Trades and Free Agents
by jddl on May 3, 2011 10:56 AM CDT
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PrintI think that the Spurs should work on getting a center for the team. If it were possible I would try to get Dwight Howard. His contract is up in 2012. If he could come over that would be great. Also if there is no chance of getting him how about DeAndre Jordan from the Clippers and Shannon Brown from the Lakers or Tayshaun Prince from the Pistons. Then work on developing Splitter by working on his post game. He needs to watch videos of Moses Malone.
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As far as draft picks, we essentially already “drafted” (read: signed) a solid SF in DeSean Butler, who was drafted by miami this year and never played due to injury. Im not sure what pick we’ll have but assuming we pick near the end of the 1st round we might be able to steal or make a move for Chris Singleton <—- this is the lock-down defender we’ve needed ever since Bruce left. It’ll take some time and work to make him as effective as Bowen was, but he’s already got a much better NBA body and has the size to legit post up on offense as either a 3 or 4. This year also might our best opportunity to move up to the top of the draft and take a player like Jonas Valanciunas to start with Duncan and be his apprentice. These are the only two draftees who are on my radar right now for the spurs, but obviously we’d have to give up something substantial for the pick that would get us Valanciunas, while Singleton is very realistic as he’s currently projected at #19 by draft express – it wouldn’t take much to move us up ~10 spots, probably just an extra future 2nd rd pick.
POST FAIL: that was the end of my post it was supposed to be prefaced by:
The new CBA will probably significantly restrict our ability to sign a free agent beyond the MLE, which we also might not get. I still think McD comes back, especially in a shortened season. But if he doesn’t, his contract is probably our most valuable asset because we can fully guarantee about 5.5mil knowing that McD will retire as soon as he’s traded.
Other than that, we don’t have much other teams want in the way of a trade. Itd be nice to get rid of RJ, but I don’t know what if anything we can get for him. Maybe if we paired it with McD’s contract we could get something decent. If we trade for anything, it needs to be more size.
by RamblingSpur on May 3, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
The only way I see us moving up enough to get Singleton is by trading Dice’s expiring for a fully guaranteed contract to a team desperate for cap room. Might even have to throw in Blair.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
BTW, I still have a hoops crush on Ty Thomas, so if there were any way to pry him away from Charlotte, I’d be for it.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
Me too… something about him makes me want the Spurs to coach him right
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on May 3, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with both of you.
Free Steve Novak
by SpursfanSteve on May 3, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Especially since, at the beginning of this year (I think), he actually kind of looked like he had his head on straight. I think at worst he’s a slightly better Yawn, and at best a slightly worse Josh Smith.
Free Steve Novak
by SpursfanSteve on May 3, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Ty seemed to be very obtainable, I don’t remember what he was got for, I just remember it wasn’t much. I guess the FO didn’t want him.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
Chicago salary-sumped him a couple years ago, when the Spurs were already well into lux-tax territory.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
And this year couldn’t sign anyone unless they used the MLE which mostly went to Splitter
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on May 3, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Throw in draft pick or two to make the following appealing to the Bobcats…
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3mnwpkt
Duncan / Tiago / DIOP
TYRUS / Blair / Bonner
S.JAXX / D. Green / D Butler
Manu / Neal / J.Anderson
AUGUSTINE / G.Hill
why trade Tony? He’s our best player.
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
IMO yes. Manu started great but faded down the stretch, and he was taking too many 3s. Right now Tony is the only big 3 still in his prime.
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
I agree that Manu faded down the stretch and shot too many 3’s and yes Tony is the youngest and closest to his prime but…. when has Tony hit a meaningful shot. He sucked butt in the playoffs and I’m ready to see a traditional pass first pg that can create for others. Yes it’s nice to have tony’s high fg% in the paint but he has too many turn overs and his speed is strating to fail him. Did you watch Conley blow past him, a lot of the younger pg’s are catching/passing Tony in the speed department. I’d take Manu over Tony any day and I hate to say it but I’m ready for us to get rid of Tony and try a new formula.
That is the Spurs’ reason for getting up in the morning.
Metaphorically speaking, they can sleep when they are dead, and they aren’t dead yet.
uh...
Did you not watch the overtime game that TONY dominated? Or that one year he dragged RoMaJu and the rest of the Spurs to the playoffs single handedly when Manu and Tim were hurt?
Free Steve Novak
by SpursfanSteve on May 5, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I am one of the resident Parker-Defenders here, but it’s hard to justify his performance this post-season. He was the only one of the big three in a position to dominate. Duncan is old and no longer capable of dominating, and Manu was playing with half a right arm. (He still singlehandedly won two games)
Parker certainly turned up the juice in game 5, he had 3 jumpers in the OT period, and he also played well in the deciding game, but he looked very poor in the four other games.
If he had just played good or OK in those games, the Spurs win the series. Instead, he looked tentative, shot a horrendous percentage from his spots, didn’t make it into the paint very frequently, made alot of careless turnovers during his forays into 3 different defenders, and didn’t do a great job of guarding Conley, electing to take the easy way out and go under Conley’s screen 99% of the time.
I hate to say these things but they were pretty plain to see.
I am in no way pinning the loss on Parker, but he didn’t exactly help his legacy this season.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
electing to take the easy way out and go under Conley’s screen 99% of the time.
Actually that was the Spurs game plan, and that was the plan all year long making teams beat us with mid-range shots. Props to Hollins to scouting that and have his players ready.
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
like sf87 said, going under the screens was the game plan. We’ve done it against almost every PG we’ve played against this year, and it’s not just when Tony is guarding them. When it comes to PG’s, it’s been our strategy to give them jumpshots instead of a path to the lane.
And if you’re going to knock Tony for turnovers, you’ve got to mention Manu as well, and also Tim.
Without Parker, we don’t have much of a future. While it’s true that you can’t win a championship without a dominant big, right now we are in the era of the elite pg’s. And while Tony may not be Chris Paul or Steve Nash, he’s not far behind them. Tony can’t win a championship by himself, but he’s an excellent “second best player” to have on your team- much like Sean Elliott was an excellent “third best”. Tony can keep is in the playoff hunt alone after Tim and Manu retire. There isn’t anyone else on our roster who can do that and there’s no one we can realistically get that can also do that.
We need to focus on building around Tony instead of trying to move him.
Free Steve Novak
by SpursfanSteve on May 5, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I am not really pining to trade Parker, but he is the most tradable of the three.
Manu is a better player IMO, his contract renders him untradeable, and I dont think the FO would ever seriously consider trading him anyway. Duncan might retire if there is a lockout, they would never trade him anyway.
Parker is the most tradeable of the big three.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
Right, I agree with him being the most tradeable, I just disagree that a trade involving any of the three should happen. We won’t get what we need in a trade for any of them.
And, at this point, I think Tony is as good as Manu. Manu makes more outstanding plays, but as far as consistency is concerned, I think Tony is more reliable game in and game out.
Free Steve Novak
by SpursfanSteve on May 5, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
The Grizz defensive game plan was focused on Tony. Expecting him to consistently beat a defense which has been geared towards stopping him is not fair to Tony, IMO.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
I am not ready to let Parker off the hook because the Grizz had the paint shut off. There are still the floaters and open shots he missed, along with the killer turnovers.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
Manu missed a ton of shots too and took a lot of ill advised 3s. Duncan just gave us the 12 points and 10 rebounds he gave us the entire season, he was outplayed by Marc Gasol and his turnovers killed us in game 6. RJ completely vanished for the last 3 games of the series. Neal outside of his big shot in game 5 missed most of his 3s and a lot of them were wide open. Hill was inconsistent the entire series, made a lot of turnovers too. Bonner missed his 3s too. Dice loss his cool and miss some shots. Pop was out-coached.
You can say the only spur who didn’t disappoint was Tiago because we pretty much didnt expect him even to play in the series.
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
Also the times Parker was able to get into the paint he was getting hammered by the Memphis Bigs. Like a lot of people have already said, the Memphis D was designed to stop Parker.
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
Overtime is not a game it’s 5 minutes. He sucked the rest of the game. Had he shown up prior to overtime we would not have needed the miracle shots by neal and ginobili. Ian Mahinmi can look impressive for 5 minutes. Not saying Tony is that bad but if the best you can do is list that overtime period I am not impressed.
That is the Spurs’ reason for getting up in the morning.
Metaphorically speaking, they can sleep when they are dead, and they aren’t dead yet.
Or that one year he dragged RoMaJu and the rest of the Spurs to the playoffs single handedly when Manu and Tim were hurt?
that was a whole season of excellence, and it wasn’t too long ago.
Plus, like a couple others have said: Memphis’ defense was geared specifically towards stopping dribble penetration. That’s Tony’s bread and butter. Yes, for a couple games his mid range jumper was off, but THAT is the aberration from the norm, not the other way around. Tony was killer this season. This was one “bad” series- a series that would have been even worse if it had been someone other than Parker running things. Hill couldn’t do it, a “veteran backup” couldn’t do it. If you want to argue that we should trade Tony for Chris Paul or someone else like that- it’s an acceptable (though COMPLETELY unrealistic) argument.
Your argument that “Tony’s speed is failing him” is, simply, inaccurate. Tony blew past Conley as many times as Conley got by him- the difference was that Tony ran straight into a defense clogging the paint, while Conley ran into a defense that largely stayed home on their own men. Memphis has a lot of length- from their wings up to their bigs, and that is something the Spurs offense simply couldn’t match. You really are underestimating how good Memphis defense is. They were #1 in the league at creating turnovers (averaged almost 16 per 100 possessions, and only Portland, a team with similar length advantages, was close to them statistically)
If you’re grounded in realism, though, you realize that Tony Parker is one of the best 5 or 6 point guards in the league, and barring major injury, it’s likely that will continue. There are no guards in this draft that will have a better career than Tony Parker-and the same goes for the list of likely free agents/trade targets.
Unless you want to completely gut the team to get a super duperstar (like, say, NY did for Melo), then holding on to Tony and his reasonable contract and building around him is the best route to go. And I’d argue that’s a better route than what NY did for Melo.
Free Steve Novak
by SpursfanSteve on May 5, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed that season he did carry the spurs and was stellar. By far the best player on our team that year. I agree that Memphis played great defense and was geared to stop the dribble penetration. I don’t agree that this was just one bad series. He started the season super hot after the whole cheating thing and I thought that he was in line for another year like last year when he carried us. That did not pan out. I had him on my fantasy team so I paid attention to the stats every night. Too many turnovers and too few assists. He’s good but he’s also the only one of the big three we could move. Just my opinion we should do that while we could get something in exchange for him. As you said “if your grounded in realism” he ain’t carrying us to a championship. That being said my personal opinion is ship him out while we can get something in return. Obviously your on the other side of that opinion and that’s cool we are all spurs fans. I’ll still cheer for him if he stays and I’d even cheer for him if we shipped him out. He’s good but I’m ready for a change
That is the Spurs’ reason for getting up in the morning.
Metaphorically speaking, they can sleep when they are dead, and they aren’t dead yet.
But what are you expecting in return? There is not a dominant big out there we can get. There is not another dominant point guard we can get.
Tony averaged like two tenths of a turnover more per game than Manu, but he had a lower turnover rate than point guards like Steve Nash, Rajon Rondo, Russell Westbrook, and Deron Williams. Ironically enough, the point guard rated right above Tony in this regard was Mike Conley, and the two of them were just behind Chris Paul (although Tony’s usage rate was higher than both of them).
As far as assists- Spurs PG’s have never averaged a high number of assists under Pop. In his 4 years playing under Pop, Avery averaged an assist total (a whopping 1 more per game) higher than Tony’s average this year twice.
If you don’t think Tony would be capable of putting up higher assist numbers if he was in a system where all he did was throw lobs and run in transition, you’re crazy.
In short, it ain’t worth it. Once Manu and Tim’s contract’s expire, we’ll have some flexibility regardless of the new CBA. Until then, we’re still competitive- every team was vulnerable in some way this year. The Grizz could exploit ours. We were capable of exploiting other teams. Call me crazy optimistic, but I think with a different playoff draw, it’s possible we’re in the second round with a good chance of moving forward. I know that’s a crazy “what if” type of hypothetical, but I’d rather be that kind of competitive than lottery bound. Even after Manu and Tim retire, as the team is currently constructed Tony would be able to keep us in the playoffs. We aren’t far from getting over the hump.
Free Steve Novak
by SpursfanSteve on May 5, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree that with a different playoff draw we could have gone deeper this year. I also agree it would be tough to trade Tony and expect to get equal value in return. I am not sure what we could get back I would just hope the FO looks into it. Ideally I would like to get some more youth with the hope of them developing into a player of equal or greater value in the future.
That is the Spurs’ reason for getting up in the morning.
Metaphorically speaking, they can sleep when they are dead, and they aren’t dead yet.
Spurs probably would have been in the 2nd round if they faced anyone but the Grizz.. OKC I’m up in the air about, but their low post offense isn’t the same as Grizz.
To be honest, I think they would win any first round matchup that isn’t Grizz. Perhaps Dallas, but McDyess on him is much easier than McDyess on Randolph due to the way he plays.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Parker didn’t play as bad as people said. The only bad thing about Parker in these play was his turnovers, but guess what Manu and even Duncan had their good share of stupid turnovers as well. Memphis was clogging the lane against us and our “great” shooters were not making shots there was nothing Parker could do against that, and yet he still averaged 20 ppg for the series. Without Parker this team would have been swept, badly.
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
lets trade Parker for Jose Calderon, because next with him on the line up Duncan will average 22-12 and Manu will average 25-5-6.
TBH the only players I would trade Parker for is : Kobe, Wade, Lebron, Rose, Howard, D.Williams, Dirk and maybe Randolph. So do it RC
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
Let us agree to disagree on the quality of Tony’s play for the 4 other games. While the paint may have been packed, he hit a bad percentage of his teardrops, was tentative with his midrange J, missed all of his midrange Js when he did decide to take them, made plenty of stupid turnovers and didn’t play stellar defense.
Again, the loss is not on him, but he could have done more. Alot more.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
i like the singleton/thomas talk for sure. either one of those guys would be a good fit for our formula, hard to get them, but we can still dream about it until after the playoffs hen reality sets in…….
i also posted on another thread about the possibility of getting greg oden. i think he will be a FA at seasons end – but will admit that i havent looked it up and am not sure of that. but if so, he could be a good defensive/rebounding big at a potentially reasonable price. he’ll have to stay healthy eventually…..right? he’s still very, very young and very much not an axxhole. again, fitting our formula. if he is still under contract for nex tyear, i will withdraw this post until this time NEXT season……..
I’d like for us to give Oden a chance as well. He is going to be a FA this summer, so we’ll see what happens with him. I see him sticking with the Blazers, though. Right now, we don’t look like a much of a better team, and I’m sure he’d like to stay with his current teammates.
"He's the ultimate zone buster." – Bill Land on Gary Neal
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on May 3, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Whoops, he’s only a restricted FA. That makes matters much harder. The Blazers will have plenty of cash to keep him.
"He's the ultimate zone buster." – Bill Land on Gary Neal
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on May 3, 2011 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I’d still like to see Luc Richard Mbah a Moute of the Bucks as our wing defender. He’s a restricted FA this summer, but they have plenty of wing depth (Delfino, Maggette, Salmons, Douglas-Roberts) with Douglas-Roberts being another restricted FA for them as well, which could make it harder for them to keep both. If Michael Redd is able to make a return for them, it’ll be even harder for them to find minutes at the wing.
"He's the ultimate zone buster." – Bill Land on Gary Neal
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
My only problem with Mbah a Moute is that he can’t shoot
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on May 3, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I’d say that defense is much more of a priority this summer. We have plenty of shooters. Mbah is also young and has great size for a SF. If he could shoot, we probably wouldn’t have a chance at signing him.
"He's the ultimate zone buster." – Bill Land on Gary Neal
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on May 3, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I seem to recall James Anderson playing pretty tight D before he was injured…
"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?" - Vince Lombardi
I think the Spurs need to improve their height up and down the lineup, which would be hard to do while keeping Hill & Blair. If Hill were actually a PG it wouldn’t be so bad, but he’s not. If he is mainly a 2 guard, in the long run the Spurs will be better off using Anderson and Green. They do need someone who can actually play PG to back up Tony, though perhaps moving Manu back to the bench might partially solve the problem.
Blair’s usefulness is limited due to his lack of height. Tiago seems capable of moving into the starting lineup, but more depth (and taller) is needed. Perhaps Ryan Richards is ready to help there. Perhaps Bourousis or some other international player is ready to join the NBA (and hopefully won’t hold Tiago’s lack of playing time against the Spurs)? I’d think an inexpensive free agent who has looked good in international play (while stuck behind Marc Gasol and Thabeet) is Haddadi. It might take something more to find someone that is an offensive threat in the post, but it should not be as difficult to upgrade the defense.
I expect the roster will include Tony, Manu, Anderson, Green, Butler, Tim, and Tiago. New additions might include Richards and Nando. Players that might leave in a trade would include RJ, Bonner, Hill, Blair and Neal. Novak might be back (particularly if Bonner is traded), Quinn seems unlikely. Maybe Jefferson, Blair, Hill and a draft pick for Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton and Koufas? Bonner and Neal for a Jason Thompson?
The perfect trade for me would be
RJ + Dice + Blair (or Hill or a draft pick) for Sjax and T.Thomas
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
by spursfan87 on May 3, 2011 5:35 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I don’t think the salaries work, but that would be pretty freaking awesome. S-Jax rings the toughness, Thomas brings the rangy defensive PF we need.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
it works, at least on the trade machine
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
I’ve always thought it highly suspicious that RJ’s and Steven Jackson’s contracts are so similar, perhaps the spurs had him in mind as an exit strategy
A lot depends on the year the contract ends, but there are a lot of reasons why teams might move a contract of similar cost to get a new one.
RJ isn’t that bad. He’s not in the most ideal system, but he shot 43% from 3pt land. That’s not chump change. Also being the 4th/5th option takes away a lot of looks.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Im not too familiar with the contractual side of things, but what about James Gist and RObert Javkotas? I remember those guys as being Spur picks from a year or two ago. They both have size and athleticism. Are they even a possibility?
"I like to use my pump fake to make them come hard, that's when I use my penetration." -Manu Ginobili
I doubt that we’re still interested in Gist, and I have no clue about Javtokas.
I think we’ll definitely give Marcus Cousin another look, though.
"He's the ultimate zone buster." – Bill Land on Gary Neal
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on May 4, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
some people said dwight would love to come to SA. And if ever dice retires, then we need to replace him with a young C/PF and yeah, how can we get T. Prince?
Gary Neal made me believe that miracles and where Sean Elliot is a saint in his intercession happens. Miracles do happen! Thank you Baby Jesus!
No offense to most of you, but I don’t think we need old role players anymore. We need to get up and coming talent otherwise we’ll be first round fodder year in and year out.
Tayshaun Prince, S-Jax are just a little bit too old for what we should be shooting for. Mbah a Moute and Tyrus Thomas are in the right age bracket. Of course Dwight would be too.
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on May 4, 2011 10:21 AM CDT reply actions
Couldn’t have said it better myself. I completely agree that most of the players mentioned are a little older than what the Spurs should be looking for. I think if it was 2 years ago, adding Prince of Jack would have been a good move. But let’s face it, we made the play for RJ and now we’re just going to have to live with the results. I would love the Spurs to make a move to get younger and more athletic, but I’m just not sure if it’s possible.
And not to be totally depressing to everyone, but I cry a little everytime I watch the Blazers play and think back if they hadn’t taken Batum right before SA was planning on taking him and how good that kid would look in Silver and Black.
With Wallace on board in Portland, I think Batum might be attainable now. I’m just sayin’.
Time to build a new dynasty from the ashes of the old one.
I would LOVE to have Batum. Still irritated that Pritchard stole him
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on May 4, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
however you spell his name
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on May 4, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
For those wanting S-Jax and Ty Thomas, this trade works, although I doubt Charlotte would be a fan of it. They would free some cap space with Dyess, though.
"He's the ultimate zone buster." – Bill Land on Gary Neal
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on May 4, 2011 11:01 AM CDT reply actions
Another athletic, young big I’d like to see in silver & black is Greg Monroe (6’10", 250 lb PF) of the Pistons. It would be hard to pry him away, though, since he’s one of the few young prospects they have. Number-wise, trading him straight-up for Bonner works, though.
"He's the ultimate zone buster." – Bill Land on Gary Neal
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on May 4, 2011 11:43 AM CDT reply actions
They won’t ever let him go. I spend as much time on Detroit’s blog as I do on here and he’s really the only “untouchable” player on their roster.
Free Steve Novak
by SpursfanSteve on May 4, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Him and the red panda
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on May 4, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Who's the Red Panda?
At first I thought you were referring to Matt Bonner. Do you mean Charlie “Kevin-Garnett-told-me-I-am-cancerous-to-my-team” Villanueva?
by JIFTheChosenOne on May 6, 2011 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions
http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2010/11/16/1818553/a-brief-history-of-red-pandas
http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2011/4/23/2129072/a-tale-of-two-red-pandas
For us, Robert Horry is the Red Panda. For them…I can’t answer that.
Free Steve Novak
by SpursfanSteve on May 6, 2011 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Taj Gibson from the Bulls for George Hill?
He’s showed some major upside, plus he’s a capable shot blocker. He’s not a 7 footer but he is a capable upgrade. And losing Hill isn’t such a bad thing if we go out and sign a vet backup at pg and draft at that position. It also lets us focus our development on Anderson and Neal.
Duncan / Splitter
TAJ / Blair / Bonner
Jefferson / Green / Butler
Manu / Neal / Anderson
Parker / ??
While I would love Taj Gibson, the only way we ever get him is if Thibs falls asleep for one second
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on May 5, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
D-12
There is NO WAY we get Dwight Howard. From what I have read on Hoops Hype, he wants to be “The Man,” and that’s why he might not follow Deron Williams to New Jersey. Plus, if his ego is that big, the Spurs brass, especially Pop, won’t sign him because they like to go after guys that “are over themselves.”
In a dream world we sign him and win rings No. 5, 6 and 7. It’s nice to dream!
by JIFTheChosenOne on May 6, 2011 12:06 AM CDT reply actions
This is Tony’s team. Manu is the heart and soul (of us fans, too) of The Good Guys, but, he’s aging (very, very well). Tony is THE BEST pg in the league when it comes to driving to the paint and tear-dropping/circus-shooting (with the bucket/and1)/drive and kick.
I really believe Timmeh is better suited for coming off the bench (GOATPUFF6MAN?). these days.
Hibbert/Horford would be amazing next to Sparkles and I’d like to see (more) of what Cousin can do. DeJuan needs to watch more Barkley videos. How tall is THAT fatso?
Get Heinrich (sp?).
We have a great TEAM… just think we’re lacking that shut-down wing defender( which I don’t put past Hill/JAnderson/RJ/Green providing) and an althetic big (the times – they’re a-changing). Seriously. A healthy JAnderson, Neal with a season under his belt, Butler… we have a lot to look forward to.
Is there any way we can trade the team for Vujacic?
can't forget Matty, if you did you'd feel gyped
like your sandwich ain't a sandwich without Miracle Whip
Duncan can start, but the other big has to be a dynamic big. That’s the key. Splitter next to someone at this point would result in less spacing since his jump shot will not be anything next year. Spacing wise for Parker, having Duncan and a dynamic big, like an Ibaka would work well. It would work less well with Splitter.
Marc Gasol/Zbo works because both have range (especially Zbo) even though they are both big.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
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