The Spurs and The Beatles
Have you ever seen the movie Let it Be, the documentary about that Beatles album? It's ok if you haven't; it's pretty hard to find, and the surviving Beatles have chosen not to release it on DVD. That's probably just as well, because it's kind of a depressing movie if you're a Beatles fan. Everyone is getting pretty long in the tooth for a rock and roll band. None of the boyish enthusiasm of Hard Day's Night or Help! anywhere to be seen. It looks like real drudgery. They are all cranky with each other, brooding, and the sessions are a struggle. Nobody seems to be in sync. If you listen to the entire album today, you're likely to enjoy a hit or two, but find that many of the songs are uneven and forgettable. When it was recorded, nobody in the group was pleased with the results, and the project was shelved; perhaps never to be released. At that moment, the Beatles were out of gas. They had stopped doing live performances, they seemed to be falling apart, and they were making second-rate music. Most fans, journalists, and maybe even The Beatles themselves, believed the band was finished.
If, my dear reader, you have made it to paragraph two, you know where I'm heading with this: I'm a Beatles fan, and I am about to launch into a comparison of the Fab Four with your very own San Antonio Spurs. Like the Let it Be sessions, the last couple of seasons of Spurs basketball had many an observer, and even some loyal fans, thinking that the dream was over. But after a brief hiatus, Ringo, Paul, George and John decided to give it one more go. They gathered in London in their familiar studio and gave the reigns to longtime producer George Martin. They got back to basics. They all had songs to contribute, and they all worked hard to complement each other's compositions. Turns out these guys weren't quite done after all. They had one album left in them: a masterpiece. They weren't young anymore, and maybe they could see the end in sight, but they were still The Beatles. And they were still capable of doing what they did, together, better than just about anybody else. That's why the Beatles didn't end with a whimper, but with a bang of proverbial proportions: an album called Abbey Road.
by transgojobot
All Together Now
One great thing about Abbey Road is that there is no lead performer. The days of McCartney or Lennon acting as bandleader were over. By then, every Beatle had become a fine songwriter in his own right, even Ringo! That sounds a lot like this season's Spurs. Gone are the days when seventy percent of the plays run through Tim Duncan. This year's team is, undoubtedly, the most balanced one ever. No team in the history of the franchise shares the load like this team. To date, eight different Spurs have lead the team in scoring, and nobody averages over seventeen points a game. Timmy, great as he still is, does not have to carry that weight any more. Its success through balance and collaboration. Next time you see a beautifully run play with pinpoint passing and cutting that ends with a lay-up, consider listening to Because. Those are some fine vocal harmonies there, with no one taking the lead. Why are these Spurs so good? Perhaps the answer is buried in the the way Harrison plays the chords of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata backwards on the Moog synthesizer as the only instrumentation in Because.
Sometimes when I listen to Abbey Road, I try to ignore all that great synchronous collaboration and just focus on one musician's contributions. For example, one time through I will try to only listen to Ringo's utterly unique drumming. Next time, I'll focus on George's polished guitar solos or listen intently to Paul's incredible work on the bass. It's kind of hard to maintain this focus, because the album just begs to be listened to in a more holistic way. But it is a great way to appreciate the skill and energy that each Beatle brings, as an artist and as a bandmate. Try this yourself during a Spurs game. Record the game while you watch it live, appreciating the gorgeous team play. When this team is in sync, it's a thing of beauty. Then watch the replay, and just keep your eyes on, say, Richard Jefferson, and focus on all the things he contributes, most of which never shows up in the box score. It really makes you appreciate the wonders of individual brilliance in the service of team harmony.
by transgojobot
Hard to Pin Down
Just why is this team so good this season? The answer defies easy explanation. For years we have grown used to the games in which Duncan looks like he isn't really doing anything outstanding, until you glance at the box score and realize he somehow got yet another double double. How did he sneak up on me again? I should know better. This season, it's not only Duncan who has these quiet nightly wonders; it's the entire Spurs team. They're making a habit of sharing the scoring, delivering very few plays that would raise anyone's eyebrows on the highlight reel, and... winning by ten. To really appreciate these Spurs, I am trying to learn to take the long view. A highlight, a big game, a streak, a "statement" win. None of these things really tell you how good this team is. You have to try to look at the entire game, at the entire season, to appreciate their body of work over the course of these seventy games and counting. And likewise, if you approach Abbey Road looking for hits, it's just the wrong approach. The greatness of the album is that it truly is an album. The songs are not really meant to be heard in isolation. Heck, you can't even listen to Abbey Road on shuffle because most of the songs flow right into the next song. It really requires you to set aside an hour and listen from beginning to end. I think this year's Spurs are also best appreciated in this way. They're a great album, so much more than a collection of hit singles.
The Same, But Different
Abbey Road is unmistakeably a Beatles album, but it's different. Everything seems so tightly structured, so perfectly pieced together. They were strictly a studio band by then, and they were highly experienced, accomplished musicians. There is a refined quality to every moment on the album; all the layers of sound carefully placed like a thousand piece puzzle. Most of the songs on side two are really just snippets of unfinished songs, but the Beatles and George Martin somehow weave all of these pieces together into something at once intricate and solid. Every second of this album... fits. Watching the Spurs at their best this season, especially on offense, I get this same sense of a carefully constructed machine. Every little layer and piece is in place, and just where it needs to be. If these musicians and athletes were not such artists, this would almost be boring. But the results are so beautifully composed and executed that it is riveting to experience it.
But this musical precision came with a trade-off. The Beatles had been a great live act, but by the time they recorded Abbey Road, they had abandoned the road, and now only played in the recording studio. I have to say that the Spurs have made a similar transformation. San Antonio used to play bruising, relentless defense night in and night out. Like a great live band that has honed its sound in dives and bars, the Spurs had those suffocating defensive chops that could always be counted on against any opponent and in the biggest of games. But this Spurs team is winning in a different way. For a lot of us long-time fans, this is hard to swallow. Hey, plenty of Beatles fans got fed up with the band when it quit touring. A real rock band has to play live and loud, they felt. I am probably equally dogmatic in my stance on basketball: defense wins championships. Maybe I'm just kidding myself and being a fanboy, but I have to say this season has planted some doubt for me regarding that old truism. Should we dismiss Abbey Road because the Beatles were by then only a studio band? Should we dismiss the Spurs' season because they aren't tops in defense?
by transgojobot
All the Way to Her Majesty
Right now, if the Spurs' season is Abbey Road, we're just about to "Mean Mr. Mustard", or maybe "Polythene Pam". We're in the middle of a disorienting but somehow beautiful medley, and we really can't tell if all this sound and fury will end up in a satisfying way. Will it all come together? Will it fall apart in failure? Personally, I've decided that I just don't know. Like the Beatles in 1969, the Spurs are in completely uncharted territory for them. Those championships are in the distant past, as relevant as Sgt. Pepper's or Rubber Soul must have been to John, Paul, George and Ringo as they gathered together throughout the last July of the Sixties. Great achievements, and surely a source of pride, but too far in the past to matter much for the present. What that band and this team share is greatness, along with uncertainty. What I have decided is, I'm going to embrace that uncertainty, too. You can't appreciate Abbey Road if your ears are only prepared to hear Revolver. You need to soak in its greatness to be open to hearing it for what it is; a work of four men whose band had evolved into something far different from the collection of mop-toppers they'd been when recording Please Please Me. To fully appreciate the album, you're going to have to stop believing in yesterday. For these Spurs, I am trying to adjust to a different kind of greatness. Tim, Manu, Tony and Pop, those Spurs that have won titles in the past, maybe it's the uncertainty of this journey that keeps them pressing on for a new kind of greatness with this team. We did it that way, and we did it better than anybody. Can we do it this way? They don't know the answer yet, and neither do any of us.
I was a little boy when the Beatles broke up, too young yet to appreciate what they meant. Abbey Road has been around for nearly my entire life, and I have listened to this record countless times, but always in the aftermath of the band: after the end. I try to imagine what it must have been like for a Beatles fan in 1969, before the end, someone who perhaps had lost hope that there was anything more to be heard from them... What it must have been like to buy that record, not knowing what to expect. Rushing home to the turntable, sliding the vinyl album with green apple core label from out of its jacket -- that photograph of the four Beatles sullenly strolling, dressed haphazardly but in perfect unison, across an empty Abbey Road crosswalk... What it must have been like to listen to that album for the first time. However it ends, this season for the Spurs is already superb, a magnificent twilight masterpiece. Conscious of this, I am determined to set aside the past glories, and continue to be as open as I can be to what makes this season truly special.
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Oh, good Lord, quincy and transgojobot. Take all of my recs.

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by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Mar 29, 2011 11:23 PM CDT reply actions
Awesome writing. (I would mention an anecdote about Mrs. Top and the Beatles, but then jrw would be on me to write a story about it, so I won’t.) This analogy is pure genius.
"Do something stupid and you’re going to regret it but, for God’s sake, don’t stand there and do nothing at all." - hirschof
by the old photog on Mar 29, 2011 11:36 PM CDT reply actions
You don’t have to write anything you don’t want to write, Tog.
But you DO want to write it, now. Don’t you?
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I cannot wait for the sixth fifth. - LasEspuelas
Get him, jolly:) Pretty pleeeeeease, top?
Honestly. You kids today, with your hippity-hop music and your Twiddle. - Lauri
I haven’t figured out how to tie it into a PtR theme much less come anywhere close to something at qs’s level of writing here. I threw it in as a passing thought after first reading this. In many ways, the Beatles were to Mrs. Top what the Spurs have been to me. She and I haven’t talked about it in ages. We were both teenagers when the Beatles came on the scene.
"Do something stupid and you’re going to regret it but, for God’s sake, don’t stand there and do nothing at all." - hirschof
by the old photog on Mar 30, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I may be wrong, but it doesn’t have to be themed in any way. As long as you don’t use PtR as a blog (which, you wont), it should be ok.
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by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Mar 30, 2011 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay, the wheel… [is] turning (I know that’s from Journey not the Beatles). I’m an ol’ codger that’s still learning my way around the blogosphere. I shared a link to qs’s post with Mrs. Top. She is working major overtime this week, but the opening paragraph has her hooked and will read the entire post when she can catch her breath. I can’t wait to hear her complete reaction and, unless it is unprintable which I doubt, will come up with some kind of post. All I’ll say for now is that she was there when the Beatles were happening.
"Do something stupid and you’re going to regret it but, for God’s sake, don’t stand there and do nothing at all." - hirschof
by the old photog on Mar 30, 2011 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Please let Mrs. Top know that I’m waiting with bated breath for her reaction and response.
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When you’re not trying to tear apart the fabric of society, you’re pretty cool. -Hipuks
Holy wow, this is the Abbey Road of PtR posts. Just a brillian piece, quincy. I was wondering the other day what happened to this idea and it’s great you kept on working at it. Great work too, transgo — that last ’chop of Timmy and Manu is just pure gold.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Mar 30, 2011 1:12 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
what a positive note, great chops & wild thoughts
by cojones2thewall on Mar 30, 2011 1:27 AM CDT reply actions
OH MY GOD!!! I too am a huge Beatles fan. The fact that you managed to combine two of my favorite things in the whole wide world is amazing and I am really jealous of your talent and ability to do so. If you could have somehow managed to include Hot Tamales in this post I think I would have fainted on the spot.
Well done, gentlemen, well done.
I never take the high road, but I tell other people to, that way there is more room for me on the low road.
transgo, amazine
quincy, brillian
Thanks so much for combining for such a great piece.
JTU’s for both of you.
Pounding the Rock
I cannot wait for the sixth fifth. - LasEspuelas
Oh! Darling, this is freaking great. You made everything Come Together so perfectly—Something in the way you made it both a story AND analysis moves me. When we reach The End of the season, this is the piece I’m going to remember, so… Um… I Want You.
Thanks so much, Your Majesty. That’s so heavy.
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by quincyscott on Mar 30, 2011 7:36 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Hate to be this guy, but Let it be was the final Beatles album. Abbey Road was the second last. Geez, for a bunch of Beatles fans you guys certainly are clueless.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_it_be
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbey_Road
by Let it Hab on Mar 30, 2011 8:00 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
No.
The main recording sessions for Let It Be (then known as Get Back) were at the beginning of 1969. It was also during this time that the Beatles gave their final concert on the rooftop. The even worked on many of the songs that would appear later on Abbey Road.
AR was recorded in SEPTEMBER 1969, but was released before LIB because, like QS says, the Beatles weren’t happy with it. Eventually, the album that WAS released was almost entirely recorded live, including tracks from that rooftop concert and the documentary film. So very little new recording was actually done, and the album was finally released in 1970, only after the tapes had been given to Phil Spector to re-produce, and after John had already essentially left the band to pursue solo projects.
Maybe read the articles you’re linking to next time:
After the near-disastrous sessions for the proposed Get Back album (later retitled Let It Be) Paul McCartney suggested to Martin the group get together and make an album “the way we used to”4 free of the conflict that began with the sessions for The White Album.
Most of the album was recorded between 2 July and 1 August 1969. After the album was finished and released, the Get Back/Let It Be project was re-examined. More work was done on the album, including the recording of additional music (see Let It Be). Thus, though the bulk of Let It Be was recorded prior to Abbey Road, the latter was released first, and Abbey Road was the last album properly started by The Beatles before they disbanded.Welcome to PtR, by the way. Assuming you’re not a troll, considering this is the only comment you’ve made.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Mar 30, 2011 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Pwned. Or should I say, “Jimmered”.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Mar 30, 2011 9:38 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

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by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Mar 30, 2011 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
There’s nothing so funny to me, from a comedy standpoint, than someone being so adamant yet so wrong. I love it. Please post more of these. Lots of incorrect information presented in an insulting manner.
I think maybe he doesn’t hate being “that guy.”
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When you’re not trying to tear apart the fabric of society, you’re pretty cool. -Hipuks
Yes, but Let it Be was recorded first. They released it after because they weren’t happy with it. Abbey Road is the last recording session.
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by quincyscott on Mar 30, 2011 8:38 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
GOL, who is this guy? He has to be one of the regulars making a joke.
"He's the ultimate zone buster." – Bill Land on Gary Neal
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Mar 30, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Nope. Looks like account was created for this comment…
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Mar 30, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
I noticed that. I meant that maybe someone around here looks around suspiciously created the account for this joke.
"He's the ultimate zone buster." – Bill Land on Gary Neal
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Mar 30, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Vera nize.
Not a huge Beatles fan, just because I’ve never gotten into them not for any other reason, but this was really good. Makes me want to check ’em out. :)
Great analogy, great article! Abbey Road is definitely my favorite Beatles album.
The ’shops are funny and some are a bit creepy. Good job, transgojo.
"He's the ultimate zone buster." – Bill Land on Gary Neal
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Mar 30, 2011 9:34 AM CDT reply actions
Sigh
First off, great post- this is up there with SB&D’s recaps and flaming chickens (and frenchmen, Hipuks, I didn’t forget about you) in the “great posts of PtR” for the season. It is a wonderful comparison, but I take issue, sir, with the continued notion that the Spurs don’t play defense.
My lies and damn statistics tell me, that according to hoopdata, we’re still a top 10 defensive team in defensive efficiency, and that prior to Duncan going down, we were damn close to top 5. In fact, if my memory is right, in the minutes with Duncan on the floor, we’re a top THREE defensive team, behind only Chicago and Boston.
Some people, for some silly, unknown, ignorant reason, like to use stats other than defensive efficiency- ok. That’s fine. let’s compare the effective fg%. This year: 48.76 In 06/07 when we had the second best defense in the league: 47.10. Even if you look at the basic fg%, 06/07- 44.3, this year: 45.3 (still top 10).
Some people don’t like to use stats at all, but I’m going to bite my tongue at them. They can use their eyeball test all they want, and hem and haw about how our defense “looks” horrible. And sometimes it does. But there have always been times our team forgot to play defense- even when we had our “twin towers” we occasionally gave up 120+ points in a game. It’s more frequent now, no doubt. But the “we don’t play defense” sentiment is overblown.
I hate to ruin this post with this comment, because you deserve nothing but praise for it (seriously), but I’m so tired of hearing the statistically incorrect notion that the Spurs defense has dramatically dropped. The biggest difference between this year and years past is the bench bigs- instead of Nazr/Rasho/Willis we’ve got Bonner and Novak and Blair.
I’m not sure where I could find splits like this, but I’d make an educated guess and say that our starting 5 is one of the best in the league defensively now that Dyess is starting and was probably still top 7 or 8 with Blair starting. Is it “relentless and bruising”, as you referred to our old defense? No. We have changed. I’m not arguing that point. But the change hasn’t been transformational, we aren’t a completely different team either philosophically or in reality.
Free Steve Novak
You’re completely right. Zach Lowe over at Point Forward pointed that out recently. With Duncan on the floor we are decimal points away from Boston in defensive efficiency. That’s pretty incredible.
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on Mar 30, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Good points, SfS, but I think you need to pay more attention to Wayne’s sig:
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Mar 30, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
You have to give him a break. Wayne hasn’t been around for AGES
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on Mar 31, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Who’s Wayne again?
Pounding the Rock
When you’re not trying to tear apart the fabric of society, you’re pretty cool. -Hipuks
Also, just because you can’t tell that he’s been around, doesn’t mean that he hasn’t been around, if you know what I mean.
Pounding the Rock
When you’re not trying to tear apart the fabric of society, you’re pretty cool. -Hipuks
Yeah, but I know Wayne, in a strictly platonic sense.
Also, I did at least refer to them as “damn statistics”
Free Steve Novak
by SpursfanSteve on Mar 31, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I hate the Beatles. I thoroughly enjoyed your post though, and I love the comparisons.
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on Mar 30, 2011 11:46 AM CDT reply actions
Salud.
The Abbey Road cover is arguably one of the most parodied album images over the last four decades (all time? Pink Floyd’s Dark Side?). So, the pressure was already “pre-loaded” there to not allow this one be a clunker; I couldn’t mavsfan this. If that weren’t enough, quincyscott’s fabulosso article galvanized me to ‘chop photos of the album’s recording session; thank, google, I could find them.
Anyway, I appreciate the comments from all—-thank-you—-but I feel like I have a waaaays to go to get where I want to be skill-wise with image fiddling. But the great articles and pithy comments on this blog help me stay “toned-up”. ::flexes::
I love the Spurs, yeah, yeah, yeah…
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by eastbaysd on Mar 30, 2011 4:46 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Q, this was magnificent piece of writing. Even though I’m not a big Beatles fan, I’m in awe that you were able to fuse together two loves from different genres. Bravo!
And transgo, your chops are fantabulous!
I do not want people to be agreeable, as it saves me the trouble of liking them. - Jane Austen
I loved this post, I really do, and the chop were pretty darn good. Really. You have my recs, and my thanks.
But I can’t believe you think Let It Be was that bad. I’m the biggest fan of Abbey Road, but I can still appreciate Let It Be, both in its Spector and non-Spect versions. The Long and Winding Road? Get Back? Across the Universe? Hell, even though I’m tired of it, Let It Be? I really enjoy all of it, in its own right.
I love “Get Back” and “Across the Universe.” Its a good album, but was a disappointment following Sgt Peppers and the White Album. Most people think it doesn’t measure up to those lofty standards.
But this all completely subjective, isn’t it?
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by quincyscott on Mar 30, 2011 8:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Probably. But you can live with that, right?
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by quincyscott on Mar 30, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Naw, it’s not everyone’s cup of tea.
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by quincyscott on Mar 30, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, consider yourself lucky. My third personality was busy at the time.
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by quincyscott on Mar 30, 2011 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m a big “Two of Us” and “Dig a Pony” fan, myself. Abbey Road is my favorite record, but my favorite songs are on The White Album.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Mar 30, 2011 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
It’s eerie. It really, really is.
Pounding the Rock
When you’re not trying to tear apart the fabric of society, you’re pretty cool. -Hipuks
Ok, now you’re freaking ME out. Do you know my future? Tell me my future!
by DrumsInTheDeep on Mar 31, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I know a small bit of your future:
Soon, you will go to see The Adjustment Bureau. And you will like it.
You will like it very much.
Pounding the Rock
When you’re not trying to tear apart the fabric of society, you’re pretty cool. -Hipuks
I saw it a few weeks ago. Hmph.
I did like it, though.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Mar 31, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, that’s right. I see that inflection point now.
Pounding the Rock
When you’re not trying to tear apart the fabric of society, you’re pretty cool. -Hipuks
I liked it and then I was disappointed in the ending.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. ~ CMoney
I am happy. I am proud. ~ Manu Ginobili
I can understand that. I personally liked the “what happens now” ending b/c everything had seemed so predetermined up to that point, with the deck stacked against them.
But I could see where people could hate it for a number of reasons. Makes me wonder how I’ll feel during a second viewing.
Pounding the Rock
When you’re not trying to tear apart the fabric of society, you’re pretty cool. -Hipuks
Thanks for checking back, Let it Hab. It’s appreciated and shows your class.
Welcome, to PtR.
Pounding the Rock
When you’re not trying to tear apart the fabric of society, you’re pretty cool. -Hipuks
Very nice, Quince.
Although I would say Pop is George Martin… the 5th Beatle. The architect behind the sound.
Timmy is Paul, Manu is John, Tony is George and Enter Name Here is Ringo. :)
Well done.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. ~ CMoney
I am happy. I am proud. ~ Manu Ginobili
Blair as Ringo?
Wondering if he’s good enough to belong; whether he’s riding the coattails of success or contributing. Slowly building his skill set and finally holding his own among a group of geniuses. (Final ending yet to be written, of course.)
Pounding the Rock
When you’re not trying to tear apart the fabric of society, you’re pretty cool. -Hipuks
I like Neal as Ringo, and RoMaJu as Pete Best.
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