Game #80 Recap: RJ, Spurs roll past Jazz in final home game, 111-102
It's that time of the year again. No, I'm not talking about the playoffs, not just yet. It's that in-between period of meaningless games leading up to the big three-month dance, where some serious stat padding is going on among players and teams wanting to finish the season on a high note (Stephen Curry of last season comes to mind), add in some exciting games here and there with teams jockeying for ideal playoff position, and then top it off with stars taking entire nights off to rest beaten bodies. I think at this point you have to take almost everything with a grain of salt -- sure, everybody wants and is addicted to winning as much as Charlie Sheen, but homestretch agendas usually take a slightly different turn from themes witnessed during much of the regular season.
The San Antonio Spurs, all tidy and set as the West's number one seed, have expressed that finishing with the best record overall in the entire league is something that's a "nice to have" rather than a "must have" at this point. Against an upset-happy Utah Jazz team, however, you would've thought the Spurs were going full speed to secure that distinction. The men in silver-and-black treated attendees of the last home game of the season, "Fan Appreciation Night" as this is usually called, to huge doses of the staple hot, long-range shooting and a rare plate of crowd-pleasing dunks. Led by Richard Jefferson's 20 points and 4 threes, the Spurs submitted 7 players in double figure scores as they whittled down an injury-depleted Jazz lineup for their fourth straight win. The Spurs also closed out a season of home dominance with a 36-5 record at the AT&T Center.
My mind is in playoff mode right now (my recaps, unfortunately, aren't), and I've never had a better feeling about our chances since, you know, when the Spurs were still locking people up in a cage and setting the perimeter of said cage on fire until their opponents cried "no mas!", choking from the smoke and eyes all welled up from staring at the flames. So before I continue, here's a magnificent Marvin Gaye song because it just fits the moment and we need playoff swagger and because we just beat the Jazz so good music is in order. All of those, and maybe more.
For the first time in a long while, we have a legitimate chance at a fifth trophy, guys. I know with Tim Duncan, he's always put this team in a position to contend every single year he's been in this league. But the last few years, it's been different and he's not as dominating as he used to and wins became harder and harder to come by. Now, in the twilight of the GoatPuff's career the Spurs are about to match their best record ever, and after a really memorable season of basketball, it just feels right that Duncan should get another ring before he hangs it all up, right?
The road looks the toughest it has been since Shaq tangoed with Kobe, and the Spurs, even with best record in tow, have all these kinds of weaknesses rivaling that of an old codger feeling pain in multiple areas of his body he never once thought contributed to a fully functioning frame. But still, it has been a season of overcoming odds -- the team bouncing back in a big way after barely making the playoffs last year, Gary Neal's remarkable phoenix-like rise from a tarnished path and perceived basketball irrelevance, the tectonic shift in offensive production, responsibility and even sensibilities, and the longest Duncan-era losing streak that threatened to destroy everything pure and true in SpursLand. The words "when you want something, you have to work for it" have never sounded truer than it has for me now, when the term "pounding the rock" has been thrown around every hour even when the team was putting together multiple double-digit win streaks and furiously rewriting team records.
So yes, in short, it's been like a dream so far. I'm almost afraid to ask, how will it end? (oops, I just did) Hopefully, not in flaming chickens, else I'll have to lock myself up in a room for a week watching reruns of Friends and consuming pints of ice cream like I just had a messy break up with my future next girlfriend. Heaven help us in the playoffs.
Tony auditioning for Black Swan 2: Pau Gasol is a Soft Hairy Marshmallow.
THE Game
Not much to break down quarter-by-quarter, but it was a very entertaining game to say the least. The Spurs really gave the fans a lot to cheer about for the last regular season home game, so kudos to the team. They could've put Blake Griffin in there to jump over the hood of a CAT truck and he still wouldn't have topped Richard Jefferson's throwback alley-oop in transition off a pass from Gary "Are you J-Kidd-ing me?" Neal. The first half had its share of good moments, highlighted by that sterling three-minute finish that saw the Spurs close strongly with a 9-0 run thanks to RJ going Rage 2.0 with a three and the aforementioned dunk, plus a George Hill slamma alba jamma sandwiched in between. That late surge allowed the good guys to end the half with a comfortable 11-point lead, 57-46 at the break.
I know for the past two seasons ridiculing RJ during every loss or losing streak has become a traditional pastime of PtR or Spurs nation, but I genuinely want the guy to succeed with the Spurs. I was happy for him to have hit the 20-point plateau after about six months, even if most of the points still came on threes and not enough drives to the rim. It's so easy to call him dumb, slow, clumsy, a runaway groom and bereft of the requisite BBIQ to function in San Antonio's complicated system, but through it all, the dude has been really professional about everything -- not whining about the lack of touches or plays ran for him, not once demanding a trade, and never crying in the locker room after a big loss. Okay, that last one's just a wild guess, for all we know Pop made him cry almost everyday during the summer. He's been a true professional his entire stay so far, and as someone who appreciates the kind of big sacrifices that a player makes for the sake of the team, RJ's transformation (or regression, but of the good kind if there ever was one) has been one of the better yet underrated stories of the season.
Halftime Musings: All-NBA Team Selections
I've been reading a few articles about writers' All-NBA teams, and I think it's safe to say that despite three All-NBA teams, there's a huge possibility that the Spurs will not have a player in any of them. Is this a travesty that the best team in the regular season will not have a representative? After all, aren't these awards -- ROY, MVP, 6th Man, MIP, COY, etc. -- all based on regular season success?
Awards are such a crazy, if not sometimes irrational, phenomenon of wanting to be objective but always turns out to be more hype and prone to subjectivity. Regardless, this just proves that this Spurs season is a very rare one, not just in San Antonio lore, but in NBA history. How many times has it happened in the past when the number one team doesn't even get to have an All-NBAer? I'd like to look at it not as an injustice but rather basketball reaching its peak, its purest form where everybody works as one cohesive unit and nobody cares who's the leading scorer or rebounder or shot blocker, a true team greater than the sum of its parts. Maybe somewhere, someplace, Dr. James Naismith is smiling while swishing a piece of fruit through a peach basket.
Before Tiago, There Was Uwe and his Uwe-someness
The second half was more like the Spurs in cruise control for the most part, with Tony, Rage and Tim all taking turns destroying the porous Jazz interior, exterior and posterior. The lead ballooned to as high as 17 points after a Frenchie McWonderbutt layup, and from then on it was the Tiago Splitter Showcase, complete with the grunting and free throw-brickfest worthy of mouths agape since a chap named Uwe Blab had fans buzzing just because his name was Uwe Blab and he wore a Spurs jersey. (wait until Bismack Biyombo gets to the NBA!)
At this point, supplanting DeJuan Blair's rotation spot is probably next to impossible for Splitter unless he really plays out of his mind in the playoffs. Still, Tiago gets everyone excited whenever he comes in, and it's not just because he sparkles or makes everyone watch in anticipation as to when he'll bust out the T-Rex hook shot, put his dazzling footwork to good use, set pinpoint screens and roll to the basket like a boss, or dunk the ball and land hard on his ass. No, it's the workman-like play that has us all feeling hopeful and positive about the now and the future. Splitter's no franchise player, but every fan can easily appreciate the hustle and tenacity that he brings, even if it means having to go through the torture of watching him clank his free throws.
Tiago went toe-to-toe with established post up machine Al Jefferson in the fourth quarter, with Jefferson continuously burning Splitter at the low block with an array of jump hooks left and right, plus the occasional mid range jumper to keep the Brazilian's defense honest. But instead of wilting in the heat of someone scoring in your face over and over again, Tiago kept his composure and earned his pay on the offensive end, nearly nabbing every offensive rebound in sight and quickly scoring off of putbacks like his butt was on fire and it was the last game Pop will ever let him play. At the end of the day, he'll make you ask, "Why on earth is this guy not playing more minutes?" but of course, Pop is CIA and we can never talk too much about this lest we disappear off the grid and magically reappear with an eye patch on our left eye. I told you to not go chasing waterfalls!
Despite the win, should we be concerned that we let the Jazz shoot 54% and the Spurs lucky to shoot 58%, saved by the eight three pointers? As I said at the beginning, it's hard to really put a lot of stock into these remaining games as a future predictor of what's going to happen in the playoffs. I thought the Jazz played decent defense, but the team's passing was just spot on and crisp for most of the game. The ball movement was a joy to watch and the 29 assists on 41 made field goals (70%) is proof of that. Slowly but surely, even if most of the four-game winning streak has been built demolishing scrub teams, the Spurs' explosive offense is returning to form and it should do wonders for the team's confidence heading into the money season.
Two games left, and we end the season in style with David Stern and his minions setting up the Spurs on a back-to-back. The first one against the Lakers in Los Angeles, with LA seemingly content to relax and lose games and watch Ron Artest kiss his biceps. I'd love to get a 3-1 season series win over them, but for sure Phil's got some mind games shit out of his sleeve and Kobe is Kobe, who always refuses to lose. Then it's on to the depleted Phoenix Suns in Arizona, where we hope to finish the game with everyone in one piece, healthy and pumped for the playoffs. See you kiddos in the next few days.
Your Three Stars
3 -- Gary Neal
2 -- Tiago Splitter
1 -- Richard Jefferson
Parting shot: Free Darko Goes Dark
This is a nice interview with Beth Shoals and Jacob Weinstein as they prepare to finally shut down a blog which has played a crucial part in influencing basketball bloggers (such as I) in the past decade or so. Check it out.
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I was at the game and so glad Tiago got a lot of time. We need him come playoff time against LA.
Also, I am getting really worried about Matt Bonner.
No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try.
I’ve figured out the Bonner/Blair pairing. It’s classic CIA Pop- They’ve both been off their game because during practice, Pop has them swapping roles for the playoffs, and they have to play together during games to absorb the most possible observation of each other. When the playoffs start, Blair will be launching threes and dribbling around the perimeter with all the grace of a giraffe on a unicycle. Meanwhile, Bonner will actually try to grab loose balls, and he’ll be unleashing DeJuan’s Tasmanian Devil Reverse Layup Move in the post. Minds and matchups will be blown beyond repair.
"I know everthang they is to know about the shrimpin bidness."
Hah.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Apr 10, 2011 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
You really cannot beat Marvin Gaye.
All these GIFs are breaking my browser.
by quincyscott on Apr 10, 2011 11:26 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I like the Ozymandias Duncan.
The Spurs are playing very well. Right now, they look like the team that never lost two games in a row, the team that got contributions from everyone, the team that shared the ball better than any team, the team that could turn up the defense in key moments, the team that played with smooth, hungry swagger. I like that team.
There isn’t a dominant team in the league right now, and that includes the Lakers. We have flaws, but every team has flaws. Experts and fans alike should think twice before dismissing the Spurs chances at a fifth ring.
It’s been a very enjoyable, very weird season. I have no idea what happens next, and that’s half the fun. Go. Spurs. Go…
All these GIFs are breaking my browser.
by quincyscott on Apr 10, 2011 11:39 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
They had nothing to play for, they’re seeding was set regardless of the game’s outcome.
Unfortunately, the Knicks (whom the Bulls play next) probably won’t care about the game either, they might be stuck with the 6th seed win or lose.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
Knicks can still finish behind Philly at #7, plus they can sweep the season series vs Chicago.
- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I see, thank you. Lets hope they destroy the Bulls at the Gahden.
One thing though, it might behoove the Knicks to finish 7th instead of 6th. They would face Miami instead of Boston in that scenario ( as things currently stand)
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
Now the Spurs probably ask themselves if they really want to go balls out on these last 2 games, just to have a potential HC finals advantage decided by some fu%ing ridiculous random drawing…..
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
The Spurs could wrap it up easily if they won’t go on the ridiculous 6 games losing streak. They can still get HC against anybody if they win the two remaining games. But of course it is easier to blame the rules rather than to play hard every night.
"I don’t think anything I just wrote makes any sense." - by quincyscott on Apr 1
Bah… rationality
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on Apr 10, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Does the six game losing streak somehow make a random drawing any more legitimate or less ridiculous?
The six game losing streak certainly didnt help San Antonios cause , but something tells me whoever doesnt get HC in the finals (if its Spurs vs Bulls) will have something to say about the method used for choosing it.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
I just don’t understand all this whining about random drawing, sorry. If you have better record, you have HCA. If both teams has the same record (as may happen between SA and Chi), then (I think) you look on how they played each other (1-1). Then it’s how they played against opposite conference (same for Chi and SA). Then what? OK, I could suggest to look at the record of whole conferences against each other or at the result of all-star game (that would allow to avoid random drawing in any case), but the rules are that it’s random drawing. How does this justify not playing?
Now the Spurs probably ask themselves if they really want to go balls out on these last 2 games, just to have a potential HC finals advantage decided by some fu%ing ridiculous random drawing…I simply don’t understand your logic. If it won’t be random drawing, then the Spurs should have played harder? Why? I think, the Spurs should realize that they put themselves into this situation, and not make some strange excuses because the rules are somehow ‘ridiculous’.
"I don’t think anything I just wrote makes any sense." - by quincyscott on Apr 1
I don’t expect the Spurs to make any excuses. At this point, I’m not sure how much they care about potential HCA vs a Chicago team in a series that either may not make. Recent seasons tell us that both #1 seeds will not make the Finals.
- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I finally realized the best way to decide the top seed if teams split the season series: strength of conference or division. If two teams from separate conferences finish with identical records, how can the team from the stronger conference not be considered better?
Check out the divisions: second place in the Central is Indiana at 23 games back. The last place team in the Midwest is only 19 out of first. The Bulls have a 15-1 record in their division, Spurs are 10-6. The difference in teams is not displayed in record because one team plays superior opponents most nights. Switch conferences and the Spurs are more likely to win 65+ games while Chicago falls closer to 55.
- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
This is true. Down with the Leastern Conference!
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Apr 10, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
While your suggestion makes great sense, I dont think they would ever use it. I just doubt the NBA would ever openly acknowledge the current superiority of the western conference. They want things equal , even if its not actually fair to the West.
Thats why the top 8 from each conference make the playoffs. If it was the top 16 regardless of conference, we would maybe see only a few teams from the east every postseason.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
I actually don’t have much problem with the top 8 per conference instead of top 16. The power of the conferences switches per decade. The dominance of the West has been a bit longer due to San Antonio and LA having such long runs while trailed by great regular season teams in Phoenix and Dallas.
It no longer takes 50 wins to make the West playoffs. With the departure of DW & Melo to the East, advancing age of Duncan, Kobe, Dirk and Nash, and the improvement of Rose, it will become more balanced over the next few seasons. But, in any season where top seeds have an equivalent number of wins and split the two game season series, it is foolish to not look at the better conference or division as a deciding factor in how that record came about. That it could end up being decided by a coin flip would make Stern look more silly than Selig and his All-Star game deciding factor.
- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
They do look at the record against the opposite conference though. Chi was just as good against the west, as SA against the east. Which makes all speculations that SA would easily win 65, while Chi would fell down to 55 somewhat weaker. Evidently, Chicago won a lot of games against the big bad west.
"I don’t think anything I just wrote makes any sense." - by quincyscott on Apr 1
Chicago still played alot less games (20) against the superior west than San Antonio did. Its pure speculation to reason the Bulls would have kept up theyre winning percentage wtih 20 extra games against superior opponents.
Anyway you slice it, the Spurs play in a harder conference, and thus, are a better regular season team than Chicago, and probably deserve HC in the finals more than they do.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
by alamobro on Apr 10, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If we go by deserving then some teams in the west deserve to be in the playoffs since some really shitty teams in the east are going there. Some would say we deserve a random drawing determining HCA since we lost 6 freaking games in a row just as the season was ending. Good thing there is no deserve or not deserve, there just is.
"Resentments are the rocket fuel that lives in the tip of my sabre."- Charlie Sheen
How would an injury created losing streak supersede having a better record than everyone else in ones conference? That’s like saying that if the T-Wolves or Kings end the season on a 10 game win streak, they deserve a playoff spot despite sucking the prior 72.
- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Which is why we go by a number of other objective stuff before finally considering a random drawing. “Deserving” to have HCA is as subjective as you can get.
"Resentments are the rocket fuel that lives in the tip of my sabre."- Charlie Sheen
Its not so subjective when there are numbers substantiating it. Hopefully, the Spurs end with a better record and this argument is rendered moot.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
But that’s solving a problem by introducing another one. If you want true fairness you get rid of conferences and each team plays each other team. As long as there is East and West there will be teams making it to the playoffs who shouldn’t be there. We had our destiny in our hands when we went on a 6 game skid, it’s no one’s fault but our own that we are even in the position that a random drawing could determine who has HCA.
"Resentments are the rocket fuel that lives in the tip of my sabre."- Charlie Sheen
I look at seasons through the full 2 games lens, not any one one bad losing streak or hot streak. It’s not a BCS ranking, it’s what you accomplish over the entirety. The schedules are unbalanced based on conferences so it’s difficult to measure a 62 in team in the East with one in the west. The most fair way to, after head to head, is which conference has a higher winning percentage, thus which team played a more difficult schedule
- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
It’s not fair if the team has no choice in which conference they belong. You can only play the opposition against you, we did that and the Bulls did that. How many games would the Bulls have won if they were in the West or the Spurs if they were in the East? Truth is nobody knows, the rest is speculation. If we finished with the same amount of wins and all the other tie-breakers, to then say, " Sorry but you guys play in weaker conference so no HCA for you" is even more unfair then a random drawing. In fact a random drawing is not unfair at all, because it’s random, it’s down to chance.
To ignore the difference in the conferences when giving playoff spots but then take into account those differences when giving HCA is ridiculous.
"Resentments are the rocket fuel that lives in the tip of my sabre."- Charlie Sheen
Disagree strongly.
- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Same here, that Hipuks guy doesn’t make any sense.
"Resentments are the rocket fuel that lives in the tip of my sabre."- Charlie Sheen
of course, if we go with the most deserving, we should just pencil HCA for the Spurs throughout, and also let them choose, who they would like to play at each round. and Goran Dragic should play in Europe, he doesn’t belong to the NBA.
"I don’t think anything I just wrote makes any sense." - by quincyscott on Apr 1
And Bonner deserves to shoot better during these playoffs considering the way he choked last year.
"Resentments are the rocket fuel that lives in the tip of my sabre."- Charlie Sheen
that’s an easy argument to make at PtR, but I am not sure that Chicago fans would buy any of this. anyway you slice it, the rules are the rules, and whether they favor your team or the opposition, they are not going to change them to accommodate you this postseason.
"I don’t think anything I just wrote makes any sense." - by quincyscott on Apr 1
It’s an easy argument because it’s logical.
- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Smaller sample size. Playing 52 games vs the West is much different from playing 30. You know that, Kondor. That’s a 22 game difference, in case you didn’t notice. I do know that the 15-1 record Chicago has vs their division is unmatched by any West team vs their respective division.
- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
You are missing the point. If you look how we played against better eastern teams, you’ll see that Boston had our number, and Chicago, Miami, Orlando, NY and Philly all won on their floor. We are barely better than 50% team when playing against eastern elite. It’s not at all evident, that our record would be much better if we played the East 22 more times. I don’t know what Chi record is against top 8 western teams, but I won’t be surprised if it’s better than our record.
"I don’t think anything I just wrote makes any sense." - by quincyscott on Apr 1
Perhaps because we’re worn down from playing superior teams in the West. Our focus is on the teams that we have to compete with for playoff spots, not eastern teams who are more rested after playing inferior competition.
- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
It’s not at all evident, that our record would be much better if we played the East 22 more times.
It would be foolish to bet against San Antonio doing better against an extra 22 against the east than Chicago doing better against 22 more west games.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
I won’t bet against SA, but the point is that we’ll never know. For now the fact is that Chi played ‘superior’ west just as well as SA played ‘lesser’ east. Does it make Chi the better and more ‘deserving’ team?
"I don’t think anything I just wrote makes any sense." - by quincyscott on Apr 1
You are suggesting a scenario favorable to Chicago because they perhaps played the West elite teams as well as San Antonio played the East elite.
This changes it to a smaller sample size, there are not many “elite” teams in the league. Overall, the Spurs had a better record against a generally tougher field of competition (this isnt an opinion or subjective, there are numbers backing this up, just look at the quality of eastern teams that are going to the playoffs.)
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
there is a rational side in your argument. it says “the conference strength should be a factor when defining the HCA in the Finals”. if it were a factor, I won’t argue with that, it would be rather logical. but unfortunately it is not a factor as the rules are currently written. there are many unlogical/unfair things about the NBA. for example, scheduling 13 back-to-backs for the Lakers and 23 B2Bs for Portland is absolutely unfair, and this is on top of the Lakers having two less road games than anybody else in the League, which already gives them unfair advantage. I don’t see having random drawing to decide HCA as particularly ridiculous or unfair, definitely not as unfair as having one team playing 39 games on the road while everyone else is playing 41 road games in the season.
"I don’t think anything I just wrote makes any sense." - by quincyscott on Apr 1
Certainly there is much that is unfair, as you have pointed out. (That shit really, really sucks. Thanks for digging that up)
But I kind of got sidetracked with my argument (once spurred on had convinced me the Spurs should get the #1 seed in that scenario)
My original argument was not who was more deserving of HC, but the method selected to determine it.
If they are able to use metrics for EVERY other tiebreaker and seeding purposes, certainly they could have chosen something more scientific than a game of paper, rock scissors to determine a potential series altering advantage, like homecourt. Thats all.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
by alamobro on Apr 11, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Queue the Lakers
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on Apr 10, 2011 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
that’s an interesting perspective to reg. season records. So that year the Warriors upset the Mavs in 1st round. In the east it would be more like a 4-5 seed upsetting # 1 in the 2nd round. Instead, it goes down as one of the biggest upsets ever in playoff history.
by SpursfanNrome on Apr 11, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Beware the interloper
With Chicago churning out of the east, Phil Jackson could be on a collision course with destiny and if your Spurs mess us up, I swear I’ll hound this blog forever… if I can remember my way back in. This SB Nation is the most confounded morass I’ve ever encountered.
Once again, it's much too late.
I think he sed sumthin bout bein’ a loafer
"Entropy isn't what it used to be."
by oldtimeyspurfan on Apr 10, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
and if your Spursmess us upknock us out of the playoffs, I swear I’llhound this blog foreverroot for them to win it all …
I fixed it for you! I are helpful.
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by Lauri on Apr 10, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Heh, so you’re Lauri’s friend with a Laker blog. Welcome to the intellectual morass that is PtR.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Apr 10, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I was gonna make a poll asking lurkers why they lurk. But then I remembered I’m lazy.
"Resentments are the rocket fuel that lives in the tip of my sabre."- Charlie Sheen
I’ll make one…
Lurkers Why do you lurk?
1. Because Hipuks is too vulgar and scary.
2. Because I’m too lazy to make a damn poll.
Please post 1 or 2 below.
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on Apr 10, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I’ll make one…
Lurkers Why do you lurk?
1. Because Hipuks is too vulgar and scary. witty and funny and well endowed. Also vulgar and scary.
2. Because I’m too lazy to make a damn poll.
Please post 1 or 2 below.
"Resentments are the rocket fuel that lives in the tip of my sabre."- Charlie Sheen
Did you just miss out on making ellipses with the username? Or are you just trying to be cool like Lauri and her Oxford commas?
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Apr 10, 2011 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Good recap, davis.
Were you really a Free Darko fan? How? Beyond all the good writing that has been posted there in the last 2/3 years (guest writers were great occasionally), shoals was historically a Spurs hater. I remember him calling Manu the “South American Iverson” once, and a number of other things. He stopped blogging every time the Spurs won big, and just whined over and over about the poor Suns being eliminated, how unfair it all way.
Meh. The books are good, but the art is 70% of the reason why (at least in the first one, since the second I’ve only skimmed through).
I didn’t pay attention much to his biases or hate against the Spurs, I like Shoals for his writing more than anything else, and the creative output that his partnership with Weinstein sired. Most of the 2nd book’s best write ups came from BS, and it’s a shame that he didn’t write the Spurs piece (which sucked, by the way). Although maybe it was also fortunate since he would’ve bashed them and I’d start hating him for life.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Apr 10, 2011 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
He’s been a true professional his entire stay so far, and as someone who appreciates the kind of big sacrifices that a player makes for the sake of the team, RJ’s transformation has been one of the better yet underrated stories of the season.
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by Kondor on Apr 10, 2011 7:12 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Wait… Memphis won against NO. What does that mean to the seedings?
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by silverandblack_davis on Apr 10, 2011 7:27 PM CDT reply actions
That puts them in a tie with Memphis having the edge on the tie breaker, so the seeding is still up in the air pending the outcome of their last two games, so we probably won’t know until Wednesday.
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by the old photog on Apr 10, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
My bad, Memphis owns the tiebreaker?
Then ESPN should have correctly slotted them into the 7th seed, instead, they have Memphis at the 8 spot.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
Sometimes ESPN is slow to factor in the subtleties of tie breakers.
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by the old photog on Apr 10, 2011 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, while I don’t see them dropping out of 6th seed, Portland doesn’t have a lock on it yet.
"Do something stupid and you’re going to regret it but, for God’s sake, don’t stand there and do nothing at all." - hirschof
by the old photog on Apr 10, 2011 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
What’s the magic number for POR to lock into the 6th?
I somehow suspect that Memphis will be tanking its last two games just to face us.
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by silverandblack_davis on Apr 10, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
It is there if they want it. Even if the Nooch and Memph get into a tanking contest for the 8th seed, Memph will win due to the Hornets superior division record.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
I’ve wondered if anyone would “tank” or excel to avoid the Lakers. One can understand choosing the Spurs over Lakers, or Mavs over either. But right now we don’t know how 2 through 4 will fall. If OKC wins tonight, it’s a free for all. It would make it impossible for those teams to know anything other than being #8 equals playing the Spurs, a Spurs team that is ascending while getting healthy, and that will be rested. A rested Duncan, Manu and Tony should scare any team with a brain.
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Are we really that bad? I am starting to feel like a mavs fan.
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Then speak like a mavs fan
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Speaking of Mavs, are we rooting for them to beat NO in their last game, or do we want a Meteor to fall on the American Airlines Center?
Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan
I’m not scared of Memphis at all, and believe we can sweep their arses in the first round. I’m just frustrated that teams see us as more beatable than the Lakers.
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by silverandblack_davis on Apr 10, 2011 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes. Exactly. Memphis is no threat.
Free Steve Novak
by SpursfanSteve on Apr 10, 2011 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
They can think that way all they want. It will make it more fun when the Spurs beat them to a pulp.
"Do something stupid and you’re going to regret it but, for God’s sake, don’t stand there and do nothing at all." - hirschof
by the old photog on Apr 10, 2011 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
The Lakers have dominated the West for three seasons without much of really tough challenge in the playoffs. While they were not dominating this season, on paper they are as strong as ever. Not too surprising to me that the teams are trying to avoid meeting them in the playoffs. The Lakers also play like bullies, making losing to them even less fun. While the Spurs tend to act professionally, in wins and in losses, the Lakers often try to intimidate an opponent physically, if they cannot win by talent alone. It doesn’t really work against Boston (KG is just as crazy as Artest) or against the Spurs (Manu is just as tough as Kobe), but some other teams tend to blink.
"I don’t think anything I just wrote makes any sense." - by quincyscott on Apr 1
I don’t know. This all is just hot bubbling air. The Lakers were playing great after ASB, and every talking head on TV was like “oh, I cannot imagine anyone beating those guys 4 times in a series”. Then they lost 5 in a row, and who knows what it means. Are they beatable now? May be, may be not. We’ll see. I was just trying to rationalize, why teams may want to avoid them.
"I don’t think anything I just wrote makes any sense." - by quincyscott on Apr 1
Hornets own the tiebreaker. Split season series but superior division record.
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You’re right. I mixed up the lines when I was looking at the division records.
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by the old photog on Apr 10, 2011 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
It is least likely that NOLA finishes #8. They’ll either have to lose their final two, or have Memphis win in Portland and have both those teams lose their finales. At this point, it’s most likely that NOLA finishes #7, with as good a chance at being #6 as #8 since they win tiebreakers with both Memphis and Portland.
- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
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Outstanding recap; very well written.
As for your halftime musings on the All-NBA team selections and awards, I agree with you wholeheartedly. The way I see it, all those awards are just the icing on the cake. If and when the Spurs win the championship, the Spurs will own the cake while the other’s icing will have nothing to support it.
"Do something stupid and you’re going to regret it but, for God’s sake, don’t stand there and do nothing at all." - hirschof
I’m happy to sweep that Jazz. After shockingly being swept by them last season, it’s nice to have the Spurs-Jazz relationship return to the Duncan era normal.
I’m really pleased to see our team win a game they don’t need while reducing minutes for the stars/vets yet never being truly threatened. I expect similar in the finale in PHX; the interesting game will be the one in LA.
- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
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Yeah…no matter who’s sitting out or who’s clinched what, it’s never just another game with us the Lakers.
"I know everthang they is to know about the shrimpin bidness."
That’s definitely an understatement.
"Do something stupid and you’re going to regret it but, for God’s sake, don’t stand there and do nothing at all." - hirschof
by the old photog on Apr 10, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
And what will Pop do? He has options aplenty. I’d sit TD just as he sat Dyess, while starting Splitter. I’d play Manu < 30 minutes, Tony right at 30, and play both Novak and Anderson. Will this win? Likely not, but I get to see Splitter have big minutes against Gasol and Bynum (whom he’s defended well in short minutes), Novak to hopefully find one match-up he can handle, and keep my team from getting rusty. Pop could then start TD & Tony against PHX but not play him the 2nd half, and sit Manu for one game off.
- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I think Novak could defend Artest. At least that’s what I’d want, since everyone knows he’s not a good defender Artest would probably try to take over the offense, which is good for us.
Free Steve Novak
by SpursfanSteve on Apr 10, 2011 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I like your plotting mind.
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It’s the only one I’ve got, so thanks. :)
Free Steve Novak
by SpursfanSteve on Apr 10, 2011 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
The Thunder have just completely outclassed the Lakers in LA.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
how hard do u think Cuban and Mavs fans will be rooting for the Spurs to win on Tuesday?
by i luv this site on Apr 10, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure. If the Spurs do lose, Lakers can’t finish 4th. But if the Spurs win, that means a six game losing streak for LA, a 3-1 season series win for SA, and LA having to play their people in the finale to try to end the losing streak and play for a higher seed. So yes, let’s beat them but while playing the reserved way that Pop has been handling the rotation.
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4th place means tough 1st round against Denver, but also potential meeting with the Spurs in the 2nd. I think, I would want Dallas at the 4th, if this is possible. If not, then Dallas at the 2nd would be my preference. The Lakers look strange recently. They are very streaky this season, as well as most of other teams. The playoffs are going to be as tough as any in the recent history. There are no teams that look head and shoulders above the competition.
"I don’t think anything I just wrote makes any sense." - by quincyscott on Apr 1
For Dallas to finish 4th they have to lose once and have OKC win their final two. OKC should hold up their end but the most likely chance for Dallas to lose is Monday night in Houston. We shall see.
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At first thought, I agree with your preferences. OKC is tough inside with Ibaka and Perkins. Plus very strong with KD and Westbrook. From a match-up standpoint, I would want to avoid them, if possible.
Normally I wouldn’t want the Lakers in the 2nd round. But for me, them playing Denver in round 1, sounds like the greatest potential for an upset. (OKC took them to 6 in last year’s 1st round.) I really doubt chances of the Lakers being upset in round 2, (unless it’s the Spurs). Their sluggishness may carry over into the opening round like it did last year. But by round 2, they will be in their playoff gear.
So now I have to consider: Would I rather face OKC/Denver in round 2, and potentially the Lakers in WCF? Or face Lakers/Denver in round 2, and potentially OKC in WCF?
Notice I didn’t include the Mavs in this, and that’s intentional. (Although surprises do happen in the playoffs, so I have to admit it’s possible, just not likely.)
Well, if I had to choose, I would go with the later: Lakers/Denver round 2 and potentially OKC in WCF.
Why? B/c in my opinion, that’s the most likely way that we don’t have to play L.A.
If Lakers go as a 3 seed, Portland is the only team that might give them problems. (Unless they face OKC, but I think that scenario is very unlikely at this point)
I think the Spurs have a very tough road no matter what happens. So that’s why I’m not really worried about one scenario happening as opposed to another for playoff seeding. I’m just really glad they got home court. I think it could be huge in regards to starting each series playing with lot’s of confidence, as opposed to thinking somewhere deep down, "Do we really got it this year, or did we just have a fortunate reg. season?. When you had the best reg. season, and earn home court, you EXPECT EVEN MORE to win a series, as opposed to just compete and hope you win. I think that especially applies to this year’s Spurs team. It’s been a while and they know they are very fortunate to be in this position. And the vets aren’t going to let their young players take anything for granted. The youngens will want to play great for the Big 3, Pop and the fans. This is a great opportunity they put themselves in position for. They have to capitalize. So the mental approach, with this team, and home court, should so much more conducive to winning, than it would be had they been a 2 or 3 seed.
Bye the way if I were a Mavs fan, I’d actually be happy with this year’s playoff seeding just because they are probably not going to face S.A. in round 1 or 2. It’s worse to lose to the same opponent than a different one. Last year they were #2 and I knew the Spurs were going to beat them. Otherwise, they would have gone to the WCF vs. L.A. If they lose this year, it will probably be to L.A. or OKC. or perhaps to S.A. in the WCF. And all of those scenarios would more respectable (in the public’s mind) than past years’ performances.
If they wind up winning it all, I’m sure the Big 3 will say that this one was the most difficult (in the playoffs) and most satisfying of all the others.
Go Spurs!
by SpursfanNrome on Apr 11, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
This is great as it creates some playoff theatrics the next three days despite all eight teams per conference being clinched. West seeds 2-4 and 6-8 are all up in the air. Every team needs to worry about winning for their own sakes and no team can attempt to rig themselves for a specific match-up. Awesome fun to watch. It also means that none of them can rest their banged up players. Good on the Spurs for starting the season so strong, maintaining throughout, and clinching tie-breakers vs the Mavs and Thunder.
- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
kobe’s dangerously close to getting a 1 game suspension for an additional tech too. hmm
by i luv this site on Apr 10, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
If he gets a tech in the finale, he serves his suspension next season opener right? I recall this happening to someone and the rule stating that a reg season suspension can only be served in the reg season.
- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
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I don’t post here often because I never know what to say, but I definitely enjoy the blog.
Anyway, isn’t the (realistic) ideal for the Lakers to finish in the #3 slot? I really, really want us to beat LAL, so that the Mavs can pass them up and get the #2 seed. This would mean that LAL has to play POR (most likely) in round 1 and OKC in round 2. I’m not sure I could think of two tougher teams for them (arguably, Denver).
(Obviously, Lakers at 4 is better because Nuggets are also very tough and, most importantly, they lose HCA against OKC, but I think they have to lose to both us and the Kings for that to happen so. . . not happening).
Also, I don’t know why you guys aren’t scared of Memphis. I certainly don’t expect the Spurs to lose to them, but they are a very good team with solid bigs and a great defense. The only easy out in this conference is New Orleans and I don’t think we are going to be the lucky ones to have the pleasure of dismissing them in 5.
(And ummm. . . sorry for the inordinate use of parentheses.)
I can live with 4, but Pop needs something to beach about.
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by the little o on Apr 11, 2011 2:03 AM CDT up reply actions
The physicality of Memphis is what scares most, I believe. I hope they don’t injure our players. As far as losing a series to them, not much, especially the Grizzlies are playing without Rudy Gay.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Apr 11, 2011 2:15 AM CDT up reply actions
What I don’t like about RJ’s role this season is how he has become a primarily 3 pt shooter, by design. I like it more when he mixes it up with nice cuts to the basket like he did last game. That said, although one may argue that he has regressed as the season’s progressed, I don’t think of him as a liability now, compared to last year. He just fits the team better this year and I do admire his professional attitude.
As for Tiago, he seems to have that same mentality that Manu has, of just doing whatever it takes to get a win. And I must say that as of late, good things happen when Tiago is on the floor.
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