At Kings Recap: Tiago With No Regard For Human Life
When given a choice of games to recap, I chose the Kings. It was a Friday, which meant that I might actually harness the fortitude to stay fully awake throughout a West coast game, and I would have my Saturday to write a lengthy recap. Well, you know what? This game didn't deserve a lengthy recap. It. Was. So. Boring. I should simply 'chop an image of Tiago bursting up through a pile of Kings players, and start up Black Ops. But PTR recap duty is like the Foreign Legion, so let's see how many ways I can think of to describe this utter annihilation of anything purple.
To Be Expected
Much has been said about the recent Purple Surge. Wins against the lazy Lakers, the streaky Hornets and a close game against the powerhouse Celtics were enough to get everyone's attention. "We're really starting to believe." DeMarcus Cousins dixit. I wonder how much they believe after last night's game, in which the Spurs dismantled them in the first quarter and they hit the snooze button, let the minutes go by and when the time was right, threw Chris Quinn out there to add insult to injury.
The rookie Cousins was one of the biggest reasons for the Purple Surge. Having watched him play only a couple of times, he strikes me as a heavy-duty type player. Good rebounder, good balance that helps him to draw fouls and get to the rim despite the average athleticism, and a clever passer in the post. His shooting percentages almost blinded me, though, and last night he was dominated by the Spurs forwards.
Beyonds Cousins, the Kings are a series of tragedies. Tragedy #1: Beno. There are still stretches when he does something so brilliant that I almost start reminiscing about his black-and-white games, a zipping bounce pass on the fast break, a smooth cross-over, a sweet PUJIT as Ziller and jolly discussed. But then I see the lack of hustle, the long stretches of nothingness, the utter blandness of his game, and I remember it's all a trap. He will always be the MySpace wonder. Tragedy #2? Evans. Or more to the point, his MVP in the Rookie-vs-Sophomores game over Blair. What number could Blair put up if he was given free reign to shoot? Meanwhile, Evans practiced his matador defense against Tony, and seemed to believe screens were impenetrable force barriers.
And yet what really hurts me is Tragedy #3, Omri Casspi. How good would he be in the Spurs system? High-flying, lank, agile shooting forward that could've been part of the next generation Spurs that we can sometimes guess in that long, deep bench of ours. I was unashamedly in love with his game last season, but bad basketball breeds bad habits. It might never be, and all I will be left with is a bunch of a what-ifs - and Anderson.
We were better than this guys. All that was left was to prove it.
And Then We Won
The only doubts about the outcome of this game stemmed from its dreaded SEGABABA status and from the possible lackadaisical play after the previous night's emotional high. It wouldn't be beyond the Spurs we know the start the game slow and play down to their opponent's level. Quite the opposite, in fact. Behind Tony's penetration and RJ's shooting, the Spurs started on a 12-2 run that set the pace for the rest of the game. Evans and Udrih were unable to stay in front (or to the side) of our guards, and RJ's stroke has regained its first-20-games form. Hill joined in the fun, and even Splitter a minute later. With Manu at the helm, the bench finished the first quarter with a 7-1 run and started the second with a 15-3 run. 24-point lead, and that was it. Game over.
I'm left with a number of heart-warming impressions. There was an unlikely sequence of plays involving RJ that put a smile in my face. During a fast break with Tony, with the hoop wide open for a mind-blowing dunk, RJ finished instead with a boring no-flash layup. Then, on his end, he provided good defense and a beast-like rebound, threw a bad pass to a running Tony that was stolen, and then set his feet in an unsuccessful attempt to draw a charge. Later on, he fell to the ground after tripping on a cameramen and took down Casspi with him. The Kings player stood up without changing expressions. RJ laughed, laid down on the floor and brought a smile to the Kings fans around him. RJ 2.5, ladies and gentlemen.
I've said it before, I'll stay it again: Hill is Manu. Manu-like. Manuish. Manuminus. He's a guy who at this point I trust implicitly to do something positive for the team. Defense, offense, an important three or a drive to the basket. He's got the tools and, more importantly, he is able to use them in high-pressure situations, where points are difficult to come by. Wayne called him once "another guy that will make a play when you most need it", and he couldn't have been more right. And at the time, we still have the original Manu, to boot. Last night's rotation had him as the first started that went to the bench, and playing most of his minutes as the brain of the second unit. It's very similar to his role as a 6th-man-that-finishes-the-game, but with 5 minutes at the start of the game to punch first and punch hard.
I have to thank the Kings. They were so soft, Pop decided it was time to let the Tiago out. He didn't disappoint.
The Future Is Not Now, But Soon
I'm not a believer. Tiago is right now only a ridiculous-upside bench-warmer, who will be lucky if he gets a few minutes of playoffs time in the odd blowout. As soon as the River Parade is over, he needs to hit the gym, have some of those magical "supplements" I bet NBA players are fed regularly, and gain some 10 kilos (20 pounds, furriners) of muscle. He's easily pushed away from the basket on the offensive end of the floor, especially when he tries his hook shot. Then he needs to kidnap Chip and find a jumper within himself.
Yet games like last night's fill me with starry-eyed hope for the rose-tinted future. His foot movement and defensive BIQ are impressive, and when given the chance to shake off his initial offensive jitters, he can be efficient scorer (7-8 FG last night). What really excites me, though, is the possibility of someday seeing the Tiaglair. Or the Blaigo. The Spurs' two-headed monster, the 21st century version of the Twin Towers, veterans of a thousand battles and a 4-5 unit that's larger than the sum of its parts.
Can you see it? How they could complement each other? Tiago's height could cover the holes Blair's feisty but limited defense will leave, and Blair's quick hands will bother faster players and rack up the steals. Tiago's hook shows more promise than Blair's Bonner-like shyhook, but Blair will eventually be able to knock down those smooth jumpers he teases us with, and Tiago won't. DeJuan is a wonderful, gifted passer, and Tiago has good hands to grab them and finish the plays. (At one point last night, Blair's first pass was deflected, so he proceeded the _tap_ the contested ball hard away from Casspi and right into Tony's hands. Wow.) Blair rebounds, Tiago blocks. In my fantasies, long-range bank-shooter Blair will play away from the basket at the start of the play, like a mini-Duncan, versatile and passing out to cutting shooters, and Tiago will anchor our defense. A true 4, a true 5. And they will make all their FTs, and they will LOL and glitter and push us towards ring number 7, the last in Manu's long and glorious career. Sniff.
Your Stars
3rd. Manu. Sorry, RJ, but good things kept happening when this guy walked into the game. His mastery of the second unit was a sight to behold.
2nd. Tiago. You deserved that double-double, Brazilian Banana Boy.
1st. Tony. I wanted to call him selfish, but somehow he has 7 assists. I hate stats.
F*** It

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I like the Photo of Tiago and the heat ray eyes. I personally think you should have given RJ his props on this game because Manu is always gonna get more shine and huge games than RJ, so when RJ does come through don’t skimp on the star love.
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by gunnin' gervin on Feb 5, 2011 2:20 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
+1
Give some love for RJ. But he ruined Tiago’s career night though.
"Panatalihin bayuhan ang bato!"
by Ayatollah on Feb 5, 2011 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He’s right guys. I thought plenty of love went RJ’s way here.
"Entropy isn't what it used to be."
by oldtimeyspurfan on Feb 5, 2011 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
yeah yeah yeah yeah – Great job here Latin D! I really liked it.
"Entropy isn't what it used to be."
by oldtimeyspurfan on Feb 5, 2011 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
Love?
you gave a reason why RJ wasn’t one of the 3 stars when he should’ve been. If that is love then I don’t want to see hate. LOL. But for real though I understand your logic for giving the third star to Manu but being totally honest Manu didn’t play Manu type ball against the Kings and RJ was more deserving of the third star that game. Manu is going to get props way more than RJ so when RJ does well I think it is logical to not short change the guy. Just remember next game the Spurs plays if RJ does bad and looks not interested in the game it is because he can’t get his just due on the best Spurs site on the inter webs. LOL
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Feb 5, 2011 7:01 PM CST up reply actions
And they will make all their FTs, and they will LOL and glitter and push us towards ring number 7, the last in Manu’s long and glorious career.
I just got chills, you magnificent bastard.
I want this to happen so badly. Let them develop, add a stretch four in the Casspi/Bonner mode and good things will come.
What I like the most about Splitter is he’s good from a technical standpoint. He has a few moves and shots that not many big men come into the league with.
Asked before the game how Parker has looked, Popovich said, "He’s still cute. "
Beno looks a little too happy to be getting crushed by Ultiago.
[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]
"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said
Beno looks more like he’s checking him out.
"It's hard to see all my teammates working hard and have to sit there and watch the games." "Of course, the massages are nice." ~Tiago Splitter
You pretty much summed up my feelings about the future of our front court. I’d say more, but you already said everything that needs to be said. They complement each other beautifully.
It's in the dictionary under D-E-F-E-N-S-E...I may be wrong, I may be wrong, I may be wrong, I may be may be may be wrong, but I doubt it.
I think we are going to see more and more of Splitter from this point on. I really do. Come playoff time, I think he will be a significant part of the rotation.
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Maybe so but who do you think is going to lose minutes in the big guys rotation? Tiago is getting so many minutes now because of Bonner being injured. I think once Tiago figures out what constitutes a foul in the NBA he is going to be a decent player.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Feb 5, 2011 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
Pop will probably try and get Dice and Duncan a period of more rest if he can depend on Tiago to hold steady. Bonner would continue to get his minutes.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
In the regular season I agree with your statement but he stated that he thinks Tiago will be a significant part of the playoff rotation as well and I don’t see Pop resting Timmy and Dyess a lot in the playoffs unless we are blowing people out or dominating the games.
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by gunnin' gervin on Feb 5, 2011 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
I think it will depend on match-ups. I could see Tiago getting some end of quarter or start of 2Q minutes against players/schemes that he has had some success in the regular season. Where Pop sees opportunity will come from how Tiago plays in the final 32 games. I think we should note how many minutes and how well be plays when going up against Memphis (3 games), Portland (2 games), Utah (1 game) and Denver (1 game) these final two months as all of those teams are possible 1st round opponents. OKC and NOLA are most likely 2nd round opponents but only one total games remains against them (home vs OKC).
- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
- I vow to never again mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together until we have a "quarterback."
- You gotta bring ass to get ass.
It might be good to cut RJ’s minutes as a big. I’d think one set of players would get the majority of minutes in one game of a back-to-back while the other pick up more minutes in the second game. The current averages for minutes per game are TD 29, Blair 22, Bonner 22, McDyess 18 and Tiago 11 (his being in fewer games). That adds up to 102, which is 6 over the 96 minutes two bigs would normally play. I’d think when they are all healthy, to try to get Tiago 10 mpg by taking one minute away from all the others other than two from Dice. That of course is an average, and Tiago seems likely to still sit out some games while playing big minutes in others while Tim and Dice rest.
I think if Anderson gets back a little bit more, RJ’s minutes will drop off more.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Though I was referring specifically to the minutes RJ plays as the 4 position. I wouldn’t want to play Anderson as a 4 either.
There’s a report out of Tulsa that Owens has rejoined the team. I haven’t seen anything where the Spurs announce that they have not re-signed him.
Well RJ as a 4 is pretty good, so it’s a nice option. I prefer it over a lot of Dice at this point, but missing Bonner is definitely leaving a hole for rest.
Owens – I would assume he’s been let go based off of that.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
I think Pop will be allocating minutes based on what’s needed versus a particular opponent, so more Bonner when small ball is called for, more Dice and Splitter against teams with a lot of size. But I think the days of not playing Splitter because if his inexperience, lack of systemic knowledge, etc., are behind us. And the one guy whose minutes I would want to be limiting right now, in addition to Duncan’s, is McDyess.
I think Pop has to have more confidence that Splitter can come into the game, defend well, get rebounds, not mess up what’s happening on offense. He’s shown he can hold his own in games. Sure, there’s a breakdown here or there, but that can be said of Blair, too. Those two guys are going to need a lot of pulling aside and coaching. But they are both starting to blossom, and the have different skill sets.
I am getting very excited about the depth and flexibility of our front line. If we
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by quincyscott on Feb 6, 2011 8:45 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Was trying to say… If we meet the Lakers or Celtics in the playoffs, we are going to need contributions from all of these guys.
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by quincyscott on Feb 6, 2011 8:48 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
1st. Tony. I wanted to call him selfish, but somehow he has 7 assists. I hate stats.
Tony and RJ basically put the game out of reach. That was important on a 2nd game of back to back. I wanted him to be selfish as no one could stop him. Thus Manu and Duncan didn’t have to work hard at all.
I’ve said it before, I’ll stay it again: Hill is Manu. Manu-like. Manuish. Manuminus.
Except for the passing part. He’s not a passer. He has had moments of a good pass, but his passing leaves a lot to be desired still, especially off the screen and rolls.
Last night’s rotation had him as the first started that went to the bench, and playing most of his minutes as the brain of the second unit. It’s very similar to his role as a 6th-man-that-finishes-the-game, but with 5 minutes at the start of the game to punch first and punch hard.
This isn’t new. Pop subs Manu out first nearly every game (except when Blair has a crappy game). He’s done this because Spurs don’t really have a backup point guard. If he’s not first, he’s out near the 8-7 minute mark with Hill coming in.
This allows Pop to bring Manu back in when Tony goes out. It’s the only way Pop is able to limit Manu’s minutes and keep a top notch ball handler in the game at all times for the most part.
Honestly, from this perspective, Hill should start even though Manu deserves to start. Pop could probably shave off an extra minute or two on Manu’s minutes if he weren’t starting.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Oh and RJ should have made the top 3. Manu is almost always in the top 3 on the team of the +/-, so I don’t think that is a fair enough argument. Heck, he’s at the top of the league ion +/-.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
All i really wanted was for RJ to win a place in your heart. Maybe, someday I will too!
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
You have one already, grego. You have one.
by LatinD on Feb 5, 2011 11:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i’m still trying to figure out what happened to league pass when it went all smurf-like. it was like the red and blue colour channels were swapped.
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matt bonner 4 MVP!
by sleep research facility on Feb 5, 2011 8:38 PM CST reply actions
This must’ve happened live because the replay was fine at 3AM EST. Although, it started three minutes into the first quarter. Weird.
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by transgojobot on Feb 6, 2011 12:21 AM CST up reply actions
Watching the replay, I was wondering whether the VGA settings in my computer was messing around with me. Glad to know I wasn’t alone.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Feb 6, 2011 5:32 AM CST up reply actions
interesting thing was, i was watching the lakers/nooch game today (live), and the same thing happened during that game. so theres obviously some recurring issue…
oh, and happy birthday for yesterday brother!
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matt bonner 4 MVP!
by sleep research facility on Feb 6, 2011 6:12 AM CST up reply actions
Damn ninjas have invaded ILP.
Thanks, mah brother from the same Asia-Pacific region!
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Feb 6, 2011 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
You. Are. Magical.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Feb 5, 2011 9:32 PM CST reply actions
Most excellent, LD. I’m sad that you didn’t get to recap an epic game and instead this pile of crap fell onto your lap. Maybe next time, young whippersnapper.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Feb 6, 2011 5:33 AM CST reply actions
G Hill has definitely stepped up at the right moments this season (in the past as well, but even more now). But he doesn’t have Manu’s court vision and ability to create for others. Yet. Right now, when he starts his drive, it usually means he wants to score. Whereas Manu would have that uncanny ability of finding an open guy and knowing exactly where his teammates would be when his pass reaches them. But there have been moments when his decision-making has impressed me. He just needs to not overthink it.
He's Manu Ginobili
Well, I didn’t mean in the passing vision sense, no. I meant in his uncanny ability to give us what we need, when we need it.
That’s true. And the chilling thing (in a good way) about it is, it’s usually unannounced. Maybe because we’re used to Manu or any one of the Big 3 being the guy. But sometimes Hill just comes out of nowhere and comes up with gold without doing anything flashy. We had that guy before, like 8 yrs ago. And he’s still there. =D
But one other thing: I don’t think Hill will ever match Manu’s craziness.
He's Manu Ginobili
by carina_gino20 on Feb 7, 2011 5:39 AM CST up reply actions
I think I’m happiest about the fact that no one realized that Tiago’s original uniform in the base pic wasn’t the Spurs’.
What, huh? Those are the real eyes of the Kings players though, right?
"Entropy isn't what it used to be."
by oldtimeyspurfan on Feb 6, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
It was truly great to see him get some time to play on Friday.
"Entropy isn't what it used to be."
by oldtimeyspurfan on Feb 6, 2011 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
On defense it seems that he is OK .. He draw a charge agains bynum the last game ..
The problem with tiago is that he just cant understand the offense … and he knows what to do .. but he doesnt know when is the exactly moment .. like the screens
And its a problem because
He plays like that because he doesnt have enough playing time and he is not going to have more playing time if he doesnt play well .. and to be honest i dont expect Tiago .. playing in the playoffs .. maybe if Duncan has 3 fouls in the first half or something like that
Fun recap, LD, though I wouldn’t call the game boring. The level of effeciency our guys had on offense made for smooth viewing. The behind the back assist from Manu to Hill, plus the spectacular bounce pass to Tony were all season-recap highlight worthy. Add in useful minutes for Tiago and the 3Q surge by Duncan and I had a blast. That it all took place less than 24-hours after breaking the Lakers made for a nice dessert following the entree.
And as mentioned in the game thread, the Kings’ announcers made for good viewing with their deep appreciation for Spurs ball and specifically Pop.
- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
- I vow to never again mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together until we have a "quarterback."
- You gotta bring ass to get ass.
You’re right, Spurred, but I was referring to the complete lack of tension. The game was pretty much over after one quarter, and three quarters of garbage time can be tiresome, no matter how good the execution is.
Gotcha. You are correct, there was no tension. Quite the contrast to the prior night.
- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
- I vow to never again mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together until we have a "quarterback."
- You gotta bring ass to get ass.

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