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FIBA 2010 World Championships Preview

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Is the offseason boring enough for you yet?  Can't wait to see some hoops action?  You're in luck, because the offseason hoops-less doldrums are about to be broken up by the biggest basketball tournament this side of the Olympics.  The 2010 FIBA World Championship starts on Saturday, and we'll break it down a bit after the jump.

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How it Works

If any of you watched the World Cup this summer, you should be pretty familiar with the format of the FIBA tournament.  There's a group round, followed by a single-elimination tournament among the teams that emerge from the group stage.  The big difference from the World Cup is that there are only 4 groups, and 6 teams in each group.  Those 6 teams will all play each other once in the group stage, and the top 4 teams in each group will move on to the elimiation rounds.  Here's how the groups look:

[click the country name to see the roster]

Group A

Argentina
Serbia
Australia
Germany
Angola
Jordan

Group B

United States
Slovenia
Brazil
Croatia
Iran
Tunisia

Group C

Greece
Turkey
Puerto Rico
Russia
China
Côte d'Ivoire

Group D

Spain
France
Canada
Lithuania
New Zealand
Lebanon

In addition to our home countries, Spurs fans might pay special attention to Brazil(Tiago Splitter) and France(Nando De Colo).  As we found out earlier this year, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili are both sitting out this tournament.

PtR Favorites

The following teams are some of the ones to watch in this tournament, that I felt deserved to have little bit more information written about them.  Some of them aren't neccessarily tournament favorites, but some of our favorites, because of who plays for them(I'm looking at you, France).

United States:  Two years later, and the 2008 Olympics "Redeem Team" is already almost completely gone.  New addition Kevin Durant is extremely welcome as this year's go-to scorer, while other newbies like Rajon Rondo and Lamar Odom will hopefully deliver enough to give a respectable showing.  The Americans' biggest post threat is Tyson Chandler, so don't expect them to pound the ball inside.  Luckily, small ball is much better suited to international competition(for the most part) than it is to the NBA.  It won't work against all teams, but it should work against just enough of them.  Also, is Slovenia stalking us?  Kinda creepy how they were in our World Cup group, too.

Argentina:  Without Manu, a lot of folks might say that Argentina's chance are nil.  I disagree.  The Argies will be led by Luis Scola, who won MVP at the Tournament of the Americas last summer.  Without Manu, the Argies still played well enough after a horrid 0-2 start to take 3rd(and the top 3 teams were very, very close).  Plus, they still have quite a few NBA-ers on the squad.  Look for smart plays, and teamwork that makes the group as a whole greater than the sum of its parts.  These are hallmarks of Argentine basketball, and I wouldn't expect them to change.

Spain:  Most of the experts on international ball are calling Spain the favorites to win the tournament.  It's not that I disagree, but I don't think they're head and shoulders above any of the other contenders.  Without Pau Gasol, it's going to be tougher for these guys, even though his younger(and less ugly) brother Marc will be manning the middle for the Spaniards.  Rubio, Navarro, and a host of other perimeter threats make this team one of the best in the tournament, but they aren't invincible.

Greece:  Greece is a pretty mysterious program to me.  Most of their players stay at home to play professional ball, despite the potential for better earnings in the NBA.  They seem to play good team ball, but they underwhelmed at Eurobasket last year, and came very close to a loss against Turkey.  A familiar name to Spurs fans will be Ioannis Bourousis, who is one of the aforementioned players who turned down good money from an NBA team(the Spurs, no less!) to stay with Olympiacos last summer.

France:  Tony Parker's decision to sit out the tournament, combined with Roddy Beaubois's broken foot, mean that Nando De Colo is going to have lead guard duties on the French squad(Also,c heck out the interview he did with Project Spurs recently).  At Valencia last year, being the lead guard meant a lot of highlight-reel passes, but a lot of turnovers as well.  He's a fun player to watch, and Ian Mahinmi will also be playing for the French, in case he's not dead to anyone here.  The French had bad luck at Eurobasket last year, finishing 5th despite only losing one game in the entire tournament, which gave them the best record.  But they drew Spain in the first elimination round, and the rest is history.

Brazil:  Finally, we come to the team that features the newest [official] member of the Spurs, Tiago Splitter.  Between Splitter and Anderson Varejao, Brazil has a pretty good frontcourt.  Barbosa and Huertas are the main perimeter threats, along with Alex Garcia, who briefly played for the Spurs in 2003-04.  Also of note:  Brazil is coached by the same man who led Argentina to the 2004 Olympic gold medal.  Nene just got scratched from the team a couple days ago because of a nagging injury, so it looks like Tiago will be the team's full-time center.  Let's hope he plays well and avoids injury.

Tournament Schedule

Check here for the schedule of games in the group stage.  It looks as though all of the games will be aired on ESPN or ESPN 3, so be sure to check out some of the action live if you can.

So, who do the good folks of PtR think will win?  And are any of you going to be watching other teams besides the ones I previewed above?  Tell us more in the comments.

Poll
Who will be the 2010 FIBA World Champions?
Argentina
65 votes
United States
333 votes
Spain
56 votes
Greece
15 votes
Brazil
61 votes
Someone else(comment)
32 votes

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Ian Injured

Ian recently suffered a fracture on the middle finger of his left hand and would have to miss at least the first two games. He might be replaced on the roster and not play at all.

by Alamo on Aug 22, 2010 3:22 PM CDT reply actions  

poor yawn

You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime

by the little o on Aug 22, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

A couple of weeks ago, France had an interesting roster and looked like they might be a contender. Since then besides Beaubois; Turiaf and Noah are no longer on the roster. That seemed to mean that like it or not, France was going to have to make considerable use of Ian. Now with even him missing, France does not look like they’ll be as much of a contender. It appears that NBA players Nicholas Batum and Boris Diaw will still be on the team. Florent Pietrus, older brother of Mickael Pietrus, might be another interesting player to watch. Supposedly Larry Brown wanted to sign Florent to an NBA contract with Charlotte last year.

by Alamo on Aug 22, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some things never change.

"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich

by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Aug 23, 2010 7:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

great game today. too bad spain lost

You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime

by the little o on Aug 22, 2010 4:02 PM CDT reply actions  

It seemed like Spain shot terribly most of the first half, looked much better the second half. Both Javtokas yesterday and Marc Gasol today looked good even though their teams did not seem to be looking for them to score much. Looking forward to seeing how Tiago does against the US team.

by Alamo on Aug 22, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

likewise, hopefully he doesn’t get injured from playing too many minutes due to Nene being out.

You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime

by the little o on Aug 22, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

it wasnt that bad that the US won :-)

tight game – spain lived at the line in the first half as beneficiaries of all kinds of crazy foul calls against the US. second half, coach K continued to prove to the world that he can’t figure out how to guard pick and roll. for the life of me, i can’t figure out why more teams don’t throw that at him more at duke, but i digress.

will look forward to the rondo/rubio match-up that we didnt get to see today.

by bones on Aug 22, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice article. A little basketball content was refreshing. So close to football and the NBA now. Fantasy Draft party this Thursday. Things are going to get fun very soon.

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by Fred Silva on Aug 22, 2010 6:35 PM CDT reply actions  

This brings up a good point… yahoo fantasy league, anyone?

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by Tim C. on Aug 23, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe – if there is $ invovled

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by Joe deLarios on Aug 24, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

or beer.

"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich

by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Aug 25, 2010 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

After seeing the Spain game, I gotta say Rubio is quite legit! I was impressed.

by LionZion on Aug 22, 2010 8:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I was a skeptic, but yeah, the same.

by BlaseE on Aug 23, 2010 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I liked Rubio defense but i didn’t see what all the fuss is about

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Aug 23, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good post, Tim. Thanks for keeping us informed.

In other news, Nenad Krstic hit Ioannis Bourousis with a chair, probably WWE-style, in an exhibition game.

"We choose to go to the moon... and do the other things, not only because they are easy, but because they are hard." - JFK

by silverandblack_davis on Aug 22, 2010 8:36 PM CDT reply actions  

AUSTRALIA WILL WIN!!!!

(only joking)

Hopefully we get some coverage in Oz though.

by werdnawee on Aug 22, 2010 8:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Do you guys have a new government yet? I heard that the election was real close.

Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.

by olf on Aug 22, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry for getting off topic in a non-DTOUR thread.

Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.

by olf on Aug 22, 2010 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, inconclusive.

Basically, both major parties need to get the “Independants” (3-4 of them) to side with them to form government.

And if that doesn’t happen, YES, we have to get out on a Saturday and go vote again.

So we have a caretaker government for about a week if any other country wants to come in and invade us. INSTABILITY AND KANGAROOS JUMPING EVERYWHERE!!!

by werdnawee on Aug 23, 2010 2:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who would want to invade Australia? You’re like the Switzerland of the Southern Hemisphere. Just as cute and cuddly as a koala bear.

I’m trying to rediscover verbosity. - LatinD

by J.R. Wilco on Aug 27, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

The elections were “inconclusive” so the Labor Party PM is trying to form a coalition to govern and stay in power, if she can’t then they’ll have a hung parliament which sounds like something which should make the men proud but in reality it’s not such a good situation. I don’t know what happens after that because parliaments have all sorts of silly rules.

I did a lot of soul searching. I didn't find anything.

by Hipuks on Aug 22, 2010 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, I see you still have your finger on the pulse of the southern hemisphere. Or perhaps you have been Googling again.

Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.

by olf on Aug 22, 2010 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

The BBC has been my homepage for years so I picked up a thing or two along the way. Still can’t understand cricket though.

I did a lot of soul searching. I didn't find anything.

by Hipuks on Aug 23, 2010 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cricket is a foreign language

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Aug 24, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

wtf? are you spying on us?

olf – no we don’t. it make take some time for it to be sorted out, and then theres the very real possibility that we’ll have to vote again if it doesn’t work out. we could have 3 different prime ministers in the space of 3 months (not to reveal my political leanings too much, but i hope we don’t).

free malik hairston!
perth wildcats - 2009/2010 nbl champions baby!

by sleep research facility on Aug 22, 2010 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow. 3 different prime ministers in the space of 3 months would be brutal.

Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.

by olf on Aug 23, 2010 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I see….Interesting.

by werdnawee on Aug 23, 2010 2:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

What would be interesting is if you guys end up with this manly man as Prime Minister:

I did a lot of soul searching. I didn't find anything.

by Hipuks on Aug 23, 2010 4:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

kill it with fire!

free malik hairston!
perth wildcats - 2009/2010 nbl champions baby!

by sleep research facility on Aug 23, 2010 4:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

BANNED.

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by silverandblack_davis on Aug 23, 2010 4:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hipuks just got me fired from my job.

"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich

by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Aug 23, 2010 7:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is just now happening to you? He’d ended three of my careers so far.

I’m trying to rediscover verbosity. - LatinD

by J.R. Wilco on Aug 27, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

isn’t that who we have running this site?

You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime

by the little o on Aug 25, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not a bad observation. He does look vaguely Dubelyewvatsesque

I’m trying to rediscover verbosity. - LatinD

by J.R. Wilco on Aug 27, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

“Hung parliament”?….Those aussies, they’re so “cocky”….:-)

by titansfan4ever on Aug 23, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bad news for Spain: Calderon scratched for Worlds.

Tony apologist since 2010.

by Tim C. on Aug 23, 2010 9:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Box Scores

Any idea if there will regularly be box scores published once the actual tournament begins?
They’ve been few and far between with the exhibition “friendly” games. After doing a good bit of searching, I found a “box score” that showed total points per player on www.basketballinspain.com for yesterday’s game, but nothing else. For the Lithuania game, I could find statistics for the Lithuania team at www.lithuaniabasketball.com, nothing for the U.S. team.

by Alamo on Aug 23, 2010 11:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Our chances aren’t good, but I’ll still root for my guys.

I smell death... everywhere.

by LatinD on Aug 23, 2010 11:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Team USA has cut Celtics guard Rajon Rondo.

- Woj

Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internetâ„¢

by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Aug 24, 2010 12:30 PM CDT reply actions  

They’re reporting that he actually bowed out, rather than they cut him. Colangelo is saying he came and said he had family and other personal matters to attend to prior to the start of the NBA seasonl

by Alamo on Aug 24, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was just noticing a similarity to the NBA. After completing the Preliminary Round (called the regular season in the NBA), they eliminate only 1/3 of the teams prior to the playoff rounds. Do the teams eliminated after the Preliminary Round go into a Lottery?

by Alamo on Aug 24, 2010 1:23 PM CDT reply actions  

yes they do. But it has a different name. Its called “getting a passport”. A player of ANY nationality can play for ANY national team….you just need to do some paperwork. Germany “passported” Chris Kaman that way, ignoring the fact that Kaman is as german as I am. Like the draft, they use it to balance the competition.

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by Chilai on Aug 25, 2010 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

probably similar to the way PtR’s favorite womens baller (Becky Hammon) suited up for Russia.

by bones on Aug 25, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

It seems Matt Bonner wants to be passported by Canada but they’re not so sure they want him.

by Alamo on Aug 25, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Team USA beat the crap out of Greece today. But, Bourousis didn’t play and the Greeks probably didn’t care that much about a warmup game anyway.

Tony apologist since 2010.

by Tim C. on Aug 25, 2010 1:28 PM CDT reply actions  

The US-Greece friendly just finished up. Based on the past two games, here’s what I surmise about team USA.

As expected, they will have problems guarding bigs in the post. This won’t matter though if their guards dominate the way they did against Greece. If a team like Greece is going to beat Team USA, they’re going to have to call on their inner Greg Popovich to enforce the pace to the slowest possible level. Spain, though, is probably the exception to this.

Furthermore, despite the size disadvantage the US is rebounding the ball very effectively. Durant and Odom are establishing solid position and not giving up any offensive rebounds.

Except for a few breakdowns, the team defensive also looks very solid. The individual defense regularly appears suspect, but the help seems to arrive on time. Again, Durant and Odom are the spearhead for this.

The US will win though primarily because of Durant. It’s obvious that he can score pretty much at will. He’s the US ace in the hole if things start to go awry.

The biggest American concern right now seems to be shooting. This is an Irony considering the emphasis on it when building this team. Other than Gordon, the entire team seems to be having trouble adjusting to the smaller ball when shooting 3s and FTs. It’ll be curious to see what will happen when teams start to turn to a tightly packed zone defense.

The other major concern is ball-movement. It was excellent against Greece, but often much less so against Spain. After I criticized Rose in an earlier post, he dominated today. Still, I worry about what happens if he goes cold…will he start becoming a facilitator or will he kill the team with forced shots? Durant should be the only player granted isolation plays in the half court with any regularity.

A couple other tidbits:
Kevin Love should be playing ahead of Chandler.

Billups seems really slow out there; almost as if he’s lost a step. It’ll be interesting to see him in NBA action again.

by Neuwaldegg on Aug 25, 2010 1:33 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Thanks for the great analysis. This brings a question to the forefront of my mind that has been percolating in the recesses of my brain since the Lebacle:

If you could choose any current NBA player to start your team, which player would you choose and why?

I would go with the Durantula. He’s not be as good as Kobe, LeBron and Wade yet, but considering how much he has improved over the last two seasons, his youth, and his attitude, I think it’s a no brainer. Anyone else have a differing opinion?

by CapHill on Aug 25, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would probably Longhorn homer it and go with Durant, but I think Deron Williams would be a top option. I think he is the best PG from a skill, leadership, and everything else perspective, and we are in a PG league with the hand checking rules and such. I think Durant and Williams are two guys you could trust long term in a small market if you invest in them.

by BlaseE on Aug 25, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

While I love his talent, I’m not crazy about Williams’ attitude.

I’m trying to rediscover verbosity. - LatinD

by J.R. Wilco on Aug 27, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I still think choosing LeBron would make a lot of sense.

by Gino20 on Aug 25, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, for sure. He is definitely on the short list.

by BlaseE on Aug 25, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with Gino20

He is still young and his shot is also improving every year. Not to mention his skill set coupled with the physical abilities he has.

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Aug 25, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’d like to go with someone that is similar to Tim Duncan in his prime. If you’re talking about for just one season, maybe that would be Tim Duncan. If you’re talking about for a number of years, that seems more difficult. I hope that turns out to be Tiago Splitter. It could possibly be Pau Gasol, but then he’s only a few years behind Tim. I rather like what I’ve seen of Kevin Love, who is only 21. I suppose that’s why I keep suggesting Minnesota dump him by trading him to the Spurs so that he could form a twin towers with Tiago for years to come.

Kobe has won when he has had either Shaq or Gasol on his team, Wade the one year when he had Shaq, and Lebron and Durant are still waiting to be teamed with the right big man. Tim is perhaps most consistent at winning as the team evolves around him.

by Alamo on Aug 25, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I too would start with Timmeh in his prime, but I should have been more clear with my question. I’m talking about current NBA players as is, which is why I’m leaning towards Durant, over LeBron and Kobe, because of his age (Kobe) and his propensity for showing great improvement (LeBron). Unfortunately, there is not a current big man that I would start a team with that doesn’t have major question marks. Gasol would probably be the closest, but I’m not sure if he’s a #1 option type of guy. It’s a great discussion to have though.

by CapHill on Aug 25, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Love

is a good player but he is nowhere near Timmy in his prime or even now defensively. Tim will go down as one of the best because he effects games is so many different ways

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Aug 25, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you plan to take salaries into account? I think I could have both Durant and Love over the next 4-5 years for Lebron’s salary. It becomes more difficult to build a team around Lebron’s salary that Durant’s when starting from scratch.

by Alamo on Aug 26, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

A fun game could be “How would you spend your team’s first 25 or 30 million dollars of salary?”

by BlaseE on Aug 26, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Methinks that would be a great discussion thread. I’ll try to throw together a post tonight.

by CapHill on Aug 26, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Even better would be if we could do it based on what their salaries SHOULD be, not the actual salaries. Durant at 5 mil, or whatever his rookie deal dictates, just isn’t fair. Does that make sense?

by Gino20 on Aug 27, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, the rookie scale thing messes with it….if only we could have someone assign salaries based on something like fantasy draft position, but even that would be pretty flawed

by BlaseE on Aug 30, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

The U.S.‘s first game against Croatia doesn’t look like it should be too much of a challenge for them, though their 7’2" center Andre Tomic (a Utah Jazz draft pick) might cause some problems. Sunday’s game vs. Slovenia might become more interesting. Slovenia has Goran Dragic to handle the ball and a number of tall bigs. Then after playing those 2 games, on Monday the US plays their 3rd straight game against Tiago Splitter and Brazil. Brazil will be playing their own back-to-back-to-back, but their schedule appears a bit easier with Iran and Tunisia. Both the US and Brazil get Tuesday off, then flip opponents on Wednesday & Thursday.

 Should there happen to wind up a 3 way tie with each team having a 5-1 record, how are seedings determined? Let’s say Slovenia surprises the US, but loses to Brazil while winning their other games; the US wins all their games other than Slovenia; and Brazil loses only to the US. Do they go to some type of point differential?

by Alamo on Aug 27, 2010 2:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Question

Are moving screens legal in Fiba play? I’ve noticed quite a bit of shoving going on when an offensive player sets a pick and it never seems to be called.

by Neuwaldegg on Aug 28, 2010 10:18 AM CDT reply actions  

WIN. They’re trying to kill me.

I smell death... everywhere.

by LatinD on Aug 28, 2010 3:32 PM CDT reply actions  

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