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Game recap: Spurs, Gary Neal pull off miraculous 103 - 100 win in OT at the Clippers.

The San Antonio Spurs escaped The Staples Center with their 10th win in a row after defeating the Clippers in overtime. In a weird game that went down to the wire, the Spurs managed to overcome their own bad execution down the stretch by taking advantage of the Clippers' mistakes. Tony Parker scored a game-high 30 points while Gary Neal hit some clutch shots for the Spurs. Blake Griffin had 22 points and 20 boards for the Clippers, who almost rode a fantastic 4th quarter by Chris Paul to get the win, only to see a costly mistake by their point guard open the door for the Spurs, who seized the opportunity to get their 22nd win of the season and solidify their status as the second seed in the Western Conference. Quarter by quarter analysis after the jump.

Star-divide

1st quarter

To say that the Spurs started slow would be an understatement. The good guys went 0-8 to start the game and found themselves down by as much as 9 early. Richard Jefferson in particular didn't seem able to find his 3-point stroke missing 2 open corner shots. With the Spurs missing from 3 the Clips were able to pack the paint to prevent Parker's dribble penetration while still being able to close out aggressively on Bonner and the other shooters. On defense, the bigs struggled early against Blake Griffin. DeJuan Blair and Tiago Splitter didn't necessarily play bad D, but they found themselves on the wrong end of a couple questionable calls, which got them in foul trouble and resulted in a bigger doses of Matt Bonner on Griffin that would be desirable. Blake took advantage of the match-up scoring 10 1st quarter points. The Clippers dominated the 1st going into the 2nd with a 11 point lead. A couple of baskets by DeJuan Blair and a bucket and a delicious dime by Manu were the only bright spots for the Spurs, who suffered a significant blow by losing Splitter for the rest of the game to a calf strain.

2nd quarter

It was clear that the Spurs were not going to keep struggling from the field the whole game and the Clippers were going to start missing some shots (regression to the mean and whatnot), but the drop-off was gradual. After a bad first quarter and beginning of the second in which he only attempted one filed goal, Tony Parker started playing like the dominating force he is. With the Clips playing solid pick and roll and help defense, Parker realized that if he was going to get himself going he was going to have to attack before the defense was set and he did just that. The aggressive defense from the Parker - Manu - Green - Leonard - Duncan lineup caused turnovers and bad long shots that provided the Wee Frenchman with opportunities to be the one man fast break we know he can be. For all the talk about how some players might relax with Manu back, we should worry more about them doing that with Parker. There's a lot of standing around and waiting for Tony to be the offense which could be problematic going forward with teams keying on him more, but it worked in this instance. Parker's counterpart, Chris Paul was silent for most of the 2nd quarter, struggling to shake the longer Green. The Spurs went into halftime up 2, 45-43.

3rd quarter

In my notes from the first half I'd written that in order fir the Spurs to win the game, Parker needed to keep scoring and the role players needed to hit their shots, and that's pretty much what happened for the first half of the quarter. Pop started Bonner instead of Blair and the additional space Bonner creates just by being on the court helped open things up for Parker who had 8 points and 3 assists in the quarter. Green, Jefferson, Bonner and Neal all hit 3 pointers and the Spurs found themselves up by double digits. In an effort to rest Parker, who had been chasing Foye through screens while Green was on Paul, the team started going to Duncan on the block; Timmy struggled getting good looks and the ball movement basically stopped. The Clippers upped their defensive intensity and with an unreal stretch of play by the Awful-Player-Who-Kills-The-Spurs dujour, Randy Foye, they found themselves back in the game and with all the momentum going for them. Luckily, Gary Neal, who up until that point was not having a great game and was showing some hesitation shooting, buried a 3 that deflated the Clippers' spirits and stopped their run. The Spurs' small lineup that featured Blair as the only big and RJ at the 4 spot played well enough to keep things close and the good guys went into the 4th up 3, 70-67. Manu Ginobili, who played a little over 5 minutes in the third, would go on to miss the rest of the game due to a strained left oblique muscle.

4th quarter

Chris Paul awoke from 3 quarters of mediocre basketball and basically put the team on his back. The All-NBA PG was looking for his shot on the 4th just like our friend ClipperSteve predicted and was basically the offense for the Clippers finishing the quarter with 17 points but no assists. Fortunately for the Spurs they have an All-Star point guard of their own. Tony Parker scored 12 points during the period to go with 2 assists and basically matched Paul's amazing production. The game was close for the entire 4th quarter and it became clear that the team that executed better down the stretch was going to come away with this one. Unfortunately the Spurs struggled to close out the game like they had earlier in the season and made some silly mistakes. Richard Jefferson capped off a pretty terrible game by fouling Butler on a made 3 pointer and everyone not named Parker struggled to get going offensively. With the Clippers up by 1 after a couple Paul free throws, Tim Duncan missed the go-ahead layup with 12,6 to go. The Spurs fouled and got it back down 3 and with the chance to tie it. The inbound went to Gary Neal who turned it over. The Clippers were up by 3 and had the ball after Foye called a timeout, only needing to inbound and hit a couple free throws to win. They inbounded to Paul, who is one of the better ball-handlers in the league aside from a smart player and clutch free throw shooter. I have to say, after praising Neal's timely 3s, I'm dissapointed at how he handled himself on that last play. That turnover basically cost the Spurs the game. So that's it, folks. The Spurs' winning streak was stopped at 9 in Los Ang-HOLY CRAP! CHRIS PAUL TURNED IT OVER AND GAVE IT TO GARY NEAL NEAR THE 3-POINT LINE! GARY TOOK THE 3 AND MADE IT! YEAH WE ARE GOING TO OVER TIME BABY! I NEVER DOUBTED YOU GARY, YOU CLUTCH M11R, YOU.

Over Time

Hmm mm, sorry about that. On with the recap. The OT started with both teams struggling to score on their first couple of possessions until Chris Paul hit a pair of free throws for the Clippers. Both teams upped their defensive intensity during the period even on tired legs, but the Spurs managed to out-hustle the Clips and Danny Green and especially Tim Duncan secured a few offensive boards that got the team extra possessions that would go on to be key. On defense the Spurs sent an extra defender to the strong side of the play to prevent Griffin from posting up and were fast to recover when the ball was swung around. Bonner hit a 3 off a Parker feed and Blake Griffin went 1-2 form the line to tie the game at 98. The Clippers defended well on the next possession but Gary Neal, in all of his clutch glory, hit a 3 with the clock winding down to give the Spurs a 3 point lead, 101-98 with 25.4 seconds to go. After the timeout, Chris Paul missed a layup that Richard Jefferson rebounded and passed to Parker, who was fouled. Tony hit both free throws and the Spurs went ahead by 5 with 14,9 seconds to go. Griffin got the lead back to 3 with a dunk and almost got fouled by Green in the process. The Spurs quickly inbounded the ball to Neal, who received Blake's 6th foul. With 8 seconds to go, Gary Neal unexpectedly bricked both free throws, giving the Clippers the chance to tie the game. Fortunately Chris Paul missed after a solid defensive effort by Kawhi Leonard, marking the end of one of the weirdest games I ever had the pleasure to watch. Both teams had double-digit leads, both teams made stupid mistakes in the most inopportune moments but only one had Tony Parker and Gary Neal and that team took the W.

Random thoughts:

I'm going to keep these short, since this recap is running pretty long already.

  • Kawhi Leonard played some PF tonight after Splitter's injury and he did it well.
    Kawhibunga could be a match-up nightmare in that spot if he develops a 3-point shot.
  • Matt Bonner continues a stretch of good play, scoring 13 on 3-6 from 3, while rebounding and defending really well by his standards.
  • If Splitter is going to be out for a while, the Spurs will have to sign someone to take his spot. How long he's out will determine if the Spurs go for a veteran free agent or sign a D-League guy on a couple 10-day contracts.
  • Manu also got injured, but the Spurs have proved that they are deep enough at the guard spots. It still sucks that Manu is injured yet again.
  • Blair and especially Jefferson didn't have the best of games but since we won I'll take it easy on them.
  • The guards have to do a better job rebounding the ball, especially on long misses that produce long rebounds. Other than Green (4), no guard or wing got more than 3 boards.
  • The Clippers are a good team, but without Foye going all Dragic/Beaubois on us tonight, the game would have been over before Paul could take over in the 4th. They have talented players but they don't scare me that much looking at a potential Western Conference semifinals. Still a lot of basketball to be played, though.

Three Stars

Honorary star: Chris Paul. His assist to Neal to tie the game was fantastic. Thanks Chris.

3 - Tim Duncan. 11 points, 17 rebounds, 3 assist and 2 blocked shots.

Timmy didn't shoot well from the field (5-14) or the free throw line (1-4) but contributed in other areas. His excellent work on the glass was the only reason the Spurs didn't lose the rebounding battle by more than 11.

2 - Gary Neal. 17 points on 14 shots (5-8 from 3), 3 rebound and 3 steals.

Neal's numbers are solid but what he contributed to the team tonight is hard for a box score to measure. With only Parker stepping up on offense and Manu sidelined, it was up to The Nail to be the secondary scorer and he delivered. His timely 3s killed the Clippers momentum on the third quarter and on the OT and without his game-tying 3 the Spurs wouldn't have gotten the W.

1 - Tony Parker. 30 points on 22 shots, 10 assists and only 2 turnovers.

Everything that can be said about Tony's play this season has already been said by Spurs fans. While there will still be people that will talk about how clutch Chris Paul was on the 4th, Tony Parker was clearly the best point guard in this game. If Manu is going to miss time again, we'll need Tony to continue to produce at this level and something tells me he will deliver.

Click here for the box score and highlights.

For a couple of articles on the Spurs' win click here and here.

For the opponent's point of view, visit Clips Nation.

Up next, the Utah Jazz on Monday. The Spurs travel to Salt Lake City to try to keep their streak alive on the 7th game of the Rodeo Road Trip.

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So glad they pulled out that win, I thought exactly the same thing at the end of the game.

by Spurlady on Feb 18, 2012 8:48 PM CST reply actions  

I have to say, after praising Neal’s timely 3s, I’m dissapointed at how he handled himslef on that last play. That turnover basically costed the Spurs the game. So that’s it, folks. The Spurs’ winning streak was stopped at 9 in Los Ang-HOLY CRAP! CHRIS PAUL TURNED IT OVER AND GAVE IT TO GARY NEAL NEAR THE 3-POINT LINE! GARY TOOK THE 3 AND MADE IT! YEAH WE ARE GOING TO OVER TIME BABY! I NEVER DOUBTED YOU GARY, YOU CLUTCH M11R, YOU.

Haha! I guess we all felt pretty much the same way. Game almost over, the announcers making the loss even thougher and MVP Chris Paul saves the day.

A casual diehard Spurs fan.

by Sh!fty on Feb 18, 2012 8:49 PM CST reply actions  

After the turonver by neal … i was thinking “i dont want to watch this anymore”
But then I think: “meh, lets see what happen, maybe a steal or a turnover”
And then: Holy crap, clutch neal!!!

by cuentaluis1 on Feb 18, 2012 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Never, ever, ever stop watching!

(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW

by quincyscott on Feb 18, 2012 9:06 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

THIS:)

When Tim Duncan isn’t on the court, the Spurs lose a bit of their intellect. When Ginobili goes missing, the Spurs lose their heart. - Tim V. 48MoH

by p2cat on Feb 18, 2012 9:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

and never ever call the game

"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili

by spursfan87 on Feb 18, 2012 9:38 PM CST up reply actions  

i prayed for a miracle. Someone was listening.

Do or do not! There is no try!

by Spurs Yoda on Feb 18, 2012 10:31 PM CST up reply actions  

were you tibowing?

Both teams played hard

by Kondor on Feb 18, 2012 11:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Midi-chlorians listened!

A casual diehard Spurs fan.

by Sh!fty on Feb 19, 2012 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

"these aren’t the droids you are looking for. "

Do or do not! There is no try!

by Spurs Yoda on Feb 19, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

After the turonver by neal …

Wasn’t a turnover. Neal did not much like the inbounds pass from Parker and knew a true “pass-first” point guard like Chris Paul would get him a much better look. So he gave the ball to the Clips…….. and it worked!

by doggydogworld on Feb 19, 2012 12:07 AM CST up reply actions  

So Neal wanted the higher percentage pass? he did get a better shot off that pass.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 19, 2012 12:10 AM CST up reply actions  

What a cold-blooded play by Nailgun! To pass a bad look expecting better look with a game on the line? Brilliant!

Both teams played hard

by Kondor on Feb 19, 2012 12:16 AM CST up reply actions  

That’s the forward thinking more players need.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 19, 2012 12:41 AM CST up reply actions  

They need a collaborative PG on the other team just as much.

A casual diehard Spurs fan.

by Sh!fty on Feb 20, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Just saw the highlights, excellent defense by Leonard on CP3 at the very end, this kid is going to be gooooood

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Feb 18, 2012 8:51 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed. Leonard made it about as difficult a shot as you can.

(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW

by quincyscott on Feb 18, 2012 9:07 PM CST up reply actions  

The foul they called on Leonard against CP3 was BS too.. He played solid D.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 18, 2012 9:22 PM CST up reply actions  

it was a BS call

Both teams played hard

by Kondor on Feb 18, 2012 10:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Unfortunately, one thing that will plague us for the rest of the year is the poor foul calls against Leonard and Green…..the kind of calls they wouldn’t make against veterans.

by cocanat on Feb 18, 2012 10:49 PM CST up reply actions  

yes, and they would call all those BS calls whenever they touch Griffin, LeBron, Wade, Paul, Kobe, Nash etc.etc.

Both teams played hard

by Kondor on Feb 18, 2012 11:13 PM CST up reply actions  

…and Splitter.

by 4Him on Feb 19, 2012 1:21 AM CST up reply actions  

I want to see again the block attempt of tim duncan against the dunk of blake griffin … im not sure it was a foul

by cuentaluis1 on Feb 18, 2012 8:55 PM CST reply actions  

It looked good from my angle,( the only other replay angle they showed). It looked like Duncan got ball and hands (of which are considered part of the ball in the NBA rulebook)

A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.

by alamobro on Feb 18, 2012 11:09 PM CST up reply actions  

It looked like Tim got all ball on the way up and then Blake got blocked by the back board. Then after he was losing the ball and flailing about, there was contact. Should have been a no call I think.

by Manuwar on Feb 18, 2012 11:47 PM CST up reply actions  

For the record, I know Gomes was the one that made the mistake, not Paul. But anytime I can blame Paul for something, I go for it.

"Manu Ginobili is the ultimate human cheat code, the password to the rim."
-Alex Dewey

by Edg5 on Feb 18, 2012 8:59 PM CST reply actions  

It seems to me to have been some sort of miscommunication. Gomes clearly though Paul was going to stop before half court and Paul was planning to get the pass in the back court. I don’t know who’s fault it was, but I’m not sure we can say it was for sure Gomes’ fault.

by Big50 on Feb 18, 2012 9:18 PM CST up reply actions  

It’s Gomes fault to start it off. Clipper fans (on their board) were calling it before the play happened. he cost them earlier in the year against Philly.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 18, 2012 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Just because the fans say it wasn’t doesn’t make it so.

by Big50 on Feb 18, 2012 9:22 PM CST up reply actions  

It isn’t, but Gomes threw the ball too far back. it was a turnover one way or another. Paul magnified it more by throwing it the way he did. he should have taken it with him for the backcourt, but Gomes put him in that position.

It’s like the PG who passes it to the big man who gets call for the charge (against a defender who is already standing there) because he puts him in that position.

Paul is not in that position if Gomes doesn’t throw such a bad inbounds pass.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 18, 2012 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks anyway, Clippers’ Steve Novak Gomes. Or Paul.

"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest." --Willy Wonka

by SleepCrack on Feb 18, 2012 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Special mention to Vinny del Negro, a true Spur at heart.

Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan

by TDzilla! on Feb 18, 2012 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Secretly wanting them to win. Or maybe not so secret…

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 18, 2012 10:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Either way works.

"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest." --Willy Wonka

by SleepCrack on Feb 18, 2012 10:13 PM CST up reply actions  

A lot of it goes to Gomes. The part on CP3, is that he should have then taken the backcourt.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 18, 2012 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Kawhi Leonard played some PF tonight after Splitter’s injury and he did it well.
Kawhibunga could be a match-up nightmare in that spot if he develops a 3-point shot.

It would be like coming the abilities of Blair + Bonner + defense. That and blair will see even less minutes if Leonard sees more time at the 4 and can hit the shot.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 18, 2012 9:19 PM CST reply actions  

FORGET ABOUT THE GAME!!

how long is manu/tiago out?! and is it bad that im more concerned about tiago?

by forrestgump52 on Feb 18, 2012 9:19 PM CST reply actions  

I think Tiago will be back sooner than Manu, from what I have read.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 18, 2012 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

That was my first reaction too, bad or not. At least Manu’s hand will have more time to heal? Stretching for a silver lining here. But Tiago has been key in Manu’s absence. I hope Bonner continues to play defense and hit the boards. He really has done well lately.

"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest." --Willy Wonka

by SleepCrack on Feb 18, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Even as good as Bonner is playing, it’s more that it’s just Duncan/Bonner. Now is Blair’s chance. he’s been pretty bad so far this season. I have a feeling we’ll see RJ/Leonard playing the 4 more likely than Blair playing well.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 18, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I like Kawhi at the 4. He’s been pretty versatile for us and now will have the opportunity to become even more so. But you’re right, it’s Blair’s time to step up. Remember when he used to rebound on both sides of the ball?

"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest." --Willy Wonka

by SleepCrack on Feb 18, 2012 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Does anyone have any idea how long Tiago’s going to be out? Any chance we pick up Fesenko or Powe or are we just going to see RJ/Leonard at the 4 with a little Thomas as well? A front-court of Jefferson and Bonner does not inspire confidence.

It sounds like Manu will be out a while, according to Buck Harvey. Okafer is supposed to miss up to 3 weeks with an apparently similar injury. Can anyone name a long-term player that’s missed more time than Manu over the course of a career with such a variety of injuries? Has he ever even stayed healthy over the course of an NBA season coming off a summer playing for Argentina?

by wildcat110 on Feb 18, 2012 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Can anyone name a long-term player that’s missed more time than Manu over the course of a career with such a variety of injuries?

Bogut?

"Manu Ginobili is the ultimate human cheat code, the password to the rim."
-Alex Dewey

by Edg5 on Feb 18, 2012 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Less variety, but a larger % of time.

by Alamo on Feb 18, 2012 11:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice work Edg5. I couldn’t believe we won this game. Life is going to be a bit more difficult for Duncan with Splitter out. Poor Manu can’t catch a break. Let’s hope neither of them are out for too long.

by Big50 on Feb 18, 2012 9:20 PM CST reply actions  

Neal missed all 6 of his 2 point shots, while he hit a couple of key shots it didn’t seem that good of a game for him. I think I’d have put Green in one of the star spots as it did seem he was often responsible for guarding Paul.

by Alamo on Feb 18, 2012 9:21 PM CST reply actions  

Neal was a mixed bag. his D was one of the reasons the Clipps hurt them. CP3 started waking up when Neal was on him. And then he was on Foye as well when Foye was turning it on.

The problem with Neal is the same thing with bonner (although he’s improved his D a lot this year). Is the offense worth more than the defense?

The good news is Leonard’s ability to maybe play some 4 might get him some more time in the games, so perhaps, leonard will make his extra minutes count from elsewhere.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 18, 2012 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought about it but the game-tying 3 was just too good. And he hit a couple of other important shots aside from that one. Green played a really solid game, though.

"Manu Ginobili is the ultimate human cheat code, the password to the rim."
-Alex Dewey

by Edg5 on Feb 18, 2012 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Green basically shut down Paul. Paul finally got the little rhythm that he needed when Pop took Green out for a little bit.. I agree, but maybe Duncan should be #2 and Neal #3?

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 18, 2012 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

nah, Neal 2.

You still have to hit those shots, and he did.

"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili

by spursfan87 on Feb 18, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, but he also bumbled the ball the play previous to that. I’m just trying to be fair to those parts. if we go with the shot, then he should be #1, perhaps..

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 18, 2012 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

You guys realize it’s a made up award, right? : ) You are both probably right, though. The 3 blinded me and I should have given Green more props for a great all-around game. His D was good, he rebounded well and he hit his shots.

"Manu Ginobili is the ultimate human cheat code, the password to the rim."
-Alex Dewey

by Edg5 on Feb 18, 2012 9:42 PM CST up reply actions  

No, they count. they are important!!! :)

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 18, 2012 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought Paul was just holding back until the 4th. He was looking to set up his teammates more. Green did an ok job, he was helped a lot by the help D on screens by our bigs. They were effective in closing out lanes. Green also made some costly mistakes on Paul, one play he turned his back and CP blew right by him. There were times he also kept on reaching in.

I would like to get a little more inside, myself -- Pau Gasol

by silverandblack_davis on Feb 18, 2012 10:41 PM CST up reply actions  

He had times when he got caught in the screens, but he kept constant pressure on Paul, making him more willing to give it up. Paul likes to lull the defender with his dribbling. Since Green keeps up the pressure, it helps. Green is far from perfect though. His biggest weakness so far is he reaches too much at times, giving up otential and ones, especially in key moments.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 18, 2012 11:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Toros and Dfenders is on futurecast. Coming up to the end of the first half. Malcolm Thomas for the Dfenders has 9 points on 4-4 shooting, 4 rebounds and 4 blocks.

by Alamo on Feb 18, 2012 9:32 PM CST reply actions  

Are all big guys playing for the Toros?

"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili

by spursfan87 on Feb 18, 2012 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Because If somebody is not playing might be because the Spurs called them

"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili

by spursfan87 on Feb 18, 2012 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Thomas would make the most sense to come back since he has some familiarity with the Spurs.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 18, 2012 9:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Thomas is probably the guy they will sign, but I want somebody that Pop would actually play.

"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili

by spursfan87 on Feb 18, 2012 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Wonder if Antonio McDyess is near a telephone.

by cocanat on Feb 18, 2012 10:56 PM CST up reply actions  

If we could just talk him out of retirement

"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili

by spursfan87 on Feb 18, 2012 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, that would be nice

Both teams played hard

by Kondor on Feb 18, 2012 11:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Indeed.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 18, 2012 11:36 PM CST up reply actions  

He’s going to be forced to play that extra guy or go super small. If pop is annoyed enough with the lack of defense, then I think he’ll try to go with playing the new guy.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 18, 2012 11:35 PM CST up reply actions  

It seems it should be spending time with the Toros should mean becoming familiar with the Spurs system. Thomas was actually with the Spurs, but I don’t think they ever had much of a chance to practice so he mainly just watched from the bench and now he is back with LA. In theory it would seem that the two Toros, Lyons and Dawson, should be more familiar with the Spurs’ system than Thomas. Each is averaging around 16 points and 10 rebounds. That being said, Thomas wound up with 17 points on 7-9 shooting with 10 rebounds and 5 blocks. He can really jump, his last block he was way up in the air for.

by Alamo on Feb 18, 2012 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

There are not a lot of practice time, but I’m sure he was talked to on the bench and spent time with the coaching staff during the day. But yes, the Toros should have more familiarity since they are in the Spurs system, playing.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 18, 2012 11:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Since Thomas was not with the Spurs on a 10 day contract but rather a non-guaranteed contract, is he eligible to be signed by the Spurs at this point or is there a 30 day period after he cleared waivers? It could be they’d need to use a 10 day contract on some other player first before they might be able to re-sign him.

by Alamo on Feb 19, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

At this point Manu’s become as injury prone as Shaq.

Fans can make you famous, a contract can make you rich, the press can make you a superstar, but only love can make you a player.
- Madonna

by WaveOcean on Feb 18, 2012 10:02 PM CST reply actions  

Stephen Curry’s ankle.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 18, 2012 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

You are such a douchebag.

"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." -Bertrand Russell

"Nothin' wrong with me that a little Grey Goose won't fix." -UNT head football coach Dan McCarney, after a stroke.

by TexaninNYC on Feb 18, 2012 10:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I was always good at irrigation.

Fans can make you famous, a contract can make you rich, the press can make you a superstar, but only love can make you a player.
- Madonna

by WaveOcean on Feb 19, 2012 12:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Don’t you dare call Manu “injury prone”. I got into an argument about this a couple weeks ago with someone here (Fred??). He is not injury prone, he just gets injured a lot. Two entirely different things, apparently.

by doggydogworld on Feb 18, 2012 11:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Sounds like the same thing to me.

"Rip it and grip it!" -Kevin Costner

by The Augustus on Feb 19, 2012 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, it takes an expert like Fred to understand the deep and profound difference between being injury-prone, like mere mortals, and getting a lot of random injures as Manu does.

Both teams played hard

by Kondor on Feb 19, 2012 12:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Not to defend Fred, mostly because he can defend himself, but Manu’s injuries are kind of weird. If he kept injuring his ankles I would say he’s injury prone. As it is, I would say he’s just really unlucky. Something similar happened with Kevin Martin. The guy just kept getting hurt but it was never the same injury. He played 80 games for the Rockets last season and he’s only missed a couple of games this season.
It really depends of your definition of injury prone. If it just refers to anyone who gets hurt a lot, then Manu’s injury prone: if it has to do with having some chronic injury (like Roy) or something structurally wrong with your physique (like Yao), then Manu is not injury prone.

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-Alex Dewey

by Edg5 on Feb 19, 2012 12:42 AM CST up reply actions  

I think we are too lost on the word. Whether it has drastically changed things or not, he’s been injured and missed games. Have those missed games/injuries stopped him and the Spurs?

Whether or not, it’s not within his control or others so it is what it is.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 19, 2012 12:44 AM CST up reply actions  

I actually think that Manu’s injures are more within his control. He is playing risky, and gets injured. His previous injury was a good example – he was trying to steal the ball from a guy and broke his hand. It was totally within his control to try or not to try stealing that ball.

Both teams played hard

by Kondor on Feb 19, 2012 12:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Sure. But then he wouldn’t be effective, because Manu’s game is built off this type of play. He wouldn’t be nearly as effective. I like that now with Green, we see more of what Manu brings, so maybe he doesn’t have to dig as deep, but I don’t think Manu can play another way. So yes, in theory it is within his control, I don’t think it’s possible.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 19, 2012 1:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes, I agree that this is his game. If he could tone it down a bit during not-so-important regular season games (e.g. against the Ws), he could stay on the court more. But I am not sure he can do it and still be Manu we all love to watch.

Both teams played hard

by Kondor on Feb 19, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I have no problem with Manu being called injury prone. But I can understand why someone would.

"Manu Ginobili is the ultimate human cheat code, the password to the rim."
-Alex Dewey

by Edg5 on Feb 19, 2012 1:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Manu has had four broken bones (foot, nose, elbow, hand) in the last four seasons. I don’t know if that makes him injury prone or not, but I think it means his bones aren’t as strong as most people’s.

by cocanat on Feb 19, 2012 1:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Hand and elbow were the weirdest injuries though… Just freak accidents

"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."

-Timothy Varner 48MoH

by Jordan Leithart on Feb 19, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I think is says more about Manu’s approach to the game more than anything.

A casual diehard Spurs fan.

by Sh!fty on Feb 20, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Fred who?

Fred Fuchs?

Fans can make you famous, a contract can make you rich, the press can make you a superstar, but only love can make you a player.
- Madonna

by WaveOcean on Feb 19, 2012 12:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Fuchs who?

Both teams played hard

by Kondor on Feb 19, 2012 12:57 AM CST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lSwwqDpoVc

Fans can make you famous, a contract can make you rich, the press can make you a superstar, but only love can make you a player.
- Madonna

by WaveOcean on Feb 19, 2012 12:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Can we all at least agree that Fred is argument-prone?

(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW

by quincyscott on Feb 19, 2012 1:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Ha!

"Manu Ginobili is the ultimate human cheat code, the password to the rim."
-Alex Dewey

by Edg5 on Feb 19, 2012 1:57 AM CST up reply actions  

And reveal that he is secretly Bonner’s biggest fan?

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 19, 2012 2:24 AM CST up reply actions  

No Tiago is big trouble

"he’s like Apollo… I wouldn’t want him hanging out with my sister or anything, but I can admire his brilliance from afar"
-or-
"his stock (Neal) rises and falls so quickly, I can't buy or sell fast enough!"

Jordan Leithart 2-18-2012 SAS@LAC
Spurs Yoda on Draft Night 2011

by Joe deLarios on Feb 18, 2012 10:12 PM CST reply actions  

This calls for MOAR MASSAGES for Sparkles!

~San Antonio Spurs~ ~San Diego State Aztecs~ currently rockin' my world!

by eastbaysd on Feb 19, 2012 1:40 AM CST up reply actions  

With Kawhi playing more 4 and Manu out again, will Pop play Anderson in non-garbage situations?

"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest." --Willy Wonka

by SleepCrack on Feb 18, 2012 10:14 PM CST reply actions  

Hope so

"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili

by spursfan87 on Feb 18, 2012 10:45 PM CST up reply actions  

This could be Kawhi’s chance to really establish himself, even though he’ll be playin the 4.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 18, 2012 11:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Gary Neal is the Clippers Nightmare
Is not the first time
Spurs vs Clippers 2010 NBA Preseason 10/12/2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHm1gKz4J6U

by cuentaluis1 on Feb 18, 2012 10:28 PM CST reply actions  

It seems that the spurs have to win 10 in a row … to get that article

by cuentaluis1 on Feb 19, 2012 1:19 AM CST up reply actions  

I hate people talkin about Gary Neal like “he had a jeremy lin moment, he learned that from kobe” … Jeremy lin is a terrible 3pt shooter and kobe 3pt% is terrible
http://youtu.be/V4wuQ_gp4yY

by cuentaluis1 on Feb 18, 2012 11:13 PM CST reply actions  

Neal before Zod!

Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan

by TDzilla! on Feb 18, 2012 11:37 PM CST up reply actions  

He did learn one thing from Kobe though. It says “no matter how horrible you play, if you take and make a winning shot, you’ll be praised”. Neal wants that last shot badly.

Both teams played hard

by Kondor on Feb 19, 2012 12:30 AM CST up reply actions  

He doesn’t hang his head, but moves on quickly to the next play. He doesn’t allow past mistakes to affect his psyche.

(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW

by quincyscott on Feb 19, 2012 1:48 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

And that’s the key to being a clutch shooter. No matter how much failure he might have, he still goes on. That and Pop will pull your arse if you don’t keep shooting (when that’s your job).

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 19, 2012 1:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, Neal is a freaking professional.

(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW

by quincyscott on Feb 19, 2012 1:59 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I expect a much different post season from The Neal. Yes, he made that big shot, but he was really bad (like many others last post season) other than that.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 19, 2012 2:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Kobe does the same thing. He can miss 10 times in a row, and he would still take a difficult jumper in last minute of a close game. Neal has the same shooter’s mentality. That’s why he is a clutch shooter.

Both teams played hard

by Kondor on Feb 19, 2012 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Good recap, Edg5! Are we still undefeated in OTs this season?

"I'm good at killing fat boys. I like killing fat boys." ~Arya Stark

by Ayatollah on Feb 19, 2012 12:47 AM CST reply actions  

I think, we are 3-1 in OTs

Both teams played hard

by Kondor on Feb 19, 2012 12:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I know you would like to forget that game in Dallas.

Fans can make you famous, a contract can make you rich, the press can make you a superstar, but only love can make you a player.
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by WaveOcean on Feb 19, 2012 1:01 AM CST up reply actions  

For all intents and purposes (other than standings, stats), Spurs won that game.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 19, 2012 1:10 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

and there were another angle where it showed the ball leaving Green’s hands on time, of course this new angle appear after the game.

"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili

by spursfan87 on Feb 19, 2012 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

And Dallas wouldn’t show that shot while the officials were deciding

"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."

-Timothy Varner 48MoH

by Jordan Leithart on Feb 19, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

we would be sitting on an 11-game win streak! Damn the refs!

Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan

by TDzilla! on Feb 20, 2012 6:31 AM CST up reply actions  

I just want to remember another clutch play by neal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPJJrSjOYzY
(maybe lucky, who cares)

by cuentaluis1 on Feb 19, 2012 12:55 AM CST reply actions  

Nobody is that lucky. How about that?

Both teams played hard

by Kondor on Feb 19, 2012 1:00 AM CST up reply actions  

this is the game where Dice made a tip to win the game

Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan

by TDzilla! on Feb 19, 2012 1:58 AM CST up reply actions  

the game prediction was spot on!

<++ If Dejuan Blair had ACLs, nobody would ever get a rebound ++>

by Galfusica on Feb 19, 2012 1:56 AM CST reply actions  

yeah

"I'm good at killing fat boys. I like killing fat boys." ~Arya Stark

by Ayatollah on Feb 19, 2012 2:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep, Joe got it down.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 19, 2012 2:25 AM CST up reply actions  

I have a question
The spurs have some International rights, but what are doing this guys?
Robertas Javtokas 2001 NBA Draft 56th pick
Sergei Karaulov 2004 NBA Draft 58th pick
James Gist 2008 NBA Draft 57th pick
Viktor Sanikidze 2004 NBA Draft 42nd pick

by cuentaluis1 on Feb 19, 2012 3:21 AM CST reply actions  

The front office is looking at Sanikidze right now. There’s a FanShot about it, i believe.
Gist never developed so I’d say he’s never going to be an NBA guy.
Jovtokas wanted too much money when he was seriously considering the NBA. He’ll never be a Spurs now.
Sergei is not that good, even when they drafted him.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Feb 19, 2012 3:48 AM CST up reply actions  

DrftExpress reported that Spurs are all over Lorbek
[Just a quick taste, last night 26 point, 4 boards in a 66-57 win vs. Caja Laboral]

I can’t describe how high i am on him, he is THAT good, he would pair with Splitter brilliantly.

I believe they will also look to bring Nando De Colo over, especially if one of our restricted wing youngsters won’t stick.

by ironm8 on Feb 19, 2012 4:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Gist briefly had a Spurs contract and was waived, so he is actually free agent that could sign with anyone. It seems possible that he may have been a training camp invitee if not for the lockout. He’s teammates with former Spur Curtis Jerrells over in Turkey.

by Alamo on Feb 19, 2012 7:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks
I like Erazem Lorbek and apparently he wants to join Spurs
He looks like mehmet okur

by cuentaluis1 on Feb 19, 2012 4:09 AM CST reply actions  

if it wasn’t for the lockout, he may be playing in the NBA now

Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan

by TDzilla! on Feb 19, 2012 5:11 AM CST up reply actions  

do we have his rights?

Both teams played hard

by Kondor on Feb 19, 2012 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

"Losing doesn't build character, losing just sucks. You know, sometimes though, you've got to lose in order to be able to enjoy winning" - Ben Wallace

by SpursfanSteve on Feb 19, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

got the rights from Indiana through that trade

Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan

by TDzilla! on Feb 20, 2012 6:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Eventually, we’ll just play with Tony and Bonner, and give everyone else a rest.

by LatinD on Feb 19, 2012 1:01 PM CST reply actions  

Until Tony wears out, and then it will just be Coach B against all comers.

(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW

by quincyscott on Feb 19, 2012 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

They are threatening Gomes’ family in Twitter? Damn.

by LatinD on Feb 19, 2012 1:13 PM CST reply actions  

its ridiculous

"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili

by spursfan87 on Feb 19, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Spurs should give Dice a call.

A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.

by alamobro on Feb 19, 2012 3:26 PM CST reply actions  

yeah my sentiments also. Maybe dyess can pull a brett farve and come back for half a season.
perhaps fo can chip in for a baby sitter for his newborn

by i luv this site on Feb 19, 2012 8:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Manu can babysit, he cannot stay on the court anyway. He would be the most expensive babysitter in the world.

Both teams played hard

by Kondor on Feb 19, 2012 9:16 PM CST up reply actions  

It would be terrific if he came back for half a season. Though I dont know if Pop would ask that of him. Hes probably happy in his retirement, but something tells me he would give it serious consideration. Its a perfect situation, the Spurs have a legit shot at the title, especially with Dice, and the shortened season means he wouldnt be away from his family for so long.

I know he probably thinks the Spurs have a shot at the title, with the improvement on the perimeter and the emergence of Splitter.

A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.

by alamobro on Feb 19, 2012 11:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Manu Ginobili and Tiago Splitter will both miss Monday’s Spurs-Jazz game in Utah.
Ginobili (strained left oblique) has returned to San Antonio and he will be examined by Spurs team physicians on Monday and will undergo an MRI.

Splitter (strained right calf) remains with the team on the trip.

by cuentaluis1 on Feb 19, 2012 5:31 PM CST reply actions  

hopefully since splitter didn’t get sent back to SA that his injury isn’t as bad; but have a feeling pop will still treat him conservatively.
smallballville here we come

by i luv this site on Feb 19, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I dont know who is Kenneth Faried
But he recently block westbrook .. probably one of the best blocks of the season
Something like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Raj6e2pSpEQ

by cuentaluis1 on Feb 19, 2012 8:15 PM CST reply actions  

KAWHI LEONARDS NEW NICKNAME!!!

Ok it’s perfect, he looks like it, plays like it, is built like it, and if you ever saw the show, he could be on it. I GIVE YOU KAWHI LEONARDS NEW NICK NAME!!!!!!!!

THE WIRE…

by Easyrhino on Feb 19, 2012 9:12 PM CST reply actions  

Try it out in a game thread and see if it sticks.

But I think it’s gonna be hard to beat Kawhi Five-O.

The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock

by J.R. Wilco on Feb 20, 2012 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

kobe 10 turnovers like a ljeremy lin

by cuentaluis1 on Feb 19, 2012 9:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Dammit Durant is clutch

by cuentaluis1 on Feb 19, 2012 9:33 PM CST reply actions  

Durant is scoring a new career high points in a game

by cuentaluis1 on Feb 19, 2012 9:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Who was the schmuck that said that Tiago was going to miss 3 weeks? He is not even back in SA, he remains with the team….that means that is not that bad and maybe he misses a game or two.

my mom (who doesnt know a lick about basketball): "that guy is anything but World Peace"

by Chilai on Feb 20, 2012 2:09 PM CST reply actions  

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