In One Fell Swoop
by Tim C. on Jul 9, 2010 6:13 PM CDT
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PrintThe Spurs have come to an agreement with three of their free agent targets in the last 24 hours.
First, Matt Bonner agreed to re-sign with the Spurs. Big deal.
Then, we heard that Tiago Splitter is coming!!!
Now, the news comes that Richard Jefferson will also re-sign with the Spurs. Miami who?
Big props to Ticket 760 for breaking a lot of Spurs news this offseason.
So, the Spurs gone from no movement to getting Splitter and a decent small forward. Aside from bringing Bonner back, I think most of us can agree that this is good news. Have a good weekend, everyone!
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Having Splitter will mean we can use Bonner more as a 3 shooter and less as a 4. I have no problem with Bonner, as long as we are not asking him to do things he can’t do—like defend the paint, dribble, guard the opposing 4 or 5, etc.
Splitter will help a lot, and I am very enthusiastic about Anderson. He is a terrible, terrible interview. But the kid can play, and he fills an immediate need. I think the Spurs are two deep at every position, should have an excellent bench this season, as of right now. But I wonder if there aren’t more deals forthcoming…
I have no problem with Bonner, as long as we are not asking him to do things he can’t do
Thanks for my new sig.
If you don’t need ACL’s to make it big, you don’t need pinky fingers. - completely deck
Seriously.
I have no problem with Bonner, as long as we are not asking him to do things he can’t do. - quincyscott
Wow, I’m honored. I think. Sure, what the hell, I’m honored.
by quincyscott on Jul 11, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh funkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk yeahhh!!
Today is a damn good day! Miami who?!
Go Spurs Go!
by Daniel_B on Jul 9, 2010 6:23 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 9, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
wow you have been saving all these gifs for quit some time now huh.
GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2011 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 9, 2010 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
that’s a little to creepy for my tastes
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
that’s not creepy enough for mine, almost though.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Can you imagine if the next set of news is that we signed another 3 point shooter like Anthony Morrow or a good defender like Ronnie Brewer. Talk about epic.
I think we might already have enough shooting. But James Jones or Wright would be ideal, IMO.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
More than ideal. I’d love to score another guy who has some actual NBA experience under his belt to be a rotation swingman.
Maybe a creative sign-and-trade for Posey would work too, to help the NOOCH bring their team salary down.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
So we use Bird Rights to sign Bon-Bon and RJ and the MLE on Tiago. That means we could still use the LLE on a SF. WOO HOO!
Or a sign-and-trade… we can still do that with Horry and the JV, I believe. Also, we have limited Bird rights to Yawn(we can sign him for any amount up to the amount his team option would have been for next year($1,786,354 according to ShamSports)
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
That Horry deal is possible ?I know not to question your information Tim but has anyone ever actually traded a guy who technically retired three years ago.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Aaron McKie was part of the Gasol trade.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
Thanks. I guess the Spurs just never saw any reason to use him then.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
From Keith Van Horn’s Wiki:
Following the 2006 NBA season, he took a year off in order to spend time with his family.40 On February 19, 2008 Van Horn signed a three-year deal (only the first year guaranteed) with the Mavericks in order to help complete a blockbuster trade that sent Jason Kidd from the New Jersey Nets to the Mavericks and Devin Harris to the Nets.41 As expected, Van Horn didn’t play at all for the Nets and was waived on October 23rd, 2008.42
Players don’t officially retire because Keith Van Horn collected a huge check for helping that deal go through.
don’t get in a hurry yet boys and girls, we still need a backup SF. And i mean a true SF. Gee isn’t there yet but he’s getting there. Still need Wright or Jones very badly.
I think the 3-point game will still be a bit weak but with more minutes to Temple and Anderson in the fold things should be better in that department. Our P&R defense just got better, but now we need to teach RJ how to play help defense.
How is Gee’s 3-point shooting, just wondering
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
biggest improvement here is not Splitter, but that Duncan can finally play PF for once
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
Doesn’t really matter if Timmy plays the 4 or 5, at least he’s not going to be playing both positions without any good help next season.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
he does better and feels more comfortable playing and defending the 4
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
Duncan hasn’t been able to defend 4s in two years. Splitter will have to be doing that.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
I think Hairston is up to backup small forward. Althought i’m worried that he isn’t going to summer league any more…?
"When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges."
I rather have Splitter guarding centers than Timmy. Then again I rather have him guarding any big.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Splitter will usually guard the more mobile big, regardless of position.
by doggydogworld on Jul 9, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Splitter’s probably going to be more useful against quicker bigs. But expect him to be matched up defensively with the opponents’ best big on a nightly basis… he’ll probably save a lot of impact on Tim’s knees that way.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
ah, the Admiral (sigh)
"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jul 10, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
::Turns to his right toward the “1989-2003” poster, salutes::
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 10, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
C: Splitter/Blair/Bonner
PF: Duncan/Dyess
SF: Jefferson/Wright?/Gee
SG: Manu/Anderson/Hairston
PG: Parker/Hill/Temple
That’s a good looking team especially with Parker now fully recovered and Manu and Duncan given time to rest/heal. Two of GHT will have to be D-League but i have no problem there. We could also bring back in Bogans (I hope for so much) to get us 15 players and add a little defensive spark (if defense can be sparky whatsoever)
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
I seriously think the Spurs will only keep one of the group of Hairston, Gee and Temple.
Spiltter/Blair
Duncan/Dice/Bonner
Jefferson/Anderson
Ginobili/???
Parker/Hill
I would love to bring Manu off the bench still. Which is why if we were to snag somebody like Brewer, Morrow or Dorrell Wright they could be our starting two guard.
I’d love to get Wesley Matthews, too, if he’s willing to take what we can offer.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 9, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
can someone tell me what Matthews does well and not well?
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
From what I’ve heard, he’s a really good all around player. He’s a tough defender, started with Utah at SG and had ~9 ppg on 52% & 38 3P%. I really haven’t seen more of him than you have, but he’s definitely an improvement over Bogans, no question.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 9, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
And he’s still just 23, so he has plenty of room for improvement as well.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 9, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
…………..ME WANT!
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
We are not really talking about playing Blair at the C position? Or are we still playing the “timmy (or possibly tiago) isn’t a Center at all even though Dejauns taking the power forward on D”.
"When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges."
DeJuan and Timmy played the same position, whatever you want to call it. That’s why you never saw them on the court at the same time.
by doggydogworld on Jul 9, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Wesley Matthews
is a really good player. The Jazz found a gem last year in him and if we could snatch him away that would be great!
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jul 10, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I would like Mnau off the bench too. I commend his amazingness starting last year, but he still prefers to come off the bench and that second unit lacks some firepower.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
True. Whatever happened to BAM from t\last season?
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Manu ended up starting, Mason sucked worse as the season went along, Bonner got hurt, George got moved to the starting lineup, Finley left. So, not much?
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
That’s just slightly depressing to remember the sequence of unfortunate events that occurred last year.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Yeah, we’ll need a new name for ’em this year.
Or maybe, we just don’t talk so much about having the “best bench in the league” and see if we can watch the Spurs NOT get steamrolled by the opposition’s 2nd unit in the playoffs next year.
I have no problem with Bonner, as long as we are not asking him to do things he can’t do. - quincyscott
I’m definitely guilty of getting overly optimistic on our bench last season. I am determined to keep my mouth shut a little more this year. Let the Lakers and Heat fans do all the mouthing off they want to. I love my Spurs, but I’m taking a wait and see approach.
by quincyscott on Jul 11, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
By the time we got to Phoenix (haha) the bench was pretty much decimated. Finley and Ratliff had quit and RMJ was injured/psychologically devastated. The bench had no vet leaders, no true bigs and no defenders (Hill was supposed to be a defender but Phoenix proved otherwise).
The bench was never as good as we thought at the start of the season, but it was better then than at the end.
by doggydogworld on Jul 11, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
C’mon, now. Is NOBODY going to call kaiser on the Mnau thing?
Do I have to do everything around here?
I have no problem with Bonner, as long as we are not asking him to do things he can’t do. - quincyscott
I was supposed to mention that when I first read it. I completely forgot about it though.
If you liked it, then you shoulda put a fifth ring on it.
by day_late_friend on Jul 11, 2010 6:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I did a google image search yesterday and failed to find anything sufficiently funny.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
I was thinking less about an image and more about an approximate audio representation.
I have no problem with Bonner, as long as we are not asking him to do things he can’t do. - quincyscott
You just don’t get it, do you? Mnau is a combination of Manu and the Brazilian city of Manaus. Which is just a clever way to combine Manu and Tiago into one word. Kind of like Bennifer, Brangelina, etc.
I seriously think the Spurs will only keep one of the group of Hairston, Gee and Temple.
I think they’ll keep at least two and probably all three. You need players at the end of the bench who are happy just to be there. Who will practice hard even though they mostly play in garbage time. Not players like FInley and RMJ and Haislip and Ratliff who will complain about minutes and sow seeds of discord and ask to be given away for free to another team.
by doggydogworld on Jul 9, 2010 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Temple seems like the most comfortable of those three in that role.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Temple is going to play 1/2. Since PG is a harder to cover spot, Spurs will def keep him. He also was impressive last year.
2/3 will maybe be both Hairston/Gee. Gist has to show something. Spurs will still likely look at a big 3, since both Gee and Hairston are kind of small in the 6’4 to 6’6 range.
Yeah I agree. There is no way we let other teams snag up Temple or Gee. Gee should get a contract even if he spends most of his team next season on the Toros (which he might not be able to with our lack of depth at SF).
Why is everyone listing Blair as backup C? He should be switched with Dyess.
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
So our summer of excitement began and ended in a matter of………an hour?
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
That’s pretty damn good, I’d say.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 9, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
well these are all the things we expected (to varying degrees)…i still think the Spurs will add another piece or two and we have the excitement of seeing our young guys fight for a real chance at minutes…
yeah i know but I’m just saying it all happened so quickly as the title of the post says, it all happened In One Fell Swoop.
It’s just a startling contrast to how slow Chicago was to offering a contract to Boozer, or how slow Warriors-Knicks trade took to come to fruition (was in works for about a week or so)
Maybe I’m just being picky but it’s just such a startling contrast as is everything that compares Spurs to NBA.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
The Spurs have been working on their deals much longer than those other teams. We just don’t hear anything about it.
by doggydogworld on Jul 10, 2010 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I don’t remember who said it, but during the draft, one of the ESPN reporters was talking about how no one ever knew what the Spurs were doing before it actually happened. Apparently, there are no “sources” in the Spurs organization and if you do “hear” anything, it’s usually a smokescreen.
We should always expect the unexpected when dealing with the Spurs.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
What a difference a day makes.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
SWEET BASKETBALL #$##% JESUS finally after 3 years he is finally here.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKK YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2011 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)
Im not from Texas
is this is a credible source?
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
Yes it is, plus it’s also been in the local news already.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 9, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
well this isn’t exactly ESPN worthy
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
What?!? Are you kidding me? I hear they’re having a 1 hour Matt Bonner decision special
by NinjaRabbi on Jul 10, 2010 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL!
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jul 10, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
YYEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
Can’t wait for the preseason!!! SA still not done they can still do some things before the season starts, trades maybe?
ypu they can but the spurs are off to a great start and I fell this team if healty can go all the way
GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2011 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)
And the key word in that sentence……..the.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
So it wasn’t “ypu” or “healty”?
Ok, I’ll give you that, but which the was key for you?
I have no problem with Bonner, as long as we are not asking him to do things he can’t do. - quincyscott
GOL
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 11, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
About to hop on a plane for a 3 week holiday and I’ll have limited internet access.
Great news to heard before taking flight.
Have a great few weeks everyone!!! I’m climbing a mountain in SE Asia ;)
Splitter has a 10 minute special on Univision. Rumor is he’s planning to announce he’s coming to San Antonio.
Is this a joke?
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 9, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
A Day No Jerseys Would Burn
Can we all agree that this is a great day to be a Spurs fan? Am I going out on a limb to say that it’s better to be a Spurs fan than a Cavs fan today? Is that a crazy idea?
Any day is better to be a Spurs fan than a Cavs fan.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
+1
"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jul 10, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
+10000000000000000000000000000000
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jul 10, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Contrary to reports, #spurs deal for Splitter not done. Still have to barter over Spanish Lg. buyout. Can be mere formality, but not always
-JMcDonald_SAEN
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 9, 2010 8:38 PM CDT reply actions
This was set up years ago and his team’s GM has said repeatedly Tiago was going, so it’s hard to see any snags. How many NBA-caliber talents do you think they’ll be able to sign in the future if they try to dork Tiago around?
by doggydogworld on Jul 9, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope this guarantees us another 50 win season or two or three!
"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
Yup I hope Tiago dosnt turn out to be bust if he can average about 10 and 6 boards a game I will consider him soild player. I already plan to get his jersey when I return to SA this summer.
GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2011 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)
i agree
10 and 6 would be a solid starting front court player. Especially if he plays defense as well as reported. Man next season is going to be so damn good!
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jul 10, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Would like to see Shaq coming of the bench. Seriously. I disliked him with the Lakers, but overall he is one of the best C’s of all time. The more bulk we have in our frontcourt the better we match up with the Lakers, who are the only real obstacle for us to get to the Finals. Pau and the other dude would have trouble fighting Timmy, Shaq, Tiago, and Blair.
Really excited for next season. I wish where I worked was run by Spurs management. :)
Agreed, Id welcome Shaq
His offensive numbers werent bad at all last year
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
I agree as well, even with Tiago here I still would love Shaq to come off the bench and maybe start in games where we play bigs like Bynum, Bogut, Howard, etc. where his size at center is valuable.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
Not even a bear with chainsaw as arms is more bad ass than this news.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 9, 2010 9:49 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
NOT EVEN THIS
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 9, 2010 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t know. I think it would make it tough on opposing defenses and offenses, much more than Splitter or Duncan.
spurs returing back to the twin tower days?
GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2011 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)
Yes, although Splitter isn’t quite like Duncan back in the day.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
NOTHING is quite like Duncan back in the day ;)
"You may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas." -Davy Crockett
"Give me an army of West Point graduates, and I'll win a battle. Give me a handful of Texas Aggies, and I'll win a war." -Gen. George S. Patton
poor Duncan in today.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 9, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
a shadow of his former self… i guess that’s really saying something about how good his former self was
by RamblingSpur on Jul 9, 2010 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
thabeet described blair to a police sketch artist?
by BlaseE on Jul 9, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
Its from info from him, the bobcats, and the thunder
by NinjaRabbi on Jul 10, 2010 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This deserves to be immortalized in the quotes page.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
seconded
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Done.
Blase, please check out the Quotes page which has been updated to reflect your recent awesomeness.
I have no problem with Bonner, as long as we are not asking him to do things he can’t do. - quincyscott
let’s not get carried away, chainsaw bears are bad ass, but not as bad ass as AK-74SU wielding zombie eyed Santa with a cigarette
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
Holy Shit!
"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jul 10, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
wasn’t that dude supposed to be on Lost?
"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jul 10, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
until the 2 signings (bonner? lol) are announced officially, i ain’t getting my hopes up for nobody, ya hear?
free malik hairston!
perth wildcats - 2009/2010 nbl champions baby!
by sleep research facility on Jul 9, 2010 10:22 PM CDT reply actions
so who are you getting your hopes up for?
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 9, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
the JV filling the rare role of player/assistant coach.
free malik hairston!
perth wildcats - 2009/2010 nbl champions baby!
by sleep research facility on Jul 9, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
RJ was second on our team in blocks last season to Duncan’s 117 with his 40. Blair had 39. Dice had 32. Hill had 26. Bonner and Manu tied for 24. Ratliff is next with 18 in 21 games and only 183 minutes.
Splitter and another year for Blair should really help our blocks, especially if you consider Blair probably got some fair blocks that were called fouls because he was a rookie. No respect.
So offseason:
- Tony and Manu aren’t playing internationally
- RJ has a year in the system and knows it would help the team if he could make a 3 like he has in the past and should be capable of and if he could develop a little more post defense in case we need him to be a small ball 4. He couldn’t do it last year but his body and athleticism say he should capable.
- Another year of development and offseason training for Hill and Blair, two big rotation guys
- Drafting possibly the best scorer in the draft in James Anderson
- Getting Splitter
- Having Temple through training camp and having been through the playoffs with us
- D League Rookie of the Year, Gee, can make the roster
- Hairston can get healthy
- Retain Bonner (I know some people might see this as a negative but I think this is a really good move for the team)
- and we still have the LLE and veteran min’s to get some experience or a specialist
Our team kicks ass.
your block stats got me interested in blocks per 36 minutes last year. obviously some players didn’t get many minutes so their stats should be taken with a grain a salt. So I displayed the minutes played too.
player blocks per 36 total minutes played
ratfill 3.5 183
c. jackson 2.9 25
merlin 1.7 2438
yawn 1.7 165
ma ha lip 1.6 44
ma ha ton 1.0 317
beast .9 1494
dice .7 1617
rouge .7 1161
peanut .6 2520
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions
fudge, didn’t turn out how I expected.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
i would have never guessed jackson played 25 minutes to haislip’s 44…..
and ian had less minutes than ratliff? really, pop?
so, today’s the first time i’m really diving into basketball-reference for the first time, and it’s just so enlightening and overwhelming at the same time. I don’t even know where to begin to analyze stats from (So I’ll probably try to look at different types to try to familiarize myself with that site). It’s really cool. Just thought I’d share that.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
i asked them if i could get a years experienced filter because blair was that awesome that no one asked them that they needed to compare rookie records before….i don’t know if they have that yet though
haha, yeah, blair certainly has some special stats for his rookie year. And I’m sure that if some other team picked him up, he would’ve played a lot more minutes and logged better stats. With the Spurs though, I think he’ll become more of a complete player and learn how to play the right way.
I think he has the potential to be a poor man’s moses malone. Baby Moses.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions
MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
3205 6.6 11.6 .571 0.0 0.0 .000 4.2 6.6 .635 5.1 8.5 13.6 0.9 1.0 1.4 3.6 3.2 17.5
1494 6.6 11.9 .556 0.0 0.0 .000 2.1 3.9 .547 4.8 7.9 12.7 1.6 1.2 0.9 2.7 5.4 15.4
The first’s is Moses’ rookie year, the second is Blair’s. All per 36 minutes.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions
remember when he got robbed of his 30 -20 game against OKC?….that was fucking nuts and that was because Duncan rested that game after we beat LA….28 points and 21 rebounds and Pop says:
“I’m going to take what he gave us tonight, and I don’t know how he did it,” said Popovich. “I have no clue what his moves are. He’s just a basketball player. He hustles his [tail] off, he’s got a nose for the ball, he’s got great hands and he does what you saw. We didn’t teach him any of it. He brought it all with him.”
Next season, we get to see that plus what he didn’t bring with him.
I remember that game, it was fun how pissed off the whole okc areana was that every rebound and putback was going to blair that game. He did get robbed, stupid refs. Imagine when he learns not to commit silly fouls so he stays on the floor longer, and in the process plays better defense. Wow.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions
i was there for that game :) got showed on the jumbotron thing in my Duncan jersey, too. :D
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Jul 10, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions
cooooooooooooooooooool!
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by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
While it’s not like Blair is lacking for nicknames, I like Baby Moses.
Cap, take note, s’il vous plaît?
I have no problem with Bonner, as long as we are not asking him to do things he can’t do. - quincyscott
Whereas I know the original reference is to Moses Malone (who is highly underrated in my book), Baby Moses brings to mind Exodus and the story of biblical Moses hidden in the reeds as a baby. Then I remember my friend who gave birth this year to a 10 lb, 9 oz baby, and I suddenly feel a lot of sympathy for Moses’ mother, as I’m imagining Moses as a very large baby. So, to make a short story long, we’ll see about the nickname.
A real rap I co-wrote about Moses Malone circa 2008
I wanna be like, I wanna be like, I wanna be like Moses Malone (x2)
Why would you go and leave me all alone, when I’m sittin’ here hangin’ like Moses Malone / On the rim, on the court, like a king on a throne, I’m a badass mother f*#ker just like Moses Malone
I was just f*#kin’ with you about being accident-prone / I’ve got a record contract with Deutsch Gramaphone / The stegosaurus army is afraid of my moan / ’Cause no one f*#ks around with Moses Malone. Dig!
I’ve got a camera on my cellular phone / Every bank in space wants to give me a loan / I’ve got a little puppy, on his neck is a cone / He plays some f*#king catch with Moses Malone.
Some superhero s#*t like an extra chromosome / I took my daughter’s class to the Discovery Zone / I don’t need a machine gun, I’ll do it on my own / No automatic weapons for Moses Malone
I’m as real as dinosaur bone / But I ain’t no fossil, I’m a petrified stone / I wish that I could be him, but I"m only a clone / I got a bunch of snakes named Moses Malone.
Don’t try to buy me bacon, or even a scone / Play it to the gospel of Moses Malone.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 11, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I must admit that when I read the subject line, I was not expecting the awesomeness that followed.
I especially enjoyed
I’m as real as dinosaur bone / But I ain’t no fossil, I’m a petrified stone / I wish that I could be him, but I"m only a clone
Well done, Drums.
I have no problem with Bonner, as long as we are not asking him to do things he can’t do. - quincyscott
DrumsinTheDeep
whenever i am don I can always count on this site to make me laugh or at least smile. This made me almost choke on my drink i was laughing so hard! LOL.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jul 11, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I mean down
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by gunnin' gervin on Jul 11, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Tony Parker should make this his next single. You got rhymes, Drums. I’ll give you that.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 11, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I kept waiting for him to go with “foam” as a slant rhyme, but he never needed to.
Shame.
I have no problem with Bonner, as long as we are not asking him to do things he can’t do. - quincyscott
I made a music video for this as a project my senior year, and it was without a doubt the weirdest thing that’s ever happened in the UTA activity center.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 12, 2010 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions
All of the ladies admire my tone / I got a huge bed made of memory foam.
See, it’s never-ending.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 12, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Having AlonzoGee as well. Hairston is forced to work on his game because Gee is likely going to make him up his game.
I feel that until Hairston learns how to shoot, he’s always gonna be competing against players to get the final spot. Last year it was Marcus Williams, and in a way he also competed against Bogans. This year it’s a pure scorer in Gee. Hopefully he makes that corner three his home this summer.
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by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions
And yet, both sort of lost to Hairston. The Spurs don’t want him in Summer League, so he’s definitely earn a notch on his built from the Spurs trust. He’s also been in at key defensive moments, so he’s gaining trust.
I agree, each side (hairston and the FO) is constantly giving each other a little more to show their appreciation. I guess I just want some instant gratification from one of the sides, either with Pop giving Hairston rotation minutes, or Hairston learning to shoot (he’s good enough at the other stuff), but I know that’s not how stuff works (cool website btw) and at least it’s progress we continue to see.
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by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 2:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully Hairston was stuck shooting with Chip or just in a gym shooting over and over again. That’ll go a long way. Exciting to be a Spurs fan.
Where Gee loses out is that he is younger and he still can play with the Toros for one more year. Although he did a good job with the Wiz when he was called up.
OT: thanks. Which website? :)
oh hehe, I mentioned how stuff works, howstuffworks.com it’s a website I used to visit when I was young, wanted to learn and had ambition.
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by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 3:12 AM CDT up reply actions
I’ll drink to that. I’m particularly excited about Anderson. I heard at least one analyst say that we might have scored a starter in Anderson.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
If he can pick up the system quick and contribute, he’s in the one position that has some flexibility.
2 of manu, hill, and parker need to start the game….i prefer parker and hill personally but no combination is a wrong one to me
Yea, I didn’t consider you had Hill in mind to start when you said Anderson can come off the bench. Still though, Hill is the only other thing resembling a backup point guard on the team. In addition, it seems Hill and Ginobili play well together, hence my suggestion for Parker and Anderson to start…
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
Hill certainly does seem like our best fit at back up point, unless you want Manu to play there. I think the reason Hill starts next to Tony is his stellar defense against staring guards. I think if we are able to get a bigger defensive stopper, who can adequately guard the opposing team’s best perimeter player, then George may not have to start. Either way he should get starter’s minutes.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
his stellar defense against staring guards
Please. We cannot write “George Hill” and “stellar defense” in the same sentence until he redeems himself in the future playoffs. His “stellar defense” was the biggest single reason for our embarrassing exit this season.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
Well we talk about Bonner and his three point shooting don’t we?
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
Bonner shot 37% from the arc in the playoffs, which is at least respectable. George’s D was a different story.
by doggydogworld on Jul 11, 2010 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I think that was the geek’s point.
I have no problem with Bonner, as long as we are not asking him to do things he can’t do. - quincyscott
I think that wasn’t. I think, he wanted to blame Bonner for our 2nd round fiasco. I support DDW’s argument. Bonner didn’t help us much against the Suns (who did?) but he didn’t hurt us much as well. George raised our expectations with his stellar play against Dallas. Then he failed these expectations with his atrocious play in the 2nd.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
George raised our expectations
No, he didn’t. He played his best and experienced success against Dallas. Then he ran into his very own matchup nightmare in the 2nd round. He’s a second year player, and if we thought he’d be more, that’s on us, not him.
I have no problem with Bonner, as long as we are not asking him to do things he can’t do. - quincyscott
C’mon, JRW, we are just fans. George plays well whole season as a starter, then plays like a star against Dallas, of course, we want more and we think he is able to do more. It’s not like we expected Mason to do anything useful for us in the playoffs. But George lured us into the thinking that he became a good player in his 2nd year. I don’t blame us for thinking he could be better than Goran Dragic. Then he completely disappointed us in the 2nd round. Cruel.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
We just have different perspectives on this point, and I guess it’s just a toe-MAY-toe/ta-MAH-toe kind of thing.
You say, “George lured us” and “he completely disappointed” and I say that all Hill did was play the best basketball he could, and how we responded is on us. What’s that phrase investment companies always have to use? “Past results are no indication of future returns.”
It’s not like he went all RJ on us (sorry, Rage, you’ll kick tail this year, right?) while standing around, effectively disappearing. No. The effort was there, but the results weren’t. That’s the NBA life of a young player.
Of course I’d prefer that Cubits learn everything necessary to be an NBA star from the confines of the Spurs’ film room, but failing that, I’ll count myself lucky that he took his lumps in a series S.A. didn’t even come close to winning. This way he’ll come back a better, more experienced contributor without having been the reason we lost – as he might have been had the Phx series been closer.
Now, would you prefer to be the MAY or the MAH?
I have no problem with Bonner, as long as we are not asking him to do things he can’t do. - quincyscott
I see your point. I guess, I was an overly ecstatic over George’s play and got burned. Now I am more like “let’s wait and see” about his play. This is an important season for him. Can he become the next Rondo? Will he become the next Mason?
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
you think george defends starting guards well, you should see him against no-staring guards, like uhh… Nash in the playoffs.
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by the little o on Jul 11, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
He has some issues with guards like Lowry and also against teams that use the P&R. He got owned by Nash in that series and to add to the pain, he reached far too much getting him in foul trouble. Due to that, Mason Jr. saw time. Meh…
I mean to say staring guards but my fingers wouldn’t let me the first time. then they did the second. then I made a joke about nash’s covered eye in the playoffs.
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by the little o on Jul 11, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
meant*
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 11, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly, I’m not sure which is best. I think Hill will start just because he’ll have the most familiarity at the beginning of the season. Hill plays well with both Tony and Manu so it doesn’t matter too much.
And then there’s Temple who is another PG. Honestly, I’d say he’s a better PG than Hill if you are talking about the passing aspect.
I think Manu and Tony are going to love being able to kick out to Anderson and vice-versa, crooked pinkies and all.
Probably the reason he fell in the draft. I wonder if the team will try to medically straiten those pinkies. Unlikely since he has been used to it for so long.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
For some reason I original read that as pickles, which makes no sense in context with anything that is in this thread.
James trying to shoot with medically straightened pinkies would be like Ray Allen trying to shoot with bent ones.
Pinky is more important for ball control (dribbling, rebounding, etc.) than shooting. He’s got a real disadvantage there.
by doggydogworld on Jul 11, 2010 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn’t know his pinkies were like that. I have crooked pinkies as well. He probably has what’s called “clinodactyly,” and it’s some sort of genetic anomaly. It doesn’t help with anything, but the only problem I have with it is that it makes learning to play guitar more frustrating.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 11, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I have the same genetic anomaly too, but what Mr. Anderson has goes waaaaaay beyond, MeM.
I have no problem with Bonner, as long as we are not asking him to do things he can’t do. - quincyscott
You are correct, jrw. His pinkies were actually broken when he was born and I guess they were never reset properly. Just like DeJuan plays fine without his ACLs, Anderson has never played with “normal” pinkies, so why start now?
Hmm. I wonder if his pinkies have anything to do with his low assist average . ( 1.3 per game, I believe)
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
No, that was due mostly to the inability of the rest of the team to actually shoot. Chuckers-R-Us is probably the best way to describe the OSU offense this year, much to my chagrin.
However, I doubt he’ll be a big assist guy in the Spurs system either, as I guess Pop will tell him to just shoot the ball.
Wow
is his pinkies always bent in? When i first seen this pic i just thought that was the way he shoots. Very interesting
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by gunnin' gervin on Jul 11, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Shooter and crafty scorer… runs offense for himself… decisive screen and roll guy despite weak dribbling… James Anderson sounds like everything that 2008 Roger Mason was, and 2009 Roger Mason was not. At the very least he’ll soak up some minutes for cheap and have a chance to show us more.
But Mason could barely dribble and make something for himself unless it was a jump shot after 2 dribbles.
Yes, please don’t compare Anderson to Mason. You’ll make me cranky, and then I’ll be forced to write a 5,000 word FanPost on why Anderson is better, and no one wants to read that. :) Although I guess I should warn all of PtR now – I WILL be Big Game James biggest supporter and I will NOT be rational when discussing him this next year.
Uh, that nick-name sounds vaguely familiar…?
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
Yes, I know it was originally Worthy’s, but at least it fits Anderson better than a baseball pitcher. Don’t worry – we’ll have a PtR nickname(s) before you know it (“Mr.” is the current leader), and I won’t have to denigrate the memory of your beloved Laker any longer. ;)
OK but you know the real big game james is watching
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
And there’s no chance of his missing anything as long as he keeps those goggles on.
I have no problem with Bonner, as long as we are not asking him to do things he can’t do. - quincyscott
Dude, I like Worthy better than any current Laker and I think I might even like him better than Magic. (OK maybe not ’cause without Magic there is no “Showtime” Lakers. Just be careful what you say about Worthy.)
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
olf, you have no idea what you’re stepping into here.
I could go into a ton of detail about this, but suffice to say that Worthy IS my all-time favorite Laker. I wasn’t a huge fan of those goggles, true, but that’s just aesthetics. His game was made of win, he was an excpetional teammate, and he could be counted on to raise the level of his play when it mattered most.
I have no problem with Bonner, as long as we are not asking him to do things he can’t do. - quincyscott
I was kicked off my highschool basketball team for not being an excpetional teammate.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 11, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
You
know who had nice goggles? Horace Grant. I really like the ones he had when he was on Orlando’s team
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by gunnin' gervin on Jul 11, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Although I think I’d like to read that. So do I have to start posting that Mason is the greatest to get you to post that?
Did I mention how much I love Anderson and how he is rapidly becoming my fav spur ever? (despite never having seen him play a game). And can I get you some coffee Cap?
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
I’ve already had two cups this morning, but thanks for the offer, swgeek. I expect Anderson to get criticized this year (as do all the Spurs), just like I expect him to have some really rough games. I’m just asking fellow PtRers not to get offended if I become slightly irrational this upcoming season.
here’s to hoping we get Bogans for vet minimum. I’d be okay with a little extra defense (he played pretty good in the last Lakers game and the playoffs) and I never really hated the Bogeyman.
I say get Bogans if we can’t get Wright or Jones or Matthews
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
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Of those three, it’s down to Jones. Hopefully he’ll be willing to go for the LLE, since he made over $4 mil last season.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 11, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
You also have Rasual Butler as another bigger 3.
Miami wants to offer Jones the min from what I read.
Actually, it would be nice to get Rasual Butler. He seems to be a kind of guy who we may use, and who could thrive in the Pop’s system. Any idea, how much he would cost?
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
He made approximately $ 4M last season.
If you liked it, then you shoulda put a fifth ring on it.
by day_late_friend on Jul 11, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably out of our price range then?
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
The way money’s getting thrown around this offseason, he’ll probably get the full MLE from some team.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
I really want to watch Splitter play and succeed on the Spurs, even as a non-Spurs fan ;-)
He’s definitely not the typical “soft” international center. He never shoots threes. He mixes it up inside. And going by the numbers he put up in the ACB he’s at least as talented as Scola, only 7 feet tall. Good that he finally comes over.
I like you already, Nork.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 10, 2010 4:32 AM CDT up reply actions
korver signed for 3 year 15 mill with the bulls. seriously are we offering anyone anything, dont get me wrong I know how important it is to lock up Bonner but come on.
he just signed with the bulls for 3 years at 15 million. We only have the LLE which is like 3 million, and minimum contracts which are around 1 million. Don’t think we could’ve gotten him. Maybe if Pop feels like getting a shovel and digging up Horry for a sign and trade, but i’m still not sure the details of how we can do that or even if we can.
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by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions
BAE is somewhere in the neighborhood of $2.0 – 2.2 million. So, depending on how much we’re giving Splitter, that’s going to be the biggest contract we can offer to anyone else this summer.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
For the LLE, Spurs can score bigger with a guy like Dorrell Wright or James Jones or Rasual Butler.Guys who play D and can shoot. Butler is the weakest link of the 3.
but still even Butler wouldn’t be a bad move on our part. really just adding anyone to the 3 is an improvement.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
i think miami is talking to everyone this offseason…..prior to bosh and james, they had like 3 players under contract and now they have traded one of those players for a future draft pick….they might need Spoelestra to be a player/coach if they can pay him just as a coach and still count him towards the 13 roster spots
Don’t count on him being the next Bill Russell.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 11, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, they need shooters, and they should be hoping to have at least 4 wing players. It makes sense. I think they’ll probably retain Jones(unless they can get Bell), and let Wright walk.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
im kind of thinking that there is going to be an interesting detail to one of these contracts that was delaying news since all three broke within hours of each other
Or another detail just to throw some surprise into it. Surely they won’t go on without using the LLE, especially if they haven’t even hit the luxury tax.
Spurs always use their exceptions on someone. here’s to hoping for Wright or Matthews
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
I read somewhere the Spurs have never used the LLE. We thought they used it on Haislip, but it was not so.
by doggydogworld on Jul 10, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Bonner No trade clause, ftw. :)
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by SpursfanSteve on Jul 10, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
The Bonner news was broken almost a day before anyone in Spursdom caught on to it, because it was broken by a local newspaper in New Hampshire.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
The Junction City Gazette probably has news of the James Anderson – Shane Battier trade, but no one here reads it so we’ll be in for a shock when training camp opens.
by doggydogworld on Jul 10, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
lbj and bosh did a sign and trade and will get 14.5 next year D wade will get 14 mill. they took less to have cap space.
Wha… they have cap space? FFFFFFUUUUUUU
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
If Miller really gets 5/30 they should have another 5-6m to sign Haslem and/or a point guard, a center, backups for the Huge 3, etc.
by doggydogworld on Jul 10, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
And Chicago won the shooter battle by getting Korver by getting him for 15M for the next 3 years. 5 years is a steep price for Miller.
it is, but miller does more things, like pass, and think a little more.
plus he’s taller.
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by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 2:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Miller is a better rebounder/tougher guy. But Miller is also more injury prone. It looks like they scored Reddick too. Two shooters vs. one. Who knows. Chicago does look like they will have a good balanced team and Rose is only going to get better. Although they really could have used Wade or LBJ to push them above.
yeah, they would be on top with one of those guys. I still think the Magic might match the offer though, they won’t let go of reddick so easily seeing as to how he was their best scoring wing in the playoffs. Hah, poor carter.
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by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 3:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Hedo/Courtney Alexander > Carter for Magic. Nelson is a scoring guard and Hedo was like their Manu who made things move and was their go to guy.
just read that the Mavs are in talks with the T’wolves on trading dampier for Al jefferson. hope that doesnt happen
damn cuban, he’s relentless, I’ll give him that.
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by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions
cuban’s just jealous. I just don’t know if he’s jealous of Mickey Arison, or Lebron.
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by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions
damn cuban, he’s relentless
Yeah, but this ain’t a fantasy league. Once in a blue moon new players gel immediately but most of the time a constantly changing lineup is a distraction.
by doggydogworld on Jul 10, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep, but it’s good for the Spurs that he’s there for Tony or George to continually abuse on offense.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 10, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Bingo. The Spurs make minor adjustments here or there, but they recognize that stability over several seasons improves a team. Most NBA franchises give up on their core too quickly, in my opinion. And this is one reason I think fans should have more patience with Jefferson. These things take a little time, and I’ll bet that Jefferson can be a big part of a successful Spurs effort this coming season.
He’s just GOT to be in the spotlight, somehow.
by titansfan4ever on Jul 10, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Not a big deal, just put Splitter on Jefferson and Dyess on Dirk, Mavs are just playing into the new Spurs matchups. if they got Jefferson BEFORE we ever got Splitter, I’d be more worried. Plus don’t we usually dominate Jefferson when we play T’ Wolves?
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
Big Al is overrated, TBH. And having him and Dirk on the floor together would just be a terrible defensive lineup. I hope he does it.
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by Tim C. on Jul 10, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This doesn’t make the Mavs any better imo, it just makes them more talented. Jefferson needs about 20 touches in the post to be effective and his defense leaves a lot to be desired. Go ahead Mark, get it done.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Big Al looks like a big upgrade over their last year centers. He used to be an all-star caliber player.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
would you rather have Dice start so Blair and Splitter play with Manu or should Splitter start from the first game? our rotation is going to be sick…i don’t envy Pop but I don’t think he has many bad options
My originial plan would be to start Splitter alongside Duncan, mostly because we’ll eventually have to match up better against the size of all the contenders. However, a lot depends on Splitter’s game, Blair’s development, Dice’s decomposition, and of course, Mr. Tim Knesss.
I don’t think we should give Dice anymore than 15-20 minutes a game. I also haven’t seen Pop trusting the idea of Duncan playing alongside a true center like Splitter (Pop did start blair and td for a few games but he did that out of necessity or maybe tinkering). Will Splitter be able to hit the midrange shot? TD can, but is he mobile enough to dust off his PF knee braces? In defense, who will TD guard if one oppponent is a mobile big (odom) and the other is a big post presense (bynum)? As far as Blair, did he improve his midrange shot throughout the offseason to legitimately play the PF position?
Lots of questions, but not necessarily a bad situation if one finds a good combination to use, and I trust Pop with that more than any other coach. The one thing we know for sure however, is that Bon Bon will choke in the post-season, so we can count on that at least.
I also think Pop should not play TD or Dice until two months into the season. Those old farts. So have a three big line-up of Splitter, Blair, and Bonner.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions
It’s hard to find PFs in teams that Duncan is able to guard at this point in his career (Gasol, Garnett, and maybe Bosh come to mind, but that’s it). He’ll have to wear his body banging down low with the big boys, and this worries me, since it will only be worse for him.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Duncan’s perimeter defense might be better if he knows he has a big guy like Splitter behind him defending the paint.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Bonner’s perimeter defense will improve too. He’ll probably become our best defender against perimeter-oriented bigs like Dirk
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
RJ’s D also improved over the season. He had one game where Pop put him against Dirk and he played him solid.
Although with respect to Dirk specifically, you really can’t beat the job Dice did on him.
Start Splitter. Blair and Dice works well because Dice is perimeter oriented scorer while Blair likes to stay inside (as of now). Also, Blair will get to play more with Manu since he’ll probably anchor the bench. Honestly if Anderson can get into the starting lineup, a back court of Hill/Manu and a front court of Dyess/Blair is pretty solid. The 3 has many options.
Then of course you have all the other swings the Spurs have.
The 3 has many options.
RJ, Princess Peanut, TINY ears
Yes, I guess we have a lot of options at the 3.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 2:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Well in the Spurs system, the wings are interchangeable in a lot of their styles. I’d still hope Spurs can find another big 3. However, guys like Temple/Hairston/Gee/Anderson all are long enough to play a 3 off the bench when the subs are in.
I know, just messing around. I’d be okay with Hairston starting, or Anderson starting, but not both at the same time.
Do you think RJ should start or come off the bench with Manu?
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 3:15 AM CDT up reply actions
If Spurs score like a Wright or James Jones, I think they could. Honestly, that would fit the team best since both are solid shooters and defensive minded players.
Assuming Spurs get one of those guys with LLE and Anderson shows up well in training camp and preseason, I’d probably roll with:
Splitter/Duncan/(Wright/Jones)/Anderson/Parker
Dyess/Blair/RJ/Manu/Hill
And key spot minutes to Bonner (to keep Duncan and Dyess’ minutes low throughout the season). And somehow Temple fits, because he gives a lot to the team.
Assuming they don’t get their man with the LLE, and Hairston/Gee probably are battling for that spot. A lot will depend on how they mold RJ to fit into the system in year 2. I’m sure Pop is focusing on some key things this summer so far.
With all the talent, I do think as deep as they are, Duncan, Dyess, Manu and Parker will see reduced minutes and nights off. Maybe not Parker since he’s younger.
I agree, I think we should give Duncan and Manu around 27 minutes a game. Dice should have around 17. Parker could be given 33
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 3:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Forgot, the most obvious lineup for the beginning of the season might be Parker/Hill.
Although don’t sleep on Temple as the guy who lines up with Parker either due to his length and his versatility. That allows Parker to still slide, but you get a better PG than Hill currently is.
If Pop could limit Parker to 30, I think that’ll pay dividends, especially since he falls like Manu a lot.
So many options, my head hurts! ha but it’s a happy hurting.
ha but it’s a happy hurting.
TWSS
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 10, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m glad with the RJ and the TS news,the Bonner news…IDK what should I feel or should I write what I feel since I’m implying it.Anyhow,good moves.But I would love if we can sign Morrow or a big man,but I prefer Morrow though.Since we have little chance of getting Morrow and a big man.But I hope with RJ’s contract(which is hopefully around 7 or 5 mill than 15.) we can sign Morrow and a big man.
Champion of Me. All about ‘Bron and all about nothing.
Morrow is signing with NJ.
Wesley Matthews would be a solid pick up if you wanted a 2ish guy. However, with the LLE, the Spurs FO should chase big forwards like Dorell Wright, James Jones and Rasual Butler who shoot the 3 and play D.
Bonner is good for a multiple reasons even if a lot aren’t directly related to his play in the post season.
RJ’s contract won’t be 5m. I doubt he would have opted out without a backstop offer that didn’t make him look like a fool. I still say around 4/35, crafted to avoid lux tax. None of these Bird guys like RJ and Bonner have anything to do with signing a free agent. We’ve got the LLE and obscure Horry sign/trade possibilities. And the Horry thing is more like mid-season when teams want to dump salary.
by doggydogworld on Jul 10, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions
LeBron’s jersey was burnt by Cav’s fans when he left,so is anyone out there going to burn Bonner’s jersey since his coming back?!Very ironic huh.
Champion of Me. All about ‘Bron and all about nothing.
My girlfriend. Well, I should specify, it’s a Bonner jersey t-shirt.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 10, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
i’ve legitimately always wanted one. So far, I’ve settled for Timmy and Blair, but damnit, i want Ginger!
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Jul 10, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, he can shoot the 3…and give Tim a chance to rest a few minutes…other than that, unless he grows a pair and becomes a “mean” defender in the paint, I wouldn’t count on him to do too much more.
by titansfan4ever on Jul 10, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Bro’s this news of Splitter give’s me something to look forward to when i get stateside. Im kind of mad we re-signed Bonner, I dont think we are built to go deep in the playoffs. We still need a couple more pieces, Splitter isnt enough, we dont even know if he’s going to dominate like he did in the Euroleague and he didnt even average 20 points.
But im still elated we have him bro. If only he had enough class to have a 1Hour special on Sportscenter ;-(
Or Maybe Richard jefferson should do that when he re-signs, ;-)
Suns Fans check their closets for Manu Ginobili Bro.
Screw ESPN…bro…he needs to do it on ABC or CBS or NBC bro!!
by titansfan4ever on Jul 10, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Screw a One Hour Special we should have a Tiago Splitter Day
Suns Fans check their closets for Manu Ginobili Bro.
by SpursNumberUno on Jul 10, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
we should do a Month!
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jul 11, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you guys realize just how amazing this team is going to be next year? I mean think about this, our second unit could beat a lot of first units in the NBA. I’d wager they could beat about 80% of them.
Second Unit:
C: Dyess/Splitter if Pop wants him to play with Manu
PF: Blair
SF: possibly Wright or Jones/one of Hairston/Gee
SG: Manu
PG: Hill
Dyess can still hit his mid-range shot and even if he can’t he still has his great defense. Blair might be a better shooter this year, even if not he can still do his dunks and layups with Dyess spreading things around.
Jones and/or Wright bring good defense and solid 3 shooting though I’d rather see jefferson in this second unit if Jones or Wright comes to town. Gee and Hairston bring much of the same but just less 3-point shooting.
And the guards with Manu and Hill are solid defenders, both are good slashers (Manu being great) and both shoot the 3 well enough. Throw in Manu’s dynamic passing and fake drives to the lane to set up shooters and Hill’s mid-range and we find this bench to be amazing.
Plus we see guest appearances by Temple’s 3-pointers and Bonner’s…….red hair?
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
our second unit could beat a lot of first units in the NBA
Lots of people said that last year. It ended up being a problem as there weren’t enough minutes to keep guys like Finley, Haislip, Ratliff and RMJ happy.
by doggydogworld on Jul 10, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, but people overrated some of the players. And age caught up with Finley.
We’ve seen Temple play for the Spurs. Hairston has played for the Spurs. Gee has played for the Wiz from the young guys. Wright (if Spurs got him) is better than all the guys you listed above.
indeed, this is a younger and fresher bench (plus without RMJ we see some more consistency)
The bench kinda got ruined after Tony was injured because then the bench lost all its firepower (other than Blair) when Hill and Ginobili were made starters to compensate for lack of Tony’s skill set (Manu’s passing and slashing and Hill’s shooting replaced those lost from Parker) and thus bench became weakened with Bogans and Mason.
Now even if parker gets injured, Temple can replace Hill on the bench and we still find ourselves with a decent 3-point shooter and passer at the point.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
Possibly, but since Anderson is a better shooter, if he’s on matchup wise, he probably fits better in the starting lineup.
i don’t know how you can say that as Hill has improved greatly since college, manu is clutch, and the nba 3 is farther back.
Dejuan BLAAAIIIIIIRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!
Great News, but...
I know Splitter has said he wants to come to the NBA, interpit Spurs, this year, but doesn’t Caja Laboral have him to a conditional contract for the upcoming season and will the Spurs have to work out a deal with that club, in addition to signing TS to a contract? I’m sure RC has got it all figured out, but…. The Spurs needed a bonifide center in the worst way. TD has always said he is really a power forwrd, but because SA has been without a true center he has had to fill the position. Splitter is a true post up center and at 7 foot has shown he is the best in Europe. Hope that translates well to the NBA. The addition of a shooter like Anderson and the new young guns, Temple and Gee gives me hope the the Spurs will be more than competitive this season. Jefferson will probably resign because there hasn’t been a lot of interest shown around the league for him. If the Nets and Knicks aren’t interested his best bet would to return to the Spurs. He really should be working on his perimeter shot in the off season. He stunk up the joint with poor jump shooting in the playoffs. He should spend many hours with Chip. If Blair develops and outside game he could be a pretty good power forward, but he is totally undersized to attempt to guard the big 5s in the NBA. He flat out gets used by the likes of Gasol, Bynum and a host of others. He needs to improve his defense on three and fours who can post him up or drive around him But I think he has the desire to improve in all of these areas. If he does the Spurs won’t have to give TD such big minutes. The new roster looks pretty good with only the 15 spot available for a 3/4 player like Gist or a like FA talent. How quickly the new players learn the system will be pretty interesting. Remember Pop is getting older too and patience is not an old man’s virtue.
Blair has the ability to be a good post defender. Chuck Hayes is shorter, slower, and smaller than Blair is and he is a terrific post defender so I think, with work, Blair can be good as well.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
They’re basically the same height, but I’ll go with slower & smaller. It would be great to see DeJuan turn his defense up a few notches for sure.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 11, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Amundson might be leaving Phoenix and going to Denver. Good move for the Nuggies and makes Phoenix weaker.
If Fisher signs with Miami (which I don’t think will actually happen), I think we have improved (on paper) more than any other West team.
by CapHill on Jul 10, 2010 12:45 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Fisher is only good for 2 or 3 games in the playoffs, important yes but Blake is a big upgrade in my opinion.
"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"
An upgrade in terms of talent maybe but I don’t think the Lakers win without Fisher.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
I despise Derek Fisher, but he is a winner. When Fisher is 45 years old, he could still be trotted in to take a flop or bury a three pointer. Blake does not strike fear in anyone’s heart.
by quincyscott on Jul 11, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I’d rather the Lakers have Blake than Fisher. Fisher is money in the playoffs and he plays such mean defense. He always wacks the hell out of someone.
"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo
He’s allowed to get away with more than anyone his age and slow of footness is permitted. Plus his flops get the other team in foul trouble. I’ll happily put Blake there over him.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I hate Derek Fisher. It does not matter where he plays, I will always hate him.
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
Always have. As a player, anyway. He’s a human being with a family, or so I’ve heard. But I have always hated him as a player. (Then again, I think I felt that way about Robert Horry until he became a Spur. Perhaps I lack objectivity about such things…)
by quincyscott on Jul 11, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Save for the “savvy veteran knowledge” and being Kobe’s only friend on the team, what Fisher brings can be replaced. Blake can shoot and probably defend quick guards just a little better than Fisher, who can’t defend them at all. You all know the Lakers wished Farmar could do what Fisher did, except Farmar is an idiot.
they need Fish to win in the playoffs but they will be better off if Blake takes more minutes in a regular season
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
A lot of those Lakers are very talented pussies. Odom and Gasol are prime examples. Artest is a very talented lunatic. The tough sons-of-bitches on that team are Kobe and Fisher. If I am Lakers front office, I do not let go of Fisher.
by quincyscott on Jul 11, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Um you forgot to mention that they are also back-to-back NBA champions – again. :)
You mentioned Artest as a “very talented lunatic” but I actually thought he kept the Celtics from getting “too physical”. He wrestled Pierce to the ground in the 1st minute of game 1. And when Rondo (that piece of S. ’member when he pulled Heinrich into the scorers table last year?) “somehow caught an elbow” after he started pushing people around. That put an end to the bulsh.
Anyway, I sure hope Fish comes back.
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
No need to state the obvious. But there were a couple of games along the way this past season where it really took the leadership of Fisher and Bryant to steady the ship for them. Two of those series went seven games, and the Celtics series was quite losable. For all their talent, they needed a few players with cajones to win a title. Fisher has three iron nuts, I think.
Plus if they keep him, the Spurs will have a chance to make he and Kobe cry again!
Two of those series went seven games
Uh, only the Finals went to seven games. (Unless you’re including the Atl v Mil series or last year’s LAL v Hou series for some reason.)
Plus if they keep him, the Spurs will have a chance to make he and Kobe cry again!
Or maybe he has another 0.4 seconds to make the Spurs cry again! That does sound fun.
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
0.4 is so ’04. Now only 0-4 can make us cry.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
My mistake. I was thinking the Thunder went 7.
Are you on the wrong blog or something? Awful lot of LA love. And anyway, Spurs don’t cry when they lose. They take it like men.
I’d rather be skeptical and let the Spurs to prove me wrong than being over-optimistic and then bitterly disappointed like last season. Smart money are on the Lakers this season. If the Spurs prove to be better, so much more will be my joy.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
Gasol toughened up a lot. I wouldn’t call Odom a pussy, he is my favorite Laker, and he creates a lot of match up problems for other team, though he is not very consistent. I totally agree that the Lakers would be crazy to let Fish walk, and I don’t think it’s gonna happen. But Blake can play, and I expect him to be useful for them. He is clearly an upgrade over Farmar IMO, and he should take more minutes from Fish as Fish ages.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
It’s not like he has a tough competition really. I also liked Farmar for his ears, and I used to like Cobe Karl. All right, who is your favorite Laker?
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
No, seriously, if I had to pick a current Laker, it would probably be Bynum. I don’t get all tingly watching him play. But I don’t want to hurl, either.
Sorry, I don’t like Bynum at all. His style of play is ugly. Lamar Kardashian is much more interesting as a player.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
Meh. Bynum plays hard. I respect the way he has pushed through a lot of the crap he took as a younger player, and he has improved. Odom is a pancake.
Again, I’m not collecting Bynum bubble gum cards or anything. I was asked to name my favorite Laker. This is kind of like naming my favorite stress position. Favorite Jerry Lewis movie. Favorite RATT song…
I know, thought about it for a second or two…nope can’t think of a single one currently on the team.
A couple I liked after they left (Magic and Horry)or before they became a Laker. Artest is certified nuts, can’t dislike him.
There are some I dislike more than the rest like Kobe and Sasha, didn’t care for what Fisher did to Scola?, think it was him. Agree with Kondor that Bynum comes across as a bully. I guess it’s that they act so entitled JUST because they are a Laker, develop a swagger that is uncool. Let your play speak for itself. I do realize that they can’t all be like Manu or Tim, even some of our players could learn a thing or two from these guys.
Timmy D .... enough said.
This is news worth signing on for. I can’t wait to see Splitter sign his name on the dotted line and our team quietly (keep talking about James over at espn) improve over the past couple of seasons while the West gets weaker in some other cities.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I think you are right, certainly about the Suns and Jazz. The Lakers are of course still very good, and the Rockets, Blazers and especially the Thunder concern me.
by quincyscott on Jul 11, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Just put up a fanpost for all your bench versus starters enjoyment
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
When did the NBA become the WWE?
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 10, 2010 7:06 PM CDT reply actions
Detroit, 2007 i believe.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Jul 11, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m really dismayed at the news that Bonner was resigned, for 4 more years no less.
I don’t know what the hell the FO is thinking about. His deficiencies (too numerous to
mention) far outweigh any benefits. His game is very much like Scalabrine, whom
Boston wisely rarely plays, or Danny Ferry, who was on our 2003 Championship team
and who also only played in garbage time, for the most part. Bonner is strictly a
garbage-time player who should only be used on an emergency basis, if then.
You know, I would not have such an aversion to Bonner if he had alot more lift on his set three point shot (Really the only shot he possesses). He gets very poor lift on his shot, and as a result, cannot get if off if anyone is within about 5 feet of him. ( Even despite his listed 6ft 10 inch stature)
That, and he’s a poor defender. I agree, the FO overpaid him at 3 million a year, but I’m sure they probably put on a search for someone who could do a better job. Unfortunately they came up with nothing…
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
His game is very much like Scalabrine,
In the last game we played against Boston (in Boston), Matty didn’t only completely outplayed Scalabrine, he also basically outplayed Garnett. You may consider this a fluke, but after that game I don’t think it’s fair to compare Bonner to Scalabrine. Also, he drew an interest from at least 4 other NBA teams, so it’s not like he is totally unwanted. I always feel that SA fans consistently underappreciate Red Rocket.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
I always feel that SA fans consistently underappreciate Red Rocket.
First, this is completely true.
Second, I changed my sig yesterday in order to do something about this very issue.
I have no problem with Bonner, as long as we are not asking him to do things he can’t do. - quincyscott
Bonner gained several million, non-refundable points in my book when he named his charity section at the AT&T Center “Matt Bonner’s Wicked Awesome Section.” We should never forget that.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 12, 2010 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions
I think we can all agree that Matt Bonner is not Robert Horry, and that Keith Bogans is not Bruce Bowen. Right? Okay, we got that settled.
If the Spurs have to rely on Bonner to win games, they are up a creek. If they have to rely on him to defend the other team’s starting 4 or 5, then the Spurs are likewise screwed. This really goes without saying, but I just said it anyway. However, if he can chip in some threes with the second unit, he can be a valuable asset. To me, it’s not so much about Bonner as it is about what production we get from Splitter, Blair, McDyess and Jefferson. And I think another factor is just how good a shooter Anderson will be. If these guys can render the points we used to need from Bonner somewhat less important, it will be good for Bonner and it will be good for the Spurs.
Stating really obvious things is a strength of mine. I’ll let you readers decide if these comments are more Socrates, Yogi Berra, or Chauncey Gardener.
Look here, Socrates “Yogi” Gardener, sometimes it pays to state the obvious.
Matt Bonner is not Robert Horry, and that Keith Bogans is not Bruce Bowen.
In this case, it has helped me realize that I don’t think the Spurs can win this year unless they add one more defender. I wanted one more signed all along, but now I feel that it’s critical.
I have no problem with Bonner, as long as we are not asking him to do things he can’t do. - quincyscott
The Lakers keep their team intact, and Miami just stocked three all-stars together including the league’s MVP. I don’t think the Spurs can win this year whether they add a defender or not. Barring a miracle, their ceiling is the WCF.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
You may be right. But I’d like to say the glass is half full for the time being.
As far as Miami is concerned, it remains to be seen whether they can put a complete team around James Wade and Co (snicker) and gel in a single year.
As for the west and L.A. … well, anything can happen. Maybe Mr. Anderson turns into the 2nd coming of Glen Rice, only with some defense thrown in. Maybe Blair morphs into Charles Barkley circa ‘93. Maybe … I don’t know. It’s possible that harboring thoughts of a championship is completely unrealistic, but it’s the off-season.
I’m gonna be optimistic for a while longer.
I have no problem with Bonner, as long as we are not asking him to do things he can’t do. - quincyscott
Maybe Mr. Anderson turns into the 2nd coming of Glen Rice, only with some defense thrown in.
Yes, sure, that’s why I said “barring a miracle”. You may agree that if our championship dreams are based on the play of a rookie drafted #20, this is not a very solid foundation. More likely, in April we will hear from Pop that “these playoffs are not for Mr.Anderson”. Or may be he, Hill, Blair and Tiago will all be first-team all-stars, and we’ll roll into the playoffs riding 20-games winning streak. It’s just such a long shot, you know.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
As far as Miami is concerned,
I don’t even worry about Miami at this point. If they get their act together, I’ll cheer for the Lakers against them. If not, I’ll cheer for Boston/Orlando/Chicago against the Lakers. None of these teams are our competition. as far as I am concerned. We’ll likely to compete with Dallas, OKC and Portland for the place in the WCF. I think, going to the WCF should be considered a success for the oncoming season.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
I’m with the two of you, Bonner has his place and value. He just doesn’t have any grace about him. If he wasn’t shooting a 3 and didn’t kick out, I would moan and cover my face. Then be so amazed that he made a hook shot, just couldn’t believe it. I think the opposing team would start to drool thinking oh hell watch this, then react too slow. Or time stood still or who knows. Bonner and athletic don’t belong in the same paragraph much less the same sentence. Manu just holding the ball is more fun to watch, but I like Bonner and glad he is still a Spur.
Maybe none of this makes sense, spent time in the ER this evening and on heavy pain meds. Pain free for the first time in over two weeks, so if I have been itchy to any one, I apologize.
Timmy D .... enough said.
Stating really obvious things is a strength of mine.
Me too! I’m with you that if Bonner has limited minutes (< 15 mpg), he’s useful. Last year, he was relied upon to actually be a “big”, and that’s not his strength. I think the length of his contract is too long, but it’s not salary cap crippling.
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