Fraternizing w/the Enemy: Dave & JRW on Spurs @ Blazers
The Rodeo is in town. Which means that the Spurs are on the road again. The trip begins with Tuesday's visit to Portland, and what better way to begin the RRT, but with another in the series of email exchanges I'm doing with the SBNation bloggers who cover our oppenents? Today it's Dave, who manages the one of the kings of NBA blogs, Blazersedge. Without further ado, let's get to it. (Go and join their side of the conversation, but be sure to play well with others.)
Dave:
So, the Spurs, huh? For the Blazers this is sort of like playing against your older brother who used to school you routinely on the playground, but you finally got big and thought you caught up to him. Then you ended up in a wheelchair and he's pounding you again. At some point the enthusiasm wanes when the story doesn't change.
Don't bother delving into Portland's chronic injury problems. We're just rolling our eyes at this point. Greg Oden...out again. Brandon Roy...out indefinitely. Marcus Camby...out. Joel Przybilla...hobbled. Nicolas Batum...day to day. You know how a guy once said, "I felt sorry for myself because I had no shoes until I met a man with no feet"? The Blazers are the man with no feet.
That's not to say Portland is without joy or hope. LaMarcus Aldridge, once labeled soft, has assumed the Franchise Player mantle in the absence of Roy. His All-Star caliber play has led Portland to multiple victories, albeit against weaker teams. The easiest way to bottle up the Blazers is to stifle Aldridge, but his multi-faceted scoring ability and newfound passing acumen make that a harder prospect than it once was. Shooting guard Wesley Matthews has also stepped up. He not only scores, he provides a crucial defensive element all but missing in previous years' backcourts, even when the Blazers were winning 50+. Even casual observers will have noticed that recent Portland teams have dealt with pick and rolls the same way a fourteen-year-old guy deals with unhooking his first bra strap, looking awkward and basically clueless. Not so much this year, as Matthews and Batum provide a strong perimeter defense complementing Camby's rim-watching and shot blocking. Also in the plus column: Andre Miller has been playing seamless point guard basketball, neither sticking out trying to dominate nor retreating as he was wont to do last year.
For all of that the Blazers are still barely keeping above .500. Of their 25 wins, only 4 could be called quality. A rotten bench (unsurprising given the injuries and resulting promotions of former bench players) and erratic play from every player not mentioned in the last paragraph keep the Blazers from excelling. With far too few options they're simple to solve at this point. Stick to the basics, control Aldridge, lather-rinse-repeat until it works. Portland will play even with or even beat good teams for a quarter or two, but they're not going to prevail for 48 minutes.
Meanwhile, what are the Spurs? 108-2 now? Sheesh.
jollyrogerwilco:
Older brother. You had to start with the age jokes, huh? Couldn't have said "Big brother" could you? Well, it's all right, I suppose. If I had been the one to lead off, I would have found it difficult to NOT say something about the injuries; something conciliatory, to be sure, but I'd still have been bringing it up. And now that you're the one to bring it up:
The Blazers are the man with no feet.
What can I say to that? Honestly, there's no comeback for me there. I'm reaching into my pocket for loose change to donate to your metaphor because I'm feeling so bad about this. Sure, the Blazers have owned the Spurs for the last few years, but it never happened in the playoffs, so no serious animosity had built up among the fans. On the contrary, there are quite a few Spurs boosters at PtR who count the Blazers as their second favorite team. It was fun to root for your guys, as the up-and-coming trendy team on the rise. Portland was the OKC Thunder, before there was any Thunder (sounds kinda mythical or meteorological, doesn't it?).
And it's still fun for me to like Portland because of the Longhorn association. I live in Austin and follow the 'Horns, so LaMarcus Aldridge showing his this-is-my-team mettle is plenty fine by me, and makes it a little less like beating up on a wheelchair-bound sibling. Especially when players like Aldridge seem to be San Antonio's kryptonite. Seriously, I don't think he's had a bad game against the Spurs. Ever.
And as far as your instructions for shutting down the Blazers are concerned, it's impossible to rinse and repeat if you never could get the knack of lathering in the first place. And this year's Spurs team isn't exactly the defensive juggernaut that previous incarnations were. They've played some pretty fair defense occasionally, but not all that great, and never for very long. Which means that they're having to outscore teams. Ugh.
Which is not to say that I dislike the fact that the offense has been better than ever before; not at all. The fact that scoring has come so easy to the team this year puts an entirely new spin on the "which player would you choose?" game. I was at the Rockets @ Spurs game on Saturday, and I asked Andrew McNeil of 48Minutes of Hell which player from Houston's roster he'd most like to have. I found myself arguing against Scola and Martin and for Battier, using the argument that the offense has been good enough that Luis and Kevin might not make it any better, but Shane would immediately become the team's best wing defender. I can't believe that I still miss Bruce Bowen like I do.
Dave:
Coveting Battier? That does herald a change. In the old days that would have been like adding salt to McDonald's french fries. San Antonio's offense must really be crankin' if he's your new dream date.
But see, that's just the issue for Portland. Pwnage or not, Aldridge in nerd glasses or a cape, it doesn't matter. The Blazers score like a blogger at cheerleading camp...which is to say not much. Sure LaMarcus might paste 30 on you, but the rest of the guys are just random, especially from three-point range. You heard of Rudy Fernandez, the guy who shot .425 from distance his rookie year? He's shooting .333 this season. Nicolas Batum shot .409 from the arc just last season. He's at .330. Nobody can take their man off the dribble and Aldridge doesn't have mad ref respect, so the Blazers aren't drawing foul shots either. No threes and no charity tosses equals no extra points for Portland. They only get what they can manufacture. And when it comes to manufacturing points they're more summer camp macaroni art than high-tech assembly line.
So here's the story: Blazers look good coming out of the gate because, you know, it's San Antonio. Against wiener-dog teams Portland comes out slow, but they always get up for name-level opponents. Portland hangs with S.A. during the first. But the bench comes in and does the Keystone Cops routine, leaving the starters to save their bacon in the last minutes of the second period. San Antonio probably goes into the locker room with a small lead. Portland comes out fired up in the third, takes the lead, then loses it back again with the reserves. It's neck and neck into the fourth. Then San Antonio gets the fiendish plan to, you know, score points. "DRAT!" say the Blazers, "That's the one thing we're not good at!" Portland runs its offense and gets 22-25 points. The Spurs hammer out 30. Ballgame.
The only thing that disrupts this drama is if somehow a bench guy like Patty Mills gets hot. (Non-WAC or Australian fans are saying, "Who?!?" That's exactly the point.) Or maybe Rudy Fernandez forces 6 steals. Or maybe Nicolas Batum has his once-every-six-games superstar night. Then Portland can hang close. But those things usually happen against bad teams. Unless the Spurs want to be a bad team, Portland will have real trouble with them.
jollyrogerwilco:
Sounds like Portland's outside shooters are having the same off-year, that we saw in San Antonio last season. But those season stats don't mean anything when looking at a single game, which is why I'm not falling for your overly-pessimistic view of what's going to happen Tuesday evening. That, and the fact that the Spurs just played that exact game against Houston. You didn't watch that game and use the pattern to try to lull me to sleep did you? Well it's not going to work.
Mostly because I can point to no real reason why the Spurs are so much better than last year, so every once in a while I still get that it's-too-good-to-be-true feeling. Good health plays a part, but they've had healthy seasons before. Much has been made about the "different style" they're playing this year, but while there ARE differences to be sure, it's still the same team and the eyeball test confirms that. They are fast breaking more often than in years past, but the numbers don't show anything dramatic on that point. It's more like a dozen little things that have all improved -- just not a lot, so that there's something to point to -- which makes it difficult to avoid wondering if it can all go away just as fast. Especially since the one thing that's the easiest to point to is Duncan's lower numbers. Now, they're obviously down because usage and not because of slippage, but still ...
I don't want to give you the feeling that I'm constantly expecting the wheels to fall off. That's not it at all. It's just that diagnosing this season hasn't been the simplest thing to do, and you never know when Patty Mills is going to go off.
Dave:
We are mirror images. I keep getting that "It's too bad to be true" feeling. But seriously, I don't want to give the image that I'm terribly pessimistic about the Blazers' chances either. For one game anything can happen. Portland does play inspired games sometimes and when they do, team basketball shines oh so prettily. But we're talking before-the-fact analysis here and there's pretty much zero reason to predict the Blazers will beat any really good team at this point. I used to love playing good teams. They were measuring sticks. Now it's like getting thwacked with a yardstick by an angry parochial school nun. In fact that's exactly how I envision Tim Duncan, habit and all. Portland didn't do its homework. No excuses! Thwack! Thwack! Thwack!
But I have to get out of this mode because it's too depressing. Mantra time. "The Blazers are over .500. Ohhhhhmmmm. The Blazers are doing well considering all their injuries. Ohhhhmmmm. The Blazers are still in the playoff hunt. Ohhhhmmmm. The Blazers are showing grit and playing hard and giving everything they can. Ohhhhhmmmm. LaMarcus Aldridge possibly being an All-Star really is enough to hang a whole season of enjoyment on because All-Star berths are an amazingly important goal. Ohh...*cough, cough* An amazingly important goal. Ohhhhmmmygodshootmenow. An AMAZINGLY...IMPORTANT...GOAL. Ohhhhmmmm."
There. That's better! Go Blazers!!!!
jollyrogerwilco:
Dave, I ask out of concern: what kind of terrifying childhood did you have? From your references to older bigger brothers pummeling you, to your remarks about livid educators doling out punishment with measuring devices, to your description of Tim Duncan dressed as a female ascetic - I was starting to feel just a bit like I was sitting in on a therapy session until you started your meditating.
Speaking of which, you might want to reconsider the wording of that last part. While there are many things to be said about being named as a reserve in the ... you know what, never mind. I think you're on the right track after all. In fact, I'm sure of it. Now, your mantra is not quite the same as the song we're singing in anticipation of the RRT (when the Spurs go on the road for 9 games in 17 days) but it should do.
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Another strong entry in what’s becoming my favorite series on this site. My heart broke (hilariously?) at the “man with no feet” comment—it is, indeed, almost too wretched to be true.
I admit I have no idea what to expect from this first game… with their lineup changing almost daily, I’m glad I’m not the one who has to prepare. But the Blazers always have great fans!
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jan 31, 2011 10:14 PM CST reply actions
Thanks a ton for the compliment, Drums. I can’t tell you how often I’ve almost decided to stop doing them. It helps to know they’re being appreciated like that.
Also, I reacted to the “man with no feet” comment in almost the exact same way. It’s just unreal how unfortunate they’ve been.
Pop does NOT have special bonding exercises for the team on the Rodeo Road Trip.
Blazer fan here
and I second that notion, this is really nice series. It was really great to get a read from another teams perspective (and that your an Aldridge fan)
I’m glad the Spurs are playing well this year and hope make a run in the playoffs this year, I can’t think of another team (that has a chance) that I would route for more
I’ll be impressed if we hold Patty Mills to 30.
It's in the dictionary under D-E-F-E-N-S-E...I may be wrong, I may be wrong, I may be wrong, I may be may be may be wrong, but I doubt it.
Also, Dave’s analogies are hilarious.
It's in the dictionary under D-E-F-E-N-S-E...I may be wrong, I may be wrong, I may be wrong, I may be may be may be wrong, but I doubt it.
They really are! Mrs. JRW and I had a nice time laughing at them this evening. I think the one about manufacturing points was my favorite, with the measuring-stick-yardstick-Duncan-in-a-habit one running a close second.
Pop does NOT have special bonding exercises for the team on the Rodeo Road Trip.
Metaphor Ranking Revision
I KNEW I’d missed one. My real order is:
1. Battier as more salt on McDonald’s french fries
2. Manufacturing points
3. Measuring/yard stick
Pop does NOT have special bonding exercises for the team on the Rodeo Road Trip.
I loved
the same way a fourteen-year-old guy deals with unhooking his first bra strap, looking awkward and basically cluelessIt reminded me of my own experience, as awkward as they come. I even tried to reproduce the experience after reading this. But I guess the awkwardness is long gone.
"Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure."
The Battier one was definitely my favorite too.
It's in the dictionary under D-E-F-E-N-S-E...I may be wrong, I may be wrong, I may be wrong, I may be may be may be wrong, but I doubt it.
by SpursfanSteve on Feb 1, 2011 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
That was great. Dave’s similies—too numerous to quote—made me gol a number of times. Dave, come join us in the game threads or elsewhere, your humor fits right in.
Guess we’ll have to definitely do this again for the next Portland game. Too bad it’s nearly two months away.
On the bright side, that’s more than enough time for him to recharge his simile batteries, don’t you think?
Pop does NOT have special bonding exercises for the team on the Rodeo Road Trip.
the analogies are endless. gold star
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Feb 1, 2011 1:05 AM CST reply actions
In my visit to enemy territory, I came across this post that, while an interesting enough read, has just 14 comments, but virtually every one of them is comedy gold.
Seriously, £ers, not only is it worth checking out, but I’m actually considering making it the first fanshot, to have it’s own fanshot!
Pop does NOT have special bonding exercises for the team on the Rodeo Road Trip.
So a Billionair, a no. 1 pick & ET walk into a bar…
GOL! I think I broke something.
"Entropy isn't what it used to be."
by oldtimeyspurfan on Feb 1, 2011 2:13 AM CST up reply actions
I don’t remember the middle of that joke, but I’m sure the punch line has something to do with knees.
Pop does NOT have special bonding exercises for the team on the Rodeo Road Trip.
I hope the Spurs don’t feel TOO sorry for them on Tuesday. Get well Blazers!, But GO SPURS GO!
"Entropy isn't what it used to be."
by oldtimeyspurfan on Feb 1, 2011 3:10 AM CST up reply actions
The punch line will have something to do with Greg's statement that he has "grown a lot" since sending his nude phone pictures
audreypots is a joke
Pop does NOT have special bonding exercises for the team on the Rodeo Road Trip.
A joke with a lot more misleading of a name than yours…
by In the 666 on Feb 1, 2011 6:58 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
these jokes are funnier than anything that you and I put together …
"We just keep putting wins in the bag, kind of like picking strawberries." - RJ 2.0
A Kondor, an old spurs fan, and three sixes walk into a bar…
Pop does NOT have special bonding exercises for the team on the Rodeo Road Trip.
what’s the punchline?
"We just keep putting wins in the bag, kind of like picking strawberries." - RJ 2.0
A kitty, naturally.
It's in the dictionary under D-E-F-E-N-S-E...I may be wrong, I may be wrong, I may be wrong, I may be may be may be wrong, but I doubt it.
by SpursfanSteve on Feb 2, 2011 1:12 AM CST up reply actions
… singing, “You make me feel like a natural … kitty.”
Pop does NOT have special bonding exercises for the team on the Rodeo Road Trip.
Ha!!!
I missed this earlier…
Urethra!
by In the 666 on Feb 2, 2011 2:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I just wandered over to BlazersEdge. Did not read anything as am so behind on PtR there is no point in picking up another blog, but found it interesting that they already have a post discussing the 2011 draft!
Damn, I feel for them. It is barely past midseason and they are looking forward to the draft :-(.
Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.
Another great discussion, I enjoyed reading the analogies. I also feel for the Blazers, the injury epidemic in that city is a very difficult thing to overcome. It’s good that they’re hanging on tough despite the injuries of their key players. But they should start piling up some more wins. Memphis is starting to close the gap for the no. 8 spot in the WC.
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I love the blazers mainly because they are not the flashy kind of team. Roy is like Duncan, talented but not flashy, arrogant and egotistical. When Oden entered in the team years ago, my hopes were high for this team. Apparently, they havent played together that much. I expect a VERY talented team when i see a HEALTHY roy, oden and LA.. I hope blazers will eventually have their year! :)
First of all…Dave is a great writer with each and every line. Once again an entertaining read. Thanks to you both.
Unfortunately I couldn’t match him and had to fall back to my usual every-other-line, and my fallback every-third-line.
=]
Pop does NOT have special bonding exercises for the team on the Rodeo Road Trip.
Ha…Bet he can’t carry a tune, change a diaper and keep everybody else happy all at the same time.
by indiancharlie on Feb 1, 2011 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
as a blazer fan
I think I am typical of most blazer fans in that San Antonio is one of the few teams in the NBA that I think very highly of. That will make tonight’s blowout a little less painful.
Anything we can do to mitigate your pain…
Pop does NOT have special bonding exercises for the team on the Rodeo Road Trip.
“but found it interesting that they already have a post discussing the 2011 draft!
Damn, I feel for them. It is barely past midseason and they are looking forward to the draft”
I think some blazer fans are looking a lot further than that. Not sure the blazers can do much until Brandon Roy’s contract is over 4-5 years from now. (unless the new CBA has an amnesty clause and the blazers have the guts to say goodbye to the “face of the franchise”.) So long as that contract on the books it puts the team in a straitjacket; I think realistically the team can’t aspire to be a serious championship contender until the 2016-2018 timeframe.
JRW,
Thanks to you and Dave for this post. I have to agree, it is easy to pull for the Blazers. I too, see them as an ‘up and comer’ in the West. This year’s injuries are unbelievable, like something of biblical proportions.
Keep up the good work, JRW.
Get healthy Blazers
Some folks here talk of "The Curse of Tonya Harding"
I don’t believe in that ….these chicken entrails are just my dinner
Harry Bosch: "Everybody counts....or nobody counts."
by 92wastheyear on Feb 1, 2011 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
I like think that last year's injuries were of biblical proportions compared to this year...
I remember last year the Blazers went into LA to play the Clippers and we were already without Greg (center), Joel (back-up center), Jeff Pendergraph (back-up to the back-up center), Nic, Rudy, and Lamarcus (who had just sprained his ankle in the previous game and was playing center at that time)…we were calling up D league people, signing guys to 10-day contracts…and then I heard that Steve Blake had pneumonia and would miss a couple of games…. I just laughed and laughed because I thought “He probably was going to play center, so of course!!” I can’t know who played center for the Blazers in that game… I’m pretty sure it was a stick of gum. I can’t believe that they lost that game….
Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.
I apologize for bringing it up my Spurs friends
Harry Bosch: "Everybody counts....or nobody counts."
That’s about how that season went for us. We couldn’t beat a team if it’s stars or best players were hurt. I think some teams just took their best guy out when they saw us coming.
That was good win. I enjoyed it. :-)
oh I remember who played center now…. 86 year old Juwan Howard. I miss Juwan. :-( He had a monster dunk on Chris Kaman in that Clippers game. It was nice!
Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.
That didn’t stop the box score from listing him as a PF.
Pop does NOT have special bonding exercises for the team on the Rodeo Road Trip.
Here’s another fun BE link for you guys to enjoy.
Check out this guy’s profile. His quotes are awesome. (Be sure to read through all of them. It’s worth it.)
Pop does NOT have special bonding exercises for the team on the Rodeo Road Trip.
Har. And such a perfect description of Timbo. A gold star for that guy!
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Feb 1, 2011 6:35 PM CST up reply actions
Rodeo road trip time, it is!!

Bored today on Dagobah, I was. :)
No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try.
That’s some great stuff, Dave. I laughed aloud at the bra unhooking metaphor. As far as the little brother growing up to beat big brother, I can remember a time when that particular comparison would have fit the Spurs next to the Blazers. It only takes a change or two to turn a good team into a great one, and I hope the Blazers have some better fortune up ahead.
All these GIFs are breaking my browser.

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