Shooting? I Got Your Shooting Right Here
Much has been made this offseason about the failure of the Spurs' shooting during the painful series sweep by Phoenix last May. While I still believe more blame for that loss lay with the team's lackluster defensive performance, it's definitely true that the Spurs have traditionally had great shooters to help the offense run much more smoothly. There's a long list of guys that have filled that role for the Spurs over the years, but it would suffice to say that the front office is very well aware of the importance of good outside shooting from his team.
With the team getting a much needed frontcourt upgrade in the form of Tiago Splitter, adding some good shooters could make this year's team incredibly efficient on the offensive end of the floor. We've talked a lot about Tiago already, but I'll add that one of the strengths of his Caja Laboral team that won the ACB title last year was - you guessed it - shooting. So what kind of help will he and the Spurs' other big men find on the perimeter this season? Let's talk about it.
Spacing the Floor
For a team that featured the big 3, plus Richard Jefferson and DeJuan Blair, the Spurs underwhelmed on the offensive end of the floor last season. The lack of a consistent three-point threat led some opponents to pack the interior, which caused the team's trademark slow-it-down offense to stagnate while waiting for holes in the defense that simply did not appear. Good shooting can fix that. If your defense can't sag off of, say, Keith Bogans, since there's a greater threat on the perimeter now, that opens up more room on the interior. We've heard Pop, broadcasters, and quite a few of our own members comment endlessly on the importance of spacing the floor. And it's not just empty talk in an effort to justify the presence of a certain red-headed power forward in the Spurs rotation. Speaking of whom...
The deadly half-dozen
The Red Rocket is a controversial figure on this team. For at least two years he's been maligned for getting "too many" minutes. Though he hasn't fared as well in the playoffs as any of us probably hoped, he's still been an important part of how the team won games during the regular season. In my personal opinion, folks looking for him to be played sparingly this year are going to be disappointed, because the Spurs' braintrust obviously thinks he is an important part of what they do. If we can avoid the type of situation where he's taking over potential game-winning possessions, I think Matt's going to be just fine. Also, the Spurs really love to run their offense on the left side of the floor. Guess where Matty's at his best?
Get used to him, folks. Mudbutt isn't going anywhere.
In an interview a couple weeks ago, Pop said that George knows how to work in the corners, and he wanted to see George improve his range around the rest of the 3-point arc. As we all know, Pop's coaching staff keeps shot charts for all their players, so one could assume that Pop knew what he was talking about. But, for those who may have thought there was anything wrong with Pop's assessment, I give you George Hill's 2009-10 shot chart:
George is positively deadly from the corners, but ice cold from anywhere else beyond the arc. Lucky for us, he realized that, and took the overwhelming majority of his long-range shots last year from the corners. He's also worked on his shooting during the offseason in an effort to extend his range out to the wings and top of the arc, so we'll see soon enough whether he's been able to improve his shot from those areas.
And now we come to the last-minute addition to the training camp roster that probably should have created more buzz than it actually did. Simmons is a former NBA Most Improved Player(2004-05), and has been a deadly shooter throughout his career. Let me put it this way: if this guy has anything left in the tank, he will make the team. How good a shooter is he? Let's take a look at his last healthy season in New Jersey:
That's right, he shot over 35% from every single area beyond the arc, and over 40% from everywhere except the right wing(insert political joke here). Simmons is (historically, anyway) a sniper of the highest order, and with a 40% career average from beyond the arc, he should command the respect of opposing defenses. He'll make a great addition to the offense if he can still do what he used to before his injury issues.
For the Spurs' latest draft night find, I would normally defer to the expert on all matters Anderson - CapHill. While Cap raves about his overall scoring ability(which is top-flight, I've been assured), for the purposes of this post, we need to find out more about his long-range shooting. So, in this case, I'm going to quote Jonathan Givony of DraftExpress:
Anderson is clearly the centerpiece of the Cowboys’ offense, as they run him off a huge number of screens on virtually every possession in an attempt to get him open looks. Staggers, flairs, curls, down-screens—any shot they can get him with his feet set is a good possession for them. Anderson’s shooting ability is simply outstanding, as he boasts excellent form, consistent mechanics, a quick release, and terrific range on his jump-shot. Despite shooting just 36% from beyond the arc this season (more an indication of the type of defenses that are thrown at him than anything), Anderson projects as a high-level NBA shooter any way you slice it when looking at the way he can put the ball in the net.
Emphasis [obviously] mine. With the kind of teammates he'll have in San Antonio, James should have enough open looks to show us a better picture of his abilities. Hopefully, he can shoot somewhere in the neighborhood of the 40.8% mark he attained during his sophomore season at Oklahoma State. The threeball is far from the only weapon in Mr. Anderson's arsenal, but it may prove to be the most effective.
By now, we're all aware of what the summer league sensation did in Vegas. He put on an incredibly efficient shooting performance, but in an incredibly small sample size. This is important, because no matter what he looked like in summer league or team practice/scrimmages, his history isn't quite as generous to him. Once again, here's DraftExpress with his stats. Neal won the Italian League scoring title last year, and he shot 36.8% from long range. Pretty good, but that statistic is his highest number since he started playing professionally, which isn't comforting, especially given the closer proximity of the arc under FIBA rules. The good news is, since he started playing in Europe in 2007, his shooting seems to have improved every season. Also working in his favor is the fact that as the leading scorer in the Italian League, those numbers may have been decreased due to opposing defenses concentrating on him, much like it was for Anderson at OSU last year. Hopefully, his upward statistical trend continues, but I'm a bit worried about his ability to make the right decisions if he isn't wide open. Neal reminds me too much of Roger Mason, and that spooks me a bit.
This man is probably the purest shooter on the team, but has a couple of things working against him. He's 30 years old, and he can't really do much of anything besides shoot. But boy, can he ever shoot. On three-pointers: 41% for his NBL(Australia/NZ league) club last year, 57%(!) in the D-League, and 37% for the New Zealand national team in the World Championship this past summer. The very definition of "gunner", he was the 2009 NBL MVP, and finished second only to Scola in scoring at the Worlds this summer.
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Granted, those last two guys may not even be on the Spurs active roster on opening night, but at this point, they both have a chance to prove themselves worthy. Still, these are the guys that we can reasonably expect to be designated shooters when they step onto the floor for the Spurs.
The Tiny-eared Elephant in the Room
One thing this post does not address is the likelihood of Richard Jefferson's 3-point percentage regressing to the mean. Even though he only clocked in at 31.8% last year, RJ shot 36% or better in each of his previous 3 seasons, and shoots 3's at a 35% clip for his career. Despite that, I am hesitant to believe that RJ will rediscover his stroke, mainly because his shot looks so awkward. If he returns to his previous form, the Spurs will be a brutally efficient offensive machine, because teams will have to play him closer, enabling him to get a step on his defender more often on cuts to the basket. Basically, if RJ gets his shot back, he will be an absolute nightmare to defend against. Even if he doesn't return to old form, though, this team seems to have enough shooting to make up for it.
There's also the distinct possibility that Garrett Temple or even Tony Parker could have a breakout season from beyond the arc, but that's probably a bit overly optimistic.
So, there you have it. The Spurs addressed their need for better shooting this offseason, and did so in a big way. Now, about that defense...
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Well I picked Simmons since he can flat out shoot the three,career for threes is 40%,I think that was one attribute people in PtR(I think someone said/siggest that we should pick or sign a guy with a career of 39-40+ shooting in threes)and it’s simmons,I think he might have a roster spot(I’m afraid for curtis now,I would also love to have Kirk but I think it’s gist,penney and curtis who are endangered of being cut)
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Kirk? As in Captain Kirk? I heard that he was washed up, making commercials now…
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by freshtunarightofftheboat on Sep 30, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I voted for Neal, but then “best” could be defined various ways. Neal might make the most (assuming he gets sufficient playing time), Bonner could be the best percentage-wise, but likely the best at hitting one when you need one will be Manu.
by Alamo on Sep 30, 2010 8:51 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
+20… and rec’d. I was thinking Manu too….
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by freshtunarightofftheboat on Sep 30, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
And to emphasize the “Where’s Manu?” point, here’s his 2009-10 hotspot graphic:

It’s interesting how much better his wing threes were than his corner threes last year (which is why Hill got to occupy Bruce’s corner office). It’s even more interesting how much better he was in the 2006-07 and 07-08 campaigns (here, I’m too busy right now to capture and post more of them).
Even so, I think Manu deserves a spot on the sharpshooting team. Especially when you consider that he’s clutch… the charts aren’t designed to show that, unfortunately.
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by freshtunarightofftheboat on Sep 30, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
We all know that Manu is at his (3 pt. shooting) best when there’s a defender’s hand 2 inches from his face as he’s shooting a fade away (usually 24"+ behind this so-called 3 point line). Those types of plays happen more often on the wing, which is appreciated by the above hot-spot chart.
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wait, what? bobby simmons is in training camp? i need to start paying more attention round here…
free malik hairston!
perth wildcats - 2009/2010 nbl champions baby!
by sleep research facility on Sep 30, 2010 9:01 AM CDT reply actions
Is Fab still an FA?So where not getting him?I guess so,since I can’t even choose if you let me who to have,can we have 20 guys? :)
Champion of Me. All about ‘Bron and all about nothing.
Spurs should sign him as a coach for Splitter, at least. Oh, and can we get Bruce back as a coach? With JV already on the staff, would that be too many? :)
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by freshtunarightofftheboat on Sep 30, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
i think that bridge was burned – i doubt Bruce would come back although it would be great to have him as a defensive coach
"The A-Train deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"
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by Joe deLarios on Sep 30, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Burned, because the team shipped him off to the Bucks instead of letting him retire gracefully?
I didn’t get the feeling that Bruce took it personally… he understood that it was a business decision.
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by freshtunarightofftheboat on Sep 30, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah exactly – personally think he deserves to have his number retired
and believe that he was not happy about being traded – maybe he should of retired first, idk but I felt that was cold by Pop. One of the few criticisms I have about Pop.
"The A-Train deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"
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by Joe deLarios on Sep 30, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Loved the this exchange right after the trade
Reports: Bruce do you feel this trade makes the Spurs better
Bruce: NOO!
Although i dont think he was really happy about it he kept his sesne of humor and defiently didnt seem to go out on too bad a note all things considered.
agree we should retire his #
+12 for retiring #12’s number.
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by freshtunarightofftheboat on Oct 1, 2010 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the bridge was burned when Pop tried to force him out of the rotation in 2008-09. If we had been healthy, Pop probably would have done it more successfully.
I think you’re underselling Temple.
I voted Hill. MIP runner up keeps showing his work ethic. He can’t be stopped. I think James Anderson will struggle from the NBA 3 point line some but find ways to score in limited minutes.
Gary Neal is just entering his prime years so it would make sense for him to still be improving.
Bonner’s salary and new contract agree with your assessment of his minutes this season.
I put down Bonner and the reason is exactly what you and the thread starter both pointed out. Bonner is going to get his minutes and you can tell because of the contract he was awarded. I couldn’t believe the team resigned him for so long and the price. I hope his shooting stays consistent because that is the only thing he provides
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by gunnin' gervin on Sep 30, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Great post, Tim. We definitely have more options beyond the arc than last year. I’m impressed by Simmons Hot Spots chart. He’s even got a midrange game, another aspect the Spurs were desperately lacking last year. I’d rather RJ really improve that aspect of his game than the 3-ball.
I voted for Anderson, because of course I’m going to. I know his % don’t look great from his junior year, but like you, I’m expecting his percentages to more mimic his sophomore year. The Spurs definitely have more shooters this year, at least who should be hot on any given night, thereby opening up the floor for everyone else. I’m excited.
With all due respect, gentlemen, we're not as crazy as she is.
I think the thing about Anderson that I like the most is his ability to shoot well coming off screens from both mid and long range. This, I think, makes it easier to get set up plays for him or they have that option if the original play gets broken. (instead of calling iso like most teams do)
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Yeah, he does that sweet curl off a screen and releases quickly too. Two points!
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by freshtunarightofftheboat on Sep 30, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Bonner had 71!!! shots in the paint? This is madness!!!
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Madness…?
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"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Sep 30, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
damnt… I need to learn to preview
supposed to read <.chestkick> bj1der <./chestkick>
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Sep 30, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Still stupid.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Sep 30, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Frak off.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Sep 30, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions

"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Sep 30, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Manu is too distracted try to find where he is going to flop, where as Bonner throws a hoggie at the other teams big to distract them (they are big boys down there, so you know they are hungry)
no such thing as TOO much
"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."
I’d flop, too, if my team mate was throwing hoggies. While it may sound absurd, it brings truth to “… when pigs fly.”
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Maybe Manu draws more attention around the rim than Matt? :)
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by freshtunarightofftheboat on Sep 30, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions

You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Oct 1, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
rec’d
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Oct 2, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
First, there was that ‘matador’ defense on Matt as he drove past his man.
Second, the defensive help came waaaaay too late, and both went for the block with their hands instead of with their bodies.
Bonner better had made that shot at the rim!
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by freshtunarightofftheboat on Oct 4, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Say what you want, fresh, but you can’t take that dunk away from the Red Rocket.
No one can!
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by J.R. Wilco on Oct 5, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
:)
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by freshtunarightofftheboat on Oct 5, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
At least give him credit for the taunting that he does after the dunk by smacking the ball out of Calderon’s hands. He’s never been the same way since.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
Was that really Bonner taunting? He wasn’t looking at Calderon at the time, so it looked more to me that his arm came down after the dunk and accidently knocked the ball loose. If that’s a Bonner taunt, that’s pretty weak sauce, lol. j/k
Calderon wasn’t really even in the play, though he probably should have left his man and fouled Matt, if he could have prevented the basket.
Your video kinda supports my statement… if Manu was driving to the basket with the ball, he’d have attracted an even bigger crowd at the rim. :)
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by freshtunarightofftheboat on Oct 7, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
I will give Matt props because that was a nice play but Toronto since being in the league has never been a defensive team.
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by gunnin' gervin on Oct 7, 2010 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions
It’s interesting that Matt attempted more triples from the right side of the floor than the left, even though he was clearly better from the left side. And if the Spurs love to run their offense on the left side, why doesn’t Bonner have more shots from that side?
Spacing. Someone else – presumably someone I want taking shots from that side – is already behind the arc on the left side, and moving Bonner over there too would screw up the spacing. Or the ball-handler (and maybe Timmy) are operating on the left, and playing Bonner over there just invites his defender to sag off and/or double-team, again screwed up spacing.
If the former is the case, then Bonner might be able to swap spots with whoever is on the left wing. But if the latter is the situation (likely), then Matt is simply going to have to start making more of his shots from the right side. RJ also had a problem last year shooting from the wing areas behind the arc (though his right corner 3 pt. FG% wasn’t bad, nearly 40% using Wayne Vore’s graphic):

But, as I’ve said before, even if RJ doesn’t shoot like this again this year (your graphic, btw):

I’d be thrilled if he shot 40% from both corners and attempted more corner shots than wing ones.
I’m hopeful that Hill’s work over the summer will make him as effective from the wings as he was from the corners, or that one of the new ‘kids’ (Anderson, Neal, Penney, Simmons, etc.) will step up and claim that “spot,” since someone needs to be able to shoot well from there when the Spurs spread the floor. And though it’s ‘optimistic’ to hope that Parker will show off a new 3 pt. shot this year, I remain, well… optimistic. :)
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by freshtunarightofftheboat on Sep 30, 2010 12:31 PM CDT reply actions
This is one of the closest poll results I’ve seen at PtR. Seems like a good starting point for discussion.
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Manu takes his shots where he makes his shots. We want more Manu’s.
by indiancharlie on Sep 30, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
As Pop said, “There’s only one of those.”
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by freshtunarightofftheboat on Sep 30, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Just admit that you hate Fred.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Oct 1, 2010 6:55 AM CDT up reply actions
G-Neal all the way, baby.
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by silverandblack_davis on Sep 30, 2010 11:10 PM CDT reply actions
I voted for George Hill since he already has the corner 3 down and was told by Pop to work on the other areas during the summer. But I was very attempted to choose James Anderson as well.
Go on, vote for somebody else. Your doubt is high-octane fuel for the Red Rocket.
by greyberger on Oct 1, 2010 8:02 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
just can’t wait for liftoff :)
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by SpursfanSteve on Oct 2, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
manu is probably gonna have the best 3pt percentage
but out the list i think it would be anderson. he’ll probably get the most time with the guys that would draw attention away from him during games
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It’s all part of CapHill’s plan, I tell ya.
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by silverandblack_davis on Oct 5, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe I'm being premature or maybe I'm setting my bar too low...
But would it be that far off to say that James Anderson will at least become a Michael Finley upgrade?
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