2011 NBA Draft Warm-up/Trade Discussion Thread
by Tim C. on Jun 23, 2011 6:00 AM CDT
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So, things have definitely become more interesting around here the last couple of days. With trade rumors involving Tony Parker, George Hill, and Richard Jefferson(as an addendum to one of the other two) swirling nearly constantly for the last 36 hours, it's still not clear what the Spurs' front office is up to. I like to think it's all part of a master plan, whereby they make out like bandits yet again.
The one thing that all the rumors have had in common was the Spurs' apparent desire to obtain a lottery pick in tonight's draft. So what are they after? Let's explore.
The most talked-about rumor has been a trade that goes something like this.
Spurs get:
Omri Casspi
#7 draft pick
Francisco Garcia(maybe)
Kings get:
Tony Parker
Richard Jefferson(maybe)
#29 draft pick(maybe)
Tom Ziller of Sactown Royalty has written some stories explaining why he thinks this deal would be good for the Kings, and I don't disagree. The Kings have the league's lowest team salary, and could absorb both Parker and Jefferson's contracts, while sending very little salary back. But unless the Spurs are thinking of moving up even further in the draft to nab someone(Derrick Williams, anyone?), it doesn't seem anywhere near beneficial to them. Nevertheless, Sacramento may have shot down the trade because they didn't want to take on Tony's contract - that's right, the Kings turned down that terrible trade, not the Spurs.
There was also a rumor of Tony-to-Toronto, but that one wouldn't be as simple, since the Raptors are over the cap, and would need to match the salaries of any player(s) headed their way.
It's also been noted by Jonathan Givony of DraftExpress that the Spurs have been shopping Hill to the teams picking 10-12.
Besides the Spurs, there are other teams rumored to be attempting trades on draft day. Minnesota has been rumored to trade the #2 pick to pretty much every other team in the league, Orlando is allegedly going to land Josh Smith, and the Lakers are rumored to be trying to get into the draft lottery as well.
If anything big goes down today, you can be sure we'll tell you about it here. In the meantime, use this thread as a hub for discussing the rumors and/or who you think the Spurs should pick. It's going to be a crazy day in the NBA.
The draft airs at 6PM Spurs time on ESPN.
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Well, if we can trade George for a pick in the 10-12 range. I am all for it. That would give the FO a lot of flexibility in order to reshape the roster without losing any core guys.
The FO would have to be as reactive as possible during the draft. If one of the Biyombos, Valanciunas, Walkers or Knights falls when we pick, they grab him (and one will fall). Then they make the 29th as a consequence:
If they draft a big, they use the 29th pick on one of the Jackson, Smith, Cole, Selby, Jenkins… and grow him into a back up PG.
If they draft a PG, they can draft n stash a player like Bertans or Mirotic, or take a flyer on a big man like Tyler…
Personally, I was (re)watching the game 1 of the 2003 Finals yesterday, and saw Tim and David welcoming the Nets with a blockparty. May I be damned, I want Biyombo, rebounds blocks und dunks.
So we could have a roster like:
Parker/Jackson/Neal
Ginobili/Anderson/Neal
Jefferson/Butler/Green
PF/C: Duncan, Splitter, Biyombo, Blair, Bonner, filler.
That’s a lot of unproven commodities, but a lot of potential too. On a side note, Valanciunas won’t come over for at least a year.
I’m solidly in the Bismack Biyombo Bandwagon. Can I drive?
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 23, 2011 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Is Biyombo sorta like the next Ibaka?
"He's the ultimate zone buster." – Bill Land on Gary Neal
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jun 23, 2011 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions
More Ben Wallace.
Unbelievable Time distortion space is the place Mean Gene Okerlund go down that lonesome highway but don't be hypnotized no- reincarnation doesn't have to be you can concentrate and you can-mental telepathy YEAH! But the beat goes on.
by SpursfanSteve on Jun 23, 2011 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions
There are already rumors that, amazingly, he is missing his spinal cord. Scouts have no idea how long his career will be as this is completely unprecedented. Some of them are completely baffled that he is even alive. It sounds like a prime candidate to drop in the draft.
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
It could be that his spinal cord was absorbed by his heart.
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 23, 2011 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
no ACLs, crooked pinky, and now (if he falls to us) a missing spinal cord?
Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan
With all these body parts “missing” Pop is creating Basketstein, the next generation of basketball player. Is unfortunate that the giving up a body parts requirements is ruining the top prospects enthusiasm to join the Spurs.
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
by LasEspuelas on Jun 23, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lol, was that completely made up? Because I just found info about his back injury, a herniated disk. http://twitter.com/#!/nbadraftnet/status/83782760086515712
"He's the ultimate zone buster." – Bill Land on Gary Neal
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jun 23, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
"He's the ultimate zone buster." – Bill Land on Gary Neal
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jun 23, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Or not. I don’t know what’s going on with that. link
"He's the ultimate zone buster." – Bill Land on Gary Neal
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jun 23, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Biyombo has the potential to be a beast on defense but zero offense. I think the Spurs are better of with Vucevic.
He can dunk it pretty well so I’m okay with that. We’ll just throw him lob passes. If he pans out like Tyson Chandler, I’d be ecstatic. He also speaks five languages, listens to world music, and has the maturity level of Nelson Mandela.
Meanwhile, Vucevic is a future stiff in the NBA. His past projections were second rounder but then moved up to late first because of other stronger prospects opting to stay in school, plus some good workouts. Not really compelling, if you ask me. If he is anywhere close to Taj Gibson then I could reconsider.
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 23, 2011 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Yea, but the part about him possibly being 45 years old instead of 19 is a bit odd and unsettling.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
Then great! The older, the better for Pop.
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 23, 2011 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Sure. Trade Hill for a lottery pick and then take a guy who has pretty low ceiling? No, thanks. Biyombo is risky, but he could patrol the paint for the next 10 years and be a perennial DPoY contender.
Zactly. I’m tired of offense. Let’s get back to having stingy defense, please.
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 23, 2011 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
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"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jun 23, 2011 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions
On other teams news, Minnesota seems to think that Cleveland might go for Williams. Otherwise why smokescreen interest in Kanter? Unless it is not a smokescreen. Everything is so confusing.
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
I agree. The FOs counter-intel is terrific
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jun 23, 2011 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions
hah then minny in a bind about choosing another PG for #2 pick
by i luv this site on Jun 23, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Hill is a steal for a 10-12 pick. You have an established player for an unknown. FO wants a lottery badly – so again, I ask, who is it?
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
Hill does a lot of good stuff, but he does nothing well and is limited. He has the best value in terms of all of his good stuff. Friendly contract and he’s going to have to be paid after this season. Everything spells making a move with Hill.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Biyombo won’t be there at 10. FO better be putting in some calls
, if that’s who they want
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
True. The most likely competitors for him are the Pistons (#8) and Bobcats (#9). Also sheds some light why they might want the Kings’ 7th pick, to get ahead of those two teams.
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 23, 2011 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions
I bet the chances of the ’Cats making a good pick are lower than the possibility that MJ will get rid of his Hitler ’stache.
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 23, 2011 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe he’s going for a Groucho mustache. Combined with his beloved cigars. If he’d just add some glasses, and maybe stoop a bit when he walks, he’d have it down.
MJ’s not very funny, though…
All these GIFs are breaking my browser.
by quincyscott on Jun 23, 2011 9:49 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Don’t forget Toronto with their new look defensive coach
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jun 23, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Ohh snap I forgot about them. But I think Biyombo at 5 might be too high, especially if a good PG like Brandon Knight is still on the board or a solid big like Kanter/Valanciunas (and you know Bryan Colangelo loves Euro guys).
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 23, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions
And they need a PG or a wing (kawshi leonard, vesely, whoever) as much as a big man (probably more).
Isn’t DeRozan a wing already? Or he’s a shooting guard?
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 23, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I’m getting dizzy with all of the speculation. I don’t feel like I have much to contribute to the threads today, so all I’ll say is that I trust Pop and RC to do the right thing for the team. If Tony goes, I’m cool with that. If George goes, I can live with it. If RJ goes, I’ll stand up and applaud. But I don’t think any of these things will happen.
Agree. Quite honestly, I’d be more surprised if something materializes. Still, I’m not giving up on the idea that a team will be dumb enough to take on RJ.
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 23, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
All of this.
All these GIFs are breaking my browser.
by quincyscott on Jun 23, 2011 10:22 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I wouldn’t put it past the Spurs to be shooting for Valanciunas despite (or in spite of, depending on lockout status) the one-year wait, then using 29 to get a big that could come in this year or getting a guard there and bring The Richness back from overseas.
"I know everthang they is to know about the shrimpin bidness."
Just read http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/bismack_biyombo (srry pasting is no good w iPad)
Sounds like he has good character, he could be a Spur
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
"I just hope I stay in San Antonio," said Parker, who is in town for Steve Nash’s charity soccer game. "I love it in San Antonio. I’ve had some great years in San Antonio. I just re-signed four years and I hope I can stay there."
"I told him [via text message], ‘Are you going to play with me?’ " Barbosa said. "He said, ‘Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.’
"I would love to play with him. You never know what can happen in the NBA. I guess we got to wait and see what’s up."
via Yahoo
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 23, 2011 9:19 AM CDT reply actions
Sounds like Tony would love a lot of things.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jun 23, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Here’s a trade proposal for the Hawks:
Parker-RJ-Hill
J-Smoove-Hinrich-Teague
We do get a double-digit decrease in the loss column.
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 23, 2011 9:28 AM CDT reply actions
any movement of Tony will result in close to double digit losses
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jun 23, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions
and J-Smoove is a headcase, resulting in close to double digit losses
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 23, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Good one. The losses probably pile up because of Teague not playing enough minutes in the RS. As for the Hawks, with the emergence of Teague, Marvin Williams is deadweight for them. Williams for RJ straight up?
Like that as well. Although the Hawks won’t be duped by that.
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 23, 2011 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Best of Everything
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/2011-NBA-draft-superlatives-best-of-everything-062111
Julyan Stone makes 2 lists
"If you run, you'll just go to jail tired!" TJ73
I looked at his stats and it’s pretty underwhelming… even at the per-40-minute metrics.
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 23, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
s&b_davis, I watched stone play for four years. The guy can ball. Playing next to Stephon Jackson and Randy Culpepper throughout his career didn’t give him a chance to score much, but his vision, defense and rebounding are above average.
There’s a lot of interest in him from the Heat, Lakers, Knicks and a few other teams. From what I’ve been reading, they always match him up against the top prospects and he’s been doing pretty good. Some of he prospects are actually turning down opportunities to work out against him. I’m pretty sure he’ll be selected, just don’t know where in the draft. 6’7" point guards are not very common.
The one that I’m curious to see if he gets drafted is Randy Culpepper. Dude is barely 6’, if that, but explosive as anyone else. If he was 6’4"-6’6", this dude would be a lottery pick.
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by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jun 23, 2011 9:59 AM CDT reply actions
Before I go, here is a quite awful three-team (!!!) trade proposal, just because:
Spurs get: Calderon-Biedrins
Raptors get: Parker
Warriors get: RJ-James Johnson-Solomon Alabi (who?)
I’d maybe throw in the Raps’ 5th pick there if the trade machine allowed it, and give our 29th pick to the Warriors.
And this is why I’m not a GM.
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 23, 2011 10:00 AM CDT reply actions
Did anyone go to Parker’s scrubtastic pool party? Is this an athlete pictured on the right? At first glance I thought it was Ryan Richards.
heh, i wasnt only one that noticed that. as a bonus how many are in 2 piece swimsuits. yeah its great to be single athlete making millions
by i luv this site on Jun 23, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Alex Kennedy – 06/22/2011 10:43pm EST-
The San Antonio Spurs and Portland Trail Blazers nearly completed a blockbuster trade on Wednesday afternoon, but the deal fell apart in the late stages. San Antonio was prepared to ship Tony Parker and the #29 pick to Portland in exchange for Andre Miller, Nicolas Batum and the #21 pick. Other players would have been added in order to make salaries work. However, the deal died when the Spurs insisted that Richard Jefferson be included in the talks. Since San Antonio’s attempt to add Jefferson, talks have quieted, but they could pick up tomorrow if one of these teams has a change of heart.
hoopsworld.com
damn – nobody wants RJ. guess you don’t have to be fellini to figure that one out.
i like the aggressive posture san antonio appears to be taking. as much as i love little TP for what he has done, he is the right person to go if we are going to start the overhaul now and keep winning along the way.
i also heard that the spurs were trying to pry raymond felton away from denver. anyone got anything on this?
I would turn down that trade if I were in Portland, too. They don’t have the salaries to make it work well for them. They would have to do something like one of these:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6j4wktj
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=5td6nlw
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=66vglyg
Our best bet would be to not include RJ if we want to move Tony. In that case, they would either have to include Wesley Matthews, or a bunch of their guys with <$2mil contracts. That’s too many bodies to move, so the Matthews trade looks better, but we’d probably have to include Hill: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6gclke8
"He's the ultimate zone buster." – Bill Land on Gary Neal
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jun 23, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
There’s no way they move Matthews with Roy’s career basically done. That was a stellar free agent signing.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Yeah, I doubt they’d want to lose him as well, but there aren’t many ways for them to trade Miller and Batum to us, if that’s what the FO wanted. It was either Matthews, or like 4-5 of their crappy players
"He's the ultimate zone buster." – Bill Land on Gary Neal
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jun 23, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Spurs would need to push the draft picks. I’m sure Portland still has a good amount of nice picks from all their moves over the past years. Spurs would have to figure out what else they’d want though.
My guess is Matthews is pretty much off limits except for a few deals like if they were going to get Dwight Howard or someone like that.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
This would be an awful trade for the Spurs. I cant believe how low the Spurs are selling TP.
Miller is a bad fit for the team, and thnk he’s very overrated. The only thing he can do is throw lob passes. He is a fastbreak stopper.
Batum is a really nice player but no way is he worth Tony PArker. And theres not much dfference between a 21th pick and a 29 pick.
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
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by DrumsInTheDeep on Jun 23, 2011 10:28 AM CDT reply actions
Yes, it is OK. If I catch any fish in the mountains next month I will be posting them on the first available thread, no matter what the subject. Pictures, though; not the fish themselves.
"I know everthang they is to know about the shrimpin bidness."
Ha ha. If I really wanted to be a jerk, I’d have pic-spammed the thread without subject lines.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jun 23, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Apparently the Jazz were in talks to get Parker, but those fell apart when(what else is new) the Spurs wanted to include RJ. The story’s on Project Spurs, which is firewalled here at work, so I don’t have all the details.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
I think somebody tweeted on the front page of PTR that the Jazz wanted Parker for Devin Harris and the 12. Ugh…
That’s not good at all. The 12th pick is not that great unless you can turn it around to move further up, which is no guarantee.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
I might do it real-time if somebody the Spurs are really high on drops that far. But no, it doesn’t seem like a good deal at the moment.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
Gut feeling Tim…..do you really think the Spurs are going to trade Parker and try and move up for someone in the lottery?
I don’t know. We’ve all heard these rumors almost every year for quite a while, but it feels different this time. I think there’s a better chance. Maybe 40/60 instead of 10/90.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
I agree that this time does feel a little different than before. Bucher has been all over ESPN saying that he thinks the Spurs are more likely to move Parker, even if it’s not tonight. The only thing that makes me wonder is that everything we know about the Spurs tells us how “covert” they operate. And this has been a very public situation. And not only that, but it publicly, looks like they don’t know what they are doing. So I just wonder how true these rumors can be when we’ve seen how the Spurs operate after all these years.
Perhaps, they’ve created more noise to cover what they really want to do (still make a move), but make it tough to figure out what they really want to do so to speak. Yes, move Parker to get best assets, but to get what?
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
It does seem a lot like a CIA misinformation campaign, lol.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
Yeah, it feels like a Poker game in the sense that they are bluffing a lot rather than playing conservative. In some ways it might be better since they need others to give them stuff, but they don’t want to be backed into a corner. So what do the Spurs really need? A lot of things, but do they need it that badly? The GM of the opposing team can’t be that sure.
And I’m sure Spurs are throwing out deals that they know, only Isiah Thomas would accept just to throw people off their scent.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Spurs are forced to make moves while they have assets so it makes sense why it feels a little bit different.
In the past, Spurs could be picky with the Big 3, but they can’t as much any longer.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
BTW that’s 40/60 on any trade to move up, not just Parker.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
I just feel like the toothpaste is kind of already out of the tube, so to speak, on a TP trade right now. I think that the fanbase is kind of excited to have a move made (even if it’s not in the best interest of the team), just to get a move done. And we’ve always known that besides Winter shoes, TP is the one who gets the most criticism on the team. So it just kind of seems like Tony is going to move at some point. I just can’t envision a move that makes sense and I like (I did like Tim Varner’s thought of getting a few picks to move up to #2 to get Williams).
Which is smart, unless you are getting a lot of talent for Parker.
For Parker, you either have to:
A) get lots of good talent
B) get some talent, but also take a bad contract
That’s how trades usually go unless you want to be the loser in the trade/one sided trade.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
What do yall guus think about enes kanter. I thnk he seems pretty based?.?.
by LILBTHEBASEDGOD on Jun 23, 2011 12:34 PM CDT reply actions
I did just read that it looks like Portland may have given up on SA and is looking to Orlando to make a deal. Looks like a Jameer Nelson for Andre Miller and the 21st pick trade.
Also the Cavs appear set on the 4th pick being the big man the Spurs were rumored to be trying to move up and get, Valanciounas. Apparently he was in Cleveland yesterday. Of course this could all be a smoke screen, but that might stop the Spurs from moving up to the 5 or 7 if he is the guy they are looking at.
I wish Spurs tried to go Parker/RJ/Hill for Batum/Miller some draft pick for the future potentially.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
You think the Spurs would give up both Hill and Parker? Who plays point or backup point? Miller is older and slower. And that leaves Chris Quinn as the backup. So now we’ve lost our best PG, our best backup and gotten older and less athletic in the back court.
Yes to Hill because
1) Free agent after this season
2) Not a PG
3) 2 guard who has limited size
4) Manu/Neal/Anderson and potential for Butler (at the 3) and Green
5) Best talent/value/contract to move around and get something back. Can also be lumped in with a bigger contract like a Dyess or RJ to get a tradde moving.
Miller is older, but if you are thinking winning with Manu/Duncan, old doesn’t matter as much if you get athletic in other key areas. Batum would do that, for instance.
PG is an f’ed up situation even if nothing happened at all. Parker is the PG, Manu is the backup.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
I’m honestly surprised that none of the trade rumors have included Dice’s paritally guaranteed contract. That would seem to be one of the Spurs’ best trade chips, unless they’ve been told to cut salary(a very real possibility, unfortunately, especially given that most of these rumors include RJ).
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
We would want to cut salary as low as possible first, shipping tony, RJ, restructuring Tim’s contract, and then if we needed to sign and trade to get our FA we’d use the McD contract
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Dyess is their 25th hour piece. Don’t use him until you need a closer. To be honest, if a deal happens, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him pop up in that final deal.
Also, I feel like, they might try to do two deals. Use Dyess with Hill to maybe move further up in the draft or something like that.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Seen on Daily Thunder(OKC TrueHoop blog):
Take this with a grain of salt…no real source:
RUMORS out of Philadelphia…Sixers, Spurs and Jazz about to announce a three team trade.
Sixers send Andre Iguodala to Utah for the #3 Pick in this years draft. Sixers also get Memet Okur and R. Bell.
The spurs then send Tony Parker to Utah for the #12 Pick, Utahs 2nd round pick next year and Devin Harris and the Sixers M Speights
::sigh::
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
Now is the best time in the contract and skill level, so if you are going to push him out, you do it now. Spurs also have some other good trade pieces with Dyess and Hill so the combinations are a little more flexible at the time.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Also seen over there… Thunder are set on taking Reggie Jackson in the first round, so Maynor is being shopped. Since we could use a backup PG who is actually a PG, maybe RC should give Presti a call.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
Here’s the story, and all the juicy stuff is in the comments.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
Also thought it was interesting, when reading the comments, that somebody mentioned both the Spurs and OKC (Buford and Presti) are willing to give up young and talented players to move up. So maybe there is a player that they are both coveting and these guys are the 2 smart GM’s who want to go get him.
Well, Presti has so much that it doesn’t matter if he gives them up. Maynor definitely upped his trade value this past post season. Best time to shop him before he becomes expensive to afford.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Yeah, I think that’s the whole reason they’re shopping him. Their depth is going to become too expensive to afford(small market team, limited budget) once Westbrook/Harden have to get paid, so it’s best to replenish the depth with rookie contracts when possible.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
Man, Maynor is one of the best backups Spurs could get. Heck, he’d make a decent starter as well. Heck, if they could do something with Hill to get him, i’d go for that.
Then I’d be ok with a deal that gets Harris.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Take this with a grain of salt…no real source
That’s the part that stands out to me.
If it’s true, I’m OK with it. I rather get Millsap from Utah than Speights but if the Spurs are set on acquiring a lottery pick, that’s probably the best deal out there. At least the only one that nets us a starting quality PG as well as the pick.
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
CIA Pop at it again. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2011/news/story?id=6696754
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
Sounds like something the Spurs would chase. It might allow them to move up, but not have to get in the top 10. Maybe this is why they’d consider a deal for the 12th pick. Although it still seems risky that he’d get buy all those teams in the top 10.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
First he has a bad workout in Italy, then stuff comes out about him having back issues, then something about buyout issues, all on the eve of the draft? You called it, TLO – classic CIA Pop move.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
TP
does that stand for toilet paper or Tony Parker
sarcastic front….
"A job well done is better than a job well said."
by I bleed Red and Black on Jun 23, 2011 2:01 PM CDT reply actions
@WojYahooNBA
Kings have made it privately clear that they expect to trade 7th pick, sources say. “They’re confident they have deal,” one official says.
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It makes sense for them. They have youth already, but need to build around it. And this draft doesn’t seem as deep to many, so it’s a good one to try to get something out of.
I would not be shocked to see a decent amount of draft pick deals during the draft.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Scarrrrrry we could have a new team by 7PM San Antonio time. This is better than Days of Our Lives.
by indiancharlie on Jun 23, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
They can have RJ. Good wing player when he can be the first or second option. Veteran leadership for a young team. Proven athlete in the NBA. Trying my best to sell him here,
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Honestly, he can fit on a lot of teams if they run or actually run plays on him. He has a much improved jump shot now and his D improved.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Exactly. He torched us both games when he was in Milwaukee.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
If Spurs would run offense around him a little bit more, they could get the best of him. I’d put him ahead of Duncan in terms of players to run offense around.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Only problem with that is, having your first 3 offensive options be perimeter players is an incredibly unbalanced attack. It would work well most of the time, but probably fail in the playoffs.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
basically better version of the Suns or Golden State then?
The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.
That’s not a bad thing though. The difference is the Spurs think defense even though they can’t always take actionable steps on it.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
I didn’t see that in the mentality of the players last year. It felt like the team thought, “I’m gonna try somewhat to stop this guy, but if he scores oh well. We’ll outscore them anyway”. Sadly this mentality doesn’t work in the playoffs and I never really saw it change.
The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.
There were some instances but I think they became complacent with the record. With all the new guys it’s hard to say “the Spurs don’t do that” anymore. Only four guys are still here from the championship years so the team mentality isn’t the same.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Not all players, but some. that’s why the team D looked good at times and bad at others. honestly, aside from the vets, the super young guys who wanted time like Green put in the effort. In between, it was lacking at times.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Manu and Parker are both penetrate first players. RJ has a decent post game when he has the advantage. They have also had success with RJ in the midrange game off screens.
Since he can hit the shot, teams have to play him honest which should open up the basket for him since he’s more prone to get a charge if you just try and force him to charge.
Duncan is a jump shooter now, so the first 3 options are perimeter oriented if you want to argue it that way.
With RJ, it could work in the regular season and playoffs because it is predicated on only a few key steps.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
He’s really good in the post but I remember seeing all of maybe 2 post ups from him all year. It would help a lot if he got it down there more.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
It’s up to the coaching staff to allow that though. RJ is playing “within the offense” so he can only go as far as they allow him to.
He also had success on midrange jumpers off the screen set by Duncan. With a big man picking the guy it gives you that space for a good set shot or a drive to the basket if they try to go through the screen, especially if the team doesn’t have a Dwight Howard near the rim.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Please for the love god, let’s move Blair/Hill/Dyess/RJ/Parker (any combo or any of those) for either:
A) Good lottery pick
B) Good cheaper wing starter
C) Defensive big man who’s 6’10" and up
D) Backup point guard
E) Someone who’s a true low-post scorer who can body up on 7-footers
The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.
I understand the need to look to the future, but if the Spurs draft someone with a big buyout or too young to contribute now…especially if they trade contributing members of the team to do it, Imma be real pissed off
While complacency costs, perseverance pays
If the Spurs wanna win now with Duncan and Gino, I agree. If they don’t and go with future guys, then just go ahead and trade the big 3 because I don’t wanna waste their valuable times if we’re not going for a fifth title.
The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.
Agreed. Although I think the Spurs have been rebuilding since ’08 but have not had to go into the lottery to do it. So either way I would be fine with whatever they do since I already see them as a rebuilding team.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Hey if they wanna rebuild, now’s the time to do so. But if it won’t be finalized for two or three years, then trade the big 3 so as to not waste their time and help in the rebuild.
The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.
Aldridge @ 1pm:
The Spurs are targeting the No. 10 pick (Milwaukee) or the No. 12 pick (Utah) to move up from their spot at No. 29.
The Spurs are offering reserve point guard George Hill as bait to see if there’s a chance they can get a higher pick and choose center prospect Jonas Valanciunas, who is expected to stay overseas with a tricky contract buyout situation. The Bucks, who already have Brandon Jennings as their starting point guard and veteran Keyon Dooling as a backup, aren’t interested in this deal. The Jazz may still be weighing such an offer.
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
Jennings is overrated though…
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Yeah he’s a one dementional scorer that doesn’t pass enough or play good defense….wait a second..
Tiago Splitter > Matt Bonner
Trading a Key guy for a prospect we would have to wait for…….I don’t get it. Although I do see why they would trade Hill. I think (and maybe the team does to) that Anderson will be a better player than George when it’s all said and done. This might be why they aren’t as worried about letting him go.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Isn’t George in the middle of Spurs basketball camp? How would that conversation go if he was traded?
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
And then I’d have to unfollow him on Twitter.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jun 23, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
meh, really have a bad feeling about tonight’s draft
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
Well, this feeling that you’re feeling… is what some of us call “a feeling.”
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jun 23, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
-well, maybe what you’re feeling is love
-I know what an erection feels like michael.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
This is what I’d like to see happen:
Trade Tony and Blair for Caspi, Jason Thompson and # 7.
Draft Klay Thompson.
Then Trade RJ plus Neal or Anderson and our #29 pick for a good PG already in the league. But I don’t know who can or would absorb RJ’s contract.
Tiago Splitter > Matt Bonner
Oy. This doesn’t solve anything, IMO. We’ll see how it goes.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
Woj keeps tweeting about Spurs Kings with more and more details. Could something really be going on?
A casual diehard Spurs fan.
of all the deals we’ve been told about I think the Kings deals are the best
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Caspi though? What am I missing here? This deal doesn’t sound good at all.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
yup, we are just giving parker away to get rid of RJ. And a 7th pick is not very good
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
cap space does wonders… but sadly it seems to be slipping away
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Spurs are letting RJ dictate too much in their deals. I’d be fine with keeping him if you can get more with Parker.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
I think the Spurs are just playing mind games, they could easily switch dice for RJ and get some more back after wearing other FO down mentally.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh i definitely think they are testing teams seeing how much they are willing to take. I think the Spurs plan is to put a lot of deals out there so they can position themselves properly. We’ll see if it works.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Sounds like the Bucks are the ones with a deal for Sacto’s #7 pick.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
http://twitter.com/#!/DraftExpress/status/83989004382502912
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
hey tim, who’s the character on your avatar and what anime is he on? he looks like light.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
gol
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
DA knocks Bismack down to 4th in 4 position
DAs final mock here
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
Ticket 760
BLOCKBUSTER TRADE IN THE MAKING STAY TUNED!
STILL GETTING THE DETAILS BUT IT DOES AFFECT THE SPURS
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
This could be about the MIL-CHA-SAC deal, who knows.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
@chadfordinsider Corrected deal: Bucks get Beno, Stephen Jackson, Shaun Livingston & 19. Bobcats get pick 7 & Maggette. Kings get 10 & John Salmons
"I know everthang they is to know about the shrimpin bidness."
Interesting. John Salmons was drafted by the Kings, but now he’s much more expensive!
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Wait, you might be right on that or am I imagining someone else. Meh.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Not sure. By recent I was referring to the Orlando letting him get signed by Toronto at a higher price than ORL was willing to re-sign him at, then getting him back in a trade anyway. Sorry if that was misleading as I don’t know who drafted him originally.
"I know everthang they is to know about the shrimpin bidness."
now this is a reliable source, these guys broke the RJ trade too if I remember correctly….
my gut says if we get UTAH’s pick we’re after singleton, if its a pick in the early 20s, Montiejunas
and if its lower I have no idea, but I think we seem to be after cap space
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
lol @ Hirschof on Twitter.
Three cheers for chaos! #HipHipWTF
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
Kings have the #10 pick now. Salmons/#10 for Parker is better than anything else we’ve heard from them.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
is singleton a 3 or a 4? can’t shoot, so I’m guessing more of a 4?
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by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
he’s a SF think bruce, but bigger. He’s an offensive liability but he could learn to hit a corner 3, Burce did
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait, WTF am I thinking. Hill for the #10 straight up.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
lol
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you think the #10 instead of the #7 pick enables us to include RJs contract with Tony’s in a deal to SAC
Milwaukee clearly “won” that trade. S-Jax, Beno, and a higher pick for Salmons/Maggete? Lots of champagne bottles being popped in Milwaukee.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
I wanted SJAx back
:(
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
his contract is like identical to RJs, he was good there, maybe they’d take him back if Jax made some noise
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude, with the way the Spurs play right now, Sjax wouldn’t be able to do everything he did elsewhere. RJ is better than his play in SA and Sjax would be reduced in some ways unless the offense was somewhat built around him as well.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
I’m starting to think we’re about to get the biggest blockbuster deal in Spurs history, or absolutely nothing at all. There is no weird third thing.
The last time the Spurs did a trade like that it didnt work out that well for us
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
So…no one wants to include Blair in any of these deals?
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
i would if we could get value for him, turns out undersized rebounding machines are like a dime a dozen this draft
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
So that’s a good thing no?
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
yes if we can trade blair for a pick, I’d roll the dice and maybe replace him with someone slightly more versatile
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Only if we get a serviceable(read: defense) big in return.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
I had Biyombo on my mind to replace Blair, especially if he starts falling in the draft
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
WojYahooNBA
The Spurs are still burning up the phone lines, trying to get into the lottery.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
keep pounding that rock, eventually someone will offer us a sweetheart deal like Milwaukee
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I would absolutely love to know who they’re targeting. Better not be any European bigs.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
I hope he’s not a target, but rather someone we might grab up opportunistically
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I couldn t say I know much about the other guys. Just saw some Biyombo clips and liked him. The guy can play D.
The guy can play D
Understatement of the day.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
i’m sure one of the analysts will say that when his name is called.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Ive never been quoted before.
Your lucky day?
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
super super?
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
(super)^2
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
i think so as well
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jun 23, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Parker to Bobcats for 7th and 9th pick? pick up biyombo and singleton?
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
I am so against Montiejunas..
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
he’s going to stay overseas for a few years
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
Plus he doesn’t seem worth anyone it would require to get him.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
I don’t know, I heard our front office really likes him, but like everything these days its just a rumor
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
every time i read his name i want to say Van Jesely… i just can’t get over it
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
same here, makes me think of van helsing, then I think about other nba players screaming van helsing if he does something good.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
‘Cats are expected to pick Biyombo, which seems to make Tyrus Thomas redundant. I’m just sayin’.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
I read that but now woj says its for Tristan Thompson
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
sometimes you gotta shake it up for the sake of shaking it up
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Spurs are slated to draft Tim Duncan at #1.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
by grego21 on Jun 23, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
no body knows anything, only one trade has gone down
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
The Spurs are going to blow up the team, and will rebuild around Chris Quinn
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
by spursfan87 on Jun 23, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Even though he got the job done Frodo died at least 4 times before that…
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Would you care if something happens to Quinn if we win another championship?
A casual diehard Spurs fan.
The last rumor was Manu, Neal, and Bonner to the Lakers for Luke Walton and eleventy billion dollars.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jun 23, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Spurs will pick at #29
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
therefore we post on this forum
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
because everything else I’ve done to pass the last 5 hours couldn’t be consumed by the public
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
teams aren’t crackin’ on peanut.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
After all the rumors, at this point I’ll be happy with whatever happens. Go Spurs Go. This is just too much. Whatever happens I’ll take it.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
RMJ to the Spurs for Parker!
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
no need, he’s an unrestricted free agent
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
are you high?
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by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jun 23, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Man, these past two days have driven my work productivity to complete crap. Thank goodness the draft is tonight.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
I was thinking about creating a drinking game tonight – drink every time someones mentions a possible trade. However, I think that would be a bit much, even for me.
I do not want people to be agreeable, as it saves me the trouble of liking them. - Jane Austen
Ibve need playing dat lall ddaeeeyyy!!!!
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
My Spurtivity has been complete crap because I been busy at work.
A casual diehard Spurs fan.
by Sh!fty on Jun 23, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You need to get your priorities straight.
I do not want people to be agreeable, as it saves me the trouble of liking them. - Jane Austen
by CapHill on Jun 23, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Trade Hill and Parker!!! Sign Iverson and Marbury
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
Then we can take it to another level, and then another level, and then a level beyond that, until we take it to another level.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
@FakeCoachPop: WHERE IS MY ABACUS??? WHO MOVED MY ABACUS FROM MY DESK!!!!!!
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by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jun 23, 2011 4:47 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
try in the cellar
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jun 23, 2011 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
we need Dennis Rodman
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
And we can trade him for Will Purdue, again!!
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Triple Towers, unite!
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jun 23, 2011 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
We need Artis Gilmore
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by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jun 23, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Hellz yeah!
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jun 23, 2011 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
We need a hero.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
So Biyombo has a buyout issue with his Spanish team, does that change anyone’s thinking? what bigs do ya’ll have your eye on tonight, perhaps for the spurs to move up and draft, or just to draft at 29
Bismack
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jun 23, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME.
Probballdraft
Being told by a league source that #Spurs trading Tony Parker for 10th pick is likely to happen. Look for SA to target Donatas Motiejunas
This has to be a joke. Has to be.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
you’ve got to be f#$*&# kidding
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jun 23, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
hah, it’s still funny even if it isn’t a joke.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
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You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
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You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Anything is possible, but I’m sure there’s a lot of BS out there because Spurs have been mentioned in so many deals with so many different picks.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Who has the 10th? Who could be included if it happened? Because is certainly not straigh up, right?
A casual diehard Spurs fan.
its SAC, they’re under the cap so they can take salary for nothing if they want
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
there must be more to it than that if its true… and at 10 I have to believe we’d target someone better, given that Monte is expected to be available in the 20s
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
@FakeCoachPop: Crisis averted. Found my Abacus, HR accidentally boxed it up with Parker’s things. Carry on.
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by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jun 23, 2011 4:53 PM CDT reply actions
Pop should’ve cloned Duncan as soon as he drafted him in 97. The clone would be 14 right now.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 4:53 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
It’s already been done, but you didn’t here it from me.
"He's the ultimate zone buster." – Bill Land on Gary Neal
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jun 23, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
wrecked
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jun 23, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Pop should have cloned Robinson as soon as he was drafted in 87. The clone would be 24 right now
by i luv this site on Jun 23, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
OK. I have to go now and won’t have access for a few hours. Anyone in Mexico who can text me if anything important happens?
A casual diehard Spurs fan.
just my guns.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
that was such a good yet sad segment.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Ever been dove hunting and the birds are flying over your friends and you can’t get a shot off? It is horrible…
Dick Cheney has a solution to your problems!
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
i was thinking Gecko
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jun 23, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
not even his campaign staff is voting for him
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
not what dick cheney said
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jun 23, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
never happens to me, I go hunting with Cheney… but I stay behind him
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
i iload his gun w/ blanks the night before…
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jun 23, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Apparently Salmons and 10th has some credibility.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
for Parker and RJ or just Parker?
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on Jun 23, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
they can’t give RJ away
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jun 23, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
that is what busted up the deal in the first place
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jun 23, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
the difference now is 3 picks lower and salmons 8 mil contract they may want to be rid of
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
must really, really want that 10 and under slot
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jun 23, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t believe that. Salmons? What do we need another 2/3 for?
"He's the ultimate zone buster." – Bill Land on Gary Neal
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jun 23, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
To trade for another pick….
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
damnit dood, stop that!!!
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jun 23, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Just saying it could happen.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
trade?
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jun 23, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
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by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jun 23, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
yummy!
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jun 23, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Known for swimming upstream in the wake of death without knowing the future..
by indiancharlie on Jun 23, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Red Herring?
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on Jun 23, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I just hope RJ is traded, with anyone but Timmy/Manu. I’d be happy with that, regardless of next years results. Spurs get another Euro that doesn’t play, I’m going to slap my dog!
"If you run, you'll just go to jail tired!" TJ73
Poor? He lives better than I do. Damn wife!!
"If you run, you'll just go to jail tired!" TJ73
by TrooperJoe73 on Jun 23, 2011 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
lucky dog?
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jun 23, 2011 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
So trade RJ, but if the Spurs results suck more, it’s ok, because RJ is traded?
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
OK, not really, but trade him please! He’s the only guy that has me pulling my hair out. Dude is frustrating. I understand the system doesn’t fit his skills, but his lack of motivation is inexcusable for his salary! Stand around and watch!? Damn it, try harder RJ!
"If you run, you'll just go to jail tired!" TJ73
by TrooperJoe73 on Jun 23, 2011 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
His motivation was fine until the game he got pulled and before that. But if you make a guy just become a shooter, but then Spurs can’t find shots, it’s pretty bad.
Bad on him, but the team also does a bad job of actually using him.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Bonner is the one that needs to be removed. atleast RJ plays something that could resemble defense. I don’t know what the hell Bonner does on the defensive end of the court. He’s the Anti Horry. Shoots 50% in the regular season but playoffs come around and i think you could pick someone up at a random rec center that would fair better.
by The Calvinator on Jun 23, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Tony trade off for the moment.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
says who
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by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jun 23, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t see it, do you have a link?
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by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jun 23, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
NBATV dude. It’s live.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
oh im not watching that
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by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jun 23, 2011 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
no NBATV here, can you give me any details?
by RamblingSpur on Jun 23, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
So This Happened of the Day: So here’s what supposedly went down: Justin Bieber was signing autographs outside the Herald Square Macy’s as part of the highly anticipated launch event for his new perfume, when an undercover cop noticed the crowd was getting rowdy and rushed to help Bieber.
Except Bieber mistook the plainclothes cop for a crazed fan and put up his dukes (some reports say he was knocked down by the charging man).
Bieber’s security grabbed the cop, who immediately identified himself and cited the tackling team member for disorderly conduct. Bieber, who possibly sustained minor injuries, was reportedly "startled and shaken up" following the incident.
PROTIP: Whenever you knock Justin Bieber down, he will not stay on the ground.
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by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jun 23, 2011 6:01 PM CDT reply actions
Dunks? What are those?
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
2 point Highlights?
"If you run, you'll just go to jail tired!" TJ73
by TrooperJoe73 on Jun 23, 2011 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
let the 3 hours of boring begin!
can't forget Matty, if you did you'd feel gyped
like your sandwich ain't a sandwich without Miracle Whip
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