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I start work again tomorrow. I’m looking forward to seeing my students but not being back on a schedule. At least I won’t be checking PTR every few hours to see if anything new has happened. ;-)

by Spurlady on Aug 29, 2010 3:02 PM CDT reply actions  

That’s an outright lie. You’ll be refreshing the main page in between class periods, and you know it!

Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™

by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Aug 29, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

“So who wants to learn about abbreviations, hmm?”

"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich

by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Aug 30, 2010 6:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

What do you teach, Spurlady?

"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair

by Manu ex Machina on Aug 29, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I teach English as a Second Language to adults(mostly moms with students) in a family literacy program offered by our school district. Tomorrow we are testing students to place them in classes—beginner, intermediate or advanced. I teach the beginners and the advanced on different days. It’s a great program—we have a waiting list of about 40 names. We offer GED classes also.

by Spurlady on Aug 29, 2010 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

ESL classes – fun

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Aug 31, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

ESL

Thanks for all that you do!!

Go Spurs Go!!

by COrozco21 on Aug 30, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’ve tried getting hired at quite a few places as a teacher. No bites. So, I’m having a philosophical shift at my current job. It’s suddenly not so expendable. I’m showing up early, making coffee for everyone, cleaning the toilets.

A job is a job these days.

by Cedarpark on Aug 29, 2010 3:59 PM CDT reply actions  

a job is a job

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Aug 31, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Argentina keeps winning in take-years-off-my-lifetime fashion. In the meantime, my one-week vacation with starts tomorrow. And I have a feeling Tim will like this.

I smell death... everywhere.

by LatinD on Aug 29, 2010 4:27 PM CDT reply actions  

That was pretty sweet!

by xman130 on Aug 31, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tony apologist since 2010.

by Tim C. on Aug 29, 2010 5:32 PM CDT reply actions  

And here I’ve been drawing the circles as the second step all my life. O_O

"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair

by Manu ex Machina on Aug 29, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wazap

"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't"

by ddog28 on Aug 29, 2010 5:51 PM CDT reply actions  

bs

"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't"

by ddog28 on Aug 31, 2010 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

ESPN will be showing the US-Brazil game like at 1:30pm Spurs time on Monday, if anyone plans to watch. Replay at 10pm on ESPN2.

Tony apologist since 2010.

by Tim C. on Aug 29, 2010 10:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I think I’ve heard of a guy on the Brazilian team

Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™

by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Aug 29, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

For my pilot/aviation nerds out there:

Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™

by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Aug 29, 2010 11:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Runners: Avoid the Adidas Kanadia Trail Running shoes. The bottom of one of my shoes ripped off during a downhill run and I damn near broke my ankle. Shoes only lasted one month.

"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich

by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Aug 30, 2010 9:12 AM CDT reply actions  

I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.

by Lauri on Aug 30, 2010 9:21 AM CDT reply actions  

bawwwwww

Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™

by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Aug 30, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

that’s kind of creepy

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Aug 31, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich

by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Sep 1, 2010 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I said, “Stay off the tile!”

I’m trying to rediscover verbosity. - LatinD

by J.R. Wilco on Sep 1, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow, that is awesomE

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Sep 2, 2010 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

George_Hill3 Semi trucks should have their own lane cause they mess the traffic all up.. Getting whip flash wit all this stop n go lol

i nominate whip flash for defining and addition to the lexicon….

by BlaseE on Aug 30, 2010 9:33 AM CDT reply actions  

I could write a treatise on George’s comment, but I’ll refrain and just ditto Blase’s suggestion about whip flash .

by CapHill on Aug 30, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is a DTour post so you shouldn’t have to refrain.

by BlaseE on Aug 30, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

It’s not the subject; it would be the length of my reply about how the US could both decrease congestion and increase the life cycle of our roadways if we returned to using rail instead of trucks for shipping (although the preceding would not always be applicable in cities).

by CapHill on Aug 30, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

what have i done

Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™

by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Aug 30, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

a picture makes it permanent

by BlaseE on Aug 30, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn’t this one of the first rules of the Lexicon? If someone calls you out with a photo, that makes it permanent.

Tony apologist since 2010.

by Tim C. on Aug 30, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

CD could tell us if it is in the lexicon but I know we have discussed this photo permanence before

by BlaseE on Aug 30, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but I’m not sure the same rules apply to Spurs players who aren’t members here. I think we need a ruling from The Lexicon Committee.

Tony apologist since 2010.

by Tim C. on Aug 30, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

honorary members?

by BlaseE on Aug 30, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Photo permanence (as Blase called it) isn’t a hard and fast rule. It’s more like an indicator for inclusion, nothing more..

As to whether tweets from players are viable Lexicon fodder, the precedent has already been set with oppenents. But everyone was so ready to mock Artest, that I’m not sure the success of that typo is a good example.

Blase is correct about the previous discussion of how images can solidify a term’s Lexicon potential. We discussed it, starting here. And since it’s so pertinent to this discussion, I’ll quote the most relevant passage for those who don’t want to follow the link and see the entire exchange:

it takes more than a couple of jumbled letters to put an entry over the top. Sometimes its the feel of the new word, other times its the look of it or how it sounds. Sometimes it’s the way the entire sentence works with the term. And then there are the times when the response is what makes the submission a shoo in, as was the case with brining it.

Lauri’s reply was so understated (just the quote of Cap’s gaff) and the image so clever, that there was immediately a ton of momentum behind that typo. And once everybody thought it was funny, they started using it.

So, I think I’m going to take a wait and see stance with whip flash, and see what kind of usage it gets.

I’m trying to rediscover verbosity. - LatinD

by J.R. Wilco on Sep 2, 2010 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

in that case….

I expected you to to be on the bandwagon but your response gave me whip flash.

by BlaseE on Sep 2, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I love the picture, but I still need some clarification of whip flash. Is it just a typo or are we giving it an actual definition?

by CapHill on Aug 30, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sudden deceleration that causes a wardrobe malfunction revealing one’s nipples in the most violent of ways.

I did a lot of soul searching. I didn't find anything.

by Hipuks on Aug 30, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like when JT whip flashed Janet?

"We choose to go to the moon... and do the other things, not only because they are easy, but because they are hard." - JFK

by silverandblack_davis on Aug 30, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

ESL

Thanks for all that you do!!

Go Spurs Go!!

Go Spurs Go!!

by COrozco21 on Aug 30, 2010 10:03 AM CDT reply actions  

JMcDonald_SAEN: Jawad Williams is in town now. Might be working out as we tweet. Will be hard for #spurs to make offer Cavs won’t match, however.

"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich

by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Aug 30, 2010 11:20 AM CDT reply actions  

Wasn’t Williams one of the “random guys who killed the Spurs” this year?

by CapHill on Aug 30, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Let’s hope he doesn’t turn into Jawad-of-crap

Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™

by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Aug 30, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

just looked at his game log, he seems raw and inconsistent but he has a few standout games which means he might have a good ceiling…he only made 700k last year too so im not sure cleveland would want to match anything we offer

by BlaseE on Aug 30, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

is this the “game thread” for the brazil/US game? I’ll be watching the play by play here at work…..

by BlaseE on Aug 30, 2010 1:08 PM CDT reply actions  

If it gets too busy, we can always make a separate thread. But, idk how many folks are going to be able to watch. I’m at work, myself. :(

Tony apologist since 2010.

by Tim C. on Aug 30, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

ESPN just mentioned weneedtiago.com . WIN.

by joe20 on Aug 30, 2010 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

OMFG. Seriously????

Tony apologist since 2010.

by Tim C. on Aug 30, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

something along the lines of “Websites were made to get him to come”

by joe20 on Aug 30, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

noicee. The Legend Lives On

Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™

by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Aug 30, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

8:07 Tiago Splitter Turnover. 4-4
8:04 4-4 Andre Iguodala Steal.
8:03 4-6 Kevin Durant made Two Point Layup. Assisted by Andre Iguodala.
8:03 Foul on Tiago Splitter 4-6
8:03 4-7 Kevin Durant made Free Throw.

by BlaseE on Aug 30, 2010 1:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow, it’s rare for him to turn it over. Wonder how that happened.

Tony apologist since 2010.

by Tim C. on Aug 30, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

he’s handling the ball a lot..

by joe20 on Aug 30, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

he just blocked durant

by BlaseE on Aug 30, 2010 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

anywhere to watch it online other than espn

by vaspursva on Aug 30, 2010 1:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Sick, another Splitter block

by joe20 on Aug 30, 2010 1:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Leandro Barbosa made Three Point Jumper. 23-22
1:11 23-22 Kevin Durant Turnover.
1:11 Leandro Barbosa Steal. 23-22
0:52 Leandro Barbosa made Three Point Jumper. 26-22
0:36 26-22 Russell Westbrook Turnover.
0:22 Tiago Splitter made Two Point Dunk Shot. Assisted by Leandro Barbosa. 28-22
0:07 28-22 Russell Westbrook missed Two Point Jumper.
0:07 Tiago Splitter Block. 28-22
0:07 Leandro Barbosa Defensive Rebound. 28-22

Splitter and Barbosa lead 8 point run to end the first.

by BlaseE on Aug 30, 2010 1:52 PM CDT reply actions  

is anyone watching the game? who is Splitter defending?

by BlaseE on Aug 30, 2010 1:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Splitter picks up another foul

by joe20 on Aug 30, 2010 1:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Tiago shoots FTs at an angle..

by joe20 on Aug 30, 2010 2:10 PM CDT reply actions  

And SC announcer congratulates Manu on his twins

by joe20 on Aug 30, 2010 2:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Just looked at the box score. Seems to be The Durantula Show.

by CapHill on Aug 30, 2010 2:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Splitter to the bench with 4 fouls, but he’s been pretty damn good. This is the USA’s chance to pull away.

Tony apologist since 2010.

by Tim C. on Aug 30, 2010 2:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Barbosa’s offense might help Brazil keep up

by joe20 on Aug 30, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Barbosa ALMOST with the game tying circus shot. But US pulls out the win.

by joe20 on Aug 30, 2010 3:21 PM CDT reply actions  

huertas just missed two free throws to tie the game with 5 seconds left…..

by BlaseE on Aug 30, 2010 3:22 PM CDT reply actions  

and then barbosa misses a 2…..

by BlaseE on Aug 30, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

is it wrong to have been rooting for Tiago (and Brazil) more than the US?

by BlaseE on Aug 30, 2010 3:23 PM CDT reply actions  

I was doing the same. Did anyone watch the game? the box score makes me wonder if Tiago will be foul prone or if it was because he had to guard KD and not a center.

by SpurInDallas on Aug 30, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Love, Chandler, and Odom finished with 11 points on 12 shots and no FTA’s, 1 AST, 0 BLK’s, 4 PF’s and 12 rebounds. Most of that is Odom. I can’t see minutes yet on ESPN’s box score.

Durant had 8 TO’s so maybe Splitter did good forcing him into help defense.

by BlaseE on Aug 30, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

In a way, small ball actually worked for the US today. Splitter guarding Durant was prett unfortunate for Brazil, although it sounds like he did as well as could possibly be expected.

Tony apologist since 2010.

by Tim C. on Aug 30, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, i didn’t record the game but i plan to catch a repeat

by BlaseE on Aug 30, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

While it would definitely be hard to guard KD, I think it was one of Splitter’s first fouls that he shouldn’t have given up. I don’t like his fourth call. I think overall he played well. Very athletic.

by joe20 on Aug 30, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was more impressed by his offense today than his defense. He did a really good job against Odom, got some really good looks, a few of them rattled out though. Overall, i think he’s at LEAST NBA level rotation player. I think he’s probably within range of being on the court to finish games as well. Odom was the first NBA big i’ve seen him go against, and he at least held his own, and i’d say for the most part proved to be just as good, if not better than Odom.

Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis

by SpursfanSteve on Aug 30, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I watched the game too. I loved what I saw from Tiago. Can’t wait to see him play in a Spurs uniform!
And as for his foul trouble, 2 of his fouls were from guarding Durant so I hope that’s not a huge concern while he’s playing in the NBA.

by Marky G on Aug 30, 2010 6:31 PM CDT reply actions  

From the Daily Dime chat that was going on during the game:

Be afraid, other NBA teams, be afraid.

Tony apologist since 2010.

by Tim C. on Aug 30, 2010 6:48 PM CDT reply actions  

So, Tiago should be able to step in as a solid starter? Hmm. I guess I’ll be watching the replay tonight after all.

by CapHill on Aug 30, 2010 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

What the eff, Brazil. You had it!

I liked Tiago a lot.

I smell death... everywhere.

by LatinD on Aug 30, 2010 8:12 PM CDT reply actions  

He played well. He was matched up with Odom a lot. He looked overmatched at some points, but held his own other times.

He is slower than I thought he was. I guess I pictured him to be a little more fluid and athletic. My first impression of really watching him was that he is a little more mechanical and stiff. I mean, I understand he’s a 7 footer, but just thought at times he looked a little slow.

As weird as this might sound, watching him play today raised my expectations for him for this season, but also tempered them a bit too. I’m not expecting a game changer, but definitely a solid contributor and a great offseason pickup.

by GMac14 on Aug 30, 2010 8:19 PM CDT reply actions  

My impression, after seeing him in a few games, is that Tiago is quicker than the average FIBA center. He particularly seems better at moving up and down the court, most of the other 7 footers being half-court players.

by Alamo on Aug 30, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn, I was rooting for Tiago and Brazil. Oh well, nothing’s changed though… Coach K still doesn’t know how to defend the pick-and-roll.

And if Alessandra Ambrosio was rooting for my team, wow. I’d be inspired.

"We choose to go to the moon... and do the other things, not only because they are easy, but because they are hard." - JFK

by silverandblack_davis on Aug 30, 2010 8:33 PM CDT reply actions  

So does anyone have predictions for the US Open? I just watched Venus roll, and now I’m wondering if Federer will find his mojo.

by CapHill on Aug 30, 2010 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I’m rooting for Clijsters.

If you liked it, then you shoulda put a fifth ring on it.

by day_late_friend on Aug 30, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m hoping Federer, but you can never count out an injury-free Nadal.

On the women’s side, I like Sharapova or Wozniacki, but they can potentially meet in the 4th round, which is a pity.

"We choose to go to the moon... and do the other things, not only because they are easy, but because they are hard." - JFK

by silverandblack_davis on Aug 30, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’ve always been a fan of Nadal.

"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair

by Manu ex Machina on Aug 30, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Vamos Rafa!

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. ~ CMoney
I am happy. I am proud. ~ Manu Ginobili

by bellasa on Aug 30, 2010 10:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Jeez, TP. At least get your new teammate’s name right.

tp9network

tough game for the us team!!!brazil played great!! thiago splitter looks very good good news for the SPURS!!

"We choose to go to the moon... and do the other things, not only because they are easy, but because they are hard." - JFK

by silverandblack_davis on Aug 30, 2010 9:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Who else heard during the US-Brazil game that Splitter is having trouble getting a Visa? Pretty lame.

"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair

by Manu ex Machina on Aug 30, 2010 9:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow, they said that? Why on earth would the US not want to give him one?

"We choose to go to the moon... and do the other things, not only because they are easy, but because they are hard." - JFK

by silverandblack_davis on Aug 30, 2010 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Conspiracy. Obama is clearly David Stern’s puppet, and Stern wants nothing good for the Spurs! Every final must include the Lakers and either Boston or whatever team Lebroom is on.

Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis

by SpursfanSteve on Aug 30, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

They said he should be good to go by training camp though.

by joe20 on Aug 31, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Splitter is having trouble getting a Visa?

No prob, just get a Mastercard.

by doggydogworld on Aug 31, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis

by SpursfanSteve on Sep 3, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isnt Alex Garcia a former Spur? If I remember correctly he showed quite a bit of promise before he got hurt.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. ~ CMoney
I am happy. I am proud. ~ Manu Ginobili

by bellasa on Aug 30, 2010 10:57 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Eh, he played two games, and I can’t remember him. But we had Turk and Bruce back then.

Tony apologist since 2010.

by Tim C. on Aug 30, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

GTemp2 Jus woke up and had the craziest dream ever about getting shot in a convenient store.

by BlaseE on Aug 31, 2010 8:08 AM CDT reply actions  

I was impressed with Splitter

After the past 3 years of hearing about him from you guys, it was nice to see him in action. While I don’t remember him pulling any post moves with his back to the basket, he was great in the P&R on offense, and not too bad on defense, providing an effective deterrent to USA drives to the basket.

In terms of how I see him fitting in with San Antonio, I think he can play well with Duncan. First off, we have to admit that in the NBA, Splitter is a PF. He can play C at times, but you wouldn’t want him to be you’re main big man for a whole season. Luckily, Duncan has slowly become a true center merely due to age.

So I see that Splitter P&Rs with Hill/Parker/Manu will be deadly, with Duncan in the pinch post or the elbow as the 2nd option if the defense rotates correctly on the P&R.

I think San Antonio just jumped into a definate Top 3 Western Conference contender… as long as everyone else stays healthy. If RJ gets his act together… I’m somewhat nervous.

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by tandur on Aug 31, 2010 9:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Why don’t you think Splitter is a center?

by BlaseE on Aug 31, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Eh, I think the two “big” positions are pretty interchangeable at this point.

Tony apologist since 2010.

by Tim C. on Aug 31, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I mostly agree with your statement, but I was hoping Tandur would explain why Splitter can’t play center.

by BlaseE on Aug 31, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think he can compete with what most people consider a NBA center

7 foot, 250 lbs and up. I can’t see him, at this stage, being able to compete with Andrew Bynum, Dwight Howard, Shaq, Yao Ming, or Andrew Bogut for a full game or series.

And I forgot to mention that I think Tiago will show good signs this year, but will need atleast one year under his belt before San Antonio can be considered championship caliber. But the issue there becomes age health. What with Timmy, Manu, and TP be like after another 164 games plus 2011 postseason?

I think the Spurs might run into a problem down the road of too many players past their prime, and too many players not yet into their prime.

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by tandur on Aug 31, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Somewhat related to your discussion, I’ve been wondering from those who have watched him play, I understand he’s 7 ft.+ and can move well (which is great btw). Does he play above the rim much? I mean kinda like this:


(Just couldn’t resist sharing one of my favorite pics.
Makes me wish the season was here already.)

And I’m asking for real – to satisfy my curiosity.

Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.

by olf on Aug 31, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

is that before or after his 16th knee surgery?

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Aug 31, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it’s during. They probably had those micro-surgeons working on a knee fracture during the game, or did I not get that right?

"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair

by Manu ex Machina on Aug 31, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, he had been conditioning for European ball so it will be interesting to see how the Spurs condition him. The Spurs have an interesting group of bigs that I think he fits into and complements independent of whether he is playing center or PF. He could also be playing one position on offense and the other on defense.

Blair: Undersized center working towards PF skills and body
Bonner: PF/C height with SF play….
Dice: Undersized center with some PF offense
Duncan: Everything and anything
Splitter: Center height but great complementary fundamentals that really let him play with any of the other 4
RJ: Small ball 4 in hopefully very limited minutes like the last 1 to 2 of close games

All 5 returning players started games for us last year and Splitter is the no contest starter over them all. That’s huge. The main thing we were missing last season was interior height which Splitter helps with. Blair, Dice, and Duncan are a lot of muscle as Splitter gets stronger. I think our team will be able to play those players as well as any other team in the league. Bynum, Howard, Shaq, Ming, and Bogut are all good/great players that no team can slack on. The Spurs are no exception.

Last Regular Season:
Howard 82 games
Duncan 78 games
Bogut 69 games
Bynum 65 games
O’Neal 53 games
Ming 0 games

by BlaseE on Aug 31, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK. I am just wondering how much vertical leaping to expect from Mr Splitter. No big deal, I’m just curious and trying to complete a mental picture of him. Plus I’m sure I’ll see for myself soon enough.

Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.

by olf on Aug 31, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly, I don’t know. I’m excited to find that out myself.

by BlaseE on Aug 31, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

This one good enough to satisfy your curiousity?

"We choose to go to the moon... and do the other things, not only because they are easy, but because they are hard." - JFK

by silverandblack_davis on Aug 31, 2010 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

That’s a start. Thanks.

Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.

by olf on Aug 31, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

He can’t jump. Then again, neither can Duncan.

by doggydogworld on Aug 31, 2010 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, Spain is stinking up the joint.(Group D)

Pau > Marc

Tony apologist since 2010.

by Tim C. on Aug 31, 2010 3:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Here is a review of Tiago’s performance in the USA-Brazil game, from The Painted Area:

S.A. Spur Tiago Splitter had a solid showing on Monday, but like every other key player, he had issues. Tiago did finish with some dunks, scored on a few hooks and snatched rebounds out of his area, especially on offensive end. Splitter’s defense was tight as usual and showcased his lateral quickness (forced two TOs on Odom). Did a nice job contesting and was stout in screen action, including a monster block on Westbrook from a standstill. Splitter displayed his passing ability from all over, garnering 3 assists, but also made 2-3 careless passes, which helped him pile up 5 TOs.

We thought Splitter showed exactly why we think he’ll be a good fit in San Antonio: he’s a quality NBA athlete, especially in terms of lateral movement and body control, who will be able to defend effectively both in the paint and out on the floor. He’ll contribute on the boards and also in helping with the ball movement on offense, plus he’ll add some opportunity scoring. Tiago’s line on Monday was 13 pts on 6-12 FG, 10 rebs (4 off.), 3 assts., 2 stls, & 5 TOs in 30 minutes.

"We choose to go to the moon... and do the other things, not only because they are easy, but because they are hard." - JFK

by silverandblack_davis on Aug 31, 2010 8:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I kept waiting for the “but”, though it never came…

Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™

by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Aug 31, 2010 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  


I love this picture…

by BlaseE on Sep 1, 2010 8:13 AM CDT reply actions  

oh yeah, and you can see more here

by BlaseE on Sep 1, 2010 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tiago versus the Durantula:

Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™

by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Sep 1, 2010 8:42 AM CDT reply actions  

I love the logo on the side of the U.S. shorts.

"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich

by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Sep 1, 2010 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

nice one, Deck

I’m trying to rediscover verbosity. - LatinD

by J.R. Wilco on Sep 1, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

impressed by Tiago’s play

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Sep 1, 2010 12:15 PM CDT reply actions  

huge game between france and lithuania just started…both teams are 3-0 and the winner is essentially a lock for the elimination games

by BlaseE on Sep 1, 2010 1:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Brazil has tipped off and the game is live on NBA TV

here is a link to the ESPN play by play…box score is easy to get to from that link too

by BlaseE on Sep 1, 2010 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

splitter is 7 of 8 and 2 of 4 from the line early in the third….brazil getting beat though (down by 9)…and varejao is back, and coming off the bench

france is losing to lithuania, down by 17 with 7:30 to play

by BlaseE on Sep 1, 2010 2:33 PM CDT reply actions  

nando is 4 of 5 from the field, 1 of 2 from 3, with 2 rebounds, 3 steals and 2 assists

by BlaseE on Sep 1, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

the opposing center, primoz brezec (is he on Utah?), is 7 of 7 and 2 of 2 from the line

by BlaseE on Sep 1, 2010 2:50 PM CDT reply actions  

brazil down 16, end of the third….i think splitter has been sitting to play most or all of the 4th

by BlaseE on Sep 1, 2010 2:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Marcelo 3, steal, and another 3 cuts the lead to 11…..another steal by marcelo and a barbosa layup to get the lead to 9

by BlaseE on Sep 1, 2010 2:59 PM CDT reply actions  

brazil majorly battling back….nachbar and dragic appear to be making mistakes

by BlaseE on Sep 1, 2010 3:03 PM CDT reply actions  

13 point run by brazil still going just had a 3 pointer by marcelo assisted by tiago to force a slovenia timeout….4 point game

by BlaseE on Sep 1, 2010 3:04 PM CDT reply actions  

brazil with 3 offensive rebounds with splitter getting the last and finally making it…2 point game

by BlaseE on Sep 1, 2010 3:06 PM CDT reply actions  

slovenia just made a three after an over 5 minute drought

by BlaseE on Sep 1, 2010 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

splitter leads all scorers with 18…still down 5 on a full timeout with under 4 to play

by BlaseE on Sep 1, 2010 3:08 PM CDT reply actions  

lakovic with back to back 3’s to make it an 8 point game again….

by BlaseE on Sep 1, 2010 3:11 PM CDT reply actions  

smart foul by nachbar, brazil should lose by 3

by BlaseE on Sep 1, 2010 3:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Tiago shot 3/8 from the line. Now that’s a true Spur.

"We choose to go to the moon... and do the other things, not only because they are easy, but because they are hard." - JFK

by silverandblack_davis on Sep 1, 2010 8:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Ladies: GET REAL Safety Awareness Seminar on Oct 16th.

"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich

by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Sep 2, 2010 8:51 AM CDT reply actions  

George_Hill3 – Good Deed ALERT: Who wants to go help look for homeless people and feed the with me….

"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich

by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Sep 2, 2010 9:03 AM CDT reply actions  

+1

I’m trying to rediscover verbosity. - LatinD

by J.R. Wilco on Sep 2, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Spurnando got whip flashed

by BlaseE on Sep 2, 2010 10:40 AM CDT reply actions  

more pics of Spurs draft picks at the Worlds here

by BlaseE on Sep 2, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

That’s two good ones now.

You’ve almost got me convinced.

I’m trying to rediscover verbosity. - LatinD

by J.R. Wilco on Sep 2, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

GOL…

In a case that could lead to the first local prosecution under a year-old law against online harassment, a San Antonio sports promoter is accused of using a fake Twitter account to badger a television reporter.

Mike Lavender, 36, has been charged with one count of online harassment-spoofing, an addition to the state’s penal code that one legislator said is intended to protect people against anonymous online attackers.

Lavender has also worked as an announcer at Spurs, Rampage and Missions games. He was charged Friday and was released Saturday from Bexar County Jail after posting $3,500 bail.

"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich

by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Sep 2, 2010 11:01 AM CDT reply actions  

wow

Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™

by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Sep 2, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

i’m his friend on facebook.

Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis

by SpursfanSteve on Sep 3, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another oil rig has exploded in the gulf. I just hope everyone’s OK, and that they had some warning.

Tony apologist since 2010.

by Tim C. on Sep 2, 2010 11:17 AM CDT reply actions  

One injury, no deaths.

Well is owned by Mariner Energy and it wasn’t producing (most likely no spill).

"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich

by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Sep 2, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Macondo wasn’t producing either.

by doggydogworld on Sep 2, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Macondo was still being drilled. This one might be dry or shut off already.

"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich

by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Sep 2, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Meh… I’m trying to dig up info about the well but my company doesn’t carry the data for off-shore wells out that far.

Louisiana’s data organization is notoriously horrendous too. SONRIS through the DNR isn’t much help at the moment.

"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich

by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Sep 2, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

During the last week of August 2010, production from this facility averaged approximately 9.2 million cubic feet of natural gas per day and 1,400 barrels of oil and condensate."

It was temporarily non-production. Until the cause the explosion is known, we won’t know the risk of spill/leaking.

"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich

by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Sep 2, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

::groan::

An oil slick was spotted spreading from the rig.

Tony apologist since 2010.

by Tim C. on Sep 2, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like the storage tanks though.

"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich

by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Sep 2, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Argentina and Serbia advance out of Group A. Serbia won head to head.

US and Slovenia advance out of Group B. Brazil’s last game is in 10 minutes.

Russia and Turkey are coming out of Group C. I’m not sure how they do tiebreaks, but Turkey gets the #1 outright with a win over China. Greece is done.

If France beats NZ, they eliminate Spain. If NZ beats France, there is a three way tie between France, NZ, and Spain. I’m not sure what happens then. Lets root for Spurnando to eliminate Spain. France up 20-17 at the end of the first. Lithuania has the Group D top spot locked up with their 5-0 record.

by BlaseE on Sep 2, 2010 1:26 PM CDT reply actions  

NZ just killed France in the second quarter 22 to 5 to go up by 14 at half…..

by BlaseE on Sep 2, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Spurnando is the only player playing well for France. 8 points on 3 shots with 2 rebounds and an assist and no fouls…

the rest of the team is 1 of 5 from 3 and 4 of 19 overall

by BlaseE on Sep 2, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

The top 4 teams from each group advance. I don’t think anyone that you mentioned is eliminated yet. The teams eliminated:

Group A: Germany & Jordan. If Germany beats Jordan today, they tie Angola who they lost to yesterday.
Group B: Iran & Tunisia
Group C: That one’s complicated, depending on what China does may be a 3 way tie for the last spot.
Group D: Canada & Liberia

by Alamo on Sep 2, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh, i thought only 2 teams advanced

by BlaseE on Sep 2, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

that makes this first round really stupid

by BlaseE on Sep 2, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

they should do 3 teams and give the top seeds a bye

by BlaseE on Sep 2, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Round of 16, baby. “Everyone’s a winner.”

I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.

by Lauri on Sep 2, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had mentioned somewhere earlier that it was pretty close to the NBA playoffs, very few teams are out.

by Alamo on Sep 2, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

33.3% to 46.7% seems pretty big to me

by BlaseE on Sep 2, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

After today and you’re out with your first loss, so anyone might win yet.

by Alamo on Sep 2, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

China is losing 60-22 right now so I think it’s out of their hands at this point.

by BlaseE on Sep 2, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would leave the Ivory Coast & Puerto Rico tied for the 4th spot, and Ivory Coast won their head-to-head matchup so Puerto Rico would be out.

by Alamo on Sep 2, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think puerto rico is in by point differential over China and IC

by BlaseE on Sep 2, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brazil at the moment has a 14 point lead over Croatia. If they hold out they beat out Croatia for the third seed, but Croatia is still in with the 4th seed.

At this point, teams might be calculating “if we win this game, do we wind up in the U.S. bracket”?

by Alamo on Sep 2, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is a guy on Croatia’s team named Ante Tomic……A. Tomic. Possibly the coolest name ever….even if you don’t pronounce it that way.

by BlaseE on Sep 2, 2010 2:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Splitter has 4 assists and 3 steals right now, leading his team in both

by BlaseE on Sep 2, 2010 2:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Kirk Penney is one of the leading scorers in the tournament. He’s done fairly well in the D-league, yet when he’s been called up to an NBA team he has only 30 minutes over 6 games.

by Alamo on Sep 2, 2010 2:55 PM CDT reply actions  

the D League site doesn’t even list him as a player

by BlaseE on Sep 2, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look like he played mainly during the playoffs for Sioux Falls last year, averaging 21.3 ppg and 2 assists in 3 playoff games. He had played back in 2004-05 for Asheville, which is no longer around. That was the same season that he last played in the NBA. He’s currently with a pro-team in New Zealand, which might be his fall back team if he can’t hook up with an NBA team. He turns 30 later this year.

by Alamo on Sep 2, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

In light of this headline from BDL (and to continue poking fun at David Kahn and to continue avoiding work), I propose a fill-in-the-blank contest. Best entry wins absolutely nothing, although I will buy any PtRer the beverage of his/her choice when he/she is in the Denver area.

Even ________ has no idea what ________ is doing.

by CapHill on Sep 2, 2010 3:58 PM CDT reply actions  

and we’ve found the winner!

by BlaseE on Sep 3, 2010 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

GOL

Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™

by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Sep 3, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’m far from an expert on this but I think the next round looks like this:

Serbia vs Croatia
Spain vs Greece

Turkey vs France
Slovenia vs Australia

US vs Angola
Russia vs NZ

Lithuania vs Puerto Rico
Argentina vs Brazil

These might all be wrong though…..if someone can find a posted bracket, please link it.

by BlaseE on Sep 2, 2010 4:02 PM CDT reply actions  

just found it, China is in instead of Puerto Rico, but the rest is right

by BlaseE on Sep 2, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Splitter vs Scola Tuesday Sept 7th

Greece vs Spain is a huge game too and that one is on saturday

by BlaseE on Sep 2, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’ll have a new FP story up later tonight about the elimination rounds.

Tony apologist since 2010.

by Tim C. on Sep 2, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

US has a very favorable bracket, though.

Tony apologist since 2010.

by Tim C. on Sep 2, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

So either Spain or Greece won’t get a medal, both having been among the pre-tournament favorites.

The announcers seemed to be suggesting during the USA-Brazil game that there was talk going on that Spain may not have been that anxious to win their group and then have to play the US before the finals. I believe the announcers were dismissing the talk. I can’t see that playing Greece in the first game could be considered better for them.

by Alamo on Sep 2, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Serbia versus Croatia to start off the next round. I’m sure that one will be a yawner. No deep-seated resentment and history of violent conflict there, no sir.

I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.

by Lauri on Sep 2, 2010 5:51 PM CDT reply actions  

I’d like to wish everyone a happy Labor Day weekend. I hope everyone takes Monday off from work (srsly, even if you don’t currently reside in the US, take Monday off – it’ll be good for you). Yes, I know that tomorrow is Friday and technically I have to work, but I think everyone knows how unproductive I’ll be.

Now I’m off to start spending an inordinate amount of time watching football over the next four days – that’s American football, not that namby, pamby soccer crap. ;) And maybe, just maybe, I’ll spend some time creating some Spurs-related content to contribute to this fine establishment.

by CapHill on Sep 2, 2010 6:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Meh… our Labor Day is on May 1st.

"We choose to go to the moon... and do the other things, not only because they are easy, but because they are hard." - JFK

by silverandblack_davis on Sep 2, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

roll tide!

Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis

by SpursfanSteve on Sep 3, 2010 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’ve never had a vivid Spur-related dream before… but last night I had a nightmare that Timmy had been traded to Portland.

by DrumsInTheDeep on Sep 7, 2010 12:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Did you wake up crying?

I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.

by Lauri on Sep 7, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was definitely crying in my dream, but when I woke up I was just shaken and really confused. I remember breaking down in front of my dad (in the dream), him shrugging, and me checking Blazersedge just to make sure…

by DrumsInTheDeep on Sep 7, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Checking Blazersedge to make sure a dream was really a dream?

Must have been a pretty realistic dream. And since it was so realistic, I feel compelled to ask … who’d we get back in that trade?

I’m trying to rediscover verbosity. - LatinD

by J.R. Wilco on Sep 8, 2010 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, I was checking Blazersedge in the dream. Believe me, it was weird. I have no idea who we got…

by DrumsInTheDeep on Sep 8, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

SBN invades your dreams to the point where you’re using it to fact-check weird things that happen in your dream?

Even Dom Cobb thinks that’s messed up!

I’m trying to rediscover verbosity. - LatinD

by J.R. Wilco on Sep 8, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

They had a “Tim Duncan Party Thread,” and with a picture of balloons and fireworks. I can’t fathom who would be twisted enough to plant such a vision in my dreamspace.

by DrumsInTheDeep on Sep 8, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

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