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Game Preview: Utah Jazz at San Antonio Spurs

San Antonio Spurs vs Utah Jazz

AT&T Center
12/31/11, 6:30 PM Spurs Time
TV: NBA TV - RADIO: 1200 WOAI

Well that was ugly. It seems we either blow out our opponents and Duncan gets to rest, or we get blown out and Duncan gets to rest. As Pop said, "...it was a great opportunity to treat [the game] like training camp...treat it like practice." With a shortened season, there will be many games like the previous one. Especially until we find a solid backup big.

Star-divide

Lineups

Starters
PG: Tony Parker
SG: Manu Ginobili
SF: Richard Jefferson
PF: Tim Duncan
C: DeJuan Blair

Key Bench Players
Tiago Splitter
Kawhi Leonard
James Anderson

Lineups

Starters
PG: Devin Harris
SG: Raja Bell
SF: Gordon Hayward
PF: Derrick Favors
C: Al Jefferson

Key Bench Players
Paul Millsap
Josh Howard
CJ Miles

I'm terrified of the Jazz, if I'm honest. And I am honest since my mother raised me that way. I'm not terrified that we will lose to them (I prefer to think we've had enough rest in between games). I am terrified because I don't want us to become like them when Pop retires. It's not that the Jazz are a bad team, they just seem to have no direction. They have so many weapons firing off in all directions that it's impossible to mount a successful attack. They have a decent point guard (hey! remember when we thought New Jersey was getting the better end of that deal for Kidd?) who works best as a bigger mini Tony Parker, but then you have a big guy who just wants to hold onto the ball for 15 seconds before pirouetting toward the basket for a lay up. I can see the Jazz making some noise in the regular season, maybe even making the playoffs after some cohesion time. But at the moment they're still reeling under the effects of a Jerry Sloan hangover, and the Spurs definitely ain't the cure.

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Since when did we stop making predictions and match-up analyses?
Don’t get me wrong, this is a good preview. Everything you say is correct, Jordan. So this is not a hit on you, it’s just something I’ve been noticing.

Also, let’s beat these guys, and beat them in the first half if it’s possible.

"That’s cool." - Duncan on his near quadruple-double in game 6 of the 2003 NBA Finals.

by Bakkie009 on Dec 31, 2011 7:24 AM CST reply actions  

We have a new preview format. Obviously. We are trying it out this year to see how it goes. This format is vastly easier for our Previewers to work and put together.

What are your thoughts?

by Big50 on Dec 31, 2011 8:28 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Well, the texts are always (as they have always been) right on the money. But I really liked reading the match-up analyses. It’s also nice to read something like “Prediction: Spurs Win, but it’ll be a close one.” or something like that. Guess we’ll have to do that now ;)

Spurs win, but it’ll be a close one.

"That’s cool." - Duncan on his near quadruple-double in game 6 of the 2003 NBA Finals.

by Bakkie009 on Dec 31, 2011 8:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Spurs win by 15 imho. Jazz are on a back to back and aren’t the team they used to be

"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."

-Timothy Varner 48MoH

by Jordan Leithart on Dec 31, 2011 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Are we not doing match up previews, predictions etc this year? Haven’t seen them this year yet..

<++ If Dejuan Blair had ACLs, nobody would ever get a rebound ++>

by Galfusica on Dec 31, 2011 7:27 AM CST reply actions  

Ah.. Bakkie just asked the same question! :)

<++ If Dejuan Blair had ACLs, nobody would ever get a rebound ++>

by Galfusica on Dec 31, 2011 7:27 AM CST up reply actions  

See above.

by Big50 on Dec 31, 2011 8:28 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Wrecked.

"That’s cool." - Duncan on his near quadruple-double in game 6 of the 2003 NBA Finals.

by Bakkie009 on Dec 31, 2011 8:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Now that is analysis.

All these GIFs are breaking my browser.

by quincyscott on Dec 31, 2011 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

and now, you’re green for that!

RJ 3.0's possessed!

by tp_09 on Dec 31, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

match up analysis

"got him at 42……Chad Ford can’t keep up with RC ‘Bargin Basement’ Buford."

Spurs Yoda on Draft Night 2011

by Joe deLarios on Dec 31, 2011 8:55 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

That might be a good link to put in the previews.

Free Cory Joseph!

by Tim C. on Dec 31, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Say, that’s a pretty sweet page. Bookmarking it.

All these GIFs are breaking my browser.

by quincyscott on Dec 31, 2011 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks Artis, thats a fantastic unbiased analysis.

by indiancharlie on Dec 31, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

I’m not quite sure how I did it, but I did get it to substitute Milsap for Jefferson in the starting lineup (what they used last night). The starting unit would then be 7-22 in FG shooting, and only 1-11 from outside the paint.

by Alamo on Dec 31, 2011 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Utah played last night. Jefferson sat out with an inflamed right ankle with Milsap starting in his place. Favors scored 20 with 11 rebounds, Milsap 14 and 14. Rookie Enes Kanter has averaged just under 17 minutes per game with an average of 4.3 points and 7.3 rebounds.

by Alamo on Dec 31, 2011 9:02 AM CST reply actions  

I hope Jefferson plays for them tonight. Pretty sure they won last night because of his absence.

You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime

by the little o on Dec 31, 2011 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Da’Sean Butler played in his 2nd Toros game last night and scored 13 points coming off the bench. Eric Dawson may be the leading candidate for a call up as a 6’9" big averaging 17.8 points, 10.3 reb, 2.8 assists and 1.3 blocks over 6 games. The next Toros game are Thursday and Friday at home, might Neal get in some work with them?

by Alamo on Dec 31, 2011 9:17 AM CST reply actions  

Thanks for keeping up with them. I think they’d hold Dawson down as long as they can so that he gets enough time with the system since Spurs have little to no practices. That way, the team can evaulate him for that 4th big.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Dec 31, 2011 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m going to have to rediscover the wonderful world of p2p feeds tonight. Joy.

by LatinD on Dec 31, 2011 10:22 AM CST reply actions  

Happy new year people—-hopefully, SA won’t spoil my 1st day in 2012.

RJ 3.0's possessed!

by tp_09 on Dec 31, 2011 10:55 AM CST reply actions  

Coach Popovich’s Top Five New Year’s Resolutions:

5. Stop being so nice to the media.
4. Kill Prokhorov.
3. Drug Craig Sager and ship him to Sudan.
2. Finish that goddamn Sudoku book that Danny Ferry bought me.
1. Kill Danny Ferry.

Duke of Bexar

by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Dec 31, 2011 11:06 AM CST reply actions  

I was about to post RC’s “resolutions” after reading this, but it’s just too mean.

Free Cory Joseph!

by Tim C. on Dec 31, 2011 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Im hyped up about this Center. We need to sign him. Check him out.

http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/chris_daniels/index.html

Do or do not! There is no try!

by Spurs Yoda on Dec 31, 2011 11:49 AM CST reply actions  

His stats look terrific and hes big, but alot of D leaguers hold both of those distinctions. Those inflated stats dont translate to the NBA 99 pct of the time.

A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.

by alamobro on Dec 31, 2011 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree, but no wants the Nba free market agents i previously posted. This guy adds size and potential. Give him a ten day contract.

Do or do not! There is no try!

by Spurs Yoda on Dec 31, 2011 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

It seems the rumors are that Haddadi might sign again with Memphis for just over $1M (seems cheap) and that Fesenko now will not be going to Golden State but possibly Dallas. Ian had a nice game for Dallas last night, so maybe there will be 2nd thoughts about how much time Fesenko could get with Haywood, Ian and Sean Williams already on the roster.

by Alamo on Dec 31, 2011 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I havent seen Fesenko play, what are his strengths?

A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.

by alamobro on Dec 31, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Think Kevin Willis in his Spurs years.

Will argue against trading #45 until I am blue in the face and your eyes and ears are bleeding.

by SpursfanSteve on Dec 31, 2011 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Yea, but Willis was also somewhat of an enforcer. I remember at least one instance of him knocking someone on their ass who had dared to foul one of the Spurs hard.

A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.

by alamobro on Dec 31, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

This and wrecked

"got him at 42……Chad Ford can’t keep up with RC ‘Bargin Basement’ Buford."

Spurs Yoda on Draft Night 2011

by Joe deLarios on Dec 31, 2011 5:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Right- Fesenko may not have Willis’ attitude yet, but the bruising, fouling play style is similar.

Will argue against trading #45 until I am blue in the face and your eyes and ears are bleeding.

by SpursfanSteve on Dec 31, 2011 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.

by alamobro on Dec 31, 2011 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

IMO it’s more likely the Spurs bring back Oberto, or package some wings and guards for an established big, before they sign a completely unproven commodity like this guy.

A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.

by alamobro on Dec 31, 2011 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

If I were the Spurs, I don’t think there’d be any wings or guards that I’d be willing to package that have a salary of more than $1M. That won’t get much unless they decide to include RJ or Bonner, in which case they trade one depth problem for another.

by Alamo on Dec 31, 2011 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe Oberto or some of their D-League guys. No way they are trading their wings, not for a 4th big.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Dec 31, 2011 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I think that depends on who the big is. And it would be the 3rd big, if you arent counting Blair as a bigman.

A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.

by alamobro on Dec 31, 2011 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Spurs count Blair as a big so it would be 4th big. Spurs would have to trade a lot of their key likely future “core”

Spurs lost their best asset in McDyess so it’s pretty much guaranteed that Spurs aren’t doing any trades for anything big named. if there is a trade, it’s going to be something people yawn over (aside from Spurs fans).

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Dec 31, 2011 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

We shall see, though from my humble and largely uninformed perspective, I agree that a significant trade is unlikely.

On the other hand, the Spurs could probably survive with trading a couple of their guards, and or Bonner with Blair, especially if its a bigman at Mcdyess quality level.

A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.

by alamobro on Dec 31, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

If someone wanted Bonner/Blair (cheap contracts) and some talent, they probably would have bit already. I don’t think Anderson/Leonard/Joseph are worth giving up.

I don’t think anyone cares about any of the other Spurs youth aside from them.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Dec 31, 2011 7:23 PM CST up reply actions  

He’s 27 years old, so it would seem if he were going to make it he might have by now. He’s the 11th leading rebounder in the dleague. More interesting might be Greg Smith, formerly of Fresno State and a recent cut by the Rockets. He’s 6’10", and in his first dleague game had 4 blocks, 18 points and 11 rebounds for Rio Grande vs. Texas Legends.

by Alamo on Dec 31, 2011 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Greg Smith being only 20 years old.

by Alamo on Dec 31, 2011 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Smith apparently was somewhat of a surprise to not be drafted after declaring early. Most noted in draftexpress for his big hands. I expect it would not be worth giving him an NBA contract to have him sit on the bench or play with the Toros, though maybe later in the year he might get offered a 10 day contract ala Larry Owens and company.

by Alamo on Dec 31, 2011 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

There you go and thank you. Somebody actually looking at young talent instead of older guys or bottom feeder bench warmer dudes. LOL. I would like to see us get somebody who is actually in there early 20’s some what athletic and hasn’t been wasting away on another NBA roster.

No more older guys and no more fat slow dudes should be mentioned. LOL

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Dec 31, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

The only “older” guy I’ve given much consideration to is Haddadi, who is all of 26. I tend to think he did not get as much playing time as he might have earned because Memphis was paying way more for both Marc Gasol and Thabeet to play center. The next oldest guy would be Ajinca at 23. Since the Spurs traded away Thomas, Bowen and Oberto; I’ve wanted them to not have anyone older than Tim.

by Alamo on Dec 31, 2011 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I know you haven’t and that is why I am thanking you for bringing up younger guys. I even stated that above. But other people are talking about bringing in Older guys.

Haddadi might be a solid fit and Ajinca still has time to maybe figure shit out but I think he might be a lost cause. LOL. He needs to put on muscle and learn to play defense in general

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Dec 31, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I just wish the FO would bring in a strong showing D leaguer for 10 days.

Still pissed Ian Mahammi had a strong game lastnight

Do or do not! There is no try!

by Spurs Yoda on Dec 31, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

There are several guys I wish the Spurs had never let go, but Yawn isnt one of them. Hes smoke and mirrors.

A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.

by alamobro on Dec 31, 2011 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

It was 19 point lastnight. Thats alot of smoke and mirrors. I believe he was 100 percent for his fgs too.

Do or do not! There is no try!

by Spurs Yoda on Dec 31, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

More points than Dirk

Do or do not! There is no try!

by Spurs Yoda on Dec 31, 2011 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Yawn.

A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.

by alamobro on Dec 31, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

He had better games as a Spur in games that were equally as meaningless. He cant defend big guys, has no post moves and cant rebound. That’s probably why Pop let him go.

A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.

by alamobro on Dec 31, 2011 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh my goodness, I actually had Yawn confused with Francisco Elson. Hah. Very similar players.

A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.

by alamobro on Dec 31, 2011 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m not sure if Marcus Cousin has signed with anyone after being a late cut by Houston.

by Alamo on Dec 31, 2011 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Id be for it. 6’11 and knows our system.

Do or do not! There is no try!

by Spurs Yoda on Dec 31, 2011 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

He doesn’t seem to have been signed by any NBA team since being a late cut by Houston. I’d think he’d wind up on the Rio Grande team if he turns up in the dleague, but hasn’t yet.

by Alamo on Dec 31, 2011 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I don’t know. Houston has a lot of bigs. If Smith didn’t outshine the huge set of young, athletic bigs, it might be that he’s not even close to ready or it’s just too far out there. Yes, he’s 20, but Spurs can’t wait for 20 to catch up to 25.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Dec 31, 2011 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I would think Duncan’s retirement will affect this franchise more than Pop’s retirement. But what do you all think?

by i luv this site on Dec 31, 2011 11:53 AM CST reply actions  

Hard to say. Look at Utah. Life went on as usual after Malone and Stockton left. But after Sloan? I have no idea who the Jazz are, anymore.

On a similar note, Let’s see what life is like for Kobe Bryant this year without Phil Jackson.

(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.)

by quincyscott on Dec 31, 2011 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Do or do not! There is no try!

by Spurs Yoda on Dec 31, 2011 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Life would go own in Utah if they had another real point guard. Harris doesn’t fit what they are trying to run out there in Utah. If they had a solid point guard the team would be fine.

You have to remember when Malone and Stockton first left Utah sucked until they drafted Darren Williams and Boozer tricked the Cavs front office. Sloan got the players to run the system he wanted and they were solid again.

There are a lot of coaches that suck in the NBA but they win because they have talent

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Dec 31, 2011 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

They didn’t suck but the missed the playoffs.

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Dec 31, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it depends on both. If the coach has a similar style and the players have a similar style, Spurs will maintain that path (albeit not winning as commonly).

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Dec 31, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Parker’s summary of what they worked on in practice:

"Details," Parker said. "Make sure we do the same thing. Don’t let them run their plays."

(Full disclaimer: I hate everyone.)

by quincyscott on Dec 31, 2011 1:02 PM CST reply actions  

Thanks Quincy, and on the same site it qoutes Utah’s Jefferson as a maybe.

by indiancharlie on Dec 31, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Does TP have a ferrari f430? I think he freakin sped (at least going 100) right next to me on by I-10 Dezavala this morning going towards downtown. He was drving like an asshole zooming in and out of traffic lol. The license plate said “Tony P 9”

"Dear prescription drug commercial,
It's nice to know that even though I have genital herpes, I can still go fishing.
Sincerely, thanks for giving me peace of mind."

by Cello the great on Dec 31, 2011 1:34 PM CST reply actions  

Eva trying to get away.

by indiancharlie on Dec 31, 2011 1:50 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

lol

"Dear prescription drug commercial,
It's nice to know that even though I have genital herpes, I can still go fishing.
Sincerely, thanks for giving me peace of mind."

by Cello the great on Dec 31, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

LMAO

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Dec 31, 2011 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

Do or do not! There is no try!

by Spurs Yoda on Dec 31, 2011 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Time to rebound! Go Spurs Go!
Predictions for the other games today:

Nuggets > Lakers
Pacers > Pistons
Hawks < Rockets
Suns < Thunder
Knicks > Kings
76ers > Warriors

"D'oh!"

by Marky G on Dec 31, 2011 1:55 PM CST reply actions  

Lakers/Denver might go to the wire. At the moment, it’s pretty much tied.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Dec 31, 2011 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I saw the final minutes of it. Crap! That’s one I got wrong.

"D'oh!"

by Marky G on Dec 31, 2011 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Al Jefferson doubtful today.

Do or do not! There is no try!

by Spurs Yoda on Dec 31, 2011 2:33 PM CST reply actions  

Anyone in need of a laugh ?

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/7406360/mark-cuban-says-dallas-mavericks-better-team-last-year

A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.

by alamobro on Dec 31, 2011 4:00 PM CST reply actions  

Cuban forgets that the key to the Mavs’ success last year was that their owner actually shut the hell up for the playoffs. Apparently he’s a slow learner.

"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest." --Willy Wonka

by SleepCrack on Dec 31, 2011 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

In all honesty, they may turn out to be a very good team again this year, Odom is one of those unique rangy small forwards. He did so much for the Lakers, and they would not have won either of the last two titles without him. There are two significant factors working against them this year. A big downgrade at center, and can they once again catch lightning in a bottle?

A man gets the eye of a Tiger, but a Tiger gets the eye of a Manu.

by alamobro on Dec 31, 2011 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Odom is one of the only truly positionless players, IME. He can handle the ball, rebound, and defend at least 3-5, if not 2-5.

Will argue against trading #45 until I am blue in the face and your eyes and ears are bleeding.

by SpursfanSteve on Jan 1, 2012 1:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I saw that earlier. That was funny as hell! Haha.

"D'oh!"

by Marky G on Dec 31, 2011 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey Pounders! I’ve got to work tonight… at least I get off by about 11 CT, but : GSG!

First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down.
George Burns

by oldtimeyspurfan on Dec 31, 2011 4:42 PM CST reply actions  

Damn lakers are lucky

"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili

by spursfan87 on Dec 31, 2011 4:50 PM CST reply actions  

I know. I feel sorry for Gallinari. How do you miss that lay-up?

"D'oh!"

by Marky G on Dec 31, 2011 5:05 PM CST up reply actions  

His life passed in front of him as he went ot the basket?

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Dec 31, 2011 7:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Jazz are not a good team this year

If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross

by doubleteapot on Dec 31, 2011 5:08 PM CST reply actions  

With Favors, Kanter and Hayward; they’ve got some good young players to build on.

by Alamo on Dec 31, 2011 5:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Say hello to 2012 draft which is deep.

Winter is coming

by grego21 on Dec 31, 2011 7:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Ummmmm 7:30 Spurs time, not 6:30 :-)

Do or do not! There is no try!

by Spurs Yoda on Dec 31, 2011 6:51 PM CST reply actions  

When I read

“I’m terrified of the Jazz, if I’m honest…” My reaction was to wonder what the devil you guys are smoking down in San Antonio. Then I read on and picked my jaw up off the ground. I’ve always maintained that the Spurs are a better version of the Jazz, (or what the Jazz used to be) so hopefully for you the fallout won’t be as bad once coach Pop leaves.

"Shoot baskets, not people." -AK

by DWest on Dec 31, 2011 7:32 PM CST reply actions  

That’s pretty high praise. Thanks, man.

Will argue against trading #45 until I am blue in the face and your eyes and ears are bleeding.

by SpursfanSteve on Jan 1, 2012 1:28 AM CST up reply actions  

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