NBA Player Movement Talk-o-rama
by Tim C. on Dec 8, 2011 7:36 PM CST
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PrintWell, the NBA is definitely back. There was a wee bit of player movement today, and a good chance we'll be talking about it some more.
Aside from TJ Ford, the Spurs still haven't landed anybody. The big trade news of the day sent Chris Paul to the Lakers, with the evil empire giving up most of their vaunted frontcourt depth to make it happen. There are rumors that they'll also get Emeka Okafor for their troubles, but nothing confirmed. [UPDATE: other team owners are pushing David Stern to kill the trade]
COMPETITIVE BALANCE!
(more player movement details below the fold)
So far, these are the known details of who's going where, both in free agency and trades. Please let me know if I missed anything, so I can add it to the list.
Boston Celtics - Keyon Dooling, Brandon Bass
Detroit Pistons - (re-signed) Tayshaun Prince
Milwaukee Bucks - Mike Dunleavy Jr
New Orleans Hornets - Goran Dragic, Kevin Martin, Lamar Odom, Luis Scola*
Los Angeles Lakers - Chris Paul*
Los Angeles Clippers - Caron Butler
SAN ANTONIO SPURS - T.J. Ford
* trade killed by league office, acting as Hornets owner.
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Ok, that's all I got so far. Discuss!
Feel free to use this as a DTOUR thread as well, since we haven't had one in quite some time.
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Can anyone translate this?
manuginobili Manu Ginobili
Fuertes rumores indican un triple cambio entre NOH/LAL/HOU. Paul iría a LAL, Gasol a HOU y Luifa/Dragic/Martin/Odom a NOH. Se hará??
I’m hoping it says something like “WTF? THIS IS RIDICULOUS, AND I’M FILING AN OFFICIAL PROTEST.”
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
You guessed right. He describes the rumored trade and then asks "will it happen?"
Oh, it happened Manu, it happened.
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
the Spurs are beginning to force me to become multi-lingual
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madness
"got him at 42……Chad Ford can’t keep up with RC ‘Bargin Basement’ Buford."
Spurs Yoda on Draft Night 2011
lunacy
"got him at 42……Chad Ford can’t keep up with RC ‘Bargin Basement’ Buford."
Spurs Yoda on Draft Night 2011
MAYHEM!
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This…is….STERN-A!
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come on, you know screamed and made that exact face when LA got Paul
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In only a couple of days we find that the lockout really accomplished nothing other than losing games and practice time. The big markets still dominate the trade and free agency world and any idea of balance is completely thrown out the door. This is just getting sad to watch. It won’t be long until we’re where baseball is. If you’re not the Yankees, Phillies, Red Sox, or Angels, you got to the World Series by luck cause you sure didn’t have the talent (in most cases)
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nope
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Are you sure?
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
no free agents are exactly rushing over here like Miami, New York, or LA (Lakers that is). Not exactly a lucrative locale.
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It has more to do with the chance of winning championships more than locale. We have an aging core that lost in the first round of the playoffs while the teams you named are looked at as up and coming or elite.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Dec 8, 2011 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t recall our team trying to get a lot of big name guys around that time either. And if you are thinking I’m just some young guy who is talking out of his bum. Trust me on the fact that I was and am old enough to recall back then and remember the events pretty well
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Dec 8, 2011 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
why would i give a shit about your age? we’re talking basketball here!
screw CP, LAL, and david stern. throw in bos, NYN and the heat too.
I’m just stating that a decent amount of folks who post online in any sports related forum is relatively younger and only know what Wikipedia tells them.
The market size has not as much to do with building a contender as people make it out to be. That is the point I’m trying to make. If the Spurs had the money or was still looked at as a serious and not dark horse championship contender they could attract better free agents.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Dec 8, 2011 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe his point is, big markets will still attract decent talent irrespective of whether their core is playing on crutches while we can’t.
Money, Championship caliber & Playing time
are the 3 most important things any player looks for when relocating. Nobody is gonna take less money or playing time to go to a losing team, Unless they are from there or some shit. (Melo). Money almost always comes first with any pro athlete.
People didn’t want to go to the Knicks when they were all jacked up with Eddie Curry being there best player and Isaiah Thomas over paying scrubs unless they could offer top dollar. They couldn’t get solid roll players to sign there to ring chase or players to try and get traded to them. Amare only went there because they were the only team that offered him a fully guaranteed contract.
Nobody was taking pay cuts or begging for a trade to the Lakers when they had Smush Parker and Kwame Brown starting out there. Players weren’t lining up to play there because they weren’t championship contenders at the time. They got Pau because Jerry West and the Grizzles were cutting cost and he was trying to help his old team. Fucking West. LOL.
And please don’t give me the players were different then because I gave you two scenario’s that were not that long ago. Players like Bosh, LeBron, Chris Paul and Howard are leaving and left there teams because they felt they couldn’t win on the teams they have been on. None of those guys demanded to be drafted to a certain team like players in the NFL have done in the past and none of them didn’t give up on there team after 2 or 3 years. They all stayed for at least 6 or 7 seasons trying to win where they were at.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Dec 9, 2011 9:00 AM CST up reply actions
i don’t know how the NFL does it, but even the bad teams can catch a break in this regard (in most cases). The NBA, meanwhile, loves to give the illusion of a meaningful salary cap and gives hollow preachings of competitive balance. Welcome to the MLB, where the biggest pocketbooks land the biggest players no matter what.
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Not exactly the same scenario
One player makes a much larger difference in basketball than baseball….so your nightmare might be even worse. Look at how many repeat champions they’re have been in basketball in recent history compared to baseball.
I hate the engineered trades more so than the FAs flocking to the larger markets
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
Welp…
DonHarris4 Don Harris
@EricDSal7 I’m ahead of that. Ghill not coming to spurs
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
Maybe he’s still talking about George Hill, and is just confused.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
His explanation is that Alvin Gentry is his brother-in-law, and that he heard it from Grant Hill himself.
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Meh
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
by spursfan87 on Dec 8, 2011 7:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
So what now? V. Carter? Howard? :(
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
by spursfan87 on Dec 8, 2011 7:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If Carter is the best you can come up with, it’s better just to suck it up and keep RJ.
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Well… we haven’t exactly heard about teams clamoring for him should he become available, so we may just all be stuck together.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
To be honest if we cant hill i would throw the rookie into the fire. Or start anderson at the 3
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
by spursfan87 on Dec 8, 2011 8:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
With the season as compressed as it is, I think we’d be seeing a lot of that regardless. We traded for Kawhi because he’s a “produce-now” kind of rookie.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
Keyon Dooling to the C’s for a trade exception and a second-round pick.
That’s as exciting as Paul to the Lakers, right?
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
Apropos of nothing…
Gee, I wonder when the lockout ended?
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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
NBA owners have pushed commissioner David Stern to kill the deal sending Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell Y! Sports.
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Womp womp.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
why would he, the TV ratings are gonna skyrocket when Howard comes on board and promises seven rings.
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But he wants open competition: That’s why we had the lockout. Right, guys?…. right?
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
ah son, maybe one day you’ll know the truth about the birds and the bees and David Stern
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what exactly are they planning sending for Howard
Other than Bynum?
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
Exactly. The other team has to agree to the trade too. Sometimes I think that is lost in the interwebs of fucking idiots.
Frankly, I dont know why theyd want Paul
Over Howard, who is better than Bynum and Gasol, so if they were to use those assets, go for the big man, there aren’t many great C around anymore and you dont need a PG in the triangle, if indeed they still run that post-Phil
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
They want them both. I’ll be ok if they only get one of them.
All these GIFs are breaking my browser.
well everyone wants both
but if you only have resources for one, I cant believe they’d want Paul over Howard
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
the sky is falling and everyone outside of LA, Boston, New York, and Miami is without an umbrella
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The problem is that the harsher salary tax is not going into effect for two more years. The new deal is likely going to affect the newer generation of NBA stars. The new rules should make the mini-max extension less common, thus keeping young stars on the team that drafted them.
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
isn’t that what I said? ;-)
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Stern should not kill the deal. I don’t like the trade, but Stern should not kill the deal.
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Samurai Champloo > Macross
I agree, unless it’s followed by a deal for Howard. Kill that one.
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Then again, the league owns the Hornets, so if enough owners don’t want it to go through, it won’t.
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Then odds are, Chris Paul isn’t going anywhere at all, unless it’s to an even suckier team.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
so to clarify, does the NBA, as in David Stern and such executives, own the Hornets, or do the owners and Stern collectively earn it as they themselves embody the NBA?
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The 29 other ownership groups all have an equal stake in the Hornets, and Stern is ultimately the “acting” owner on their behalf.
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so then technically, the only way this works is if all those 29 ownership groups would be so stupid as to allow this? So wouldn’t this thus be an impossibility? Or does Stern have total control with the 29 owners being mere advisers/funders/deadweight
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I don’t mind this deal. Lakers lose their front court depth and will bank their future on three gimpy knees. Paul, Bynum and old Kobe. If they get odom or some other good 4 back, makes them pretty good, but still not as formidable as the towers’ nightmare before. Even Ginger might accidentally get a rebound against them now.
i dont either
The lakers would be weaker IMHO, both bryant and paul need the ball in their hands, both are creaters, and what made the lakers a tough match up was their size. I mean they could go 7’ at 3,4,and 5. That was an impossible match up for any team. So they give up their strength to make bolster their weekness. The main problem that the rest of the league had a problem with is that it basically takes the lakers off the financial hook for their last couple of championships. They have to pay the piper.
That is what they were trying to do, and possibly have the money to land Dwight Howard. All this without paying the luxury tax. That is probably the main reason this trade was vetoed. I mean does paul really make the lakers better? No, and not with losing Gasol, and Odom.
+1
very good point! the reason i don’t like the deal is because the Lakers would then realistically have a chance at having both Paul and Howard, but if Howard goes to the Nets (unless that tampering situation ruins it), the Lakers would be very thin at the frontline, speciifically at the PF postion.
"You know the difference between you and me? I make this look GOOD." - Agent J, Men In Black
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Owners were irate in Board of Governors meeting with Stern, livid that the league-owned Hornets were allowed to make Paul deal, sources say.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
The NBA is now pushing New Orleans GM Dell Demps to pull the plug on the trade and keep Chris Paul, league sources tell Y! Sports.
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Samurai Champloo > Macross
The NBA is now finally gaining common sense, pushing New Orleans GM Dell Demps to pull the plug
FIFY
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Who wrote that? Woj?
Because I didn’t think he was dumb. The NBA is losing common sense. Demps pulled off a coup—3 All-Star-Caliber players plus Dragic plus a first rounder for Paul? Come on. The Lakers’ frontline would’ve been toast. Great move by Demps. He should resign in protest after this fiasco.
by wildcat110 on Dec 8, 2011 9:27 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
+1
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Dec 8, 2011 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
agreed
The Hornets would have benefitted, but they would have done it at a huge financial cost. Also the burden of contracts, pisses off the other owners. Why should 29 teams foot the bill for the lakers championships? That I think is the bottom line. Players wise the trade benefits Houston, and Nola, the lakers IMHO, get weaker, but they make out like AIG
You know, I’m not sure the owners forcing New Orleans to keep CP3 is a good thing. The team should be able to make the best deal possible, and the Hornets think that this is the best deal possible. And it is a good deal.
Look, I’m glad the Lakers aren’t as dangerous, but something about this stinks.
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Samurai Champloo > Macross
I’m conflicted. On the one hand I hate when leagues try to interfere on what teams want to do, on the other hand this should never be possible in the first place.
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@ESPNSteinLine: CP3 trade with Lakers will NOT go through Friday and Chris Paul is expected in Hornets camp, according to sources
and his capacity for giving a crap will be at an all-time low
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@ESPNSteinLine :One source close to the three-team Chris Paul trade talks just told http://ESPN.com: “The deal is off.”
by play_splitter on Dec 8, 2011 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
this happened very quickly
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Let’s all pat ourselves on the back, Internet Warriors!
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
Sure!
WE DID IT!
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
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Yikes, sizing!
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by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
TWSS
I never take the high road, but I tell other people to, that way there is more room for me on the low road.
best TWSS of the young season
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What’s Adam Morrison up to these days? Can the Spurs get him?
I never take the high road, but I tell other people to, that way there is more room for me on the low road.
He has championship experience!
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
by spursfan87 on Dec 8, 2011 8:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I’m assuming you are not being sarcastic.
After getting his confidence back playing in Serbia, he is looking to return to the NBA.
If RJ’s inconsistency was infuriating, I can’t imagine how we would describe Morrison’s.
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
What would my avatar say to Laker fans? NOT TODAY!
"I'm good at killing fat boys. I like killing fat boys." ~Arya Stark
WINTER IS COMING, BEACHES
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
I’m good at killing blockbuster trades. I like killing blockbuster trades.
Let’s hope Stern isn’t a Lanister and he doesn’t feel like he owes the Lakers anything.
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
Speaking for the grotesques small-market teams, trades like this are so terribly final, while slapping down the Lakers is so full of possibilities.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
Ha. What a good show. I usually hate that kind of middle ages fantasy shit, but that show is just good. And Tyrion is very quotable.
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
The books are things of wonder, as well. Brilliant character work.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
So CP hasn’t been traded?? Thank goodness. I was about to rant on competitive balance, my a$$.
I'm not as good as I once was...and that's just the cold, hard truth.
That was a good trade for Nola. Paul exits and they get Dragic, Odom, Scola and Kevin Martin? The rich (Lakers) were not getting richer in that trade
You might be right but that trade would have set themselves up to get another superstar who would consider playing alongside Paul and Bryant a no-brainer.
Are you a faker fan!? I don’t care for the fakers to even get a third string PG. It’s not a good deal for No. It’s a great deal for LA. They not only get CP3 but save 40 million in this trade. It’s the Gasol trade all over again. Great trade for LA good for NO and Houston.
by spurlover on Dec 9, 2011 1:00 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
The NBA, where an hour’s worth of bitching is how you create competitive balance, happens
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Oh, so he just got the new expansion pack?
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 8:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
how can he be playing World of Warcraft at a time like this?
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I really, really don’t like this. But I guess the Lakers lose, so everyone’s fine with it, while ignoring the implications.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
The implications are that Chris Paul is going nowhere, and bankrupt teams don’t get to make blockbuster trades to teams that already win too much.
I guess.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
Good summary.
I do feel for Paul, though. He seems shackled to the Hornets.
All these GIFs are breaking my browser.
For one more short season… then he can leave and NO gets nothing.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
Until the terms of the contract he signed are fulfilled. I have a hard time feeling sorry for Chris Paul. If he doesn’t want to play for the Hornets, he can opt out of his contract as per the terms he agreed to.
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest." --Willy Wonka
Only because the NBA has a monopoly, only enabled by Congressional action of dubious legality. In virtually any other field, Paul wouldn’t be forced to work in New Orleans.
by Tim in Surrey on Dec 9, 2011 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
So Chris Paul has to pay for ownership’s mistakes?
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 8, 2011 8:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It’s all about THE GREATER GOOD.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
Chris Paul is probably gonna start his own lockout now
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I say that, just out of spite, he takes a pay cut and gets himself traded to San Antonio. That would show ’em.
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I say he fakes an injury by hr #2 of training camp.
by play_splitter on Dec 8, 2011 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
NOLA = No LA
I never take the high road, but I tell other people to, that way there is more room for me on the low road.
by SinCitySpur on Dec 8, 2011 8:19 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Yeah, that’s the fallout. The Lakers get to make just as bugnuts a deal, and no one can do anything about it.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
So about 24 hrs till we see dwight in purple n gold?
by play_splitter on Dec 8, 2011 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
Here’s the problem… there’s nothing keeping Otis Smith from accepting the same deal for Howard.
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Besides that he believes Howard is going to resign with the Magic at the end of the year. It wouldn’t surprise me. He’s a fucking child and Disney World is in Orlando so it is fitting he stays put.
I feel very sorry for Chris Paul. And the Hornets franchise. I think it’s a safe bet at this point that they will be the team that is “downsized” to save money.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
@WojYahooNBA
New Orleans GM Dell Demps is “disconsolate” over this stunning, heavy-handed move from the commissioner’s office, source tells Y! Sports.
He has every right to be. F*** the NBA.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
If I were Demps, I’d resign in protest. Honestly, he went out and got a good deal for a guy that was going to leave him for nothing next summer, and then other owners killed it out of jealousy.
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yeah they did. teams will continue to low ball them now. I wouldn’t be surprised if they accept a less lucrative deal later
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Dec 8, 2011 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
I do feel bad for Demps. Not for Paul.
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest." --Willy Wonka
lol
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by gunnin' gervin on Dec 8, 2011 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
New orleans got screwed. Hopefully they can get a better deal from the Clippers or Golden State now that this trade fell through. Maybe the Clippers will finally throw in Eric Gordon or the Warriors will throw in Curry
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Dec 8, 2011 8:51 PM CST up reply actions
OOPS
I never take the high road, but I tell other people to, that way there is more room for me on the low road.
WojYahooNBA: Owners were irate in Board of Governors meeting with Stern, livid that the league-owned Hornets were allowed to make Paul deal, sources say. [via Twitter]
I'm not as good as I once was...and that's just the cold, hard truth.
To be a fly on that wall. I wonder what Peter Holt’s stance was.
I never take the high road, but I tell other people to, that way there is more room for me on the low road.
Some flies are just too cool for the wall.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
Where was David Stern vetoing Lebron, Wade and Bosh signing with the Heat?
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
Remember, the only reason the league gets to do this at all is because the Hornets are a bankrupt franchise.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, you know, not owning/running the Heat.
Unbelievable Time distortion space is the place Mean Gene Okerlund go down that lonesome highway but don't be hypnotized no- reincarnation doesn't have to be you can concentrate and you can-mental telepathy YEAH! But the beat goes on.
by SpursfanSteve on Dec 8, 2011 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
Dealing Pau and Odom for CP was a BAD trade… and the other owners are so jealous they are trying to kill it… wow!
<++ If Dejuan Blair had ACLs, nobody would ever get a rebound ++>
good for west teams… less size to contend with. twss
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
motion of the ocean, no?
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 10:53 PM CST up reply actions
Just heard the Reggie Williams story. Can’t we just run with Kawhi from the get-go?
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Yeah…I’m still hoping to get a vet after all is said and done…but I would not be against starting Leonard on Dec. 26th.
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest." --Willy Wonka
I agree. But I haven’t seen him play an NBA game, yet. Hope springs eternal before the season begins, you know?
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Yeah, it’s easy to be high on rookies before they ever play. Kawhi may make me look like an idiot for putting so much faith in him. Hope not though.
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest." --Willy Wonka
You are right but it is nice sometimes to have hope a player can get better as opposed to knowing a player is pretty much who he is. We have hope that the future is bright with him and Anderson. It is a good thing to see the team trying to add new pieces instead of being in danger of being the Celtics like they are now or the Pistons who really didn’t add any younger pieces into they completely fell off.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Dec 8, 2011 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
You know after this i seriously might not watch the NBA. I… I just don’t know anymore. Even though I’m not an NO fan, I feel the pain. Stern just crapped all over their team and now they are screwed.
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Samurai Champloo > Macross
I thought it was a good deal
made them stronger and the lakers weaker…but as others have indicated, it would have made LA the top free agent destination (but then wasn’t it at or near the top already?)
"I was nice and didn’t go for a full cock shot" - LonghornEm
But should a team owned by the league be allowed to make blockbuster moves? I’m not against this trade, btw.
The thing about it is, Dell Demps has been on the job since before the league took over, and the league didn’t interfere with the trade discussion AT ALL, or tell him what to do, until he had already set up an agreement.
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Basically, the league stopped Dell Demps from doing his job.
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It hurt LA in the short term, helped them in the longer term but knocking some salary off their books. I think the problem the other owners had wasn’t because of the talent gap in the trade, but the superstar factor. Big factor in gate revenues and merch sales.
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I don’t know why but i feel we’re gonna miss Princess Peanuts
<++ If Dejuan Blair had ACLs, nobody would ever get a rebound ++>
Don’t count your tissues before their blown into.
There’s been no OFFICIAL amnesty announcement yet…
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe it’ll light a fire under RJ if he stays. Maybe.
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest." --Willy Wonka
Besides, the smoke has nowhere to go. His ears are too tiny.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
True. Maybe this is all just a shit load of bad journalism.
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by quincyscott on Dec 8, 2011 9:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
JRW made a good point on Twitter… that this would never have happened before Twitter.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 9:05 PM CST up reply actions
I could take it or leave it. I just want to see a lot of Kawhi.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
+1 Billion
Embrace the youth movement!! I think Anderson and Leonard will do a solid job playing the 3. Not to mention it will give them both the extended playing time they and the coaching staff needs to see if they can really handle being a solid NBA player.
I just think without another quality big guy on our team we are just another playoff team barring injuries
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Dec 8, 2011 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
LOL
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by gunnin' gervin on Dec 8, 2011 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
To that point I would much rather they try to use the MLE on a big.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
I’ve been saying and thinking the same thing. I just wish they would’ve tried hard for a younger big who they think had potential. no more old guys because I think we need to get more youth on this squad pronto
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Dec 8, 2011 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
Wouldn’t it be something if it turned out that the silver and black bullet to put the Spurs over the top was not a couple of veterans but a group of youngsters supporting our big 3?
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest." --Willy Wonka
It would be beautiful. I mean look at the rockets with Sam Cassell being a rookie and Horry being like a 3rd year pro.
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by gunnin' gervin on Dec 8, 2011 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
Well Hakeem was an absolute beast back then so it might be little different. But i do agree it would be great.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
He was
But those two guys were huge in the playoffs
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by gunnin' gervin on Dec 8, 2011 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
johnhollinger John Hollinger
RT @netw3rk: Hey David, NOW the league looks rigged.
I'm not as good as I once was...and that's just the cold, hard truth.
netw3rk netw3rk
Let’s never have basketball, only wild trades.
"I'm good at killing fat boys. I like killing fat boys." ~Arya Stark
That’s one of my favorites.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 9:07 PM CST up reply actions
I’ve retweeted netw3rk approximately 263 times today.
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That’s true. Chris Brussard is making the point that the NBA has a conflict of interest by owning NOLA. Good point.
When the owner of a particular team is best served by strengthening another team, there’s a serious problem. The end solution is going to have to be that the NBA cannot own any team, whether it’s selling or contracting that team that gets to that point.
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest." --Willy Wonka
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RT @MickyArison: Whatever happens with @CP3 all I can say is I wish him the the best. A class act.
42 minutes ago
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I can’t believe they doin my homie @CP3 like that wow is
I'm not as good as I once was...and that's just the cold, hard truth.
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Our own @Chris_Broussard on SportsCenter: Chris Paul fuming and exploring legal options w/NBPA director Billy Hunter to fight blocked deal
I sense we’re going to be going back and forth on this one for a while.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
@TerezOwens: Kris Jenner probably squashed CP3 Lakers trade once she realized they’d have to send the E! film crew to New Orleans
This is making sense now…. >.>
LOL
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by gunnin' gervin on Dec 8, 2011 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
Forget RJ
I don’t care what happens, we don’t need a guy with NO desire to play ball. He’s like Donovan McNabb. Improves all year, then disappears in the playoffs when we need him?! WTF!?! I will take Grant Hill or rookies over RJ!
"If you run, you'll just go to jail tired!" TJ73
No clue, unfortunately. My back-up plan was rookies!
I will say, we seem to have forgotten that Tiago Splitter will have a fresh start. Personally, I’m excited what we can do with him.
Starters: Tiago Splitter, Tim Duncan, Wahkiki Leonard, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker
Side note: Spurs are the only team that gets me to say “we” when I refer to them!
"If you run, you'll just go to jail tired!" TJ73
think the owners that vetoed this are sorta short sighted. At end of season, paul still leaves NO and signs with LA and LA gets to keep Pau and Odom.
It would be impossible to do that unless he signs for the minimum.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
thought there still wasnt a hard cap and LA still gives a crap about paying lux tax cuz they have a multibillion dollar tv deal
by i luv this site on Dec 8, 2011 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
According to ESPN, Spurs have offered Grant Hill 1 more year than the Suns.
"If you run, you'll just go to jail tired!" TJ73
So… two years?
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
The Spurs, really loading up now , with TJ Ford and….RJ. HAHHAHAA ! I kid guys, I kid. Im tired and delirious, I had two final exams today.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
LMAO!!
there is a nuclear explosion on the silver screen and roll laker page…have a look for some laughs. Screw the lakers, ’bout damn time. I applaud the owners who objected.
WojYahooNBA: “The owners half-pushed this through, and Stern took it the rest of the way,” a league source involved in nixed trade told Y! Sports. [via Twitter]
7:21
WojYahooNBA: (More) “In the end, David didn’t like that the players were dictating where they wanted to go,” source says. [via Twitter]
7:22
WojYahooNBA: League source on killed deal: “…(Stern) wasn’t going to let Chris Paul dictate where he wanted to go.” [via Twitter]
I'm not as good as I once was...and that's just the cold, hard truth.
Seen on AtTheHive:
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It’s the thin rough toilet paper you don’t use at your house, but you use to tee pee that teacher that gave you homework on the weekends.
"You and I have unfinished business." - Beatrix Kiddo
John Wayne
is what we call the toilet paper you are talking about. We call it that because it’s rough, tough and don’t take shit off nobody
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by gunnin' gervin on Dec 8, 2011 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
Lamar Odom writing for Philosoraptor now:
RealLamarOdom LAMAR ODOM
When a team trades u and it doesn’t go down? Now what?
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
not as bad as being unamnestied
by i luv this site on Dec 8, 2011 9:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You stay put, that’s what. You are under contract…right?
"If you run, you'll just go to jail tired!" TJ73
by TrooperJoe73 on Dec 8, 2011 10:01 PM CST up reply actions
when i first saw FTW, i thought it meant “fuck the what.”
exactly my thoughts when i saw yahoo’s fp about battier and butler’s decisions.
so now what? grant hill>howard
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
oh i know i know:
KDonhoops:
RT @notmikedunleavy: Not so fast, Chris Paul. You’re still going to have to beat out Derek Fisher if you want to be the starter in LA. [via Twitter]
this fisher guy is good, yes? possibly better than cp3? maybe we should trade for him…
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
Tony dominates Fisher, Fisher dominates CP… Tony dominates CP.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
It’s been fun watching the emotional roller coaster. High hopes that the Spurs will get caron or battier and then doom and gloom over the thought of j howard. No matter what it’s not like the Spurs are going to join the timberpups and sackramento at the bottom of the league. How many years have they missed the playoffs since coming to the NBA? 4 times. No shame in that
That is the Spurs’ reason for getting up in the morning.
Metaphorically speaking, they can sleep when they are dead, and they aren’t dead yet.
Wait a minute. Francisco Elson is a FA? Why haven’t we signed him yet?!?!?!
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Cause he makes Richard Jefferson look almost good.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
He has baby hands!
"If you run, you'll just go to jail tired!" TJ73
by TrooperJoe73 on Dec 8, 2011 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
got a link to a list of available fas?
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
hmm.. matt barnes, dalembert, cdr, ex-mr kardashian, Z, powe, turiaf……..
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
Come on… clearly you’re all missing Vladimir Radmanovic
I'm not as good as I once was...and that's just the cold, hard truth.
yi? haddadi?
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
the dennis rodman / ben wallace of his generation!
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
minus the talent
"He's the ultimate zone buster." – Bill Land on Gary Neal
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Dec 8, 2011 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
plus a stroke
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
so wait, lebron’s gonna play 1, wade 2, battier 3, bosh 4/5, haslem 4/5..
with house, chalmers, joel anthony, and miller coming off the bench..
that team’s gonna suck big time.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
Thank God we didn’t let them sign TJ Ford.
Unbelievable Time distortion space is the place Mean Gene Okerlund go down that lonesome highway but don't be hypnotized no- reincarnation doesn't have to be you can concentrate and you can-mental telepathy YEAH! But the beat goes on.
by SpursfanSteve on Dec 8, 2011 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
he would have surely put them in the finals.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t care how pretty they look. Eventually, they have to get it done in the playoffs. Bron Bron won’t get it done!
"If you run, you'll just go to jail tired!" TJ73
by TrooperJoe73 on Dec 8, 2011 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
i hate the heat with a passion, but there’s one small problem with your argument. it’s about 6-4, 220. no, im not talking about pat riley’s ego.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
i dont want to look like im arguing for the heat, but cmon… have you played 2k11? dude’s a created player. im glad theyre in the east.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
As much as i dislike Lebron’s attitude, you can’t doubt his talent.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
How about his heart and desire int he 4th quarter?
"If you run, you'll just go to jail tired!" TJ73
by TrooperJoe73 on Dec 8, 2011 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
They have Battier now. He can enter the game whenever James soils his shorts.
(",)
by day_late_friend on Dec 8, 2011 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
All that I get, but to say he can’t play the 1 is wrong in my opinion.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
zactly. will he be the best point in the league? idk. prolly not (numbers-wise, ie assists to turnover, etc), but for the most part, he could get it done.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
LarryCoon Larry Coon
So I’ve been offline for a couple hours. Is the Louisiana Purchase still a done deal? Are we still in NATO?
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RT @AlexSontyHoops: Curt Flood is now a Philly. RT @kevinarnovitz: Breaking: NBA reinstitutes the reserve clause. Andy Messersmith retur …
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No doubt Lakers fans will warmly embrace Pau now. #CP3jokes
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kevinarnovitz Kevin Arnovitz
Breaking: NBA reinstitutes the reserve clause. Andy Messersmith returns to the Dodgers.
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FalseHoop FalseHoop
RT @johnhollinger: In the old days, Stern would’ve just made sure Scola and Martin failed their physicals. He’s losing his touch. #CP3jokes
johnhollinger John Hollinger
RT @netw3rk: Maybe next time make sure your puppet actually is aware of the strings.
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FalseHoop FalseHoop
The real question: What does Goran Dragic think about all of this? #CP3jokes
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Buss already owns a piece. RT @pdxMRose: Is Jerry Buss going to by the Hornets so that the trade can go through?
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No. RT @EverythingLaker: Do players have a recession period for new CBA?
about a minute ago
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RT @FalseHoop: CP3 should feel proud tonight. He’s so good the league couldn’t let the Lakers have him. #CP3jokes
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They always say Chris Paul can get anywhere with the ball he wants to. Well, not ANYWHERE, I guess … #CP3jokes
I'm not as good as I once was...and that's just the cold, hard truth.
Chris Sheridan @sheridanhoops 4 mins
I’m told there is a school of thought in informed circles that Stern vetoed C.Paul trade because a D.Howard-to-LA trade was coming up next.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
Yeah I can’t tell if that’s a joke or not
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
neither can i
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
They’re the only team with the assets to pull of both trades, so… yeah.
First you must find... another shrubbery! Then, when you have found the shrubbery, you must place it here, beside this shrubbery, only slightly higher so you get a two layer effect with a little path running down the middle. Then, you must cut down the mightiest tree in the forrest... with... a herring!
so youre from the school of thought that says this isnt a joke…
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
I think it only had about a 10% chance of happening. But even that would’ve spooked the rest of the league something fierce.
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cp3 to the lakers, i can take. but dwight? fuck it, this will look like the wwe
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
Well the CP3 Trade being cancelled is the equivalent of Cena being drafted to Smackdown and then back to Raw in the same night
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
yeah, but we would know that it’s the writers’ fault.
unless the nba has scripts too……….
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
TP for JS
Josh Smith would be nice. We now have TJ Ford and Joseph at PG!
"If you run, you'll just go to jail tired!" TJ73
Thoughts on
Chauncey Billups in order to trade TP?
"If you run, you'll just go to jail tired!" TJ73
by TrooperJoe73 on Dec 8, 2011 10:53 PM CST up reply actions
Why you wanna trade TP?
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
activity=productivity?
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
Actually, don’t answer that.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
by bj1der on Dec 8, 2011 10:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Just brain storming. Getting antsy with all the activity and Spurs laying in wait!
"If you run, you'll just go to jail tired!" TJ73
by TrooperJoe73 on Dec 8, 2011 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
rec'd.
Unbelievable Time distortion space is the place Mean Gene Okerlund go down that lonesome highway but don't be hypnotized no- reincarnation doesn't have to be you can concentrate and you can-mental telepathy YEAH! But the beat goes on.
by SpursfanSteve on Dec 8, 2011 11:07 PM CST up reply actions
Odom and Paul reportedly planning to skip first day of camp tomorrow.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
lamar, gasol, paul, and RJ can play pickup…
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
Vince Carter can join them. Any truth to the Spurs looking at Vincanity?
"If you run, you'll just go to jail tired!" TJ73
by TrooperJoe73 on Dec 8, 2011 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
hope not, lasting we need is RJ 3.0
"You learn that one person really doesn’t get anything done. In any business, in any endeavor, the people around you have to be good people and have to be able to work together. That’s where the real joy is – when you’re sharing success with somebody." - Pop
by The Watchers on Dec 8, 2011 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, the firsting we need to look at is whether our signee would be a significant upgrade from rj.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
can the Spurs just sign Bruce, and let him mentor Leonard I see alot of potential with the kid.. Ala Karate kid
"You learn that one person really doesn’t get anything done. In any business, in any endeavor, the people around you have to be good people and have to be able to work together. That’s where the real joy is – when you’re sharing success with somebody." - Pop
Hey was it Josh Howard that was suppose to make their decision by the end of tonight?
"You and I have unfinished business." - Beatrix Kiddo
Grant Hill, I thought by this afternoon.
"If you run, you'll just go to jail tired!" TJ73
by TrooperJoe73 on Dec 8, 2011 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
He’s not coming to the Spurs, per Don Harris, who knows him personally.
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Because they’re BEST FRIENDS
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
So we’re stuck with Howard? Ugh….
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
We don’t even have him, necessarily. There’s a reason the Spurs haven’t actually announced RJ’s jettison.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
Tee hee
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest." --Willy Wonka
by SleepCrack on Dec 9, 2011 10:38 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
GOL
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 9, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
The only news we’ve heard was from SA’s Don Harris, saying that Hill wasn’t coming here. But that’s unconfirmed.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 8, 2011 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
great. another player that “we didnt want anyway.”
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 11:03 PM CST up reply actions
I’d still be fine with LRMaM.
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?
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
Luc Richard Mbah a Moute. Can’t score to save his life, but would be great for mentoring Kawhi Leonard in the ways of NBA defense, since he’s one of the best.
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i honestly havent seen much of him… but at this rate, id be happy if we got anyone.
well, not really anyone….
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
It sounds sad though that he’s still young and he’s mentoring someone already. Like he got old really fast.
by silverandblack_davis on Dec 9, 2011 3:38 AM CST up reply actions
This beautiful specimen right here >>
He preaches defense, and is a solid player.
You might also know him from this>>
Not one of his finer moments. GOL at the indian guy, that was an instant classic
Hey, I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule.
by UkraineIsGame2u on Dec 8, 2011 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
link fail.
Hey, I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule.
by UkraineIsGame2u on Dec 8, 2011 11:32 PM CST up reply actions
blarghhh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpZwNt_KvL0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J30EOwUdjIA
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by UkraineIsGame2u on Dec 8, 2011 11:33 PM CST up reply actions
The more I watch that play against the Bucks, the more I think that was not what was supposed to happen. I think the play was designed for Richard to get an easy shot in the lane. Manu was probably supposed to go earlier, Bonner would have rotated to the top of the key, and if not for great D by LRMaM, Manu would have an easy pass either to RJ or Bonner, depending on defensive rotations.
Or, I could be completely wrong. Glad it turned out the way it did :)
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by SpursfanSteve on Dec 8, 2011 11:46 PM CST up reply actions
The first video made me imagine what it’d be like having Bogut partnering with Duncan on the frontcourt.
I don’t blame him in the second video, as if there’s somebody capable of stopping The Awesomeness.
(",)
by day_late_friend on Dec 8, 2011 11:47 PM CST up reply actions
gotta agree with the owners on CP3
how could you let an NBA owned team trade their franchise player before the franchise is sold? it totally tanks the value of the investment. i know cp3 said he wasn’t going to resign but that should be discussed between him and the new owner..
you have a point, but i dont think thats why it was vetoed…
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Dec 8, 2011 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
Plus, what’s more valuable long term, a franchise player, or a winning team? NOH was definitely on the winning end of that trade.
Unbelievable Time distortion space is the place Mean Gene Okerlund go down that lonesome highway but don't be hypnotized no- reincarnation doesn't have to be you can concentrate and you can-mental telepathy YEAH! But the beat goes on.
by SpursfanSteve on Dec 8, 2011 11:26 PM CST up reply actions
take a look at the new NBA and ask yourself that question again
by iheartyourfart on Dec 8, 2011 11:48 PM CST up reply actions
Actually, the opposite is true. A year from now, Paul is out the door, and the franchise gets nothing in return. This is the same scenario that Carmelo Anthony created with the Nuggets. Once a player has made it clear he is leaving, you can certainly be stubborn and force him to honor that last year of his contract, but it is smarter to trade him now and get something in return. This is what good GMs do. Demps is a good GM, who found a pretty darn good deal. Stern nixed it, and today he claims it was for the good of the Hornets. But the Hornets are not going to find a better deal, and their big star is now more determined to leave than ever, and they will get nothing in return. How is this good for the Hornets?
I despise the Lakers, but this is a very different situation from the one in which the Lakers acquired Gasol. The Lakers, Hornets, and Rockets all gave up something and all gained from this deal. It is ludicrous that Stern, or some collection of owners, should reject this deal. This really hurts the NBA. And it’s right on the heels of the damn lock-out. Really bad business.
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by quincyscott on Dec 9, 2011 7:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i don’t think paul’s answer is set in stone. new owner might move the franchise to a big market, lure other superstars, etc. letting cp3 go before free agency unnecessarily makes too many decisions for the new owner before he’s in place.
by iheartyourfart on Dec 9, 2011 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
It would hurt the NBA if the deal went through as well. There is no good way for the NBA to proceed. They are in the "damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. The deal happens, all fans outside of Lakers fans and a few others are mad. It doesn’t happen, we get this…
But I’d argue that NO doesn’t get anything that great out of the deal if Gasol goes to Houston. They get a bunch of players and Odom, but I wouldn’t say the get back good value relative to the player they sent over.
Whether I agree or disagree with the voiding the deal is another story, but the talent gained isn’t that great.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Their contracts are more tradable. Pau is making 18 million this season. The Hornets could have easily flip either Scola or Odom for young players and a pick or for a starting PG if they wanted to make the playoffs this season. Let’s say they send Odom and Jack to Atlanta for Hinrich, Pachulia and a pick. They get a starting lineup of Hinrich-Martin-Ariza-Scola-Okafor. That team could make the playoffs.
The other thing they are getting by sending Gasol to the Rockets is a young player in Dragic and a pick.
It was a pretty good deal for all involved. If the headline hadn’t been Paul to the Lakers, it would have gone through.
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
That is a lot of ifs though. The trade makes the Lakers a super strong team and doesn’t help NO much except gets them some midrange talent. It is OK for NO, good for Houston, and great for Lakers. If NO got some good draft picks it would be a different story.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
by grego21 on Dec 10, 2011 8:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I’m looking at these teams finding it so hard to get a good team together and it just amazes me how easily the Spurs do it. I really think the Spurs are just one Superstar away from having a core together again. One trade for a high draft pick that turns into a star and the Spurs can be right back there.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
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Sources: Dwight Howard’s representatives preparing to ask for a trade to Nets.
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Good… good.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 9, 2011 7:58 AM CST up reply actions
I’m happy to see folks rushing to support Hornets GM nee Spurs VP, Dell Demps, amidst this cavalcade of bullsh-t.
The man just pulled off a trade that would make even former-Charlotte Hornets’ fans weep! Hell, it would have made him an early front-runner for 2011-12 ‘Executive of the Year’!
I mean, Luis Scola, Goran Dragic, Kevin Martin and Mr. Khloe Kardashian for a player (Chris Paul) that’s not going to let the door hit his ass on the way out in 2012? C’mon, NBA. It’s absurd that Dell Demps isn’t allowed to do the job he’s paid to do because of butthurt NBA owners "basketball reasons’.
Unbeliavable. ::smh::
Yeah, but if you think about it. They did that for Paul. Now, if NO kept Gasol, you could make a stronger argument. Dragic is overrated. There’s a reason why he would have been on his 4th team. He had one great game against the Spurs and is decent, but overrated. KMart, is decent as well, but not great.
So essentially, it is Luis Scola and Lamar who are borderline all-star players. That doesn’t mean they aren’t awesome, but if you think about it. The two “sure thing” all-stars are Paul and Gasol.
Now, I think the NBA should have killed the deal much sooner if they were going to do this, but to say that deal was really good, is not right either.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Demps got the best deal he could for on of the top poings in the game. It’s impossible, IMPOSSIBLE to get a return value for NutChuck!Paul, unless Kevin Durant or Deron Williams is coming over. Taking on Pau Gasol’s massive salary does not benefit a team that’s bankrupt.
Gasol was going to Houston
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by gunnin' gervin on Dec 9, 2011 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
Gasol isn’t in NO. Scola is good, but Odom and Scola isn’t exactly upgrading the front line like Gasol/Scola or Gasol/Odom.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
C’mon, I know Pau Gasol didn’t go to Nawlins; my earlier comment upthread clearly indicates that.
What I meant, was that Nawlins may not be in a position to take on Gasol’s massive salary in addition to Lamar Odom’s. League-owned or not, the team is not solvent. Matching talent is great, but there are financial concerns to think of.
by transgojobot on Dec 10, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
Which makes the argument for the owners to nix the current form of the trade. I would not do this current trade.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
by grego21 on Dec 10, 2011 8:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
In seven months, Paul walks anyway, and Demps gets nothing in return. Aren’t the above players better than nothing?
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There are other teams that will try to get Paul. Heck, Paul is likely gone by trade whether it is sign/trade or not.
The above players are better than nothing, but most deals turn into sign and trade (so the player can get paid more. In the end, Paul will likely move to a big team. Maybe even the Lakers still, but more teams will be involved or more talent will be sucked away from Lakers.
I’d bet on Paul moving by trade at some point and that the team likely does better. Some team or teams will make it happen. Guys like paul aren’t that common.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
PJ the prophet
The [Hornets] were recently bought by the NBA, which prompted Jackson to say: “Not happy about that.”
Jackson put forth a scenario where Hornets star Chris Paul might revive his demand for a trade, and Jackson wondered how the league could manage being the one deciding which other franchise would get Paul.
“Who’s going to pull the button on it?” Jackson asked. “When Chris says he has to be traded, how’s that going to go? … Someone’s going to have to make a very nonjudgmental decision on that part that’s not going to irritate anyone else in the league.”
Another one bites the dust.
@paulcoro: Grant Hill has agreed to return to the Suns for a one-year, $6.5 million contract.
CAN WE PANIC NOW???
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 9, 2011 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
Yes, we can panic officially. I do not want Vinceanity coming to SA. I would rather have Jefferson. It looks like its down to:
—Josh Howard
—Vince Carter
—Reggie Williams
—Mo Evans
—Bostjian Nachbar
I guarantee you Carter would not come to San Antonio, so you can scratch him.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
I’d much rather have RJ than Carter.
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You must really hate you some Carter. Hes got issues, but theres no way he chokes as hard as RJ did in the playoffs.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
You’re right, he doesn’t choke, because he doesn’t even try.
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VC gives so little effort. Now that he has a lot less athleticism, he can’t get away with his half player, half effort type of crap.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Lets not forget its Carter who the Spurs originally wanted. Who knows how things would have turned out if the Spurs get Carter instead of Rage. At worst, the Spurs are a little bit better with Carer, IMO.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
Yes, but a few years have passed by and neither have impressed.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
by grego21 on Dec 10, 2011 8:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Guess there was no surprise waiting for Friday. I was hoping there would be a deal or something, but it really may be as bad a we’ve been fearing
That is the Spurs’ reason for getting up in the morning.
Metaphorically speaking, they can sleep when they are dead, and they aren’t dead yet.
FA/trade transaction can start in 12 minutes. Nothing before then.
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I’m honestly OK with rolling with the SFs we have. Yes it would be nice to have a veteran presence there to right the ship in the event the youngins flip out occasionally, but I don’t think it’s imperative.
The player I would like to pick up, if Dice calls it quits is Fesenko from Utah. Kid’s a defensive beast, but needs a little discipline. Our setup could really set him right.
by thedrizzl on Dec 9, 2011 12:47 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I agree with the small forward solution but not the big guy solution you posted
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by gunnin' gervin on Dec 9, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
agreed
Hey, I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule.
by UkraineIsGame2u on Dec 9, 2011 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
same here. what about a guy like Aaron Gray? not that he’s gonna all of a sudden make a huge improvement, but he did show a little potential in the playoffs.
"You know the difference between you and me? I make this look GOOD." - Agent J, Men In Black
Which is why he’ll be tough to get now.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
because he’ll want more money or it’s because the Hornets only have 5 or 6 players under contract and they need more guys. am i right? :)
"You know the difference between you and me? I make this look GOOD." - Agent J, Men In Black
We’ve inquired about David West…
I'm not as good as I once was...and that's just the cold, hard truth.
He’d be a good pick up. Solid midrange shooter. Would fit well with Duncan. His attitude of course sucks, but not likely going to happen. Although he does happen to admire Duncan, so perhaps he’d like playing in SA.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Huuuuuge injury risk.
West could cripple the Spurs for years.
Depends on what you move to get him. Everything is a risk, but you take some risk in the TD/Manu/Parker years. Yes, Parker isn’t that old yet, but his speed is a big part of his game and that won’t be around in 5 years.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
One big splash
If we could land Nene or West , we’d massively improve, I think they would have to get creative and backload the contract, but I think it could be done considering that Duncan’s contract is going to come off the books next year, If we could restructure his deal and add some years to it, amnesty RJ, I think we could get it done. But I don’t know how basketball contracts work.
I hope that Billups does not land in Miami if NY does amnesty him. He’s old, but he’d be a major upgrade at pg for them
That is the Spurs’ reason for getting up in the morning.
Metaphorically speaking, they can sleep when they are dead, and they aren’t dead yet.
by NotDeadYet on Dec 9, 2011 3:23 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Outside of the big players, every guy is an upgrade for them. Battier is a really good one.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Geez Louise. We don’t need another SF. Shortened season – let the kids learn. I can’t wait to see Kawhi (I don’t think he’s Konomi anymore due to the new 2k update) and Butler. The chip on Butler’s shoulder has to be the size of like 8 Frito Big Scoops and a Wavy Lay.
Just another big, now. Lorby, WHERE ARE YOU!?!?!
(Is Cousin still with HOU?)
can't forget Matty, if you did you'd feel gyped
like your sandwich ain't a sandwich without Miracle Whip
For Caron Butler (has a few years), Hill or Battier (veteran upgrades), you try and upgrade. Otherwise, you stick to your guns.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
by grego21 on Dec 9, 2011 4:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Timmy
Has there been any actual indications he’s going to retire at the end of his deal? Seems like he still could have a sizeable role for a few more seasons
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
McDyess trade imminent?
Spurs Nation quoted Pop as saying basically they knew what was going to happen with McDyess, they just weren’t sure when. Perhaps waiting on Warriors (Biedrins) or Clippers (Kaman) to fill their rosters before making a trade?
Here we go again…
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 25 mins
Progress on reconstruction of Chris Paul three-way deal to Lakers: “Conversation is positive, but still a ways to go,” official tells Y!
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
I read that Demps came close to quitting, then decided to give it another shot.
I truly hope, for New Orleans’ sake, that they can put this behind them, find some decent ownership, and make a go of it. And I also truly think Stern needs to retire.
All these GIFs are breaking my browser.
ESPNLandOLakers Kamenetzky Brothers
RT @LarryCoon: I heard Lakers, Rox & Hornets working deep into the night to restructure CP3 trade so it will bring more money to Cleveland.
No matter what happens with the CP3 trade Dan Gilbert will still be left holding that bag o’ crap know as the Cavs.
"Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it." olf
by lazNirv on Dec 10, 2011 12:48 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
so damn true
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by gunnin' gervin on Dec 10, 2011 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
OK, this is just ridiculous…
daldridgetnt
Source: Celtics close to deal with free agent forward David West. Story up soon on NBA.com.
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i’m sure it’s a sign-and-trade, right? because they don’t have the cap for him.
"You know the difference between you and me? I make this look GOOD." - Agent J, Men In Black
Probably. Boston was trying to chase Paul, so they moved onto target#2. Maybe they’ll move Jeff Green, as was rumored.
They say every time Pop smiles, an angel is told to stop being so fu--ing lazy and play some defense. -Hipuks 2/3/11
Bill Simmons thinks it might be a double sign and trade—Jeff Green for West.
Either way, the rich continue to get richer and the Spurs are still waiting on Josh Howard.
Well, nevermind.
Jeff Green just signed a one year deal w Boston. They’ll have Rondo/Allen/Pierce/Green/West/Garnett and probably a free agent center. Wow.
Spurs will always be more limited. That’s why their front office is just that much more amazing when you see all their success.
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by grego21 on Dec 10, 2011 8:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Chandler to New York. Damn, major, MAJOR ugrade. They will now have at least one player that defends. What a frontcourt, Chandler, Amare and Melo.
These guys are going to upset someone, they probably could have beat Boston if Amare wouldnt have gotten injured in the playoffs last season.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
Chandler is EXACTLY what you need alongside Stoudamire. The Knicks have the best frontcourt in the league now. Scary team right there if they can fill the other holes smartly.
"Kevin Garnett once described defending Tim Duncan as "trying to guard a tree"
Yep, they’re gonna be good. I still think CHI/MIA are better, but we’ll see.
First you must find... another shrubbery! Then, when you have found the shrubbery, you must place it here, beside this shrubbery, only slightly higher so you get a two layer effect with a little path running down the middle. Then, you must cut down the mightiest tree in the forrest... with... a herring!
Now, Amare can breathe a sigh of relief and not have to worry about weak-side defending/rebounding; not that he was doing much of that anyway.
I do agree that it’s a serious upgrade for that squad. Now, they have to find themselves a solid ball distributor with Billups gone.
by transgojobot on Dec 10, 2011 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
i think gilbert arenas deserves a long term deal
#isaiahthomaslogic
by iheartyourfart on Dec 10, 2011 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
Finally!...a solid pickup.
Spurs have picked up 6-11 Luke Zeller, basically another version of Matt Bonner. Slow, un-athletic, plays little D and shoots lights out from 3 pt range. Averaged an impressive 4 ppg and 2.5 rpg over 4 years at Notre Dame. (Take THAT Boston!)
Im not really worried about the SF situation. The Spurs can just reclaim Rage or use a combo of Butler and Greene to fill in when Konami isnt playing, but they absolutely must get another big man….Im getting kind of worried here.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
Jermaine O’Neal for Dice’s contract and a first rounder?
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
O’Neal hasn’t been worth a first rounder in like 5 years.
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by SpursfanSteve on Dec 10, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
The pickings are slim in terms of big men. I would give up a late first rounder for a rotation big. I don’t know if O’Neal is healthy but I’d rather get him than Kwame Brown. It won’t happen, so it’s a moot point.
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
Reclaim?
The team hasn’t officially cut Jefferson yet, right? I think the Spurs wanted to see if they could find a solid replacement (which we haven’t) before they cut him.
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by gunnin' gervin on Dec 10, 2011 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
I am amazed…AMAZED at how high some people over here value Da’Sean Butler and Danny Green. Green was a two year starter in college who’s only played a handful of NBA games and Butler hasn’t played a (college) game in basically two years, with not one minute of NBA experience. Leonard is almost as ready as those two are at playing at the NBA level. The difference between RJ and Green/Butler is night and day. There is zero chance whatsoever that those two will be competing for a starting spot…both will be lucky to even make the team.
Your right about Butler. But Green has showed promise the times I have seen him on the floor. There were times when he probably should have gotten most of the minutes RJ was wasting. ( I am pretty sure Green took some of RJ’s playoff minutes) Green is more athletic than RJ is at this point in his career and he is probably about as good defensively.
A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.
With Butler, isn’t it a bit like saying that Blake Griffin had not played a game in over a year before the start of last year? If he hadn’t suffered an injury in the NCAA Tournament, wasn’t he likely to be a first round pick? It seems very little value is being placed on him, I’ve barely noticed him mentioned. I’d think if both he and James Anderson are fully healthy that they give the Spurs along with Leonard some of the best young talent they’ve had for years. Green seems like he could become solid enough coming off the bench.
Butler is probably going to be really bad in camp, given how much time he went without playing competitive b-ball. It’s a tough call which of him or Green has the most potential, but with Butler, Spurs have the advantage of being able to assign him to the Toros.
First you must find... another shrubbery! Then, when you have found the shrubbery, you must place it here, beside this shrubbery, only slightly higher so you get a two layer effect with a little path running down the middle. Then, you must cut down the mightiest tree in the forrest... with... a herring!
Agree with what you’re saying, and I’d also like to add that Green has shown a lot of aggression on both ends of the floor, which Pop historically likes. He’s not afraid to take a big shot or put it on the floor and try to finish at the rim. Is he a starter? Maybe not this year. But he’s a solid rotation player, and I’ll be pissed if he doesn’t make the roster.
Unbelievable Time distortion space is the place Mean Gene Okerlund go down that lonesome highway but don't be hypnotized no- reincarnation doesn't have to be you can concentrate and you can-mental telepathy YEAH! But the beat goes on.
by SpursfanSteve on Dec 10, 2011 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
Utah Jazz
I’m surprised nobody has tried to trade for one of the Jazz big guys yet. They have some very interesting trade pieces out there overall besides the big dudes. I wish there was some way our guys could pry away Favors without trading any of the big 3
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