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A New Identity for the Spurs?

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Take the hard-working approach of Skynyrd on both sides of the floor, combine it with the way DeJuan Blair keeps pressure on his man to chase him as he begins every offensive possession sprinting down the court for the chance at an easy bucket, added to the way Mean Joe Green never takes a play off (or even PART of a play) - it seems to all be working toward creating a new identity for this squad, which is just what's needed.

It's not like the team's sense of self is in trouble without Manu. We see Parker and Duncan still playing nightly, and occasionally teaming up with sparkling efforts like they did did against Houston and Phoenix. But for anyone who has hasn't been able to watch every game, there's an ever-increasing amount of time being played without any member of the Big Three on the court.

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These are the stretches where the team used to go immediately go into a funk on both sides of the floor, resulting in a TQC, regardless of which quarter it happened to be. Skiers call such events yard sales: a wipeout where skis, poles, hats, masks and gear of all kinds fly off the person in question, and the end result looks like something in front of which you could set up a table, pull out your change and start taking best offers from passersby.

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But those moments are fewer and farther between, and what's often happening instead, is Pop deciding that things are going well enough that he's happy to hold off on returning Tim and Tony to the game, to see just how long the youngsters can stay up on those wobbly legs. The season began with a number of Green Circles, and Blue Squares but as the year goes on, there will be plenty of opportunities to see if they can handle the Double Black Diamonds. Letting Kawhi Five Oh and the Downhill Gang take on that kind of trail doesn't just save the knees of Old Man Timmeh, it also earns experience that can't be overestimated, and that will be tested all too soon with a Florida BABA on the map for this week, with roadies at Miami and Orlando.

Dress warm, boys. Those mountains can be cold and unforgiving.

RJ's woes

I'm seeing some comments lately about how Richard Jefferson has had two sub-par games in a row, and quite a few of you seem to be ready to get the Panic-mobile ready for an early January cruise. Look, I'm not to the level of SfS, where I can tell you what's going to happen weeks from now, but last night I saw all I needed to see from RJamnesty to let me know I don't want to hop on the doubter's vehicle just yet.

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RJ's 3 point shot has certainly been falling at rate that's both unprecedented and unsustainable, so the prudent fan would expect some sort of drop-off, and take courage from the fact that last night when chased off the 3 point line, RJ3.0 pulled up from 19 feet and comfortably, calmly and cooly drained a jumper without hesitation. Over the last two years, the seasoned Spur fan came to know from a glance at Jefferson's body language whether he was in Rage mode, or whether to expect another tepid game from Princess Peanut, but even more than the set of RJ's shoulders and his sharp shooting from the arc, I've come to depend on how he looks when he's taking something besides a three pointer with his feet set.

That shot he swished last night made me as happy as the fact that he still looks engaged on defense. So, c'mon £ers, let's give the guy a few games worth of support before we jump ship. I think he's earned that much from us through his good play so far this season.

Enjoy the rest of your holiday (for those who didn't have to work, like I did) and we'll see you in the comments.

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Was just thinking about this the other day—I’m relatively young, so for me the “old days” of Spurs basketball consist of a hale and hearty David Robinson teaming up with Sean Elliott and Avery Johnson. Tim meshed seamlessly into that group, and since ‘99, he’s been the constant in all these titles (and the same goes for Manu and Tony, marking from ‘02-’03, of course). So, in essence, this is the first time for me witnessing the metamorphosis of my favorite basketball squad from what their glory days to………whatever lies ahead. I’ll be honest, I used to look at the ever nearing end of the Tim Duncan era with a bit of dread, choosing to enjoy the dominance and not think about how quickly it could all be over. However, seeing younger guys like Leonard, Neal, Green, Blair, and Splitter come in and learn from the best in our Big 3 and our coach leaves me with much satisfaction about the direction the team is heading. No, we’ll never get back the days where the Twin Towers prowled the lane and Bowen hounded the best scorers into fits, but we WILL have a hardworking, humble core to build upon once our stars of the past decade plus set sail for the calm waters of retirement.

At the risk of sounding arrogant, it makes one proud to be a fan of this franchise. Enjoying the ride this season, no matter where it takes us.

"You may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas." -Davy Crockett
"Give me an army of West Point graduates, and I'll win a battle. Give me a handful of Texas Aggies, and I'll win a war." -Gen. George S. Patton

by Trey Felder on Jan 16, 2012 7:14 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

Apologies for the novelette of a post lol

"You may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas." -Davy Crockett
"Give me an army of West Point graduates, and I'll win a battle. Give me a handful of Texas Aggies, and I'll win a war." -Gen. George S. Patton

by Trey Felder on Jan 16, 2012 7:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I did not detect a hint of arrogance there, bro. Nice post, and I’m sure you speak for a lot of people who are enjoying watching the franchise become whatever it will become.

(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW

by quincyscott on Jan 16, 2012 7:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Especially this.

I love winning, but i also really enjoy the development of a team and how these new kids evolve into players within the spurs system. The contest is every bit as important to me as the eventual result.

"When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges."

by Bushka on Jan 16, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with the RJ assessment. I think his body language and confidence translates into more wins than his PPG average does. He’s a Spur this year, whereas in the last two years he’s just been a guy in a Spurs uniform who was sometimes helpful but never 100% engaged. That’s good enough for me. I was wrong to think we should use the amnesty on him.

"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest." --Willy Wonka

by SleepCrack on Jan 16, 2012 8:37 PM CST reply actions  

He was somewhat a Spur last year, but ten even the Spurs went away from keeping him involved last year.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Jan 17, 2012 12:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Agree with keeping the faith in RJ, for now, and I also noticed the exact same thing about him being comfortable taking those long jumpers.

I’m just a little worried that if he’s not getting a good number of shots consistently (make or miss, it doesn’t matter), he’ll eventually disengage (again). It happens even to the best of players. The coaching staff has to remind itself to keep RJ involved, as he’s been a big part of our success in this young season.

by silverandblack_davis on Jan 17, 2012 4:34 AM CST reply actions  

[RJ]’ll eventually disengage (again). It happens even to the best of players

Are you saying the even the great Bruce Bowen fought the tendency to check out because he wasn’t being engaged on offense? So that’s why he’d sometimes go weeks at a time between offensive explosions, and then settle back into his customary 6 points a night?

When you’re this scared while dribbling by yourself, you really shouldn’t be dribbling. - bj1der
Pounding the Rock

by J.R. Wilco on Jan 17, 2012 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Honestly, in about the last 2-3 years, he got attacked a lot by fans (since he started). Whether he checked out or not, his game, “didn’t provide enough” advantages to warrant starting… oh the good ole days..

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Jan 17, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m discussing the good years.

When you’re this scared while dribbling by yourself, you really shouldn’t be dribbling. - bj1der
Pounding the Rock

by J.R. Wilco on Jan 17, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Some of those years were pretty good years though, although more towards the tail of his prime…. But then you can never please fans…

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Jan 17, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

But … I’m a fan!

When you’re this scared while dribbling by yourself, you really shouldn’t be dribbling. - bj1der
Pounding the Rock

by J.R. Wilco on Jan 18, 2012 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

After watching Gentry and the Suns, sympathy arose for what was once a challenging team and thanks for our PATFO for the steps they have taken. The Suns payroll is 63mil with Nash @ 11.6 and the Spurs are 73mil with Tim @ 21mil. Both contracts expire this year and yet I feel like we are just beginning with the brighest of tomorrows.

by indiancharlie on Jan 17, 2012 9:16 AM CST reply actions  

It’s going to be tough once the big 3 (or at least 2 of those 3) are gone. It looks a lot nicer at the moment, but as bright as it is, well, yeah..

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Jan 17, 2012 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

What an excellent point you make about the payrolls. Which means that we should be giving credit to PATFO (as well as Peter Holt) for being willing and able to surround Duncan with the talent that would keep the team contending, for essentially the same $$ amount when you factor out the salary of each team’s superstar.

Assuming your #‘s are correct (and I haven’t double checked them):

Suns payroll minus Nash: $52M
Spurs payroll minus Duncan: $52M

When you’re this scared while dribbling by yourself, you really shouldn’t be dribbling. - bj1der
Pounding the Rock

by J.R. Wilco on Jan 17, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly and the numbers came from Shamsports.com.

by indiancharlie on Jan 17, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

so we can trade our whole team minus GOAT for their whole team minus Nash? let’s do it!

Both teams played hard

by Kondor on Jan 17, 2012 11:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Wouldn’t be allowed. Too many guys just signed their contracts.

More importantly, would you WANT Lopez over Blair?

When you’re this scared while dribbling by yourself, you really shouldn’t be dribbling. - bj1der
Pounding the Rock

by J.R. Wilco on Jan 18, 2012 12:03 AM CST up reply actions  

jk, I like our guys much better

Both teams played hard

by Kondor on Jan 19, 2012 9:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Good to know.

Also, love the avatar!

No one on the planet plays lockdown D like Matty B.. - Matthew Tynan
Pounding the Rock

by J.R. Wilco on Jan 20, 2012 6:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Once Manu and Duncan retire, our young ones will start to show their weakneses. I think they are a great bunch, but with parker at the helm and with the guys we have I dont see the spurs of the future being more than an 8th seed and 1st round exit until we got other gems in the draft or luck out with a high pick.

"Kevin Garnett once described defending Tim Duncan as "trying to guard a tree"

by Chilai on Jan 17, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Not that this has anything to do with your point. But I somehow doubt Manu will just walk away. It wouldn’t surprise me to see him go play in Argentina or Europe again. Of course, I’ve been wrong before.

by Big50 on Jan 17, 2012 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, I doubt Spurs are going to force Manu out, so I think he’d play out as a Spur, unless he leaves the states for living purposes.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Jan 17, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Manu has repeatedly said that he wants to retire playing at the highest level of competition, AKA the NBA. He’s also made remarks suggesting that after his contract is up, he will retire. But I guess you never know. If he stays in good shape he might keep playing.

"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell

by Edg5 on Jan 17, 2012 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

From a non-selfish standpoint, he should because he gets to spend time with his kids at a critical age. Obviously, that doesn’t benefit me as a Spurs fan.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Jan 17, 2012 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I hadn’t heard that. I’m just figuring on him wanting to help improve or keep up the high level of Argentine basketball.

by Big50 on Jan 18, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Manu is under for one more year and the way Tim is playing today,he will be playing someplace next year and for as long as he is a contributor. At the start of the season, our young’uns were better than Tim, Tony and the starters but not Manu. Regarding the future, the PATFO has eanred the benefit of any doubt.

by indiancharlie on Jan 17, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Where did all this reasonable rational come from? Didn’t somebody once say “This is PtR! Don’t bother us with facts!”?

Good stuff chief. I like it.

by Big50 on Jan 17, 2012 2:49 PM CST reply actions  

Facts just get in the way of our perceptions. Psssh..

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Jan 17, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

BAH! Rationality.

Will argue against trading #45 until I am blue in the face and your eyes and ears are bleeding.

by SpursfanSteve on Jan 17, 2012 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Bah! Memes.

When you’re this scared while dribbling by yourself, you really shouldn’t be dribbling. - bj1der
Pounding the Rock

by J.R. Wilco on Jan 18, 2012 2:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Does he look like he’s upset that Winter is Coming?

Not at all.

No one on the planet plays lockdown D like Matty B.. - Matthew Tynan
Pounding the Rock

by J.R. Wilco on Jan 18, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I think he looks happy about it.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Jan 18, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

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