Loyalty: A look why the Spurs have been successful for so long

by Jordan Leithart on Feb 25, 2011 11:38 AM CST

I was reading Bill Simmon's post trade article this morning and his section about Kendrick Perkins really stroke home with me:

You might remember LeBron and Carmelo getting excoriated for stabbing their respective teams in the back. You want to know why they didn't care? Because, deep down, they know teams don't care about players, either. They probably witnessed 20 variations of the Perkins trade during their first few years in the league. Hey, it's a business. Hey, that's just sports. Hey, trades come with the territory. Isn't loyalty a two-way street? When a team does what's best for itself, we call it smart. When a player does the same, we call him selfish. We never think what a double standard it is.

I thought Perk deserved better than getting blindsided in Denver, then having to limp around with a sprained knee and pack his stuff with tears rolling down his face. Maybe I'm a sap. But that was our guy. Family. On the phone, my dad decided -- completely serious -- that he would have rather lost the 2011 title with Perkins than try to win it without him. Why?

Perkins was drafted by the Celtics straight out of high school 8 years ago. The guy grew up with the Celtics. Can you imagine the Spurs trading away someone like that?

There have been many faces that have passed through the Spurs organization. Finley, Turkoglu, Malik Rose, to name a few. These players, with the exception of Malik, never endeared themselves to the fanbase and when they were traded/let go the team and fans understood that it was a necessity. But why are we talking about the Spurs in a trade season where so many people switched teams?

It's because of what sets the Spurs apart from every other team in the league. Loyalty. How many of us hated on RJ's contract last year? I'll be honest that I was one when I first heard about it. But, as Kelly Dwyer wrote the day after, "The Spurs did this guy a favor." How many teams would resign someone who failed to meet expectations so badly that even the most diehard fans couldn't find any more derogatory nicknames? The Spurs would after receiving RJ's word that he would retool himself over the off-season.

Manu Ginobili's contract, from a financial point of view, is a poor one. He is signed through 2013 and owed an average of about $12 million per year. Why did the Spurs re-sign him? Because they were loyal to him. I don't think there was any doubt that they would get a contract extension last year, and the FO overpaid him because they are loyal to their players.

Why do free agents want to come to San Antonio? Even despite Duncan's inevitable fall into mediocrity as his Caribbean wheels fall off, people still want to come play here. You'll never hear the front office writing a letter condemning a free agent for leaving. If a player wants a trade, the Spurs will do their best to trade or release him ala Michael Finley and RMJ. The whole organization is professional and has the ultimate family atmosphere. They do right by their fans and their players.

There are different types of families. There are ones that hang out with each other every single second of every single day (or at least claim to) and there are the ones that spend quality time together and make each other feel welcome and loved whether they see them every night, every week, or every 5 year reunion. Sean still has his head boxed by Timmy at halftime, the Admiral still shows up to games. No other team boasts the camaraderie between players for the past 20 years except our Spurs.

And THAT more than anything else is why the Spurs work so hard. Because when an employee knows that his boss has his back. When he knows he won't get blindsided by a trade, he knows he can give everything to the organization and be rewarded for it.

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I love my Spurs but lets be real about the thing here. They are not much different than any other team when it comes to the business side of the house. They have cut or traded players just like every other team and just because they released a few guys who were not getting playing time so they could go somewhere else or gave Jefferson who had always been a solid player an extension changes that fact. I loved that part of the article you posted because I posted something similar about Lebron and them leaving there team to do whats best for them before even seeing that.

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by gunnin' gervin on Feb 25, 2011 11:57 AM CST reply actions

Perhaps I should have said that they inspire loyalty among their players?

Timmy could have done what LeBron did this summer and gone to Orlando with Grant Hill. They probably would have won a championship. Orlando had a better team, they were going to give him just as much money.

They have for sure cut and traded players. Malik Rose was one, Bruce Bowen was one too. But by all accounts, there is a sense of loyalty. They don’t run this as a business without emotion. Manu wouldn’t have gotten the money the Spurs gave him from other teams last year, but they did it anyway. Showing loyalty to a player that had done his best for the organization.

"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."

-Timothy Varner 48MoH

by Jordan Leithart on Feb 25, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions

Wrong

Orlando didn’t have a better team. Timmy stayed because he got paid and the Spurs had won and built around him. If the Spurs had a shitty record the year before or hadn’t won anything in the time Timmy was in San Antonio he most likely would’ve left. I mean neither one of us know for sure what he would’ve done but to compare his situation with Lebron’s is not to accurate. The Cavs never showed that they could build a championship caliber team around Lebron the whole 7 years he was there. That is the main reason why Lebron left and it is evident by the huge pay cut he took and the eagerness to share the spotlight with other superstars.

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by gunnin' gervin on Feb 25, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions

Duncan said he seriously considered signing with Orlando, which offered a six-year, $67.5 million deal, but cited his close relationship with former Spurs center David Robinson and his comfort level with Coach Gregg Popovich as reasons why he stayed with the Spurs.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/10/AR2007061001393.html

The second best player on the Spurs that year was Derek Anderson. They had lost the year before to the Lakers superb squad.

The Magic had Grant Hill just signed, though he only played 4 games because of injury. Duncan not coming over allowed them to sign T-Mac.

"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."

-Timothy Varner 48MoH

by Jordan Leithart on Feb 25, 2011 12:31 PM CST up reply actions

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_11_98/ai_64698117/

The San Antonio Spurs have re-signed star forward Tim Duncan, locking up the biggest prize in this year’s free-agent class.

The 24-year-old Duncan reportedly agreed to a three-year deal worth $32.6 million. It has a fourth-year option that would make it worth $45.9 million.

.Duncan could have signed with San Antonio for as many as seven years, but instead chose to take a shorter deal with an eye toward getting a contract worth more than $100 million the next time he becomes a free agent.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3086623

SAN ANTONIO — Tim Duncan has agreed to a two-year, $40 million contract extension with the San Antonio Spurs, an official familiar with the negotiations said Tuesday. agreement will add to Duncan’s existing three-year deal and keep him in San Antonio at least through the 2011-12 season, according to the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the source was not authorized to discuss negotiations

Duncan sounds like a smart business man to me. Orlando tried to lock him up with a longer deal but he took a shorter one with a team that had won a championship with his eyes on getting more money in the future. Which he did along with winning more championships while Orlando won as many championships as they had before there big free agent splash. LOL. The contract he signed with the Spurs was way more flexible in the sense that he could leave quicker if we didn’t turn shit around and when the fourth year kicked in he still got paid more than what he would’ve gotten in Orlando on his fourth year.

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by gunnin' gervin on Feb 25, 2011 1:01 PM CST up reply actions

So Duncan took less money from the Spurs initially for fewer amount of years. When it came down to it, he made 200k more over 4 years than he would have with the Magic. Not to mention there is no state income tax in Florida.

I don’t see how this makes him a smart business man if he’s only about the money. If he had moved east, he would have competed for just as many championships as the Spurs did, perhaps more, because the east was so weak.

I look at it and say, he took 3 years which would mean he could leave in the summer of 2003. He cited D-Rob as a reason he was staying who retired in 2003. Sounds like he wanted to spend time with David in his last years in the league, with the purpose of winning a championship of course.

"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."

-Timothy Varner 48MoH

by Jordan Leithart on Feb 25, 2011 1:14 PM CST up reply actions

Of course he liked San Antonio, winning and his team mates. But he also made more money overall because he re upped in 03 for 7 years 122million!!!!

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/07/01/news_pf/Sports/Duncan_to_sign_long_t.shtml

SAN ANTONIO, Texas – Tim Duncan plans to sign a long-term contract with the 2003 NBA champion Spurs, his agent said Monday.

Duncan, the league’s MVP the past two seasons, decided not to exercise a player option in his current four-year contract, meaning he will become a free agent.

But that doesn’t mean the 7-foot forward is thinking about going anywhere.

“He will enter into discussions with the Spurs as soon as he is able to,” Lon Babby, Duncan’s agent, said. “Tim intends to re-sign with the Spurs once the details of a long-term deal can be finalized.”

Babby said Duncan does not expect to talk to other teams. Under NBA rules, teams were not permitted to negotiate with free agents until today, and contracts cannot be signed before July 16.

As a free agent, Duncan, 27, is eligible for a deal of up to seven years and $122-million.

His last contract, signed in the summer of 2000, was a three-year deal valued at $32.6-million, with the fourth-year option worth an additional $13.3-million.

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by gunnin' gervin on Feb 25, 2011 1:28 PM CST up reply actions

My point is that he could’ve made that money in Orlando too. What kept him in San Antonio was not the money

"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."

-Timothy Varner 48MoH

by Jordan Leithart on Feb 25, 2011 1:40 PM CST up reply actions

I didn’t say that money was the only thing that made him stay. I even stated that he liked the area, coaching staff and his team mates. But he was playing chess not checkers. He signed a shorter deal to get more money overall in the long term. Orlando tried to play him for a fool by signing him to that long ass short changed deal. He took a shorter one cause he knew if health provided he could get paid more and he did. The proof is there in black in white my friend

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by gunnin' gervin on Feb 25, 2011 1:48 PM CST up reply actions

To be honest I am confused what you guys are debating. “proof is there in black and white”?

Proof of what? Duncan is not exactly that loyal? That he made his moves with money in mind?

Whether Timmy is loyal or not, he should make his moves with money as a necessary concern I would think.

The whole point of this article I think is this :
the Spurs(encompassing teammates, culture, FO and coach) earned Timmy’s loyalty enough to make him want to stay, whether, at comparable income or more income or less income.

by LionZion on Feb 25, 2011 5:23 PM CST up reply actions

We did get kind of side tracked but my point was Timmy is no different than any other player in the sense that he wants to win and get paid well. Just like the Spurs aren’t much different than most organizations in the fact that they have cut and traded players. People make it seem like Lebron left for more money or some shit when in all actuality he left Cleveland to try and win championships. Duncan might have left also if we hadn’t won before he became a free agent. All of these athletes want to get paid and of course win championships and that is ultimately the bottom line. Jordan was posting info trying to paint it like Tim was playing with the Spurs out of the kindness of his heart or something when Tim was getting paid well, as of course he should because he earned it.

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by gunnin' gervin on Feb 26, 2011 12:33 PM CST up reply actions

Part of the point is sometimes the org does everything right and the player doesn’t want to be there no matter what. we always want winning to be the most important thing to the players too but they need to think of themselves too since more then likely their means of making money has a shelf live of 10-15 years and thats if they are really good.

Both organizations and players make business decisions. i think fans and media trash some and look over others for whatever reason.

Except when it comes to Timmy cause hes the patron saint of awesome and if you want to fight over it gunnin" just say when and where!!!

by spurs fan on Feb 27, 2011 1:35 PM CST up reply actions

Violence

is not the answer. LOL. You hit the nail right on the head with the part about fans and media trashing some and letting others slide.

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by gunnin' gervin on Feb 28, 2011 8:51 PM CST up reply actions

I get your point but it is disconcerting how it’s coming out as likening Timmy to LeBron as if they would somehow do what the other did if they were put in each other’s shoes. I beg to disagree.

by TD21 on Feb 25, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions

Thats because you have build people up that you don’t know. I think Timmy is a more laid back cooler guy than Lebron but I don’t know that for sure because I don’t know these people. I don’t pretend to know these people or build them up as some mythical figure either. They are human beings who just happen to be taller, faster, or whatever that put them in a different situation than most. I respect what they do for a living and I enjoy watching them do what they do for a living but I don’t think they are much different than the average Joe when it comes to most things.

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by gunnin' gervin on Feb 25, 2011 1:06 PM CST up reply actions

If they’re like the average joe, than they are more likely to stick with a franchise/company that did right by them to begin with. If I have a job that I love and I’m working for a company I believe in, I’ll take less money.

I’m not saying I have a problem with players who leave for more money. I’m not saying I have a problem with franchises that trade their players away even if it doesn’t make sense to me. What I am trying to say is that the Spurs run a business (on this I agree) that cultivates a sense of loyalty between the employee and the management. This helps them win.

"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."

-Timothy Varner 48MoH

by Jordan Leithart on Feb 25, 2011 1:18 PM CST up reply actions

You are a good person, Jordan. But most people are taking the money especially if they only have to do half the work, i.e. Lebron. LOL. How did the Spurs do right by Duncan? I mean he was a good employee who made there company a lot of money and they paid him as such. You act like they picked this man up off the beach or some shit or like they gave him a job when nobody else would, like he should be all grateful for the chance to make them a boat load of money. GTFOH. You trippin. LOL. He earned that damn pay check and the right to choose where he wanted to go.

Just like Lebron. He didn’t force the Cavs to trade him, it was his right to go where he wanted to go. I never understood why people who were not from Cleveland took that shit so hard. Every team holds a press conference with the player they sign. Why couldn’t he do the same? His shit was just like that but an our long and more like high school kids picking the college they are going too.

People just pissed cause he didn’t do what they wanted. lol

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by gunnin' gervin on Feb 25, 2011 1:44 PM CST up reply actions

Thanks for the compliment. I’m enjoying our discussion.

The Spurs did right by Duncan in the same way that Cleveland did wrong by LeBron.

They built a championship contender around him. The difference is that the Spurs were able to because they weren’t cash strapped because Duncan didn’t take the max in 2000. He didn’t even take the max in 2003. He always sacrificed his personal financial situation to better the team and the Spurs will undoubtedly re-sign him in 2012 if that’s what he wants.

I don’t dislike LeBron for his decision to go to Miami. I dislike how he set up a narcissistic hypocritical news conference and waited until everyone else had chosen where they were going to go so that he had the full spotlight on him. Do I dislike him because of what he decided? Absolutely not. It’s how he decided.

I don’t mean to act like Duncan was nothing before the Spurs drafted him. If I could see where I acted like that, I will gladly recant. It’s more of the other way around.

"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."

-Timothy Varner 48MoH

by Jordan Leithart on Feb 25, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions

LOL

If you could see my face when I read your post. I must admit I am really laughing out loud. Duncan took damn near the max with that 7 year deal. He was the 3rd or 4th highest paid person in the league so yeah he took a cut but not by much. Personally I wouldn’t expect or ask him to take much of a pay cut because without him the team wouldn’t have won jack. He did restructure the deal later in its years to get more help to win but like I said it wasn’t by much.

Them building a contender wasn’t just for Duncan’s benefit and you typing that is just ridiculous. Say that out loud and listen to what you typed Jordan. LOL. That is a crazy statement my friend. Every team and owner including crazy ass Donald Sterling wants to win a championship and if they have the talent to do so they will spend.

Lebron did exactly how they do that shit for those high school guys going to college. You have to remember he never went to college and this was his chance to do that. ESPN and all these sports writers never had a problem with those kids doing it but as soon as Lebron decided to do it and go make a super team everybody gets pissed. If he would’ve went somewhere else besides Miami with Bosh and Wade he wouldn’t have gotten killed as bad.

Its just typical people getting mad because they can’t control what they wanted him to do. Plus he fell short of who they wanted him to be. That is all it is. A lot of people were pissed because he wanted to play with his friends and had the nerve to actually flaunt the very little power he had. The players don’t have as much say so as many believe but he realized quick in Cleveland that the power he did have was strong if used the right way. I’m by no means saying that he should be as rude and disrespectful and some reports have claimed him to be. But the owner of the Cavs let him do that shit and you know what they say. You reap what you sow. But it works both ways also. You have some owners and coaches who will ruin a player if they feel they are getting outta pocket. Like they are some type of being less than a man.

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by gunnin' gervin on Feb 25, 2011 2:24 PM CST up reply actions

As a free agent, Duncan, 27, is eligible for a deal of up to seven years and $122-million

17 million a year.

http://www.insidehoops.com/nbasalaries.shtml

Just in the past few years was Duncan ever in the top 10 salaries per year. He gave up millions of $ to help win a championship

"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."

-Timothy Varner 48MoH

by Jordan Leithart on Feb 25, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions

On the link you sent he was 2nd behind Garnett making 20.6 million for power forwards and number 8 for all the players in 08-09.

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by gunnin' gervin on Feb 25, 2011 2:58 PM CST up reply actions

Duncan is making 18mil this season.

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by gunnin' gervin on Feb 25, 2011 2:59 PM CST up reply actions

actually

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/sas/roster

This year he is making almost 19 mil according to yahoo and 09-10 he was making almost 23 mil. which was fourth on the list for all players in the league. see the link below

http://sportige.com/2009-2010-biggest-contracts/

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by gunnin' gervin on Feb 25, 2011 3:08 PM CST up reply actions

Just in the past few years was Duncan ever in the top 10 salaries per yea

"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."

-Timothy Varner 48MoH

by Jordan Leithart on Feb 25, 2011 3:14 PM CST up reply actions

I’m worried about your repeated usage of the subject box.

by LatinD on Feb 25, 2011 11:14 PM CST up reply actions

It’s your lack of faith that I find disturbing.

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by J.R. Wilco on Feb 28, 2011 1:55 PM CST up reply actions

I agree for the most part but, what about Bowen? It was not an awful ending but it wasn’t a good one considering what he meant for this team.

A casual diehard Spurs fan.

by Sh!fty on Feb 25, 2011 12:10 PM CST reply actions

There will be trades and there will be cuts, but I’m willing to bet everyone heard it from the FO first instead of ESPN.

by TD21 on Feb 25, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions

he was all done by the time he was traded. its not cool but its not the same either

by spurs fan on Feb 25, 2011 2:28 PM CST up reply actions

he wanted to retire in SA – that was not a very ‘loyal’ move

"I had an excellent game. It was just an excellent game. We are an excellent team. I had an excellent game." DeJuan Blair 12/29/10 SA 97 - LA 82

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Feb 25, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions

I think Bruce is the closest to Perkins. A guy had spent the last 6 years with the Spurs and then we traded him away. The only difference I see is that Bruce was on the tail end of his career, Perkins was not. Not that age should matter in respect to loyalty.

"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."

-Timothy Varner 48MoH

by Jordan Leithart on Feb 25, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions

I don’t agree with Bill Simmons when he says that Carmelo stabbed his team in the back. If a player wants to play for another team thats between him and his family. I think the situation worked out for the best for Denver. Carmelo let management know in advance before the season started that he would like to be traded, he didn’t want to leave Denver with anything before free agency. Lebron did the exact opposite and just about killed the Cleveland franchise.

by JaySo on Feb 25, 2011 1:57 PM CST reply actions

I rarely agree with what Bill Simmons writes. For instance, in this article, he writes how New York won because they got Melo and in nearly the next paragraph he says that losing Melo benefits the Nuggets. How can they both be true?

If I was a GM, I would prefer with the way that Melo did it. He worked extremely hard the last two years, even if he didn’t put 100% in. LeBron, when things finally went south in the playoffs, just quit…

"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."

-Timothy Varner 48MoH

by Jordan Leithart on Feb 25, 2011 2:02 PM CST up reply actions

there are a lot of ways a trade can help both teams, just some examples

1 player needed a change and couldn’t make his potential where he was (chip on his shoulders shaq)
2 each team gets something they need, like we need a lock down sf and have a log jam at pf
3 we are getting younger you are making a playoff push (trade vet for potential or picks)
4 player x is leaving anyways so we get as much as we can for him (this is the melo trade…honestly both teams did well here)

by spurs fan on Feb 25, 2011 2:27 PM CST up reply actions

I think he said Denver won in a sense because they did get something half way decent for Melo unlike the Cavs with Bron. But who really gives a damn if the Cavs got anything good for Lebron. There are plenty of other free agents who leave teams and there teams don’t get compensated. Why should they be felt sorry for when it was there fault the team couldn’t win a championship? Nobody felt sorry for them before he got there and they were wasting draft picks on Dejuan Wagner and other players who bombed out of the league. They had 7 years to build a championship team and didn’t do it. Because of bad drafting, bad free agent pick ups and trading away draft picks for BS

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by gunnin' gervin on Feb 25, 2011 2:30 PM CST up reply actions

Because of bad drafting, bad free agent pick ups and trading away draft picks for BS

…AND MELO SUCKS :p

by spurs fan on Feb 25, 2011 2:35 PM CST up reply actions

lol

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by gunnin' gervin on Feb 25, 2011 2:39 PM CST up reply actions

I just read this myself and was like if perk was a spur i would be pissed if they did this i feel bad for boston fans…not that it didnt make the team better but i felt kinda like this when we trade rose away and then won in 2005.

by spurs fan on Feb 25, 2011 2:05 PM CST reply actions

As a rule, the NBA is a business. And yes, the Spurs are not as heartless as some teams. On the other hand, the Spurs always go after guys who have a lot of character, so it’s easy to be loyal to them. It’s not hard to trade/cut a guy who keeps getting arrested for fighting in strip clubs or for raping women or gets busted for drugs. The Spurs avoid these type players like the plague (regardless of how talented they are). Thus, the “family” atmosphere that players feel with the Spurs. Will more Spurs get traded/cut in the future? Of course, that’s the business side of it. But will they always feel like they are, and always will be part of the Spurs family? Absolutely!! That’s what sets the Spurs apart from the rest of the NBA….oh, and BTW…..I disagree about over paying #20….that’s not possible!!….:-)

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by titansfan4ever on Feb 25, 2011 2:14 PM CST reply actions

Timmeh = Spurs success

by i luv this site on Feb 25, 2011 2:32 PM CST reply actions

There’s no question that the Spurs are the most family like organization in the league. It helps players play their best when they know that the team has their backs.

"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich

by bj1der on Feb 25, 2011 4:25 PM CST reply actions

bottom line = just one more reason to like the spurs.

not to say that we agreed with all their moves, but you generally see fewer people around the spurs organization crying foul about the way they have been treated by the team and vice versa. the way owners, coaches and players have ego-tized themselves in recent years, that is saying something.

loyalty is definitely two way street/double edged sword and i very much agree with simmons assessment on this.

by bones on Feb 25, 2011 5:25 PM CST reply actions

I don’t know why i loved this team. but i realized that it’s the culture that made me love them and the team as a whole, I adore them as a team unlike my love and adoration for OKC and CHI which first started because of rose and kd, though i love them.Being a spurs fan is more stronger and different.And I guess this team does suit my personality. And now i do believe that certain teams have certain “personalities” too, and that also tells what kind of fans they have.

Me Likey Tiagoooeeeyyy!

by tp_09 on Feb 25, 2011 9:52 PM CST reply actions

Article should mention the Sean Elliott trade, which makes it a bit harder to portray the Spurs as uniquely loyal.

by doggydogworld on Feb 27, 2011 12:59 PM CST reply actions

i would say they are above average at least and value loyalty and chemistry more then most. but again they have the luxury of having david and timmy to leaded they way…it starts and ends there.

by spurs fan on Feb 27, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions

Perhaps I should have said, “Business savvy” instead of Loyalty… :P

"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."

-Timothy Varner 48MoH

by Jordan Leithart on Feb 28, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions

No, Loyalty is a stronger stand. You wrote what you felt, and that’s all you should do. Let others bring up their own points of view. I liked it a ton.

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by J.R. Wilco on Feb 28, 2011 1:58 PM CST up reply actions

You wrote what you felt

how do you know what he felt!

people should be allowed to rephrase i don’t think you have to force him to stick to his original statement if he doesn’t want too…jeesh

by spurs fan on Feb 28, 2011 3:27 PM CST up reply actions

I was actually referring to the constant reminders that the NBA is a business… :P

"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."

-Timothy Varner 48MoH

by Jordan Leithart on Feb 28, 2011 3:34 PM CST up reply actions

How do I know?

You have no idea the kinds of tools they give you when you take over a blog.

No idea at all.

[maniacal laughter starts, but quickly fades as dark orchestral music builds to a crescendo]

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by J.R. Wilco on Feb 28, 2011 5:59 PM CST up reply actions

you are right. He wrote what he felt and others put down what they felt. That is why I like this site because it doesn’t get too ugly when people’s opinion differs. Besides when the Laker fan OLF post anyway. But even OLF is some what funny and tactful.

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by gunnin' gervin on Feb 28, 2011 8:57 PM CST up reply actions