
Brooke Mullens @ONLYBROOKE
@A_V_11 THE COACH HAS 2 BUMS PLAYING IN FRONT OF HIM…. ITS RIDICULOUS !!!!!!!!!!
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by sleep research facility on Feb 9, 2012 4:37 AM CST up reply actions
Is that seriously her?
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
poor Anderson
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on Feb 9, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
“Hey, honey. Um, can I see your phone for a second? … I just want to see — oh, no! Clumsy me! Well, we can get you another one — next month — I promise.”
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
When did Twitter become the medium through which to have (what should be) private conversations? Ugh.
...as we find to our astonishment that we can still function, and even thrive within the chase. - Alex Dewey
It’s not just for private conversations either. It’s now ALSO for conversations that would never be allowed to happen in the first place (you think Pop’s gonna sit down with her and hash this out?) and making THOSE public. And one sided. And career threatening. And ridiculous.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
i think it’s gotta be them. from her twitter it looks like she’s good friends with gary neal’s partner, so i don’t think it would be the nailgun, which really only leaves green and leonard.
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by sleep research facility on Feb 9, 2012 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
He’s the starter and longest-tenured?
I would like to get a little more inside, myself -- Pau Gasol
by silverandblack_davis on Feb 9, 2012 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
There is at least one reason – these tweets. I wish somebody explained to her, how much she is hurting James’s career.
Both teams played hard
Hey Edg…this is a really good format for the recap. Right now, Tony has got a rhythm going that is unprecedented. I mean like… I have never seen before type of unprecedented.
Isn’t that what unprecedented means?
=]
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
Admittly,I got a little excited about his greatness.:)
by indiancharlie on Feb 10, 2012 8:07 AM CST up reply actions
I like this format, too. I’m probably going to use it on most recaps from now on.
"Manu Ginobili is the ultimate human cheat code, the password to the rim."
-Alex Dewey
Sounds good. How about also adding a link out to our fellow SBNation blog to make it easy for £ers to hop over to check out the other side’s coverage?
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
Sure. I was going to include a link to the boxscore and highlights on NBA.com, but I forgot. I’ll do that next time.
"Manu Ginobili is the ultimate human cheat code, the password to the rim."
-Alex Dewey
You can still do all three edits for the bunches of people coming along later today who haven’t read this yet.
=]
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
that is unprecedented. I mean like… I have never seen before type of unprecedented.
well said! this sounds like rather unprecedented type of unprecedented.
Both teams played hard
Hear that silence? Suddenly all Bonner hatred has shriveled up and died. What the heck has happened to Matty? Nine rebounds? Closing out hard on potential game-winning shots? Taking no threes but still being a contributing presence? I am utterly flummoxed.
(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW
by quincyscott on Feb 9, 2012 6:52 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I think the reason there are so many Bonner haters is because of his lack of man defense. It’s not his fault he is not athletically gifted. It’s not a lack of effort because when he is on the floor he plays his heart out. His man defense is horrid, his team defense not so bad.
by spurlover on Feb 9, 2012 8:42 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Don’t worry…they have all switched to Blair now.
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on Feb 9, 2012 9:19 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
The refusal to box out is utterly maddening. At least Bonner tries to play the right way, even if he’s not as capable as others.
The longest, brightest day is followed by the darkest night.
I don’t know that it’s refusal as much as it is that the bouncy ball just entrances him and he can’t think of anything else.
(Was that too harsh?)
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
I was dumbfounded by him last night. He didn’t score much but still had a good game with strong rebounding and good defense. I was trying to figure out how Pop hadn’t gotten this kind of play out of him.
The Garrett Guillotine demands more blood!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT
If you're going to eat poison, you might as well lick the plate.
He’s been trying really hard this season. I think he started off out of shape, but now has turned the corner. This is a good story to keep watching. He’ll never be great, but if he can continue to play good team D, as long as they can protect him on man defense, they should be fine.
Winter is coming
Nice work, as usual, Edg5. I’m a little surprised the Spurs handled this game as well as they did. I’m with you on Splitter and Blair. it seems to me that Pop may be doing the same thing he did last year, which is use Blair as a starter until after the AS break. At that point start using our best defensive lineup. Or maybe we’re winning so he doesn’t want to change things up. Who knows?
I think last night was Neal best game as a Spur
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
I even saw him make a play on defense.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
The stats seem to back you up, what with the career high in assists and all.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
Best guess on which guard will lose the most minutes when Manu and TJ return? Green can’t hit a shot as of late, but his defense is always good. Neal’s been on a hot streak but can’t play defense to save his life. I’m assuming Kawhi will go back to the bench as a backup to RJ. Does Anderson still exist?
by 4TimeChamps...and counting? on Feb 9, 2012 9:38 AM CST reply actions
Does Anderson still exist?
Ask Ms Mullens
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on Feb 9, 2012 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
Ms Mullens only sees
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and all the rest are just bums.The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
This could be the start of a grand new tradition… we should have a fictional dialogue between Ms. Mullens and Caphill
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on Feb 9, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
The dialogue would begin and end with me telling her to STFU. Would I like to see Anderson play more? Yes. However, I think James has done a really good job of playing hard when given the opportunity and not sulking because he’s disappointed with his playing time or contract situation. His SO could take a few pointers. I think Anderson’s talent will eventually shine through, but her behavior is detrimental to HIS career.
...as we find to our astonishment that we can still function, and even thrive within the chase. - Alex Dewey
“Girl, I KNOW you dint just tell ME to STFU. I’ve EARNED the right to say whatever I want to when my man’s bein’ abused. YES, I said abused. You got cotton candy stuck in your ears?
Jamie’s been working HARD to get better and ain’t nobody been payin’ any attention. I’ll be *&%$ if I just sit still when he’s dissed that dat!"
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
You’re under the impression that she would be allowed a rebuttal.
...as we find to our astonishment that we can still function, and even thrive within the chase. - Alex Dewey
“And now you’re talking about me in the third person? Only I am allowed to have a conversation about myself with someone and do dat! Woman, I’m gonna mess you up good. And don’t you think that your silly little Nerf gun thingy is gonna protect you neither. Huh uh! Nosiree. I got a black belt in kung judo and I’m classically trained in jujits fu. You don’ wanna mess with ME!
I’ll tell ya THAT right now.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
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Um, no. See the reference to “fictional dialogue” above.
...as we find to our astonishment that we can still function, and even thrive within the chase. - Alex Dewey
This. He’s always up and smiling and cheer leading after good plays by his teammates. Yes, it’s frustrating that he’s getting Tiagoed by Pop for whatever reason, but it would be truly tragic if his girlfriend was either the cause or am aggravating factor. She’s certainly one or the other, and either one is bad. Not to mention embarrassing.
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest." --Willy Wonka
by SleepCrack on Feb 9, 2012 12:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don’t know. With Tiago, Pop had a reasonable excuse. With James, there is much less of one.
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With Tiago, Pop had a reasonable excuse.
I dont agree. By the end of the season Tiago was clearly a better option than Blair, and he still went with the Blair-Bonner off the bench. Also Tiago was available for 76 of 82 games. Pop doesnt like to play Splitter much, I dont know why.
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
I think Tiago was better than Blair by the end of the season, but Tiago didn’ have training camp. He didn’t start the season. He was injured again near the rodeo trip. Those two things really hurt him.
As for this season, Pop doesn’t like to play Duncan and Tiago together so that’ll always limit his minutes.
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Anderson cannot be pleased with these tweets. Few things make a pro athlete look more pathetic than a loved one publicly ranting about his teammates or coaches. Just ask Tom Brady.
(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW
by quincyscott on Feb 9, 2012 12:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, Doug knows pain.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
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I was just noticing that with a lot of the focus regarding the Knicks being on Jeremy Lin, that Steve Novak has scored 19 points in each of the past two games.
Not that I think the guys before him are bums, but I’d not mind seeing Anderson given another chance as the starting SG while the Spurs wait to see if Manu reclaims it. In some recent games, it seems the Spurs have been winning despite the starting lineup rather than because of it. Other than Tim and Tony, the other 3 starters scored a combined 7 points. I’d expect the opposition feels they don’t need to worry all that much about the Spurs’ starters at SG and PF, which likely lets them play tighter defense on RJ. Anderson hasn’t been receiving a lot of time, but lately the team seems to play well when he’s in the game which is reflected by his +/- stat. His shooting continues to be a bit off, but the best way to fix that is the opportunity to shoot more. It wouldn’t exactly be a big shakeup that would ruin the team chemistry to put Anderson into the starting lineup and see what would happen. Green got last night’s start for his first of the season. Neal has started 5 times, Manu 5 and Kawhi 15. If the Spurs have given any thought to including Anderson in a trade, it might be good to show him off a bit.
I think I’d consider shaking up the starting lineup a bit more by also starting Bonner. It’s not like Bonner would cause a big dropoff on defense for the starting lineup from Blair, but I think he would improve the offense. It has become nearly entirely reliant upon Tony. Tim contributes but gets more attention from the defense with Blair in. I wouldn’t necessarily be giving Anderson a great number of minutes after the first rotation (bringing in Manu) unless he earns them, and would think that Green and Neal might get nearly as minutes as they have been with the backup unit. Leonard might wind up being mainly situational to try to shut down certain opponents. Blair should be more of a situation player, but he’s been starting regardless of who the opponent starts. In my rotations he likely would lose some minutes to Leonard. Tiago would be the first big off the bench and be getting more minutes.
It might be really tough to work out minutes once TJ returns. I’d think maybe the Spurs are already looking for opportunities to trade Blair and Anderson to pick up a different big and relieve some of the overcrowding at the wings.
The problem with Bonner starting is you get Splitter/Blair off the bench. Blair lacks the versatility to play in any units other than the ones with Duncan. The spacing and defense goes to poo when he plays with Splitter. So far, that big man lineup has not worked.
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And I hate it, yes I do,
When the defense goes to poo.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
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And it’s yours alone! =]
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
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Is there anyway you guys think that Manu’s comeback would destroy this winning streak? Just asking.
Popovich is the greatest conspirator!
Not if it’s handled right. If Pop brings him off the bench for short spurts the first couple of games until he gets in game shape I don’t see why it would affect the team negatively. It’s not like he is going to take minutes away from players that are contributing much. The wings have been pretty bad recently. The bigs and Tony are doing most of the work.
"Manu Ginobili is the ultimate human cheat code, the password to the rim."
-Alex Dewey
I actually see Manu returning to his 6th man role for the rest of the season, especially as we don’t currently have a backup PG. Manu and Neal/Green/whoever can share the ballhandling duties for the 2nd unit. Plus, Manu’s style of play is perfect for the young wings and Tiago.
...as we find to our astonishment that we can still function, and even thrive within the chase. - Alex Dewey
This makes the most sense until TJ comes back. That and, Pop can now run with lots of options since he now can rest Parker a bit more.
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Exactly. Brining Manu off the bench until TJ gets back seems like the best option for the team.
The longest, brightest day is followed by the darkest night.
whats going to happen when TJ gets back? who’s going to be out of the rotation?
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
I don’t think anyone. The one who’s minutes will suffer most is Parker who is playing double, sometimes triple duty at the moment.
Green will likely see the next biggest reduction. Although he can compliment a lot of the units, so he might not.
Neal will see a reduction in minutes as he’ll avoid PG duties. And now that the offense will gain a little, if he’s not working, he’ll see less time.
I can’t say Anderson is going to see minutes anymore if his GF doesn’t shut her yap, which she isn’t doing. I think she’s almost officially closed his case for minutes.
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RJ will likely not see his minutes fall, as he was playing big minutes previous. This should help keep his legs better for shooting.
Leonard might see an increase again as the offensive versatility of both TJ and Manu make it possible for him to hide his inconsistent shot a bit more.
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While I’d like Manu as a 6th man, I don’t think Pop will do it. The bench seems fine. The starting lineup has struggled a bit. RJ and Blair seem to play better with Manu. When Manu gets back to form, I think Pop is probably going to go back to playing Manu the first 5 or 6 minutes of the first quarter, then sitting him only to bring him back in the 2nd with the bench players.
"Manu Ginobili is the ultimate human cheat code, the password to the rim."
-Alex Dewey
The bench has been led a lot of times by Parker coming back in. I guess if Pop does what he did with Manu when Georgie was a Spur, that could work. But then Manu played career minutes last year due to that stretch.
I’d rather have Manu man the second unit and just toast that team’s bench. Based off what I’d expect, if Manu started, it would be Manu/RJ.
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Pop has done a terrific job in ‘taking down’ the value of starting. By essentially starting someone else every other game depending on current match-ups.
With might see a Parker-Gino-Leonard against OKC and a Parker-Neal-RJ against 76s.
Once Manu is back, Pop can go even crazier with that. And then once TJ is back, Poppy has got a lot of options.
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Hey, I’m all for anything that allows Pop the greatest latitude for craziness!
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
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