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Post Season Thoughts: Are the Spurs No Longer Special?

Well Pounders, it's that time of year again. The time of year where the Spurs get ready for a nice bonding fishing trip. The time of year where the media pundits rejoice that the boring small-market team doesn't bog down the NBA Finals ratings again. And, more recently, the time of year when the pundits call us too old and transform to kids at Christmas finally speculating about the end of the Spurs Dynasty and the retirement of Tim Duncan.

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I really don't know what annoyed me more about this post-season: the annoying punk-ass Z-Bounding Memphis Grizzlies or the insistence by the media that a loss by the Spurs would finally crush the '00s Spurs Dynasty. I'd like to address each of these points individually.

Firstly, this series was awful, horrible, I hated it, it sucked. There are teams that I would be alright with losing to, like the..... like the..... like the not-Grizzlies.

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Did you hear that Zach, if someone existed who was the complete opposite of you, and we lost to him, I might actually be OK with it. MY OPINION COUNTS!!!

This series sucked, and many of our players didn't play up to capacity.

 

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Seriously Matt, don't you watch Coach B. USE BOTH HANDS

 

But honestly what pissed me off the most about the Grizzlies were the players arrogant, attitudes. They walked into Game 5 expecting the Spurs to lie down, and they were upset when they didn't.  That's what made this moment so perfect for me:

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"The first thing I want you to do is to get those pieces of crap out of my arena! Don't just get them out of the Arena get them out of San Antonio. Because I've proved son, without a shadow of a doubt, that you don't have what it takes to beat us at home. You talk about your Gasol, your Z-Bounds and your Shane Battier 3s, well Gary Neal's 3 says we just whooped your ass." - Ice Cold Gary Neal

Sadly a series comeback was not to be, and I think we all saw it coming. But it was a great ride, we took a team whose main pieces consisted of 2 over the hill players, one injured player, and Tony Parker, and whose playoff hopes still rested upon Richard Jefferson doing something. I'm damn proud of this team, nobody thought we would even get 50 wins. We were #2 in the NBA, we beat out the Lakers, the Celtics, and the Heat. Think about that. We started losing because we were tired. We were tired because we were older, and for nobody was this more evident than in Tim Duncan. He was clearly gassed by Game 6 and it showed. If we want to contend next year we're gonna need a lot more pieces.

 


But nothing baffled me more then the talk of the crumbling of the Spurs dynasty. Uh... guys. Get with the news! The Spurs last won the title in 2007. The NBA has moved on, Tim Duncan has grown older. Let's assume Tim Duncan leaves and doesn't have the chance to get another ring. They assume that we cannot win anymore once Timmeh leaves. they assume that we will no longer special. They assume that we will go away.

I'm here to defend the Spurs and say right now, the Spurs may not win another title for a long time but I'm here to say that the Spurs are not going away.  I'll admit, I'm not the oldest Spurs fan out there, my earliest memories of the Spurs are of David Robinson and Sean Elliot wrecking the league right before some young upstart from Wake Forest took the league by storm. I remember never having won a championship and having the thrill of the first, then the second, the third, and the fourth. Who would've thought that the Spurs would've been able to have a comparative decade to the Lakers? And yet we did? But why? What made us special?

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Before we had GOATPUFF we had this guy.

The reason I began watching the Spurs, besides the obvious of being born in San Antonio, was their character. Think of it, who were our biggest stars of the last two Spurs eras. Tim Duncan and David Robinson.Good-natured big men, who played tough but are both great individuals. Was this coincidence? Sure, we lucked out by getting both of these guys as the first pick in the NBA draft, but for the Spurs character is just as much a consideration as talent. We would've found players of good-character to represent the Spurs had we not gotten Tim Duncan and David Robinson; we would not have enjoyed the success that we have, but we would've found the players.

When people say the Spurs will go away, they are talking about win/loss totals. But what they don't understand is that behind all the wins, behind all the championships, behind  the long line of great players to don the silver and black. There remains one thing. Be good off the court first, and on the court second, the Spurs will never go away, no matter how much you want it. Deal with it.

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nets fan here, the dynasty is over, very good run, 4 titles, , 4 more than my nets

but duncan is on decline, mcdyess has little left, and rj has been awful with spurs

by jadedeed2327 on Apr 30, 2011 12:02 AM CDT reply actions  

You missed the point. The dynasty is over, it’s been over. The Spurs are not going away

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by NYHorn on Apr 30, 2011 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

They exited in the second round last year. I’ll give you that they didn’t win any second round games, but they did get past the first round..

"Entropy isn't what it used to be."

by oldtimeyspurfan on May 1, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think, he was talking about future 1st round exits, though it’s kind of hard to tell.

"I don’t think anything I just wrote makes any sense." - by quincyscott on Apr 1

by Kondor on May 1, 2011 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

NOT TRYING TO PUT A FIGHT HERE. But SA has been in the playoffs for how many years and I’m sure LA is the only team that has a better streak to that for teams that are currently competitive (since Philly has the longest record——um that happened around 4 decades ago). What I’m trying to say is that, SA has been competitive and I will admit that it’s either we win a ‘chip next year or a 5th ’chip after 5 years or even 10, but we will be staying in the playoffs and be competitive(win or lose). Thank the FO’s, coaches and players for that success. Winning ‘chips may have ended but this team will be staying and playing in the playoffs for a long—long—-long time….Um, so how about your nets? I guess you do have a good future there but I don’t know if NJ in the future can manage to level or better or even get near the level on how SA has handled itself.

Gary Neal made me believe that miracles and where Sean Elliot is a saint in his intercession happens. Miracles do happen! Thank you Baby Jesus!

by tp_09 on May 4, 2011 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice.

A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.

by alamobro on Apr 30, 2011 12:15 AM CDT reply actions  

We got Timmeh to replace Admiral. We have nobody to replace Duncan.

"I don’t think anything I just wrote makes any sense." - by quincyscott on Apr 1

by Kondor on Apr 30, 2011 2:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Bonner? Just kidding.

I prefer to think of Hipuks as an asexual mouse.- LatinD

by Hipuks on Apr 30, 2011 3:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

you are funny

"I don’t think anything I just wrote makes any sense." - by quincyscott on Apr 1

by Kondor on Apr 30, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you’re both wrong on that. It remains to be seen though.

"Entropy isn't what it used to be."

by oldtimeyspurfan on May 1, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

do u think that Hipuks is not funny?

"I don’t think anything I just wrote makes any sense." - by quincyscott on Apr 1

by Kondor on May 1, 2011 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tough crowd.

I prefer to think of Hipuks as an asexual mouse.- LatinD

by Hipuks on May 1, 2011 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

giggle

"Entropy isn't what it used to be."

by oldtimeyspurfan on May 2, 2011 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dynasty Over?

I agree the Dynasty is over. Reigns end when you cannot consistently win the big prize so in truth our dynasty ended with our last championship in 2007. Now we are still competitive but we need to do some serious rebuilding at key positions if we want to remain competitive. We could use a dominant low post player and a dynamic wing at the 3 spot. We cannot trot out the same ol roster expecting different results in the playoffs. Send Bonner packing. If D-Blair cannot develop a jump shot, send him packing. Put Splitter in the starting lineup. Find me a long armed, high jumping SF that can actually dribble into the lane and finish. Bring RJ off the bench since his numbers make him look like a bench player. Hill can fill the 2 spot off the bench but we need a pure point guard to back up TP that has some size. I think if we can get some length, athleticism and size then we can get back to good ol Spurs Defense. We’re just too small. Man I hate it when Barkley is right.

by Cypherlocks on Apr 30, 2011 6:42 AM CDT reply actions  

i agree with you. We need a wing that is a defender and can hit threes. We need to keep Splitter then add another big man(the one who’s going to replace dice if ever he retires), I think we don’t really need to send Bonner packing, we need a big who can shoot threes(or if novak is way better than Bonner or someone is better than bonner then I guess we could pack him out. I think someone who doesn’t run awkwardly sounds better than him, just kidding). I think if Dice retires, we could replace him with another big, then find a defensive stopper SF. I think that sometimes Blair can play some sf, even though he’s slow, too slow that is. That is a bogus idea but man, that kid can rebound. for a pg, I think we might add a passing pg that is very reliable when he’s called up (we can have a pg to be our 13th man, since hill can still switch to the 2 spot and have manu and rj as the sg and sf respectively). Let’s just hope that we can have a better team next year and hopefully if changes will happen, chemistry and how to run the SA system won’t be an issue and yeah near playoffs injury too.

Gary Neal made me believe that miracles and where Sean Elliot is a saint in his intercession happens. Miracles do happen! Thank you Baby Jesus!

by tp_09 on May 4, 2011 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

The dynasty may be over, but who said that it can’t be rebuilt again?

Free Tiago!

by cryoscourge on Apr 30, 2011 6:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Exactly, we need to focus on what makes the Spurs unique and build from there

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by NYHorn on Apr 30, 2011 7:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

the spurs way is. Play Boring by giving off Good Defense and a boring offense. And games that are not nationally televised, maybe that would help.

Gary Neal made me believe that miracles and where Sean Elliot is a saint in his intercession happens. Miracles do happen! Thank you Baby Jesus!

by tp_09 on May 4, 2011 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

The dynasty will never be over, coz even after Timmy and Manu, I think we can keep counting on the Silver and Black to step it up and keep Pounding the Rock. They can say what they want, but the fact remains that the Spurs are a championship team, not necessarily by talents, but by character. Go Spurs Go!

by jemokn on Apr 30, 2011 8:57 AM CDT reply actions  

the Spurs are a championship team, not necessarily by talents, but by character

More moral victories are coming. Hurray!

"I don’t think anything I just wrote makes any sense." - by quincyscott on Apr 1

by Kondor on Apr 30, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Beats no victories. You could be a Knicks fan.

by LatinD on Apr 30, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

no, I couldn’t. you could be a mavsfan though.

"I don’t think anything I just wrote makes any sense." - by quincyscott on Apr 1

by Kondor on Apr 30, 2011 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

We all have a mavsfan within us. He rears his ugly head when our team loses.

by LatinD on May 1, 2011 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is so very true. Every time we lose a series as a favorite I feel like a mavsfan gets stronger in me.

"I don’t think anything I just wrote makes any sense." - by quincyscott on Apr 1

by Kondor on May 1, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

LD, please check out the Quotes page which has been updated to reflect your recent awesomeness.

Pounding the Rock
When you’re not trying to tear apart the fabric of society, you’re pretty cool. -Hipuks

by J.R. Wilco on May 10, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly. and media pundits hate it since they know that we’ll be here until the league is over, that would probable after a million years or you know just break the philly streak for the longest streak in the playoffs.

Gary Neal made me believe that miracles and where Sean Elliot is a saint in his intercession happens. Miracles do happen! Thank you Baby Jesus!

by tp_09 on May 4, 2011 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Only Quinn, Novak, and Green are not under contract for next season.

"Ginobili. . .He's weaving, he's throwing up triple axels in sneakers, he's willing the ball into the basket. It's Cirque du Soleil with refs." Dan Oshinsky / KENS 5

by janieannie on Apr 30, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

They walked into Game 4 expecting the Spurs to lie down,

Umm, game 4 is when the Spurs did lie down. At least in the 2nd half. But you probably meant game 5.

by doggydogworld on Apr 30, 2011 2:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Sorry meant game 5, will fix.

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by NYHorn on Apr 30, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tim Duncan and David Robinson…… Sure, we lucked out by getting both of these guys as the first pick in the NBA draft,

The only two #1 picks in the past 25 or so years to win rings with the team that drafted them.

by doggydogworld on Apr 30, 2011 2:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Pretty shocking if you think about it.

If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.

by doubleteapot on Apr 30, 2011 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

agree. but it also helps that the FO surrounded them with great role players.

by i luv this site on May 2, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

…and here, I thought they were roll players…

"Entropy isn't what it used to be."

by oldtimeyspurfan on May 2, 2011 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

i hope D. Rose would stop sucking against Atlanta(can’t blame him, argh! Stupid ankle injuries!). I think Rose will be the third guy making Chi the second team to win a ’chip with a former number 1 pick. :)

Gary Neal made me believe that miracles and where Sean Elliot is a saint in his intercession happens. Miracles do happen! Thank you Baby Jesus!

by tp_09 on May 4, 2011 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not only that, but I believe the only lottery picks to win a ring with the team that drafted them are Horry, Stacey King, Duncan, Admiral, S. Elliott, Bynum and Wade. Let me know if you think of another one (Kobe was picked by the Hornets).

by Gino20 on May 6, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

are you talking about the last 20 years? Cause Jordan, Magic, Bird all won with the team that drafted them

"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."

-Timothy Varner 48MoH

by Jordan Leithart on May 6, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am referring to

lottery picks to win a ring with the team that drafted them
. The lottery started in 1985, so that throws out Jordan/Hakeem from the ‘84 draft and all others who came before. Ewing was the original lottery pick and his team came up a bit short of a ring. I am also not counting those who, like Pippen and Bryant, were drafted and traded to another team on draft day. That means Dirk won’t count either if the Mavs win a title (he was drafted by MIL).

by Gino20 on May 6, 2011 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see. Reading comprehension fail

"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."

-Timothy Varner 48MoH

by Jordan Leithart on May 9, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

But reply success!

Pounding the Rock
When you’re not trying to tear apart the fabric of society, you’re pretty cool. -Hipuks

by J.R. Wilco on May 10, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Darko and Pierce also belong on the list.

Derrick Rose and Jason Kidd (returning to his original team), along with multiple Thunder players are trying to make this list. From the stats/graphics I have seen during game telecasts, it appears the Sonics history is being counted with the Thunder’s history.

by Gino20 on May 15, 2011 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

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