Spurs roll 99-83 over Portland as roster continues evolution
Certain things in life are inexplicable, yet some people need explanation anyway in order to feel closure on a subject. On Friday night the Spurs defeated a hot Portland Trail Blazers team 99-83 at the AT&T Center, and they weren't supposed to.
At least that's what everybody was saying.
Logic and reason offer an easy explanation as to why the Blazers have been such nightmare for the Spurs in recent memory. You can point to their size, their athleticism, their youth - all things the Spurs have lacked during the longest title drought of Tim Duncan's career. Well, until this year.
San Antonio has always had a decided edge in one aspect of the game nearly every time it steps on the court: the Spurs are smarter than you. Since Gregg Popovich took over as head coach (which also conveniently occurred around the time Tim Duncan entered the league) there's been no team smarter. But plenty of those teams have been more athletic. The Spurs have become a victim of their own success, consistently entrenched toward the end of the draft, searching nooks and crannies for that diamond in the rough. Along the way they've passed up some big, athletic players that look good on television, opting instead for brains over brawn. And clearly it's worked.
But they had the luxury of picking and choosing the perfect fit. After all, they'd be able to attract some proven veteran to sign on and try to win a ring with Duncan - something they did with regularity. But then came the decline in athleticism from the big man. Little by little he became less able to do the things he wanted to do on the floor, and with that came the inevitable change in the Spurs' business structure.
When Duncan was in his prime you could get very good players at a bargain simply because they wanted a ring. But just as Timmy's production has diminished, so has the lure of playing in the Alamo City. Gone are the constant double teams that created countless wide-open shots for his teammates. Gone is the ability to go "four down" and just dump it down to Duncan when nothing else was going right (Well, that ability is still there ... it's just not quite the same). Every defense becomes more difficult to crack. We've now seen long, athletic centers in the league - guys he used to torture - give the best power forward the game has ever seen fits on the block. Suddenly, with the rest of the NBA getting younger and more athletic around the Spurs, it became more difficult to play the style of ball San Antonio liked to play.
It was no longer a guarantee the Spurs were a title contender, so naturally the luster of playing with Duncan began to wane. Veterans were signing for less money to play under the brighter lights of the bigger markets as San Antonio became more of an afterthought on the free agent market. When you're a title contender it's not always about the money. You can convince those who want to win to come play for you on the cheap. But if you are no longer viewed as an upper-echelon team it becomes harder to attract bigger names with less than lucrative contracts. Players wanted to get paid over playing with an aging Duncan, and the Spurs didn't have the money. This was a team that never touched the luxury tax threshold, and it never really needed to.
It's like any other business. If your company owns or is on top of the market in which it operates, you can have your pick of employees. Everyone will seek your available opportunities above all else because they know the stability is there. They know what they're getting and they know risk is minimal. But if you're a smaller company, the more you pay the more consideration you'll get from someone who might deem the difference in compensation worth it, obviously.
So as the Spurs became less attractive it became more difficult to attract those veterans they had been able to before, and on top of that there wasn't enough money to spend on free agents anyway. With other teams winning titles and the Spurs consistently being beaten by the best teams in the league, there had to be a change. The Spurs weren't getting those "missing pieces" they were able to attract before, so they had to rely on an annually terrible draft position. Usually San Antonio elected to take the draft-and-stash route, drafting players and letting them play overseas to hone their skills. When you're winning this is a great way to draft as it allows players to prepare themselves prior to their arrival in the NBA, but it's not something you can afford to do when you're losing.
But as big-market teams got better, spending gobs of money without an ounce of concern for the luxury tax, the powers that be decided to break the mold in San Antonio. And, as a result, the trade for Richard Jefferson will be scrutinized his entire career as a Spur. I think it's already safe to say he was and never will be worth $10-plus million to the Spurs. This contract hamstrung San Antonio in a big way as it prevented the Spurs from being able to spend money on anyone. But there's a reason this front office is considered one of, if not the best.
Without the extra money San Antonio did everything it could to add depth to an older, depleting roster, searching Europe, the D-League and the waiver wire while drafting well at the same time. And it's finally come full circle. The Spurs last five first-round draft picks, Tiago Splitter, George Hill, DeJuan Blair, James Anderson and Cory Joseph, are all still on the team or were a major part of a trade that brought the Spurs Kawhi Leonard. Add on your former European and D-League players Gary Neal and Danny Green and you can see the youth movement taking place in San Antonio ... on the cheap.
No, the double teams aren't there on Duncan anymore, but they don't need to be. This team now comes at you in ever-flowing waves, with depth and energy not seen from the Spurs in years. As Pop, Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker have adapted to this team just as their teammates have to them, less of the burden is placed on their shoulders. They finally have some help again, and it's manifesting itself in different ways every night.
One of the biggest effects the lockout has had on this season is the inconsistency of the level of play from night to night. And it's difficult to find too much fault to assign to anyone. There will be nights like last where the two sides combined for 41 turnovers in the game, but watching to see who wins that type of game will be interesting. Every win is crucial during LWM, but it's been the adventure of guessing who the next big Spurs contributor would be that night that's been so enthralling.
From Danny Green and Kawhi Leonard to Neal and Splitter, young, athletic players have found a niche in Pop's offense playing alongside the Big 3 - two of them, at least.
A this type of schedule, without question, favors the home squad. Teams will very rarely experience two or three straight days off this year, so traveling during a back-to-back or on your only day off doesn't exactly sound like a restful time. When you combine the fact these teams aren't playing their best basketball with the fact they're probably exhausted from previous games and travel, you're automatically inclined to give the home team the advantage. Home court has really helped San Antonio this year, as it's now an undefeated 8-0 in the AT&T Center and winless at 0-4 on the road.
At a time when most teams are the worst they'll be all season on the floor, the Spurs are operating at a high efficiency, relatively speaking. Ideally, by the time most NBA teams are rounding into form, Ginobili will be ready to play for a stretch run to the playoffs. And with the bench playing at the level it is right now, this experience could be extremely valuable during that time.
Every night it's been someone different. Tim and Tony have certainly been a major part of what this group is doing on both sides of the floor, but it's been the contributions from the bench and changeup of the lineup that have really fueled some tough defense and timely shot making. The San Antonio bench is turning out to be as deep as I can remember, and that's crucial for this season, especially at home.
Quick recap:
WIth Duncan not playing well, several very young players stepped up big in this one. Several different players took turns carrying the load offensively, and you might be surprised by a couple of them.
First quarter:
The Spurs were able to survive, going down by four to end the first quarter despite the fact they committed 10 turnovers that resulted in 13 points. It was a weird 12 minutes, especially for Duncan who collected two quick fouls within three minutes of the contest's tip and had four turnovers in just more than seven minutes of play. DeJuan Blair did a great job early in the quarter as he was able to avoid Portland's length on his way to eight quick points. But this game began to turn once Danny Green made his way on the floor.
Second quarter:
Green, the former Tar Heel, made an instant impact in the first with a steal and three quick points, but it was the second quarter when he really came alive. The third-year pro scored eight points in the frame on the strength of two 3-pointers and a couple of free throws. His play on the defensive end was once again a weapon for the Spurs as his constant activity, along with Leonard's, is wreaking havoc at times. With Duncan far off his game Friday night, the bench was awesome.
Third quarter:
At times this season we've seen the Big 3 put up nice numbers and get help from RJ or maybe a sixth man off the bench. But right now the Spurs are getting help from all over. Pop inserted Splitter quickly in the third quarter after Blair picked up a foul, running a big frontcourt to match the length of Portland. It worked. Splitter dropped nine points in the quarter on his way to 14 for the game. He looked as good as he's ever looked in a Spurs uniform last night. He was aggressive as ever and the Blazers were having much difficulty doing anything about it. His footwork around the rim and even his developing hook shot were things of beauty to watch on this night (OK, maybe I can't call his hook shot a thing of beauty yet). We're on the right path.
Fourth quarter:
Then it was time for the starters to close it out (plus Danny), and it started with Kawhi. The rookie continues to impress in clutch situations as he led a Spurs attack that blew out on a 14-2 run to start the final quarter. His combination of scoring, passing and athleticism is invaluable to a Spurs team that needs fresh bodies. But when it was time to close it was time for the old guard. Tony Parker scored 12 of his team-high 20 points in this in a little more than five fourth-quarter minutes, and once again he attacked the rim at every possibility, getting into the teeth of the defense and creating as well with nine assists.
Some things in life aren't completely explainable, like when logic doesn't seem to apply and everything we thought we knew is wrong. When guys like Manu go down, it's a natural reaction to temper expectations from there on out, but perhaps we've focused too much on the impact of the injury instead of truly realizing what this team has in San Antonio. I'm still trying not to get ahead of myself (especially given the fact the Spurs have yet to win on the road), but could there be more than what meets the eye?
It was an easy decision: a team without Manu and T.J., it's top two passers, is playing a group of guys in Portland it hasn't really been able to beat in recent memory. And while it's easy to recognize the difficulty of the schedule and the unfamiliarity the teams have with this kind of workload, maybe it's much more simple than that given the fact that everybody's in the same boat. Maybe you don't need a reason why the Spurs were able to pull off what appeared to be an upset on Friday night, because perhaps it wasn't even an upset at all. Maybe what's different is this Spurs team.
They just might be even better than we think.
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Stat of the night: Danny Green +/- of +28.
I didn’t watch the game but this is all i wanted to know.
Green was wonderful. No big play stands out, but he was everywhere— assists, rebounds, blocks, floaters and lay-ups. Solid.
(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW
by quincyscott on Jan 14, 2012 8:13 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not to compare Danny to Bruce, but what are Bowen’s career +/- numbers?
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on Jan 14, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
One thing I noticed last night is how much more patient the young guys are on offense: Splitter, Leonard, even Anderson in limited minutes. Last night they hustled like crazy on defense, and did a better job of showing patience on offense, trying to take what the defense was giving them. It was great to see.
(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW
by quincyscott on Jan 14, 2012 8:17 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Leonard was ferocious out there. He’s a true jack-of-all-trades player. Great passing, rebounding, and defense with a good bit of offense here and there. If he could get his offense more consistent, Leonard could possibly even become a star player. He, Danny Green, and Tiago Splitter will be forces to reckon with in the not-so-distant future. It’ll be interesting to see if &erson, Blair, and Neal can make a case for that list (in my opinion, Neal already has)
"That’s one thing I’ve been wanted to discuss with you. I’ve never mentioned my Orange Fanta crush…" - lullaby
"As long as you’ve known kaizer? That’s like being friends with Lady Gaga and never mentioning that you like to dress up!" - J.R. Wilco
Just hope he doesn’t get traded
"That’s one thing I’ve been wanted to discuss with you. I’ve never mentioned my Orange Fanta crush…" - lullaby
"As long as you’ve known kaizer? That’s like being friends with Lady Gaga and never mentioning that you like to dress up!" - J.R. Wilco
I’m with you. I want to keep everybody. I know we still may need to go get a big man. We’ll see what happens.
(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW
Well you can always look at Leonard as a pseudo-big man and I think Pop does. Neal is simply electric and many forget how incredible he was last year. Even if Anderson gets his shot going again, I don’t think he has that same firepower.
"That’s one thing I’ve been wanted to discuss with you. I’ve never mentioned my Orange Fanta crush…" - lullaby
"As long as you’ve known kaizer? That’s like being friends with Lady Gaga and never mentioning that you like to dress up!" - J.R. Wilco
same with green. khawi and green are suedo big men who can guard multiple position. Blair for god sakes is are center. he’s 6-9, same with Malcolm Thomas. I think the way the game evolving you not gonna need 7 footers anymore. theres only a hand full off good ones out there already.
by RJSpurs20 on Jan 14, 2012 9:41 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
actually, Blair is 6’7"
"That’s one thing I’ve been wanted to discuss with you. I’ve never mentioned my Orange Fanta crush…" - lullaby
"As long as you’ve known kaizer? That’s like being friends with Lady Gaga and never mentioning that you like to dress up!" - J.R. Wilco
Blair is not a true 6’7". That’s his basketball height. He’s really 6’ 5.5" without shoes.
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
He’s 6’ 3", tops.
(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW
by quincyscott on Jan 14, 2012 8:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Neal has the ability to provide spark
That gets things going. Similar to our big 3 and he did that for us last year when given opportunity. Not always consistent but excellent coming off the bench. The greatest pleasure I have had in this young season is Leonard, Splitter, and Greens defensive play. All three seem to be getting their feet under them on the scoring side but our team does much better when they get rolling defensively.
The Garrett Guillotine demands more blood!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT
If you're going to eat poison, you might as well lick the plate.
by Final Frame on Jan 14, 2012 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
I think Neal is just about reached his apex. He’s a good spark off the bench, but unless his D picks up a lot more or he develops really good PG skills, he’ll always have a weird role. We maybe can assume that Green’s role is going to get bigger. So it’s up to Anderson/Neal to battle for those extra minutes.
Winter is coming
Another thing. Yes we are playing without Manu, but I am impressed the way the bench got us back in that game last night without the services of Ford. Ford has been a great playmaker for us, but that second unit did really well without him. We are playing without a couple of pretty darn crucial guys right now. I think we have some depth, folks.
(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW
Ford was the worse injury in my opinion. We’re very deep at 2 (so much so that Leonard got the start there last night), but PG is a weak area in terms of depth. Parker still playing too many minutes in my book and Neal isn’t a PG. I think LWF (Life Without Ford) will be the bigger challenge
"That’s one thing I’ve been wanted to discuss with you. I’ve never mentioned my Orange Fanta crush…" - lullaby
"As long as you’ve known kaizer? That’s like being friends with Lady Gaga and never mentioning that you like to dress up!" - J.R. Wilco
Agreed with Parker’s minutes, and although Neal is serviceable there, he is out of position, and it is hurting his shooting, in my opinion. Maybe Cory gets some minutes here or there?
(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW
I’d love to see him be the backup 1. For better or for worse, there’s no quicker way to develop a guy and get him experience. During LWF, I say throw him onto the fire and see what he’s got. The original plan called for it anyway.
"That’s one thing I’ve been wanted to discuss with you. I’ve never mentioned my Orange Fanta crush…" - lullaby
"As long as you’ve known kaizer? That’s like being friends with Lady Gaga and never mentioning that you like to dress up!" - J.R. Wilco
And I have a funny feeling about him, that he is more ready than people think. If all he does is play defense, not turn it over, and get the ball to the open man, I think he can do fine.
(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW
I think you just described TJ Ford.
Corey Joesph has all the necessary skills and qualities to be the backup point guard, he just needs more chances to show it and to learn the NBA.
"That’s one thing I’ve been wanted to discuss with you. I’ve never mentioned my Orange Fanta crush…" - lullaby
"As long as you’ve known kaizer? That’s like being friends with Lady Gaga and never mentioning that you like to dress up!" - J.R. Wilco
Well, if his D-League numbers say anything is that his shot needs tones of work.
12ppg at 26% ain’t pretty.
When Tony’s the starter, scoring from the backup point guard spot isn’t necessary. Just a D&D guy, which Joesph definitely is.
"That’s one thing I’ve been wanted to discuss with you. I’ve never mentioned my Orange Fanta crush…" - lullaby
"As long as you’ve known kaizer? That’s like being friends with Lady Gaga and never mentioning that you like to dress up!" - J.R. Wilco
When you look at the Toros numbers, Dentmon has been the star of the team as a 6’0" PG. He’s been averaging over 5 assists to go with a 23+ppg average. He’s 26 years old, and won’t have much more of a chance to make an NBA team. Putting aside any money issues, I think I’d call him up to be the guy sitting around waiting for an opportunity to show what he can do in a game as an emergency PG and give Joseph an opportunity to get playing time in Austin. Joseph is more likely the more reliable defensive option, but it doesn’t make much difference it they only sit on the bench until garbage time.
Well, ironm8, I’ve heard of “lots of work” and " tones of home" (h/t to Blind Melon) but this is the first I’ve ever encountered these
tones of work
you speak of. Care to enlighten me? =]
When you’re this scared while dribbling by yourself, you really shouldn’t be dribbling. - bj1der
Pounding the Rock
He just go in the last 2 minutes against the Trailblazers
But he seemed to pay attention to what was going on and direct the team to get some easy passes to the guys next to the basket. Not to mention he landed one nice shot. Its a start, we’ll have to see how he does and if Pop gives him more time.
The Garrett Guillotine demands more blood!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT
If you're going to eat poison, you might as well lick the plate.
by Final Frame on Jan 14, 2012 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
No second PG showed as Portland exposed that with traps. Yes, their traps aren’t always going to work, but they screwed up the Spurs offense enough times, that if Portland was really into the game, it might have been another story. Parker had to be brought in because the offense went stale and to limit the amount of traps that Portland could play.
Winter is coming
Traps are easy to beat with passes. The problem is that Gary tries to dribble through the double teams, which is exactly what they want. I’m sure the coaching staff with address it in the film session. I’m not concerned.
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
Green also got caught up. Yes, passes can beat traps, but Neal and even Green (although I feel like Green is a little more consistent on the passes), got tricked up.
I’m not concerned, because Manu and Ford will eventually be back, but it’ll be an issue in games if opponents can apply the pressure.
Winter is coming
All that fantastic bench play has now drawn some “good” trouble.
When Ford & Manu gets back, who do you put on the bench? its obviously not gonna be Green or Leonard, Neal is also productive, and we all know that &erson has potential.
- scratches head *
Neal’s minutes will go waaaaaay down. Won’t get chances at 1 or 2 when they return other than to come in for a couple quick shots.
"That’s one thing I’ve been wanted to discuss with you. I’ve never mentioned my Orange Fanta crush…" - lullaby
"As long as you’ve known kaizer? That’s like being friends with Lady Gaga and never mentioning that you like to dress up!" - J.R. Wilco
I feel it might be Anderson. right now he’s in a funk. hope he can shake it off. there were lot of good things said about him during training camp.
by RJSpurs20 on Jan 14, 2012 9:46 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah. The things that have really surprised me so far this season are the great play of Green and the poor play of Anderson. I didn’t see either of those coming. I do hope Anderson starts playing better, whatever the cause.
(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW
by quincyscott on Jan 14, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
Hard to have Anderson lose a lot of minutes when he never had a lot to start with
"That’s one thing I’ve been wanted to discuss with you. I’ve never mentioned my Orange Fanta crush…" - lullaby
"As long as you’ve known kaizer? That’s like being friends with Lady Gaga and never mentioning that you like to dress up!" - J.R. Wilco
I’d have Mr. &erson go D-League as soon as both guys comes back.
He can dominate the D-League and it will help him gain confidence.
If anything, as soon as playoffs loom closer, the rotation will get shorter.
Yep. Better to play for the Toros than ride the pine for the Spurs. That’s why there’s a D League.
(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW
by quincyscott on Jan 14, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
I think RJ goes to the bench. What Kawhi does is valuable in the starting lineup, and RJ’s shooting is just as good with TJ getting him the ball as it would be with Manu. I think you go with whoever has the hot hand. Green and &erson are pretty inconsistent, and Neal is not a good defender by any stretch of the imagination. So I think those three sort of rotate responsibilities.
Dark days ahead
I think there’s a better chance Manu might return to the bench than RJ. The space that RJ’s shooting creates is too valuable for TIm, Tony and DeJuan and Leonard can’t provide that.
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
It makes more sense. Honestly, a RJ/Leonard set of wings is pretty solid. They both do a little bit something different.
Manu becomes the first guy off the bench and gives RJ or Parker their first rest.
Winter is coming
Agree. Did anyone notice that despite an awful shooting night, Pop kept RJ in the game for that crucial 4th quarter breakaway? It’s nice to see Jefferson still engaged defensively (and caught some big rebounds) even if his offense wasn’t working.
by silverandblack_davis on Jan 14, 2012 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
Manu’s talent is more often than not wasted in the starting lineup. He’s not used to his best of abilities, so him off the bench would make the most sense. Obviously, with TJ that need for holding up the bench isn’t as well needed, but it’s good.
I think RJ and Leonard still could start. But knowing Pop, I think he falls back to RJ/Manu. Not sure though. A lot depends on how TJ recovers too.
Winter is coming
Agreed on RJ being with second team. I think he’d actually do better there as not many second teams in the NBA are built to handle a guy like Jefferson.
"That’s one thing I’ve been wanted to discuss with you. I’ve never mentioned my Orange Fanta crush…" - lullaby
"As long as you’ve known kaizer? That’s like being friends with Lady Gaga and never mentioning that you like to dress up!" - J.R. Wilco
With the compressed schedule, Green, Leonard, and Neal will all get plenty of minutes on the court. Anderson appears to me to be too quick to look for his own shot, even if it’s not the best shot – think he’ll spend a lot of time on the end of the bench.
"Ginobili. . .He's weaving, he's throwing up triple axels in sneakers, he's willing the ball into the basket. It's Cirque du Soleil with refs." Dan Oshinsky / KENS 5
Anderson might have the green light on that. Obviously, defense tends to get you pulled, but you can get pulled by playing out of the offense like Green did against OKC.
Winter is coming
I do remember one play where JA forced the drive and drew three defenders, but instead of dropping the ball off to a wide open Splitter underneath he forced it.
by silverandblack_davis on Jan 14, 2012 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
That was Tiago best game as a spur. He dominated inside, scoring at will in the post against good defenders. Good to see Tiago being aggressivene, and playing strong on offense.
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
This
"got him at 42……Chad Ford can’t keep up with RC ‘Bargin Basement’ Buford."
Spurs Yoda on Draft Night 2011
by Joe deLarios on Jan 14, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Chris Johnson in the 3rd quarter was not a good defender. Tiago did well, but please be aware, that’s when he dominated a youngin.
I think it was great and a good confidence booster for him since he showed new moves, but this wasn’t Marcus Camby.
Winter is coming
I thought he was matched up more with Batum and Wallace? But I agree, we shouldn’t go bananas yet over Splitter’s post game. The Blazers went to super small ball and Tiago was smart enough to take advantage. I’d like to see him do that against guys the same size or bigger.
by silverandblack_davis on Jan 14, 2012 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
The game turned around quickly in the fourth quarter. It was nip-and-tuck for a long while, then Green and Leonard were able to create some separation. Splitter’s third quarter was as good as he’s had in the league and is indicative of how much potential he has.
Overall, the kiddie corp of Blair, Green, Leonard and Splitter was tremendous. In a compressed season like this one, getting those sorts of contributions is invaluable. And it’s even more satisfying that it came against a pain-in-the-ass team like Portland. Other than Aldridge, the Spurs did a tremendous defensive job to offset the turnovers they had.
Cory Joseph will have to see more minutes. Gary Neal is not meant to play point guard and Tony Parker is getting saddled with too much responsibility on a night-to-night basis. If Joseph wants to morph into George Hill, he’s welcome to.
Asked before the game how Parker has looked, Popovich said, "He’s still cute. "
Do you mean Hill’s defense? Other than that, I wouldn’t want him to take on anything more. Hill was good (and I still like him a lot), but he stood out on the Spurs because they lacked the talent. As we see, on Indy, he’s sort of lost in the shuffle. That doesn’t mean he helps them, but he’s not as athletic or not as prolific on offense.
Hill was also never a PG. In a smaller sample size, I’d argue that Neal has better court vision than Hill as a PG.
Other than that, I’d want Joseph to continue to develop into more of a Parker like PG (the one of the last few years that is a pretty good passer) since he has some scoring abilities.
Winter is coming
I don’t think Hill’s lost in the shuffle in Indy. He provides a terrific scoring spark from the bench and provides relief from 3 positions. If anything, he seems to have taken some minutes off Paul George.
by silverandblack_davis on Jan 14, 2012 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t mean his position in terms of play time, but his athletic abilities don’t stand out as much as they did on the Spurs. honestly, this season they wouldn’t as greatly as they once did…..
Winter is coming
Or importance. He’s a big reason why they are continuing to improve as a team and will be a vital part of that.
Winter is coming
Ahh. Got it, and I agree. (as I often do with whatever you say!)
by silverandblack_davis on Jan 15, 2012 6:55 AM CST up reply actions
“San Antonio has always had a decided edge in one aspect of the game nearly every time it steps on the court: the Spurs are smarter than you . . .there’s been no team smarter.”
Good win for the Spurs and all but you didn’t even mention how good looking or charming they are. Gotta just love all that Spurs humility.
"Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it." olf
I think it is being demonstrated that Bonner is very much a situational role player for the Spurs. He’s not bad at filling it, but the type of situations that he fits would usually involve Manu being in the game. Spreading the defense seems much less of an issue with the players taking up the slack in Manu’s absence. What’s currently being looked for seems to be speed, which is hardly Bonner’s strong suit.
He’s always been that. The problem is the Spurs are well under staffed, at least previous to this year. That and Pop should have jumped into the youth pool last year, using that season to develop guys. But that’s tough for a team always trying to contend. This season at least forces him with the schedule and lack of Manu/Ford.
That said, Pop didn’t change too much. Small ball is still there, but looks a little bit different but bigger. He just has bigger small ball. When you have RJ/Green/Anderson/Leonard. And then you can slot in a big like Duncan/Splitter with the rest of them and a Parker or Manu.
Unfortunately, last few years has been Hill as the offensive/defensive extra component (but too short to be fully effective as the 3). That and RJ was weaker in the past too when he was in.
Winter is coming
+1 great write up
kudos to the ever evolving FO. Think they found another gem in Green but hope his growth continues on perimeter D.
only caught the 4th quarter of this game. looked like small ball in full effect but i thought it helped that Camby was out and Aldridge was in foul trouble
by i luv this site on Jan 14, 2012 12:49 PM CST reply actions
Those two things certainly will always help. Those guys are tough… (glad you enjoyed it and thanks for reading, btw)
by MatthewTynan on Jan 14, 2012 1:16 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
In last night’s Toros’ game, Da’Sean Butler contributed 15 points, 5 rebounds and 4 assists off the bench. While some of the other Toros are putting up better number at this point with three of them getting a double-double in the game, I expect Butler is likely the best prospect for the future. While things look crowded for the Spurs at the wing for now, Butler might still be a future talent that will hopefully not get away.
I think Spurs still know what they have in Butler. Since he’s still way under the radar, they likely dumped him early so they could have him get constant attention from the Toros coaching staff. That and, it gives them more options, when trading, especially if they can bring him in. Also he could just be a future backup 3 once RJ’s gone.
Love how the Spurs have wrangled up these young guys.
Winter is coming
Great write up Matthew. I think what catches some of us by surprise is how the Spurs are winning. We are used to looking for some tell-tale signs that the team is playing well, namely few turnovers, good defense and control of the pace of the game. That’s just not what the Spurs are anymore. This team is a much better offensive team that it is a defensive team.
When I was watching the game I’d see turnovers and missed rotations and think “they are not winning this one”, when I should’ve been focusing on the ridiculously high field goal percentage they were getting. This team will get as far as the offense takes it. It’s not a reassuring thought, I know, but it seems to be the reality of this squad. The recipe seems to be great offense + occasional good defense.
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
But even there, this team is different from last year. The Spurs last season got a lot of their offense on the fast break, especially early in the season, and shot a boat load of three pointers. I am not seeing that same kind of run-and-gun offense so far this year. Yes, we are still shooting threes, but not an ungodly amount. And most of our points seem to be coming in the half court offense. At least this is the way it appears to me—I don’t know if stats actually reflect this.
(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.) -- Fred Silva and JRW
I agree with that. And also this year’s team has better individual defenders. Tiago is taking some of Bonner’s minutes and Leonard will take some of Neal’s. Two net gains in the defensive side.
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
Fourth quarter:
Then it was time for the starters to close it out
Where’s the love for Danny Green, the bench player, who played the entire fourth? I thought he had a better game than Kawhi. ACTIVE. He was active last night and earned enough respect that Pop felt confident in allowing him to close. That’s such good news.
13 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 blocks, 1 steal and only 1 turnover in 30 minutes. The game high +29 says it all..
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
I was really impressed with the help side defense that led to a couple of nice blocks and steals from timely reach-ins.
by silverandblack_davis on Jan 14, 2012 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
One thing to note, Camby was lost in the first half and that helped the Spurs. Tiago feasted on Chris Johnson in the 3rd quarter.
Winter is coming
And the “Rhino” looked more like a Duck-Billed Platypus out there. He met a real rhino in DeJuan.
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
This point definitely needs to be made. I had written a side note about it, but it seems I deleted it.
by MatthewTynan on Jan 14, 2012 4:57 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Great write up, Matthew. Glad to see you give Tony the credit he deserves for the win. The bench was great, but it was Tony who demoralized the Blazers in the end, and I’m not seeing too many comments here that give him credit.
"Ginobili. . .He's weaving, he's throwing up triple axels in sneakers, he's willing the ball into the basket. It's Cirque du Soleil with refs." Dan Oshinsky / KENS 5
No one ever gives Parker correct credit. Here and there, it comes in, but usually he gets the brunt of it if the team doesn’t perform. Sometimes he deserves it, but more often than not, he doesn’t.
Winter is coming
You mean we need to point out that the 3 time champion, 3 time all star, and finals MVP played well? I think we all realize that he’s good and played great, and fair or not, we expect that to happen. The surprises are what’s interesting. Danny Green and Kawhi are the surprises of the year so far.
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
Compared to Duncan (although that is starting to fall off too), and Manu, of the 3, usually Parker has not always gotten the same level of respect. Has he made it tougher? Yes, obviously, the Brent Barry thing didn’t make it easier.
He’s been definitely valuable to the franchise, but sometimes it does feel like he’s more forgotten than remember. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t get props at all though.
Winter is coming
Wonderful writing Matthew. The top part of the article, deserves to be a separate post by itself instead of being a part of the recap.
Keep the faith!!
Scola for RJ
So what’s this rumor that has Houston FO entertaining the idea of Scola for RJ straight up?That just started circulating a few days ago.
by Titletown99030507d on Jan 14, 2012 9:25 PM CST reply actions

Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan
by TDzilla! on Jan 14, 2012 11:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Do you have a link?
Will argue against trading #45 until I am blue in the face and your eyes and ears are bleeding.
by SpursfanSteve on Jan 15, 2012 12:22 AM CST up reply actions
Was this in NBA Live?
Winter is coming
by grego21 on Jan 15, 2012 4:26 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd.
Will argue against trading #45 until I am blue in the face and your eyes and ears are bleeding.
by SpursfanSteve on Jan 15, 2012 10:16 AM CST up reply actions

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