Sources: Spurs may trade Parker for Sac. #7th pick + Casspi (Rumor)
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jun 22, 2011 2:58 AM CDT
in Spurs News
Email
PrintPossible trade Parker for Casspi + #7 pick?
Hot on the wires is that the Spurs are looking to move Tony Parker (source) to a lottery team. One rumor that potentially has legs is the Spurs looking to move up to the #7 spot, currently owned by the Sacramento Kings. Adrian Wojnarowski (Yahoo! NBA) reported that this would not be a one-for-one deal, including Omri Casspi, a player RC Buford has been "long fond of".
Wojnarowski previously reported,
The Spurs have talked to teams in the lottery, including the Toronto Raptors and Sacramento Kings, who hold the fifth and seventh picks, respectively. The Kings are determined to get a frontline point guard, and have also talked with the Denver Nuggets about Raymond Felton.
It’s unclear who the Spurs would prefer to take if they acquired a high lottery pick.
Casspi, a 22 year old 6'9" Forward from Israel, drafted by Sacramento in 2009, two years fresh into the NBA. Last season, Casspi averaged 8.6 ppg, 4.3 rebs, 3.5 3PT-A, 37.2% overall 3PT in 71 games. Casspi currently has a guaranteed $1.3 million contract for the 2011-2012 season, with a team option of $2.2 million in 2013.
Currently, DraftExpress has Jimmer Fredette (6'2" PG from BYU) being the #7 pick.
Do the Spurs risk losing their "go-to" player that isn't Manu for an unproven rookie behind George Hill? It doesn't seem very Popovich, but then again neither do these trade rumors.
With a pick that high, the Spurs have their hand in the proverbial cookie jar. They could possibly pick Jonas Valanciunas, a 6'11" center from Lithuania. DraftExpress has his best case scenario to be the next, "Andris Biedrins meets Joakim Noah", and the worst case scenario to be Omer Asik. Wojnarowski claims sources have stated Valanciunas may be committed overseas and would have to wait two years to play in the NBA.
It will be interesting to see if these rumors have legs, or if it is just another smoke screen the Spurs front office is so good at throwing.
199 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
I hope this is just a rumour. Casspi is fine, and #7 pick is a #7 pick. But you dont fucking trade an all-star point guard, MVP of the finals in his prime for just 2 nice but not awesome assets.
"Kevin Garnett once described defending Tim Duncan as "trying to guard a tree"
It’s a bit much. Tony Parker is a three-time All-Star and an NBA Finals MVP. If there’s someone like that available at the No. 7 spot, fine. Do the trade. But it’s a very weak draft. In a draft this week, getting a player as good as Tony Parker with the No. 1 pick would make Cleveland ecstatic.
Asked before the game how Parker has looked, Popovich said, "He’s still cute. "
There is one problem with saying things like this though. Parker was voted to be the NBA finals MVP in 2007, but he was hardly the best player for the playoffs. The Spurs exploited a major advantage at the point guard spot and so Parker played the best for that series. It would be like giving the Finals MVP to Jason Terry this year even though Dirk carried the Mavs through the playoffs.
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on Jun 22, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I think that’s a little harsh to compare Parker to Terry. Parker was way more consistent on that part, but I’d still give the MVP to Duncan because, he’s Tim Duncan (prior to his recent decline due to age).
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
I wasn’t comparing the two, but rather pointing out that Parker was not the #1 player on the Spurs that playoffs. Just like Terry could be the most valuable player in a series for Dallas, Parker was for the Spurs in 07. Parker’s dominance just happened to be the Finals.
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on Jun 22, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
His MVP finals was a product of a really easy series. And Tim and Manu defering. He was never better than Tim or Manu, never will be. And He’s what made 2 all-stars and probably only because he was married to Longoria. How many All-NBA teams has he made? All defensive teams? If Sac added Thompson in that deal I’d do it.
Tiago Splitter > Matt Bonner
Wow, that’s insulting to him. Overall career wise, he won’t be better than Duncan, but most aren’t. And in terms of consistency, he’s been more consistent and healthier than Manu. Manu is great, but he’s also had areas where he could improve.
Spurs wouldn’t be where they are without the Duncan and the other two. He played well in that post season and that should not be diminished.
Parker is a really good player, one of the best Spurs in history and one of the best in the paint scorers for a fairly small guard that the NBA has seen.
His off the court might not be pristine, but that doesn’t mean he’s not a valuable piece to the Spurs. And he shouldn’t be traded for crap because Spurs need to make a deal to upgrade their roster
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Uncalled for comment
How are you gonna shit on what the dude has accomplished with this team over the years? Like Grego21 stated Parker earned every one of those All Star appearances and is one of the better point guards in a league where point guards are almost a dime a dozen.
Just a few years ago he carried the team into the playoffs putting up great numbers. I love Manu just as much as the next person but to say Tony hasn’t been more consistent than Manu is just a down right lie. I understand Manu hasn’t been as consistent because of injuries but that is part of the game and Parker has been way healthier and more dominate for a longer stretch of time
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 22, 2011 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
If we want to get really nit picky and focus on negatives, Manu’s And-One foul on Dirk most likely cost the Spurs that championship in 06. Spurs likely would beat Miami with home court and a Duncan still in his prime along with Parker/Manu.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Almost coming in first place is coming in 2nd place still. Come backs or not, it’s not a comeback without going all the way. It’s like Duncan’s amazing shot didn’t matter after Fisher hit that shot at 0.4….
It doesn’t bother me and I don’t hold anything against Manu, but if we are going to nit pick, this is one area that needs to be brought up if we are going to dump on Parker.
heck, without Horry, Duncan’s missed tip in against Detroit would have likely proved disastrous as well.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
i agree tony gets more crap then he deserves some times but also he is a score first point that cant shot 3s or ft as well as points should…for the most part about half the people don’t give him enough credit here and the other half think hes better or more important the he is.
picking out one play for or against any of the big 3 in our great run seems to not really work
i’ve almost never been against treading tony but im also not in favor of trading him for crap…thats all
Only Parker really gets slammed for when he doesn’t show up. All have had their moments.
It’s almost like the way the FO and team has treated Tony has carried over to fans. After the texting thing, sure, but he had the same bad treatment prior to that as well.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
+1
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 22, 2011 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Tony isn’t a great free throw shooter but he is solid. He also is always one of the leaders in field goal percentage, while playing point guard! He isn’t a super athlete like Rose or Westbrook and still has never shot below 48% for a season after his 3rd year in the league. His best year was only 2 seasons ago where he put up highs in points per game and assists while shooting over 50% from the field and 78% from the line.
The guy is a great point guard but because he doesn’t drill 3 pointers on dunks on people he gets underrated. He is a solid defender, a solid mid range jump shooter, a great finisher at the rim, a good facilitator, and a pretty durable dude only missing 74 games in a ten year career.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 22, 2011 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
im not trying to pick on him and i don’t think this is the trade that happen if any does…just being a good fg% shooter isn’t the whole story either but i never said he was bad.
as i stated on the first post here i think this was way to harsh on tony…i also think tony has some flaws isn’t untradeable and if your just looking at fg% maybe a little over rated.
he is a big part of the big 3 and a big part of the titles and i completely respect him for that too
i’m kinda in the middle really but don’t agree with anyone just bashing tony as crap or wanting to just trade him for crap.
I wasn’t just looking at field goal percentage but I was pointing out how efficient the guy is at putting the ball in the basket for his physical stature.
Of course he has flaws just like every other player but he rarely gets mentioned as one of the best point guards in the league and some people on this site look at him as being some easily replaced part. the guy is no doubt one of the best point guards in the NBA and that is saying something because the league has pretty much turned into a point guard driven league.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 22, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I was also pointing out that a lot of people get swayed into thinking one player is better than the other due to flash. His game isn’t flashy but it is very efficient. He doesn’t turn the ball over a whole lot and he does a solid job of getting others involved. Which is something in the style of offense our team runs
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 22, 2011 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Parker would likely be loved if he was a non-Spur and people would be like, he’s not the top PG, but he’d help the team.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
replace love with coveted.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
+1
you are right on that note. The grass is always greener on the other side syndrome. If he leaves we are gonna miss the dude
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 22, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
also solid ft shooter?
among pg who took at least 150 att
starting last year
27th of 31
26th of 30
27 of 31
20 of 21
23 of 29
26 of 28
27 of 27
19 of 20
15 of 17
never in the top 25% among pg…i don’t think that is solid
im not trying to trash him im just saying he isn’t as good as alot of people say here either
ever measure of efficiency as you move away form fg% parker drops …efg% true shooting% points per shot. he isn’t bad but he isn’t that great either.
solid job of getting others involved…i say hes ok but nothing special here either.
never in the top 25% among pg…i don’t think that is solid
should read never in the top 75% always in the bottom 25%
The guy shot 76% from the line and that isn’t solid. Not to mention he knows his limitations and doesn’t shot a lot of shots he isn’t good at shooting like the 3 or really long range 2’s. That is called common sense in my book. He isn’t like Westbrook jacking up contested 3’s and turning the ball over. He finishes better than a lot of the bigger point guards in the league. Not to mention everybody knows he is looking to slash to the hoop but can’t stop him from doing so. Not due to his physical ability but just due to being slick with the ball. I mean he is still cat like quick but not like he used to be
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 23, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
for a pg 76% is crap
all my point was if your going to bring up how good his fg% is his bad ft% is a factor too
seemed unlikely we trade parker and it didnt happen so there you go :)
76% is not bad. He isn’t Rondo at the free throw line. lol. The guy shoots right at the league average which is solid. Not everybody is Steve Nash and a lot of those point guards that did shoot a higher %, a decent amount of them didn’t even go to the line more than he did per game. 8 of the guys went to the line more per game than he did.
Augustin 3.6 fta
Hinrich 3.1 fta
Rondo 1.9 fta
Rose 6.9 fta*
B Davis 2.4 fta
Kidd 1.0 fta
Felton 3.4 fta
Stuckey 5.4 fta*
Curry 3.1 fta
Lowry 3.3 fta
Collison 2.9 fta
Mo Williams fta 3.1
Fisher 1.3 fta
Conley 3.3 fta
Bibby 0.7 fta
Chalmers 0.9 fta
Jennings 3.9 fta
Ridnour 1.9 fta
D Williams 6.3 fta* (Utah)
Paul 4.8 fta*
Billups 5.6 fta*
Westbrook 7.7 fta*
J. Nelson 2.1 fta
Holiday 2.5 fta
Nash 3.3 fta
Andre Miller 3.6 fta
PARKER 3.9 fta
Calderon 1.5 fta
Harris 5.7 fta* (N.J.)
Wall 5.7 fta*
Udrih 2.9 fta
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 24, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Starting point's
Just admit you don’t like the dude. At least the Manuwar is honest. Parker is one of the better point guards in the NBA
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 24, 2011 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
My bad
you are honest about your Manu man crush also
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 24, 2011 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
He’s not CP3 or D-Will or D-Rose special, but he’s a much better player now than any of the players one can get in this draft.
I’d rather he be traded for a pair of relatively younger but established players in the league that addresses the teams’ needs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 23, 2011 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I’m not going to read that far into it but lets be real about the thing Tony has been way more consistent than Manu. I love Manu because he is the heart of the team but Tony doesn’t get nearly enough credit. The guy has been a rock solid player who seems to always get the shitty end of the stick for some reason
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 22, 2011 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
point guards are almost a dime a dozen
I have almost no idea what you mean by this given the context but I’m assuming you mean they are rare? Good point guards are not rare, that’s the point. Just because you might see Tony more often does not mean he’s elite or even among the better half. Mike Conley Jr. played him to a near stalemate. Before the series started would you probably would have put Conley far below Parker, but he’s not that far off at all. And in a close series Parker could have swung the series in the Spurs favor if he dominated that match up which he should have if he’s every bit as advertised around here. It’s getting old.
Parker has no clear seperation from any of these guys:
Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Derick Rose, Russel Westbrook, Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, Chauncey Billups, Jameer Nelson, Rajon Rondo, Steph Curry, Devin Harris, John Wall.
You can say he’s better than John Wall or Steve Nash but IF he is it’s by such a little margin that you have to conclude that Parker is nothing SPECIAL. He’s barely in the Top half of point guards in the league. The point guard position is so deep right now that his value is shit. Lets look at the guys I didn’t mention:
Andre Miller, Brandon Jennings, Jrue Holiday, Ty Lawson, Jrue Holiday, Aaron Brooks, Kyle Lowry, Kirk Henrich, Mo Williams, Barron Davis, Mike Conley Jr., Tyreke Evans.
I’d say Parker is better than all those guys but not by a landslide and it wouldn’t be a killer to have any of those guys. Parker does not give the Spurs a huge advantage at the PG position compared to other teams. Yes it’s one of the Spurs better position but it’s also so many other teams better positions. Add in the rookie class of Irving, Walker, Rubio, and Knight and there’s even more depth at PG next year in the league.
Good point guards are not very hard to come by in today’s NBA which is why trading Parker won’t hurt the Spurs so long as they get goods in return. But everyone is acting like his Finals MVP was a tough series and he carried that team. Give me a break. He’s benifited from playing with two great players, Manu and Tim and a great defensive player, Bruce.
Tiago Splitter > Matt Bonner
in the context of the spurs what would we replace him with…i kinda agree the league is full of good pgs but not on this team…having seen the offense when hill and neal are out there together i want the ball in manu or parkers hands all the time but that already cant happen so if we move parker whos the point/handles other then manu.
Andre Miller, Brandon Jennings, Jrue Holiday, Ty Lawson, Jrue Holiday, Aaron Brooks, Kyle Lowry, Kirk Henrich, Mo Williams, Barron Davis, Mike Conley Jr., Tyreke Evans.
most names in this section would seem liek a significant downgrade and we would still have to trade something to get them
i have said this alot but everyone noticed we needed a big other then timmy this year but the next biggest hole/depth issue was ball handeler/passer/point gaurd and hill and neal were bad at this. i think even if we keep parker and maun i want another pass first run the offense back up point guard
we cant get irving or knight in the draft 9even if they would work) and rubio is taken (however good he will be) and walker i don’t think will be as good in the nba (even if we get up high enough to take him). so yeah point guards deep position in the nba but as it stands here we would be one of the few teams without one which would still be an issue
Conley Jr. just showed he isn’t a SIGNIFICANT downgrade. And I’d say Conley is among the lesser players in that group. The point is that the PG position is deep in the NBA and so while Tony Parker is good, he’s not a valuable piece so if the Spurs can get value for him I’m all for it.
Tiago Splitter > Matt Bonner
LOL
All of the dudes you named as being top flight point guards are there teams number one or two option with there third scoring option being no where as talented as Manu. Not to mention Manu and Tony were more like 2A &2B when it came to pecking order. When Manu was nursing wounds 2 years ago Tony put up top flight numbers in points and had his best assist year also. That season the media as i’m sure a boat load of you were all about Tony. You know why because he had the ball in his hand as much as the rest of those guys you stated.
He is way more efficient than Westbrook, can shoot ten times better than Rondo, Devin Harris is washed up, Wall is still unproven, better defender and finisher than Nelson, Kidd, Billups and Nash can’t guard anybody quick anymore but they are 3 great older points on there way out, Curry is still to young and honestly not a point guard. So he is right there with Williams, Paul and Rose. Those three guys got carte blanche to play the way they wanted to as soon as they hit the league so what you saying?
I understand what you are saying that we should be able to get a good point guard some where soon but we already have one of the better points in the league that isn’t overpaid and is still in his prime so why trade him away?
I am going to ask you the same question I asked someone earlier in this thread. Would you be fine if they decided to trade an older player who has a history of injuries by the name of Manu for this same deal reported? I bet the answer is no. LOL. He makes more sense to be traded than Tony due to his age, length of deal and injury history. I love Manu, I actually like him more than Tony but not by much. But I would rather see him leave than a younger Tony Parker
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 23, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Hell no would I trade Manu for the same stuff. Parker is younger yes, but he’s not better. It’s been 4 years and counting that Parker was anticipated to be the leader and best player on the Spurs going into the next season. It has never happened. We’ve seen his best and it’s not that great.
Tiago Splitter > Matt Bonner
LOL
So you are going to discount 2 years ago when he was the best player on the team averaging 22 and almost 7 assist per game while shooting 50% from the field and 78 from the free throw line? You are being biased and it isn’t even funny how bad you are being biased. That was the first year Tony got to actually be the man and he more than produced. Usually when guys take on more of the scoring load there field goal % drops but his actually went up. I bet a shit load of people on this site thought we were doomed because Manu was going to miss a lot of the season. Tony more than picked up the slack helping the team to a 54 win season. How quick people forget.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 23, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Whats even funnier is you would rather keep an aging player who is not going to get better than what he is than keep a player who is in his prime. LOL. You are not a SPUR fan, you are a Manu fan. There is nothing wrong with that because Manu is an awesome player but I rooted for this team way before he got here and I would rather see him go if it made the TEAM better
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 23, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Dime a dozen
means they are easy to come by. My meaning behind saying that is as easy as they are to come by he still stands out among the group of many.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 23, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
look i don’t like parker too much but this is selling him a little short…also its almost a guarantee he will be better then manu and tim the next 2-3 years even if they all downgrade together.
the MVP should ahve been duncans but tony has helped us and i agree with you he has never been better then timmy or manu when we have been good but thats not the next 2-4 years where tim and manu will not be as valuable as tony
spurs should look at trade possibilities but why trade for 50cents on the dollar when the team is still good
I’d make that trade if the numbers matched up
That is the Spurs’ reason for getting up in the morning.
Metaphorically speaking, they can sleep when they are dead, and they aren’t dead yet.
What kind of a point guard can the Spurs get with the 7 pick?
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
a shitty one compared to parker
"Kevin Garnett once described defending Tim Duncan as "trying to guard a tree"
T
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jun 22, 2011 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions
yep
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Jun 22, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I have an uneasy feeling about this. The last time I was excited about a big time trade the Spurs made, they struggled the entire next season. I still think they should explore Georgie’s market first.
I am hoping that they really are looking at trade possibilities involving George Hill and that this news about Parker being on the trading block is merely a smokescreen.
(",)
by day_late_friend on Jun 22, 2011 6:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, the only problem with Hill is for a big deal to happen, you have to find a team willing to take on a bigger contract to deliver Hill like an RJ or Bonner contract. Otherwise, you won’t get much back unless its just in draft picks.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Really?
Agreed, Parkers career trajectory has been falling off the past few seasons, but 7th and Casspi??? THAT’S IT? Thats all they can get?
I like it. Don’t get me wrong I like TP and want him to retire a Spur but, you have to explore your options while you still have options. I like it. The FO is being agressive. The FO wants to contend for Chips now and after Tim and Manu walk off into the sunset.
If they are in fact trying to trade Parker they are pretty much conceding any chance of a ’chip now. Without Tony there is not chance for a ’chip in many years.
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
Trading TP is not the end of the Spurs. IMO the FO is thinking about what the Bulls did this year on pure defense. FO is saying we need to get younger to play good D while still haveing Manu and Tim. I was saying this year when we were winning all the games in the reg. season that we are a very talented team. We can still win without TP. We need a big and there is no getting around that no matter what kind of spin you try to put on it. The FO IMO is just trying to make it happen instead of sitting around twiddeling thier thumbs.
However you look at it the chances of a title in the next two years go down dramatically with any TP trade. Unless something crazy happens.
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
by LasEspuelas on Jun 22, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
This is the same TP that got out played by Speedy Claxton. TP is not CP3, he is a very good PG not great. I can understand why the FO is considering this trade. This season forced the FO hand. Over sixty wins and out in the first round. That was the writing on the wall. This team as currently constructed is not going to get it done.
TP was much younger and did not have any jump shot whatsoever back then. Heck, that was pre-Chip.
The team’s problems are less to do with Parker and more to do with the rest of the team, like a real backup to Parker.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
I don’t want to trade TP, but I have faith in our FO. I understand why this deal might happen. You know I would much rather have the FO trade Blair with Hill/RJ/Dice/ or Bonner. From what I hear they might still trade Hill for a later lottery pick.
Which makes sense to move Hill to get some more balance on the depth side. I’m fine with trading Parker, but the deal in question sounds horrid. I expected the Spurs would look to move Hill as he’s in his last year and clearly will not be a PG. Hill’s almost like a better version of Antonio Daniels, but less explosive.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
I’d almost say he’s more explosive and a much better shooter than AD ever was…but the similarities are definitely there.
Hill is quicker and lankier, but Daniels was definitely a bigger leaper who’d be more likely to go up for a dunk than a layup. That doesn’t make him better, but with Daniels, you felt he was going to slam it down when he left the ground. With Hill, I expect a nice layup, most of the time.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
How good Parker is can be debated but I am very confident that you cannot trade Parker today and be better TODAY given all the other variables including his salary, the players available through the draft, the free agent situation, etc… The FO might be thinking of the future if they are considering this but they would be effectively closing the Duncan Window.
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
They might as well move Manu then since they can get good trade value for him to be honest. Obviously, im looking at it from numbers and not importance elsewhere. If you close the window, there’s no point in not allowing Manu a chance to win elsewhere then.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Agreed. And all that would amount to a huge broken heart for LasEspuelas : (
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
I’d feel most bad for Duncan out of anyone. Although it’ll suck as a fan.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
It is, if this deal went through. Moving Parker and getting back what is possibly projected is basically slamming the door.
They would be better of using Hill/Blair if they want to continue to win.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
I understand
But would you like it if they could get the same deal for a much older Manu? think about that and be honest with your answer.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 22, 2011 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
Yeah you would make a bad GM. The sad thing is if the Spurs were shopping Manu for the same things listed people on this site would be sending virus’s to Yahoo and any site who reported it. People are super biased when it comes to him and are super critical when it comes to Tony
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 22, 2011 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Manu & Timmy
can’t do any wrong. I will admit I do feel this way about Timmy because I was and still am a Wake Forrest fan before he even showed up. Not to mention he has been more important than any other player not named David Robinson to this Spurs franchise. But even i will begrudgingly put blame on Timmy when he screws up. which is very rare in my eyes. LOL
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 22, 2011 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
well also people this year saying timmy hasn’t slipped and hes still one of the top pf/c in the league…i certainly think hes important and certainly love timmy but what? his AS selection looked bad at the time and was really only justifiable by our record. the def numbers clearly indicate we were better with him on the floor but to say he is still a top pf/c is living in the past.
and he looked pretty bad in the playoffs too…there is no shame in saying he cant be the man anymore everyone gets old and saying some one is better now isn’t like saying they are better all time or anything :P
Tony
should’ve been our 2nd All star instead of Timmy this year. I think the team deserved 2 all stars and Timmy just got the spot because they needed another big guy for the roster. Tim is still decent on defense but offensively he isn’t the same.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 22, 2011 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
well i honestly think manu is or at least was better then tony…but on both of them im loyal and i think the team is too…i think its really unlikely any to0ny trade happens
I love both
But Tony has been way more consistent in the NBA. Manu is the man and he does amazing stuff but he also does a lot of bone headed things. I know people are gonna want to kill me for saying that but it is true. You know what you are going to get with Tony 99% of the time and maybe that is why he doesn’t get as much love because he isn’t as flashy or unpredictable as Manu.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 22, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Pau is rumored to be on the market as well…. 1 4 1
"Everybody thought he was going to be gone forever, including me, and the foie gras and truffle treatment worked really well." Pop on Tony's Injury 3/4/11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
Yep, the Buss son loves Bynum so Gasol is the odd man out.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Buss's son is an idiot.
He’s only running the show because of daddy
Proud member of Club FTR. falconPUNCH! for president!
Yep. Lakers fans pretty much hate the Buss son and think the daughter should take over instead of him.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Of course the woman would do a better job than the man. ;)
I do not want people to be agreeable, as it saves me the trouble of liking them. - Jane Austen
In this case, absolutely. She’s done a good job with the Lakers from the stuff she runs from everything I’ve seen. She’s probably hire the right people to make the right moves where she needs help.
There’s a good interview with her and Phil from slightly after their playoff exit on Fox Sports I believe.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Forget Casspi and give us either Cousins or Thornton, and I’d feel a little better about it. Maybe we throw in a player and do a combo deal? I dunno…just spitballing here.
I don’t think Tony is the right pg for them, then. :)
by Ed (dfjmed) on Jun 22, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Thompson is intriguing. Talented player but very inconsistent. Those that complaint that Hill is inconsistent would want to get rid of Thompson the first chance they got!
Thompson
He actually became much more consistent in the second half of last season and stopped being such a feast or famine style of player.
In most polarizing arguments, the truth is found somewhere in the middle.
Follow me on Twitter
Author of Inside-Out Game
TP
I have always said we should trade TP. In the NBA today you have to have a point guard that can shoot lights out. TP is a good PG but his game is just not aging well.
"A job well done is better than a job well said."
by I bleed Red and Black on Jun 22, 2011 8:43 AM CDT reply actions
The problem with this idea is that there’s nobody to take at the #7 pick worth the risk of this trade. If you trade Parker you have to get VALUE in return, you can’t just get potential. Getting potential is always nice when it pays off, but smart GM’s don’t trade value for potential unless the potential is so much higher than the value that it’s worth it. See Divac for Kobe. Unless there’s a player that I’ve never heard of that’s going to be at the #7 pick, this thing never happens.
I would not trade Parker for the #1 pick in this draft.
This draft class is very weak, and we are about to trade our superstar pq for a bag a chips.
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
+1… unless you want to get rid of Tony
by indiancharlie on Jun 22, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
You’re right – this is not the year to try to trade up, unless you’re blowing it up. The sure-fire talent in this draft is suspect. It would make more sense to try to get multiple picks to try to restock with younger talent that isn’t going to kill you capwise. Or maybe the Spurs just really want to get rid of RJ. ;)
I do not want people to be agreeable, as it saves me the trouble of liking them. - Jane Austen
keep in mind its also just a story…the next time pop or rc tell the press what they want or what they are thinking before hand will be the first. “the spurs talked to teams in the lottery”…they are donig their job of course they did but the press needs a story and its fun and interesting g to hear/read about what could be happening. just a rumor and it never happens for Omri Casspi and 7…unless parker really is like get me out of here.
If this trade were made, it doesn’t seem it would necessarily be their final trade. If they got Casspi, I’d think that would mean that they’d also see what they could get for RJ, which could be how they’d cover the PG position vs. trying to draft one. The trade doesn’t look like getting back much value yet, but it would depend on who the Spurs were thinking they might get at the #7 pick. Or it could be the Spurs would trade their own pick and the 7 pick for an even better pick, perhaps to Cleveland for the #4 where they could pick Kanter or Vesely.
The most recent ESPN mock draft has Kanter going at #7… maybe the front office thinks he’ll be there, or maybe the trade will be contingent on a certain player being available, that’s why they give the team thats up a few min before they pick, to work out a trade like that
by RamblingSpur on Jun 22, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
There are stories abounding, but they all cite the one source, Woj. We all need to chill out a little bit at this point. Talk is talk.
Regardless, we won’t have much longer to wait. About 36 hours…
All these GIFs are breaking my browser.
by quincyscott on Jun 22, 2011 9:10 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Team needs
Not saying this is a value for value trade, but if we got Singleton with the 7 pick, we would have our perimeter defender that has the versatility to cover Kobe, Dirk, Durant etc.
I could see Pop trading offense for defense.
"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?" - Vince Lombardi
I think the Spurs are doing this to mess with everyone at PtR. There’s no real good reason to make this trade, except to watch Spurs fans freak out.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
This has smokescreen/CIA Pop written all over it.
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 22, 2011 9:53 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I’m just excited to see where this goes. I still trust the front office, and can cope with losing Tony for the right pieces. I’ll also have no problem with passing up deals like this.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jun 22, 2011 9:56 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
If we really have to shop Tony for a lottery pick in a lousy draft, why not aim higher? The T-Pups are s’posedly looking for vets, and when has KAAAAAHHHNNN ever been able to turn down a poing guard? I wouldn’t mind getting Derrick Williams on board, if he came with next years first-rounder and/or Ricky Rubio, who could back up George or we could trade before the hype fizzles out. If the Pups thought that was too steep, we could just keep our former Finals MVP with 3 championship rings and we’d be OK.
"I know everthang they is to know about the shrimpin bidness."
What if...
The Spurs trade Parker for the #7 pick and Omri Casspi, then retain Casspi and send off the 7th pick along with RJ to Cleveland for their 4th pick? Then that would give the Spurs an opportunity for an even better player: Brandon Knight, Kanter, Vesely, etc.
"He has an innate ability of putting the damn ball in the hole." - Pop on Ginobili
Too steep- Tony Parker and Richard Jefferson for Omri Casspi and the #4? That’s a tough deal even in a good draft.
"I know everthang they is to know about the shrimpin bidness."
There’s no win in just getting rid of a player if you are losing Parker and getting shit back.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
lol
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 23, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I’d think that the 7 and the 29 might do it to move up the few spots to 4. Maybe try and then trade RJ to Denver for Felton, who would be a pretty good PG to replace Tony. Casspi replaces RJ, plus the Spurs wind up with a lottery pick; perhaps using it on Kanter.
Denver has Chandler and Gallo. They’d probably prefer to pay Chandler over RJ, although RJ is a sure price.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
It would likely be a more involved trade than just RJ for Felton straight up, like perhaps tossing in Blair or Hill. Problem with Hill if they’ve already traded Parker is they’d have to come up with a backup P/G still. Denver is a bit hard to figure out at the moment, but if they consider both Chandler and Gallo SF’s that seems like one to many young one. Chandler being a restricted free agent they might deal him off in a sign and trade. Felton doesn’t really seem to be an essential part of their plans as Ty Lawson seems their preference. It seems that they have only 11 players listed on their roster, with four of those having some degree of free agency. After their trades last season, I’m surprised that they have only one draft pick and that is #22. Seems they’d be wanting to make a trade where they’d get multiple players for one.
I don’t think this trade is as bad as everyone here is making it out to be. I’ve NEVER been part of the trade TP crowd, however, I’m always fine with trading guards for bigs, and ideally that’s who we’d take with the 7th pick, a big to pair with Duncan. Doesn’t anyone remember how long we’ve been trying to replace David Robinson?
I am not anti-tony by any means, but, PGs are the easiest talent to acquire in this league. When tony first came around he was doing things most other PGs weren’t, now the league is crawling with tiny guys like this who can ball. Just look at what Dallas was able to get away with with JJ Barea. Seriously, Tony’s talents are sadly the most replaceable of our high value assets. I would miss him if he left big time, but I like Casspi and he could very well be an all star on our team in year or two
FFFFFFFUUUUUUUU
^Mavs-speak for a Mavs-style move.
I know that Casspi was on of the Spurs primary scouting targets for many many years before he ended up with the Kings, but trading Tony for him and the 7th pick in a weak draft is madness. If it also includes Sacto’s 2012(unprotected) first-rounder, you might actually get some value out of it, but you’re throwing away what could be Duncan’s last year.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
We would also get about 10mil in cap relief cause SAC is below the cap which we could actually get a free agent with. I trust the front office to get us good value if the trade needs to be tweaked, or maybe they are more confident about who will be on the board at #7 than we are.
by RamblingSpur on Jun 22, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
OK, if we do unload that salary, PLUS Timmy restructures his deal to take half of what he’s scheduled to make next year, we could conceivably have some decent cap room. But that’s an awfully big risk, when no new CBA has been agreed to.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
Also McDysses’ contract can be used to generate about 5 mil in cap room with some fancy trading and the cozy retirement rules of the current CBA
by RamblingSpur on Jun 22, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Also, the new CBA will likely bring a lower cap but it seems ridiculous for it to happen right away and not be something that’s phased in over at least 3 years, otherwise all the good teams in the league would be paralyzed for even longer and I don’t think Stern would do that to LA and MIA
by RamblingSpur on Jun 22, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
The 10mil in cap space might result in 0, depending on what happens with the new CBA. However, if the next season is lost, it does make sense to start the rebuilding process now. I just hate to see Timmeh’s last year being meh.
I do not want people to be agreeable, as it saves me the trouble of liking them. - Jane Austen
The latest figures I saw from the negotiations yesterday was for a $62M cap. This trade, plus a restructured deal for Timmeh could give us something like $10-12M in space. But most of the good free agents out there are restricted, so it’s still a huge risk. And we’d still need either a PG or bi man, depending what we do with the pick.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
have they ruled out for sure a one time player amnesty (like the one Finley got)? If the new CBA will let teams to this then we can ditch RJ and pick up a Finley like ring-cruiser afterwards too.
by RamblingSpur on Jun 22, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
True. And if we have Casspi, he could be a backup and the cap space could land Battier as a starter. That makes RJ completely expendable We’d still need to sign a defensive 4/5 though.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
Im just saying, knowing everything I know about the Spurs front office tells me that they must know more than we do if they were to make this trade, either on the salary/free agent end (like they already know Timmy will restructure, or some aspects of the new CBA) or on the draft end (like that Kanter will be available at 7).
by RamblingSpur on Jun 22, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
This trade is likely to happen.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6cn8tjx
Portland gets their wanted young point guard
San Antonio gets Caspi, Great shooter Babbit, and the number 7 pick maybe a Kemba Walker
Sacramento gets a true center Dalambert is leaving, Andre, and Fernandez
So many things wrong with this
But just for starters, the Kings wouldn’t want any of those players except a healthy Oden. And if Oden is healthy the Blazer wouldn’t trade him. This trade is likely to happen in your BBF’s dreams. But nowhere else.
It comes down to reality
And it's fine with me 'cause I've let it slide
by SavageBeast on Jun 22, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3f8szcd
I would say this is more likely with the 7th and 19th pick coming to SA.
Gives us decent value, 2 serviceable bigs, a decent SF.
Kings give up a little to get their star PG, and a backup center to replace the retiring Dalembert
Cats get better value in RJ than they would with the 19th pick, and Blair for TTis a push talent wise.
STEIN_LINE_HQSan Antonio, as I hear it, wants to attach Richard Jefferson to any Tony Parker deal. Can’t see that appealing to Raps. Or Kings.
Here’s Ziller (who happens to be a Kings fan) on the issue.
I would expect the Kings to want to send Beno our way if RJ’s inclusion is a sticking point, since they don’t want so much of their team salary tied up at the PG position.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
I’d be cool with them sending Beno back as he is at worst a solid backup PG
That is the Spurs’ reason for getting up in the morning.
Metaphorically speaking, they can sleep when they are dead, and they aren’t dead yet.
Fucking RJ, is going to cost us our point guard.
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
Not really. Spurs want to move Parker to improve and RJ for other reasons if possible. however, they could still lump a Hill/Blair deal with RJ in it for something else. The deals can be exclusive from one another.
It’s easier to do it in one shot, but that doesn’t mean it needs to.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
On the contrary, nobody is ever going to take RJ. So Tony is probably sticking.
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
Depends on what you throw in the deal. If you move a Hill or Blair, you need a bigger contract to move over if you want to bring back a contract. This is where an RJ/Dyess/Bonner contract comes in. RJ would net you the biggest return. You’d probably do a draft pick as well depending on what you are chasing. RJ’s contract may slightly be overpaid, but it is still manageable.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Honestly, George Hill and RJ should be enough to get up into the 9-10 range
While complacency costs, perseverance pays
THIS
Hill and Blair should be the players to be traded to get rid of RJ’s contract.
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
T
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Problem is that the teams in that range don’t have a lot that the Spurs would want
While complacency costs, perseverance pays
That’s pretty much why RJ is still on the Spurs, but honestly, keeping him isn’t a bad thing. Building the team to be a little more versatile to use his skill set is a more important issue to address to be honest.
They could also lump those guys with a smaller contract like Bonner if they could get a deal that works. The problem is as you say, the other teams don’t always have what the Spurs want.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
The Spurs are now shopping Hill
NBA sources say San Antonio has offered George Hill to Milwaukee (#10), Golden State (#11) and Utah (#12) in exchange for their pick.
http://twitter.com/#!/DraftExpress/status/83613173210550272
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
This is starting to sound ridiculous… Every 5 minutes there is a flurry of rumors about the Spurs trading someone.
I wonder if Dallas had to go through this when they lost in the first round.
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on Jun 22, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Hill makes sense though. He’s in the final year of his contract and Spurs are loaded at the 2 position.
Neal is a better from the bench scorer and Hill can’t be overpaid if he’s coming off the bench. You also have Anderson who likely will fit better as a 2, but is bigger and Butler who might pan out making you want to utilize Anderson at the 2.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Not too surprising, he is contrary to what you might see elsewhere their best trade chip
While complacency costs, perseverance pays
He’s the best fit to be moved and packaged with another contract. His contract is the most flexible and talent most appealing. I’d bet Blair is probably next, but Spurs up front have much less depth.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Blair’s knees, height, and failing in the play-offs drive his stock way down. Splitter’s stock is much higher IMO.
While complacency costs, perseverance pays
Oh, I’d bet on Splitter being in demand. Blair’s stock is definitely down, but he’s a cheap contract and still has done well during the season. With cheaper contracts, comes more appeal. I’m not saying him alone with net a great player, but it depends on the deal and players involved.
For instance, Dyess + Blair would likely get a team looking to shed salary and get some nice young talent back. Bucks would be an example of that as they made some weird moves mixed in with their good moves.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
I like this a lot more than the TP rumors.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
That’s epic. That’s a game changer!
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
http://www.poundingtherock.com/2011/6/22/2237554/buford-spurs-not-shopping-parker
While complacency costs, perseverance pays
Tim Varner said something interesting (in the comments of this 48moh story)
There is also the possibility of the Spurs moving into, say, Toronto’s spot and then flipping the 5 and 29 with Minnesota at 2.
Now THAT actually makes a little sense. Derrick Williams is fricking awesome.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
I have heard the rockets are interested in the 2 pick.
by cartoonspurs on Jun 22, 2011 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Just a thought. Are the Spurs trying to clear cap space to take a run at Dwight Howard? Or do they strictly just want the draft picks?
I think they really see a player they like in the draft. As for cap it might be for the futre.
by cartoonspurs on Jun 22, 2011 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
BREAKING: Spurs' R.C. Buford comments on Parker trade rumors (pic below)
“We are not shopping anyone; especially our All-Star, Finals MVP point guard,” Buford announced during the press conference, seated alongside long-time Spurs’ head coach, Gregg Popovich.
by transgojobot on Jun 22, 2011 4:47 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
I was listening to the radio coming home (in Ohio) and they had a draft expert from a major basketball blog. He said the latest trade possibility was Casspi, Francisco Garcia, plus the 7 pick for Parker.
draft class is not weak
the spurs need an athletic big that can rebound at a high level and if they can dump parkers contract and get sacs 7th pick omri cassipi/jason thompson i say its worth the deal
tristan thompson is a beast on the boards and has a 7’1 wingspan
george hill/parker are interchangable at this pt and either can lead the spurs to the playoffs
the spurs are gonna have to part with hill or parker b/c they have trade value however i would like the spurs to pick up a backup pt guard late in the draft maybe nolan smith
nolan has great mid-range game and is quick enough to drive to the hole
he led the blue devils to a title and in the spurs system can be a very effective player
i realize the stigma with duke players in the nba but with irving nolan and singler in this years draft i think that stigma will be forgotten in the near future
sacs 7th pick omri cassipi/jason thompson
this looks closer to a good deal…i didn’t hear they were offering both and the 7th pick
george hill/parker are interchangable at this pt and either can lead the spurs to the playoffs
this isnt what i saw…when hill was out there as the main ball handler (no manu or tony) the offense looked really stagnate most of the time and flat out bad alot
No way
With as great as the Spurs FO has been over the last ten years, I don’t see them doing a stupid move like this. Give me a break? Trade an NBA All Star, Finals MVP, and your team’s leading scorer at times for a guy who is at best a quality sixth man? This is the stupidest trade rumor I’ve heard in a long time.
Don't be surprised
I don’t like this idea but I understand why the team would trade Tony. he is by far the best trade asset we have and the team needs to start rebuilding
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 23, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Chad Ford: 2 former Spurs Beno and Stephen Jax along with Shaun Livingston and the 19th pick go to Milwaukee. Charlotte gets the #7 pick and Corey Maggette and the Kings get John Salmons and the 10th pick
Guess TP isnt going to sac
Guess not
yew still don’t know if he is going to get traded though.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 23, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
NBA Playoffs Content Module
Related FanPosts on Pounding The Rock
Related FanShots on Pounding The Rock
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
FanShots
Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.
Recommended FanShots
Recent FanShots
Featured Stories
In Association With
Ball Don't Lie - NBA - Yahoo! Sport
- Shaquille O’Neal is in a Chinese beer commercial, too (VIDEO)
- ‘Deep Thoughts’ and Cheap Thoughts: San Antonio Spurs vs. Oklahoma City Thunder
- C-a-C: This is probably as close to LeBron James working with John Waters as we’ll ever get
- Dwyane Wade’s hot pink pants: The kind of thing you can get away with when you drop 41
- Lamar Odom to New York? Dwight Howard on the move? For now, it’s all talk
