Free Agency, Parte Tres: The Dominoes are Starting to Fall
by Tim C. on Jul 7, 2010 6:59 PM CDT
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PrintPer Marc Stein, the NBA's salary cap for the 2010-11 season has now officially been set by the NBA at just over $58 million, nearly $2 million higher than expected. A quick glance at ShamSports is enough to find out that the Spurs are nearly $4 million below that number without Richard Jefferson. What does this mean for the pursuit of free agents?
Absolutely nothing. But, it does mean that Peter Holt will most likely avoid paying the luxury tax during the upcoming season, since the tax line is actually being raised from $69.9M to $70.3M. Now that the numbers are known, the Spurs need to be making that offer to Tiago ASAP. With that in mind, the MLE is $5.7 million.
The other two free agency threads are over 400 comments each, so let's move the discussion here for the sake of avoiding big lag times.
Free Agency commitments so far:
Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh -> Miami Heat
Carlos Boozer -> Chicago Bulls
Amare Stoudemire -> New York Knicks
Dirk Nowitzki -> Dallas Mavericks
Lebron James -> Lebron James
And a bunch of smaller names that have signed all over the map.
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Also, someone needs to tell DeJuan Blair to get some better friends.
Just got done talkin wit my BIg BRoThEr Amare Im happy for him hopefully one day I get a deal like that hard work imma #grind till I get it!
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hate on me but I find nothing wrong with DeBeast striving to be one of the best players in the league. granted, a’m’are’’’ is not worth the money (in my opinion) that NY offered BUT for Beastly to want that? you know he’ll achieve his goal of becoming a max. deal calibur player or kill himself trying.
I’m pretty sure you’re correct about LeBron James going to LeBron James, but only if he can afford himself and push LeBrand on everyone. Mr. James, do we really need more sweatshops in the world to cater to your shameless self-promotion? creep.
I don’t think he’s going to the Knicks anymore. That city isn’t big enough to hold his ego.
Asked before the game how Parker has looked, Popovich said, "He’s still cute. "
Yes it is.Since its sports always fails.They might need his ego to keep the business in basketball going.Then still fail after 21 years.No offense.
Nate Robinson is one-eighth Filipino.How the hell that happen?His great granpa?Anyways its not really a big deal.Now back to your Spurs news.Antonio McDyess has a 42" Vertical Leap.
I didn’t get to say this in the other thread, so… welcome to PtR.
Anyway, I have no problem with DeJuan wanting to earn a contract like Amar’e got, but I just don’t want him hanging out with that me-first, no-defense-playing moron.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
Rumours of Shaq to Spurs....
Someone slap me in the face and wake me up I’m having a nightmare.
If we bring in Shaq wtf are we going to get minutes for Splitter/Blair?
"When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges."
source…..?
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 7, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
nevermind
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 7, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
shaq won’t want to play until the playoffs…dice could use 15-20 regular season minutes and blair is still going to be a sophomore…I think we have frontcourt minutes to spare if they are worth it…i don’t know if shaq is worth it though
I don’t want this. Watching the Suns/Spurs series, there wasn’t a moment where I thought the Spurs needed someone on the roster who would make them slower, less athletic and more plodding.
Asked before the game how Parker has looked, Popovich said, "He’s still cute. "
Well said, but that’s partly because we were trying to play their game. We lacked the inside presence to force them to play our game. Not saying Shaq is that inside presence. But could Channing Frye stop him?
by doggydogworld on Jul 8, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
So we’re 4 mil under the cap? Does this mean that we have no MLE or would we have to be the value of the MLE under the cap for that to happen?
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
We’d have to be under the cap by more than the MLE amount to lose it.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
Got you. So we have 4 mil to play with after using the MLE on Splitter? That’s not bad.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Actually, we get the MLE instead of that cap space. Sucks, I know.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
Can we also use the BAE (~$2 million) or are we too far below the cap now? Man, we need to resign or S&T RJ.
Yeah, I was really concerned about about that luxury tax bill showing up in my mailbox.
by doggydogworld on Jul 8, 2010 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions
it always amuses me watching summer league and seeing just how cheap and empty the gyms look…..
free malik hairston!
perth wildcats - 2009/2010 nbl champions baby!
by sleep research facility on Jul 7, 2010 8:14 PM CDT reply actions
I saw a lot of the guys we were hoping to get (Stanley Robinson, Damion James ect.) and most of them looked pretty….eh…James was solid though.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
only thing i’ve watched so far is the second half of the pacers/jazz game that just finished. lance stephenson has looked better than initial reports i heard.
free malik hairston!
perth wildcats - 2009/2010 nbl champions baby!
by sleep research facility on Jul 7, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
WojYahooNBA
Jermaine O’Neal is leaning toward signing with Boston, but still considering Denver, league sources tell Y! Decision will come soon.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
Damn
Boston is THE rest haven for geriatric ball players and the media has the nerve to try and say our team is old! The media is SO damn funny
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jul 7, 2010 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Some of the usual Celtics crap
Multiple sources saying that the Celtics and Ray Allen have agreed to a two-year deal for $10 million per season with the 2nd year a player option.
From Celticsblog. And OK to me the words Celtics and crap are synonymous. But I mean it as a complement.
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
Dang, and from the same place:
“I wouldn’t mind having him on our team, I can tell you that,” Rivers said of Kwame Brown. “He could help us.”
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
by olf on Jul 7, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn’t want this getting lost on DTOUR since I plan on relying on your opinions before making a fanshot.
Concerning the text… Version one or Version two?
Notes: I’m trying to smooth the silhouette of the players as best I can without losing too much of the player’s identity. The NBA logo is practically straight lines…
Manu’s silhouette is done. Blair’s and Duncan’s are mostly done. I just need to go back and smooth it out a bit. I plan on making one for Parker and RJ (if he resigns). I was going to make a coyote one but I can’t find a decent vertical pic.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 7, 2010 9:43 PM CDT reply actions
I like the second one, especially if it’s part of a series.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 7, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Each image will be a PNG file so the fine people on PtR can steal use them on whatever background they please.
Considering that, should I add a white border around the logo?
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 7, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
sweet. it is part of a series, no?
"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jul 7, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, spawned from a Manu logo I did for JA.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 7, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Check out that noise.
If you liked it, then you shoulda put a fifth ring on it.
by day_late_friend on Jul 7, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
This should be the default logo here at PtR
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Already recced, but if I may offer a bit of critique, it could use a dash of color. Maybe one of the colors from the old logo.
http://www.emptythebench.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Spurs-Previous.gif
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
Duncan’s better look like pure golden epicness or i will drown you in a cesspool of darkness and sunkist.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
Finding a decent picture (for the style I needed) of Duncan was actually difficult.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Bren posted this fanpost about RJ if anyone missed it…
not sure how credible it is, but it says 5 years for $45 million and starts at $7 so we could be under the luxury line
" Sources: LeBron leaning Towards Choosing Heat: http://bit.ly/c8tTKb "
Reported from Twitter account of Alan Hahn from Newsday.
"He has an innate ability of putting the damn ball in the hole." - Pop on Ginobili
Sorry you all. Link can be found here: http://twitter.com/alanhahn
"He has an innate ability of putting the damn ball in the hole." - Pop on Ginobili
His “camp” is sending out conflicting rumors to raise interest in the one-hour special.
by doggydogworld on Jul 8, 2010 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I still can’t understand how it will drag out for a whole hour. There better be a “meeting of the mimes” event, or something.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 8, 2010 2:36 AM CDT up reply actions
To be fair, I read that his decision will be made within the first 10 minutes of the special. But, to be not fair, he’s still an egomaniac.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 8, 2010 2:52 AM CDT up reply actions
The GMs will battle to the death.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 6:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I still want mimes. Mimes on ice.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 8, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it just me or when James opens his mouth all I can hear are those seagulls on ‘Finding Nemo’ … “mine? mineminemine?! Mine?!’ Miiiiine?”
"This team is like a bunch of cockroaches. They just don't die!" -Charles Barkley, after Game 7 vs. the NOOCH.
The "I'm gonna rip the eyes out of your head and piss into your dead skull! You f***ed with the wrong Marine!" face. Because Popovich can be kinda scary.
by Nixiack on Jul 8, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
GOL, that’s hilarious. I won’t be able to picture anything else now.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 8, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
God DeJuan,I know your dreaming of becoming like a multi-millionaire just like us but—-YOUR a SPUR and NOT A LEBRON-LEBRON.Your’e DeJuan Blair.Please D.You’ll get that.But with a vet team it is very unlikely,unless you’ll value money than love and loyalty given by SA.Please,stay humble.
Nate Robinson is one-eighth Filipino.How the hell that happen?His great granpa?Anyways its not really a big deal.Now back to your Spurs news.Antonio McDyess has a 42" Vertical Leap.
I feel like Blair is our Anakin Skywalker, who can easily be swayed by the dark side of the force (apostrophe and Mebron). He has a good heart now, but he has so much ambition and wants to one of the best. Yet, his knees and his height might cause him to have fear that he won’t be the best. Fear leads to hate, hate leads to anger, anger leads to suf-fer-ing…. I’m worried that Blair will follow the dark path later on.
While we’re at it, Duncan will be Qui-Gon Jinn because he’ll be gone soon. Ginobili is obviously Obi Wan Ginobili, because of his pure heart and wisdom. In fact, Ginobili doesn’t ever strive to be one of the best in the league, he only wants to be the best that he can possibly be. I would want Blair to adapt that mentality.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 8, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
are you saying Tony is Han and Eva is Leia? Is Bonner Chewbacca? Is Shaq Jabba? C3PO is one of the worst insults you can give someone so I wont do it to a Spur….Maybe RJ is R2D2…RJD24?
Is Tony Lando? Or is George Lando? I think George should be Lando.
by BlaseE on Jul 8, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This, more than other things, is why I was so bummed we didn’t make it to the WCF—because a Spurs-Lakers matchup was so ripe for the Star Wars analogies. Emperor Philpatine and Darth Kobe? I could write this in my sleep.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 8, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was actually our behind-the-scenes plan for a series preview, was using Star Wars.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
Dare I ask what you would have done for the Finals?
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 8, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Sat around and watch the Lakers win as usual like everyone else, no?
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
by olf on Jul 8, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Hill could be R2D2, he does many things that help our team, and he can help us in so many ways, he’s like Pop’s utility belt. RJ is definitely C3PO, Bonner could be Jar Jar.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
Is there a possibility of doing a sign and trade with RJ with any other teams? Will we be over the cap space if we sign him?
OFF-season
we can sign and trade but his value in a trade is crappy since he opted out….all of his trade value was in his expiring number
Linas Kleiza opted out with Olympiacos, and just signed a 4 year, $20M offer sheet from Toronto. Denver has 7 days to match.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
So basically we are doomed if we don’t either resign or S&T Jefferson?
We’re doomed…….
And is anyone else really starting wonder why we’re not hearing anything about Splitter?
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
He’s probably on his honeymoon. But now that the signing period has officially begun, I’m on pins and needles anyway.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
i think we are, somewhat, doomed if he doesn’t return. I don’t really like RJ, but he’s the only SF with significant experience (sorry Gee). I am still pushing for getting Wright or Gomes, but I don’t think that even if we could (which I doubt since Tiago will get full MLE), that that’d be enough since we’d still be out RJ.
I’m hoping for Tiago, RJ, and Wright or Gomes to be our moves, but I’m just feeling a lot of doubts towards it all as days go by without any Spurs moves outside of seeing how much Parker is worth to the NBA.
Think about it, we could go into next year with having Anderson, Hairston, or Gee STARTING at SF. Good god we need help.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
I guess we could always resort to the Hypnotoad treatment
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
KA1Z3R this discussion is about free agen—-ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
You’re not the only one who can destroy the flow of a thread with a random gif. I feel so—-ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
Hey, you guys need to quit messing with these threads and get back on ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
This is why I love PtR, there’s always something crazy going on. Hey, is that a —-ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD
Am I the only one unaffected by they HypnoALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 8, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
So I’ve been evaluating the likelihood of SA getting this Tiago deal done and just wanted to say——ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD
"You may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas." -Davy Crockett
"Give me an army of West Point graduates, and I'll win a battle. Give me a handful of Texas Aggies, and I'll win a war." -Gen. George S. Patton
If we get Tiago and Rj back what doe-ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD
ROBBLE ROBBLE ROBBLE
by Tuhamburglar on Jul 8, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Forward Travis Outlaw has agreed to a five-year, $35 million deal with the Nets, his agent, Bill Duffy, told ESPN The Magazine’s Ric Bucher.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
With what they have now (squat) and what they had last year (diddly squat). Maybe the decade…
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
yes
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Can someone be jinxed twice?
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 8, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
So… they went ahead with their back-up plan in case they don’t get LeBron?
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
No, they’re preparing a sign-and-trade for RJ.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
Well, what the fuck. Makes sense to me.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Heh, that was a joke.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
I know
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
am i the only one who thinks this is actually a good move for the Nets? Getting a great offensive weapon in Outlaw (though a wee inconsistent) giving them……1 offensive weapon.
The biggest need other then bench for the Nets was to get good offensive weapons. They did a very good job of this and I fully support the move.
Maybe now Lee can not have so much pressure on him when shooting the 3 and thus the floor can be spread for Harris and Lopez.
Nets still have money left for David lee if they want him and enough for a decent bench. Nets are getting good and I wouldn’t underestimate them. SF was a huge weakness last year and they just got a fairly good starter to fill the spot.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
Latest tweets:
@PDcavsinsider Cavs in trade talks with Minny for Jonny Flynn. Flynn represented by LeBron’s agent.
@SpearsNBAYahoo: Agent Duffy tells Y! Travis Outlaw’s 5-year, $35 mill deal with NJ fully guaranteed.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 8, 2010 11:04 AM CDT reply actions
Is anyone else getting nervous knowing the Spurs have done NOTHING so far?
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 12:02 PM CDT reply actions
word up. we need some news. we still have a hole at SF. not a hole. just no SF.
by FreshmakerDTM on Jul 8, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
a hole the size of a SF?
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 8, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
We need to be sending some more tweets Tiago’s way.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
Not really. I wasn’t expecting anything until this weekend (FA signings will speed up after LeBron signs and the cap was just set).
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Is anyone else getting nervous knowing the Spurs have done NOTHING so far?
No.
The Spurs were never going to be major players in free-agency this summer. I accepted this, after the RAGE trade went down this time last year and when Manu signed his extension. The MLE was the only chip they could play with and that was going to be used to lure Tiago Splitter.
Meanwhile, Taigo was in the midst of celebrating a Euro title, prepping for his marriage, throwing a bachelor’s party, getting hitched and enjoying the honeymoon. I really don’t see how the Spurs could have a serious sit down with him, with so much going on in his personal life.
R.C. probably spoke in generalities with Tiago’s agent, while his client was away and the Spurs were waiting on the cap figures to come in; which they finally did. In the next couple of days, I’m certain we’ll hear from Taigo himself (finally) and see where the Spurs fall on his radar. Not a lot can happen with some teams though, until LeBrand’s superdickery comes to a merciful end.
...!!
I don’t think there’s no room for concern yet. Their positioning depended on players in the lower tiers of talent who have been playing the waiting game. I suspect the RJ situation will be resolved within the next week, probably before the weekend is up. Splitter, who knows? Any other Spurs action likely won’t occur until these two things are settled.
My thoughts exactly. We need to have the Splitter deal done first, especially, so we can know if there will be any MLE money leftover.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 8, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
don’t think there’s no room for concern
Please, we try to maintain grammar around here. Now where’d I put that there Sunkist
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
I dunno. We did something last year and it didn’t go so well.
Mebbe the FO should do nothing, just to shake things up.
If you don’t need ACL’s to make it big, you don’t need pinky fingers. - completely deck
Has any team done a non-stupid thing yet? Sometimes it’s best to sit tight while your competition plays “I can lean farther over the edge than you”.
by doggydogworld on Jul 8, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Has any team done a non-stupid thing yet?
Uh… sadly, I’ll say the Lakers.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
Yeah, that’s the one I was thinking of as well. The other downer is we may be putting distance between ourselves and some stupid teams by standing pat for now, but those stupid teams are mostly in the east.
by doggydogworld on Jul 8, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Brendan Haywood getting 5-year, $55 million deal to re-sign with Mavs.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 12:35 PM CDT reply actions
Jermaine O’Neal is going to Boston and Kyle Korver is going to NJ, according to Woj. Pretty safe to say NJ isn’t getting Lebron.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
I don’t think they have room anymore, plus they just signed two small forwards.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
so Boston further keeps the band together by getting non-3 point Rasheed Wallace and New Jersey makes another great move in terms of strengthening their shooting and overall offense.
Korver off the bench for some 3’s……better than Alston to begin last year. Nets slowly getting a bench put together.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
Here’s something to snack on, via 48MoH:
http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2010/07/08/shaquille-oneal-spurs-rumor/
The end of the article sums up my thoughts entirely : "But I think one thing’s for certain, Spurs fans would rather have a 25-year-old Spanish league MVP in Splitter than a 38-year-old Shaq looking for one last ring and a "farewell tour."
"This team is like a bunch of cockroaches. They just don't die!" -Charles Barkley, after Game 7 vs. the NOOCH.
The "I'm gonna rip the eyes out of your head and piss into your dead skull! You f***ed with the wrong Marine!" face. Because Popovich can be kinda scary.
So yeah, realized this was already way up there and discussed – in any case, that’s 48MoH’s ‘talk’ about the whole O’Neal thing…man I need to look through the replies more thoroughly here…my bad x.x
"This team is like a bunch of cockroaches. They just don't die!" -Charles Barkley, after Game 7 vs. the NOOCH.
The "I'm gonna rip the eyes out of your head and piss into your dead skull! You f***ed with the wrong Marine!" face. Because Popovich can be kinda scary.
Josh Howard is optimistic that he’ll get a new contract soon. I think Denver should contact him, as all they would need to promise him is his very own medical marijuana card.
A California team would be more enticing, in that respect. I can see him being a Clipper.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 8, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
lol, that’d be interesting seeing j-ho rollin’ wit ol’ Vinny Del Negro (favorite Spur player’s name ever, btw lol)
"You may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas." -Davy Crockett
"Give me an army of West Point graduates, and I'll win a battle. Give me a handful of Texas Aggies, and I'll win a war." -Gen. George S. Patton
Howard on the Nuggets would have them be a scary offensive team — usually when he was at Dallas he’d do all of the damage in the first 1/2 and allow Dirk to rest up and do his scoring/etc. in the 2nd half, and I think that’s what they lost when they traded him.
I see him and Martin doing the same thing in Denver with them scoring lots in the first 1/2 and saving Anthony for the stretch run…. but the defense and psyche of Denver would be oh so worse (or better? Pot can make people mellow if anything…)
"This team is like a bunch of cockroaches. They just don't die!" -Charles Barkley, after Game 7 vs. the NOOCH.
The "I'm gonna rip the eyes out of your head and piss into your dead skull! You f***ed with the wrong Marine!" face. Because Popovich can be kinda scary.
Purple Row and SBNation with some very funny posts about LeBroncalypse.
by CapHill on Jul 8, 2010 3:50 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Interesting NBA Free Agency Observation
Hey I was listening to some podcast from yesterday – ESPN radio I think. And someone made an interesting comparison between the NBAs free agency & MLBs. In the MLB free agency consists largely of how much the Yankees will spend to out bid everyone. In the NBA the two top teams LAL & BOS are not players in the big-time free agency deals. And neither are other top teams from last year like CLE & ORL, make your own list. (Yes I know CLE is trying to re-sign LeBron, or they might sign some if LBJ leaves but that is different to me.)
I think that is good for the NBA.
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
Sign And Trade Rumor
Knicks Get:
-Anthony Randolph
-Ronny Turiaf
-Kelenna Azubuike
-Fillers
Warriors Get:
-David Lee for 6 years, 80 million
AKA: Linix129, sw12
retarded.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
48 MoH comments speculated on some 3-team trade with us thrown in there. We ended up with Turiaf, Azubuike, and Randolph; warriors got Lee, and i think Knicks got Richard Jefferson.
Didn’t really make much sense to me
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
Is this going to be the game thread?
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
What time does the game start?
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 8, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
According to my sources, and they are impeccable by the way, LeBron is going to New York and will be a 3 sport athlete. He will play with the Knicks, Yankees, Mets, Giants and Jets.
Gotta build the brand.
I never take the high road, but I tell other people to, that way there is more room for me on the low road.
BLOLAIR is back, baby!
dejuan45: Lebron iz goin 2 da NFL!!!! LOL!!! JK
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 8:15 PM CDT reply actions
DeJuan45: He might just retire! He got enough money!!!! Lol
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
So… it’s way past 10 minutes and still no decision. This guy’s just messing around and can’t keep his word.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 8, 2010 8:20 PM CDT reply actions
And.. would it be better if ‘Bron just announced that he’s retiring?
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 8, 2010 8:21 PM CDT reply actions
This show is beating all records for the most ridiculous sport show in history. I really enjoy it for this reason.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
He decided this morning. Ha-ha-ha!
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
He changed his mind in his dream. This is precious.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
He just ripped an entire city’s heart out
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
How many times can a city have its heart ripped out?
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
What did I do?
I never take the high road, but I tell other people to, that way there is more room for me on the low road.
They wont win. MAYBE the East, but not the title.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 8:29 PM CDT reply actions
Who is their PG? their bench? Come on.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, they still have Mario Chalmers. And Michael Beasley. They can dress 5 guys right now.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
They will have to move Beasley out to pay LeBron, unless the three stars agree to less money.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
Or may be they can trade LeBron and get somebody good in return. I mean, it’s not like they don’t have any tradeable assets.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
I say trade Lebron’s ass back to Cleveland. Get back Verajao, Mo Williams, Anthony Parker and two future first round picks.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
Bron to NJ for Lopez, Harris and Yi would be my trade.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
Yes, that’s much better for Miami. But I just thought it would be funny to send Lebron to Cleveland where he is now hated.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
Yeah, it would be pretty awkward. I loved it when Bron was talking about his loyalty. The guy is totally delusional.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
Traded to Washington?
If you liked it, then you shoulda put a fifth ring on it.
by day_late_friend on Jul 8, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
DeJuan45 WOWWWwwwwwwwwww!!!!!! No REsPECT!!! SMGDH!!!!
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 8, 2010 8:29 PM CDT reply actions
DeJuan45: WOWWWwwwwwwwwww!!!!!! No REsPECT!!! SMGDH!!!!
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 8:30 PM CDT reply actions
“Spoelstra will be the coach.”
GOL
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 8:31 PM CDT reply actions
LMFAO. Maybe for summer league.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
that’s because the heat team will basically be full of d-leaguers.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 8, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
+!
sad but true. But seriously, if they don’t go to the championship next year he is gonna get fired.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jul 9, 2010 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
So his mom told him that in his dreams?
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
I wonder if Delonte West was with his mom in his dream.
I never take the high road, but I tell other people to, that way there is more room for me on the low road.
by SinCitySpur on Jul 8, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
This just in: Heat $230,023,111,392,099.56 over the cap
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 8:35 PM CDT reply actions
hey, did you guys hear that some lebron guy is going to a florida team? like…orlando i think?
free malik hairston!
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by sleep research facility on Jul 8, 2010 8:37 PM CDT reply actions
So, are they all going to do the powder thing at the same time before the game?
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
plus the little dances and fake group photos
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
More importantly… more players will FINALLY start fucking signing.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 8:39 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Amen
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
What day will the NBA schedule the Miami vs. Cleveland game?
Opening Day
Christmas Day
April Fool’s Day
I never take the high road, but I tell other people to, that way there is more room for me on the low road.
chadfordinsider David Lee has now agreed to a 6 year, $80 mil deal with the Warriors via a sign-and-trade with the Knicks.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 8:42 PM CDT reply actions
Makes no sense…
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
No. They were waiting on LeBron’s decision
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Outlaw to NJ, Randolph to NY, LBJ to Miami…sign and trade market for Richard Jefferson is shrinking fast….ugh
-varner48MoH
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
LeBron: The Custodian and ticket salesman are important to building a team.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 8:45 PM CDT reply actions
No wonder we lost to the Suns. Ours must suck.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
This is where a lesser man might make a vaguely racist joke comparing San Antonio and the Arizona immigration law.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 8, 2010 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
“All three will take less money”
…huh.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 8:46 PM CDT reply actions
they should all sign to minimum contracts
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
and sign Mason to a max contract?
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
and sign the JV during the midseason
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
for that playoff push
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
“Fell short” when you made the finals?
Yeah, no shit.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 8:48 PM CDT reply actions
@OrangeRoundie Remember when the Bulls lost in 89 and Jordan teamed up with Barkley and Ewing. That was so amazing and impressive.
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by sleep research facility on Jul 8, 2010 8:49 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Whoah… how did he get on the Spurs there?
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 8:49 PM CDT reply actions
Hahahaha they showed him someone burning his jersey
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 8:50 PM CDT reply actions
varner48moh: Every serious contender should beef up their frontline…Miami will have difficulty defending uber-talented frontcourts…
A-FUCKING-MEN
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 8:50 PM CDT reply actions
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
lebron james will now declare that it was all a joke, he’s signing with Chicago
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
July fools!
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
still 7 minutes left for a dramatic finale?
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
He’s actually a woman.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
or a horse
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
…a broom? Fuck, I cant keep up.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
“I have decided to play for the Miami Dolphins, not Heat”
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
is there gonna be a team more people will hope fail than miami? maybe not hate, but at least fail? shades of the lakers (hi olf!) in 04…
free malik hairston!
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by sleep research facility on Jul 8, 2010 8:53 PM CDT reply actions
Warriors expected to finalize sign and trade with NYK tomorrow to acquire forward D Lee, source tells Y! Randolph, Turiaf & Azubuike to NY.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 8:54 PM CDT reply actions
So long before one of these guys gets injured while they all fight for the ball?
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 8, 2010 8:57 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Someone breaks a wrist on the rim on an alley oop attempt.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
So, unless I’m mistaken, James just became Robin to Wade’s Batman. What does that make Bosh – Batgirl? Or Alfred?
He’s the spandex shorts on Robin
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I DONT CARE WHO BOSH IS LEBRON IS TWOFACE
RABBLE RABBLE
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 8, 2010 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Tomorrow the Cleveland owner will be standing outside Lebron’s window playing “In Your Eyes”.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 8:59 PM CDT reply actions
Clippers have announced they have signed free agent G Randy Foye and free agent F Ryan Gomes.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 9:03 PM CDT reply actions
Ryan Gomes has signed a three year, $12 million contract with the Clippers, his agent, Bob Myers, tells Y! Sports.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Kevorkian complex
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
They’re like the Hufflepuff of the NBA. You don’t choose, you just are.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 8, 2010 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
moneymase: I’m in Mia right now and people are going nuts!
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 9:06 PM CDT reply actions
why? for being in miami right now?
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by sleep research facility on Jul 8, 2010 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Eh? No, for all his comments throughout the offseason.
I said that because nowadays anything he says annoys me, even that tweet.
I smell death... everywhere.
i hope he comes back next season, just to see how everyone here reacts.
free malik hairston!
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by sleep research facility on Jul 8, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I will burn his jersey. With him in it.
I never take the high road, but I tell other people to, that way there is more room for me on the low road.
by SinCitySpur on Jul 8, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Well, I’m sure we’ll dislike him intensely until he makes at least 4 game winners.
I smell death... everywhere.
I would keep disliking him unless he starts playing great defense and starts showing up in the playoffs. And keeps his tweets to himself :-).
Kinda joking though, I don’t really dislike him, and it is tough having every tweet under public scrutiny.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
He’s really making it easy to, isn’t he?
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 8, 2010 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
“and also for the kids.”
Yeah, lets not forget about them.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2010 9:06 PM CDT reply actions
Oh man, who said that was coming? JRW? You win a cookie.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 8, 2010 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah. Basically, now we can have a positive season with two outcomes:
- Spurs winning a championship
- Miami not winning a championship
Good times.
I smell death... everywhere.
by LatinD on Jul 8, 2010 9:12 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
I e-mailed you back, by the way. Speaking of Tiago.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 8, 2010 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
How many games will the Heat lose in the regular season?
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
Unbeaten in the regular season, but will get swept in the opening round.
(A Man can dream, can’t he?)
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
Projection for 2010-2011 Heat 63-19. See analysis on http://waynewinston.com
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
@BQRMagic: Unspeakably hilarious: Joe Johnson is officially the highest-paid free agent signing this offseason.
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by sleep research facility on Jul 8, 2010 9:23 PM CDT reply actions
@alanhahn: A disgusted Walt Frazier put it simply: “He took the easy way out.”
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by sleep research facility on Jul 8, 2010 9:29 PM CDT reply actions
wow
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I wandered over the the Cavalier and Chicago Bulls sites and the contrast is astounding. The Cavs have remarkably few posts, though the ones that are there are passionate enough. Yes, small market team, but still…
The Bulls have a ridiculously high number of posts.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
drunk/top of building ledges
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I just wonder what they’ll think of their hero now. Maybe WaveOcean will stop by?
I smell death... everywhere.
Maybe WaveOcean will stop by?
… the gates of heaven? hell? prison?
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
I think it’s time to change allegiances. And I don’t mean to Miami.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 8, 2010 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
well, lets hope he hasn’t died, or killed anyone, so he can join the silver and black, he was too smart to like Lebron anyways.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 8, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Pop: There should be a committee that regulates this stupid free agency bullshit. I should be the head of this committee.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 8, 2010 9:40 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Picking the Heat in NBA 2K11 is gonna be like picking Oddjob in Goldeneye #CHEATING.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 9:40 PM CDT reply actions
I hate how the analysts says that LBJ, Bosh and wade are sacrificing money, fuck they are going to make $100M each
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
Heat starting 5. Iverson, Wade, Lebron, Bosh, Shaq.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
Shaq? Hah. That’d be something.
I think we could power the world if we harnessed the hate that starting five will generate.
I smell death... everywhere.
Dang. That would actually be a decent starting five, for the few minutes Shaq can give them. What about the rest of the roster?
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
well, i wouldn’t start all those five, they can’t shoot to save their life. but those five, plus, chalmers, joel anthony, beasley, mason, and maybe another shooter would work as my main 9 guys. but that’s a bad starting five in terms that none can shoot.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 8, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope they don’t get Shaq. That team right now have 2 weaknesses, lack of shooting and size.
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
And a point guard, though you could argue they don’t need one with both Wade and LeBron able to bring the ball up. I always feel the anchors for a championship team are the pivot man and the point guard, and they have neither.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
Source: Dwyane Wade Urges Heat to Sign Jason Williams
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
GOL yeah that’ll solve everything
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually he would probably be a step up from Chalmers and would make the team more dangerous. They just need a decent point guard, not an all star, just because both Wade and LeBron will want to bring up the ball anyway. However, they still need a good center. Bosh is not gonna cut it against a good frontcourt.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
Iverson would be a scary good fit for them off the bench
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
Iverson would work even as a starter for this team. But then you have three guys that want to control the ball.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
that’s why I would put Lebron or Wade on the bench. Probably Lebron since he can do so many things a la Manu.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 8, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Because you know, LeBron is selfless that way, just like Manu.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
it won’t happen, but that’s just what I would do if I were Spoelstra.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 8, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Lets take Ai and Snaq just to keep them off the Heat. = P
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
Iverson flat out sucks right now. He cant defend, he wont pass, he is a chucker, he is inefficient and he has lost the speed that made him so unique. HE SUCKS.
And Shaq is only good for 15 mins against certain matchups. I would love to see them both go to miami, it would be a super huge fail of epic proportions.
"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"
This was on one of the Cavs threads. Can you imagine anyone on the Spurs doing this, even inadvertently?
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
This is only my second time watching the video, and I gotta admit, it appears as though Lebron looks directly at the ballboy, then non chalantly lets the jacket hit the ground in front of him. Hahaha.
Still, if this is the worst thing Lebron ever does….besides, we have no way of knowing if the ballboy was heckling him, or what have you.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
Check the reports. The ballboy wasn’t heckling him. LeBron’s simply an asshole. Is that so hard to believe?
I smell death... everywhere.
I will just take your word about the reports. Even then, its just not a huge deal to me. We have playerse that get caught with guns and are accused of rape, etc.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
Its simple, he was focusing on the game and simply let his jacket hit the ground instead of cordially handing it over. Besides, its the enemies ballboy. Hahaha
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
Let’s see if this works.
I smell death... everywhere.
by LatinD on Jul 8, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
High-larious!!
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 8, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t doubt it was inadvertent, that is why I phrased it the way I did, but even so – I cannot imagine anyone on our team doing that. They have that little bit of niceness that notices things around them.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
Mace would probably do it, if he was aiming for the ballboy.
I did a lot of soul searching. I didn't find anything.
by Hipuks on Jul 8, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Though to be honest I missed your twisted sense of humor, not you personally.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
Oh you know, just came back from camping and I’m getting over the humiliating, embarrassing, shameful defeat we suffered at the hands of Germany. It’s nothing really, just an incredibly talented squad wasted. No biggie. I’m sure we’ll be alright in 4 years, when the World Cup is in Brazil.
I did a lot of soul searching. I didn't find anything.
What a waste of brilliant coaching too. Ah, that teamwork and preparation That was a shame and I will not rub it in.
I did like Diego this year though. I had gotten tired of him over the years but for some reason found him refreshing and cute this world cup. It would have been great to have a tactical coach assisting though.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
Shit happens I guess. I respected Dunga as a coach and he did not better.
I wonder who’s turn it is now. Maybe Kempes will coach the national team.
I did a lot of soul searching. I didn't find anything.
Oh that’s right. We have yet to lose 4-0 to Brazil. Gotta give him that chance.
I did a lot of soul searching. I didn't find anything.
Let me dream that dream, the dream of Maradona holding the cup in the Maracana. You can keep Kempes.
I smell death... everywhere.
Yeah, sometimes I let my bias for having actual coaches coach teams let in the way.
Dream away.
I did a lot of soul searching. I didn't find anything.
Like Pekerman, you mean, taking out Riquelme against Germany and sending them into full retreat mode?
No, wait, you probably mean a coach like Bielsa, with his ever-present 3-4-1-2, regardless of his opponent of what players he has, and not even making it to the best-of-16 round.
Oooh, right, you must be thinking of a real coach like Basile, who couldn’t keep his team together. Twice. And had to ask Maradona to bail him out in 94.
Perhaps you mean Passarella, who didn’t call the best 5 in the world because he had long hair? Yeah, that made sense. Oh, and Orteguita was a brilliant choice.
This was a good team. A game’s only a game.
I smell death... everywhere.
Yeah, I mean like that. Like coaches. With tactics, who understand how to coach.
Maradona is to coaching what a life coach is to a psychologist. He might make you feel good for a while, but he doesn’t know shit.
I did a lot of soul searching. I didn't find anything.
Maybe. But it was fun while it lasted. More than I can say for all the other morons. And also, we sought the game and used our best attackers for once.
Ball didn’t go in. That’s football.
Oh, and for the record, I wonder how you could tell how much Maradona knows about tactics. Not two weeks ago everyone was pretty happy with his “revolutionary” 4-1-5. But I guess winning is everything, and every Argentine’s a coach.
I smell death... everywhere.
We got beaten in every way possible, and we played with a 4-3-3 against a team that was shown to be remarkable at counter attacking. We faced ONE, ONE really good team, and we were found lacking in every which way.
Yes, and winning is everything. That’s the whole effing point of the World Cup. What are we, Chile? We’re gonna build off this shit?
No, we go there to win it all, anything less is a failure. Losing 4-0 is a failure and an embarrassment. But hey, let’s keep him as a coach, after all, remember that 1986 goal? That was pretty cool.
I did a lot of soul searching. I didn't find anything.
We suffered a goal 2 minutes into the game, off a free kick. That has nothing to do with them winning the middle of the field with their extra midfielder, and it set the game up perfectly for a team like Germany that is built for counterattacking.
After 15 minutes when they moved the ball around like ’70 Brazil, We pushed them back for the next 60 minutes, and owned the game, until they broke our defense. Maradona just put more attackers in at that point hoping for a miraculous comeback. We tried to tie it, and suffered for it. Whatever.
If all Maradona is to you, football-wise, is that 1986 goal… then we have nothing to discuss.
Oh, and winning is everything? Then I guess Bilardo is your hero and you loved that ’90 team. Winners, through and through.
I smell death... everywhere.
Fuck yeah Bilardo is my hero. What have we done since he left? Shit, that’s what.
Oh but hey, we’re so talented we could build two squads with our players. If only we could build one that could win something.
The first goal was terribly defended, no surprise there. Our defense was suspect the whole tournament and we finally paid for it. We were the Suns of the football world, all offense and no defense.
Losing in 2006 in penalties was football, losing in ‘98 to a hell of a goal by the Netherlands was football. Losing 4-0 is a thrashing. There’s nothing to analyze because we were so dominated.
If a Formula One driver gets the strategy wrong on a race, you analyze that. If he crashes on the first lap you just stare at the wreckage.
I’m staring at the wreckage and wondering what in the world Maradona has done to keep his job.
I did a lot of soul searching. I didn't find anything.
When you defend man-on-man in a free kick it’s all about the goalie and the defender. What does tactic have to do with it? Otamendi was the darling of every sports writer in this country ever since the game against Greece. How’s that Maradona’s fault?
Bilardo is a moron that is barely coherent, and won because he had the best player in the world at his absolute peak. Oh, and Goycochea four years later – and a jug of water full of drugs.
The main problem with Argentinian teams has been lack of consistency: in strategies, in players, in coaches. I didn’t want Maradona to be the coach at first, but I liked the group he created. I want that consistency.
You’re welcome to pining for Bilardo.
I smell death... everywhere.
I’d pine for strategy any game of the day. If people are happy that everyone in the Argentine team is best buds and they’re all having fun and everything is cool then that’s them.
I rather have a solid defense, a definite playing style and a system.
Modern football is too complex to just put a bunch of players together and hope they win because the coach happens to be good at emotional support.
This whole thing is a like a parody of a bad movie. The tragic figure takes over the team that he once led to its greatest heights, and now by making them believe in themselves he powers them to win again and he atones for what he did in 1994.
Except it’s an indie movie so we lose 4-0 against Germany and we’re a joke of a team in the end.
I did a lot of soul searching. I didn't find anything.
What he did in 1994? You mean taking us to the WC when we had to play the repechaje with Australia and desperately asked him to save our ass? Or basically winning games 1 and 2 with Caniggia? Oh, wait, you mean the complete dependency the team had on a player that hadn’t played for months before the WC. Golly, how didn’t that coach (a real coach, too) fix that?
Joke of a team, eh? What if we’d finished 0-3? Would we be a better team? And if we hadn’t put 4 attackers after going 0-2 and instead had been conservative and managed to finish with that score? Great team, right?
How is modern football more complex than old football? Explain that to me. Is it the Jabulani? Or do you mean that the 70s Brazil couldn’t win against the powerhouse that is 2010 Spain? What about 1974 Holland against 2010 Holland?
It’s great that you appreciate a real system like Germany’s, that consists of being orderly on defense and trying to score a goal during a counterattack. It didn’t work, in the end, but I guess making the semifinals was a success and they will forever be remembered for their vertiginous football during their match against Spain.
Spain won playing much better than Germany, trying to create football (and failing, too, most of the time), but I remember them being a bad penalty kick away from losing to freaking Paraguay in the previous game. But hey, they won, so it doesn’t count.
People are happy that a good group was created because they (we) believe it’s conducive to good football in the future, and that at least 50% of our national team for the next 4 years will consist of these players. Crazy, eh?
It’s easy to use words like “style” and “system”. “Strategy” is awesome, too. The truth is that 90% of football is the players, and these are the ones we have. If Messi, Higuaín y Tevez can’t score a goal during 60 straight minutes of ball possession, well, that’s that.
But hey, “indie movie”. Hah. That analogy was the shit.
I smell death... everywhere.
I feel like the third friend on a table at the bar that just listens to the other two have an epic discussion, only to interrumpt with “check that girl’s ass!”. Awesome argument, but I will have to side with LatinD on this one. Maradona acomplished as much as any of the previous coaches since he retired from playing, and I even think that he formed a real group that will stick for a while. Sometimes sports are not that complex, specially with soccer. Just put the right guys, and make a sub if one of them is failing miserably (like otamendi). We where a mess on the qualification, and all of a sudden Maradona made us believe we where contenders. And we really were. All by infusing passion and camarederie in the players. You cant underestimate that. Think about Doc Rivers….is he that good as an X’s and O’x coach? NO, but he knows how to manage a group and bring the best of them as a team.
Fuck it, I want Maradona back, it was a fun ride and I think we can win it all with him as the leader. Maybe just bring a high calibre assistant….Tocalli anyone? Gallego?
"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"
Gallego, please. But either would be great.
My problem is, imagine Gallego as the main coach. Would any of these stars play for him? He likes to call out everyone and cuss at them in public.
He’s a great coach, but can he create a group? I doubt it. Maybe Bianchi could.
I smell death... everywhere.
In my fantasy world Bianchi and Diego would become super friends and accept to be both the coaches of Argentina, how awesome would that be?
"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"
Sometimes sports are not that complex, specially with soccer.
I think Mourinho proved good coaching goes a long way, but then again he might just be really, REALLY good at making all his players feel special and unique.
If you guys want a mavericky coach, hey that’s cool. But don’t pretend that Maradona is a coach when he’s clearly not, and when we get our ass kicked again as we will because our defense is shit, then don’t act surprised.
You don’t want a team, you want a feel good story, and a feel good story in real life ends in pure shit.
I did a lot of soul searching. I didn't find anything.
a feel good story in real life ends in pure shit
May I disagree and say that a feel good story in my real life ends with me feeling good?
Seriously though, I’ve enjoyed this exchange as much as anyone possibly could while knowing about 10% of the names being thrown around. It’s like watching two aliens fight in a UFC-type set up, only you don’t know the rules or whether either has landed a particularly devastating blow because you don’t know the alien anatomy. But you can see them really swinging away at each other and expending a ton of energy, so it sure is exciting.
Allright, that’s all from me. Carry on.
If you don’t need ACL’s to make it big, you don’t need pinky fingers. - completely deck
Lets hope its not a basketball Mace throws at the poor ballboy.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
It’s fine. He will definitely miss the ballboy.
If you liked it, then you shoulda put a fifth ring on it.
by day_late_friend on Jul 8, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
While I dont think this union will yield a title, I gotta give Lebron props for setting his ego aside and signing with these two other guys.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
Well, I’ll be happy if he never wins a title. That’s the whole extent of my contempt.
He’s basically the anti-Manu. What’s to like?
I smell death... everywhere.
I don’t particularly care for him myself. I think hes a cock too. His refusal to shake hands with the Magic a couple of years ago actually rubbed me the wrong may more so than the ballboy incident.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
His refusal to shake hands with the Magic a couple of years ago actually rubbed me the wrong may more so than the ballboy incident.
Here’s where we agree, alamobro. But for me, the issue goes beyond the not shaking hands (although that’s bad enough) and extends to the fact that HE DEFENDED the action afterwards! Hey it’s one thing to make a bad choice right after getting knocked out of the playoffs; it’s another entire level of awfulness when you’re rationalizing behavior that marks you out as a bad sport. Saying it’s just because you want to win so much? For crying out loud, everybody wants to win so much! But, with notable exceptions, everyone overcomes their feelings of loss at that moment, in order to acknowledge the victory, congratulate the opposition and wish them luck (well, maybe not that last one, but still.)
As far as the ballboy’s concerned, I was initially appalled, and was about to write something scathing, but then I saw that it was the opposing team’s ballboy, and while I don’t condone what he did, I at least understand it since he was on the road and probably didn’t know the ballboy personally — as I’d expect he would if it had been a Cavs home game. I don’t think you can make the argument that his actions were unintentional, but I’m not going to go out of my way to bust him for it. There are plenty of other things he’s done that make it obvious what kind of guy he is (dunk cover-up, last night’s media circus) that I just don’t feel like jumping all over this one with a rant.
If you don’t need ACL’s to make it big, you don’t need pinky fingers. - completely deck
by J.R. Wilco on Jul 9, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I dont know about you, but I never thought Lebrons ego would allow him to go to Wades team and also sign for less money than he could have made somewhere else.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
Economically-wise, I think he thinks he can earn more money by actually winning a title. Ego-wise, I believe he thinks he can turn Wade’s team into his team in a minute.
I smell death... everywhere.
Not gonna happen, not in Miami-Wade county.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
It will be interesting to see which of the two emerges as the MVP of the team. Their skills are seemingly so redundant…
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
LeBron is powerful enough to post up inside as well though, so they could play a pretty good inside outside game. Talk about a matchup nightmare.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
Talking possibilities here, sorry, not what he has done so far.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
In that case, maybe Lebron will not choke in the playoffs and win a ring.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 8, 2010 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe he won’t quit on his team too.
If you liked it, then you shoulda put a fifth ring on it.
by day_late_friend on Jul 8, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
in all seriousness though, Lebron would get a lot more of my respect for him as a basketball player if he learned how to post up. but he’s too flashy for that.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 8, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
i agree. he would have created more match-up problems if he tried developing some post-up moves.
If you liked it, then you shoulda put a fifth ring on it.
by day_late_friend on Jul 8, 2010 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
With Wade on the same team it really is a no-brainer. Take it inside, overpower your man or kick it out to DWade. With Bosh there it will be tough for the big men to come over and help. Damn, this really can be a scary team.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
It all depends on their supporting cast.
If you don’t need ACL’s to make it big, you don’t need pinky fingers. - completely deck
I gotta give props to LeBron, to make such a humongous deal out of him signing to another team, with major news networks focusing on it, the guy is a marketing genius or has some very smart people behind him. Seeing as how the Celtics then the Lakers have won the last championships, I’m pretty sure Miami will win a couple of rings. That is, until Satan decides to sign with a team.
I did a lot of soul searching. I didn't find anything.
Yeah, they basically had LeBron shove that sword down their collective throats.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 8, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
That open letter from Dan Gilbert is a fascinating read.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 8, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
manuginobili
Rumor: @LScola4 to Miami? They say they need at least one explosive athlete in the team…
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
Scola’s a restricted free agent – I believe Miami would have to do a minimum offer (I think 4 mil +) and do a sign/trade if they really want him since if they sign him to the minimum/etc. Houston would be nuts not to match. I don’t think Miami can afford Scola, thank goodness. Besides they have Bosh in PF, James as SF, there’s no real reason for Scola.
"This team is like a bunch of cockroaches. They just don't die!" -Charles Barkley, after Game 7 vs. the NOOCH.
The "I'm gonna rip the eyes out of your head and piss into your dead skull! You f***ed with the wrong Marine!" face. Because Popovich can be kinda scary.
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Gilbert to fans: “You simply don’t deserve this kind of cowardly betrayal. You have given so much and deserve so much more.”
WojYahooNBA
More Gilbert: "I personally guarantee that the Cavaliers will win an NBA championship before the the self-titled former “King” wins one."
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Gilbert also references a “shameful display of selfishness and betrayal by one of our very own” and a “shocking act of disloyalty”
Wow. Way to make other free agents want to come to Cleveland there, guy.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
Gilbert to Cavs fans:
Dear Cleveland, All Of Northeast Ohio and Cleveland Cavaliers Supporters Wherever You May Be Tonight;
As you now know, our former hero, who grew up in the very region that he deserted this evening, is no longer a Cleveland Cavalier.
This was announced with a several day, narcissistic, self-promotional build-up culminating with a national TV special of his “decision” unlike anything ever “witnessed” in the history of sports and probably the history of entertainment.
Clearly, this is bitterly disappointing to all of us.
The good news is that the ownership team and the rest of the hard-working, loyal, and driven staff over here at your hometown Cavaliers have not betrayed you nor NEVER will betray you.
There is so much more to tell you about the events of the recent past and our more than exciting future. Over the next several days and weeks, we will be communicating much of that to you.
You simply don’t deserve this kind of cowardly betrayal.
You have given so much and deserve so much more.
In the meantime, I want to make one statement to you tonight:
“I PERSONALLY GUARANTEE THAT THE CLEVELAND CAVALIERS WILL WIN AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP BEFORE THE SELF-TITLED FORMER ‘KING’ WINS ONE”
You can take it to the bank.
If you thought we were motivated before tonight to bring the hardware to Cleveland, I can tell you that this shameful display of selfishness and betrayal by one of our very own has shifted our “motivation” to previously unknown and previously never experienced levels.
Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.
Sorry, but that’s simply not how it works.
This shocking act of disloyalty from our home grown “chosen one” sends the exact opposite lesson of what we would want our children to learn. And “who” we would want them to grow-up to become.
But the good news is that this heartless and callous action can only serve as the antidote to the so-called “curse” on Cleveland, Ohio.
The self-declared former “King” will be taking the “curse” with him down south. And until he does “right” by Cleveland and Ohio, James (and the town where he plays) will unfortunately own this dreaded spell and bad karma.
Just watch.
Sleep well, Cleveland.
Tomorrow is a new and much brighter day….
I PROMISE you that our energy, focus, capital, knowledge and experience will be directed at one thing and one thing only:
DELIVERING YOU the championship you have long deserved and is long overdue….
Dan Gilbert
Majority Owner
Cleveland Cavaliers
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 10:27 PM CDT reply actions
WojYahooNBA
Cavs owner goes on and on ripping LeBron James, but the letter is missing a P.S.to the fans: “I’m sorry I enabled him all those years.”
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
That part is so true. Gilbert and company made James into the man he is today.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
Yeah but Cleveland still doesn’t deserve this chit.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 8, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, I think in a sense they did deserve that. They empowered LeBron to become a diva. They always put LeBron before their team and before their city. If he would have chosen to stay, they would continue to worship him, in spite of all his narcissism, self-promotion and selfishness. Now they can see who their idol actually was. Too bad it’s too late.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
To be fair, you can’t blame anyone for wanting to leave Cleveland for Miami.
I did a lot of soul searching. I didn't find anything.
I actually think that both Bron and Cleveland will be better this way. And even if I hate LeBron, he never promised to be a Cavalier for life, so I am not sure his ‘decision’ is qualified as a betrayal.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
Yeah, this part is pretty disgusting, but he would be a prima donna regardless of where he would decide to play. Gilbert knew that Bron would go to the National TV to announce his decision and he didn’t complain about it. They would happily continue to worship LeBron in Cleveland if he won’t decide to leave.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
Yes, that was the part I was pointing at. The one-hour special was just too fucking brutal for Cleveland fans. How could LeBron ever live with that?
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 8, 2010 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
C’mon, haven’t you seen any of those reality shows where a guy decides if he is gonna continue to fuck his current girlfriend or switch to fucking another girl? LeBron’s show was just the same.
This is supposedly a Christian country, and the people are supposed to know that “You shall not make for yourself an idol” is one of the 10 commandments, before “you shall not murder” and “you shall not steal”. Still good people of Cleveland made an idol for themselves and worshiped him for 7 years. Now they are heart-broken, but I believe they should blame themselves and the Cavs organization first and foremost. Nobody in the city and in the organization had a spine to keep LeBron accounted for his behavior as long as he was the Cavalier.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
by Kondor on Jul 9, 2010 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Still good people of Cleveland made an idol for themselves and worshiped him for 7 years. Now they are heart-broken,
Wow, that is awesome. Poetic, even.
by doggydogworld on Jul 9, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions
BOOM goes the dynamite.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 8, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow! Did he really write that or is that some awesome satire?
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
It’s completely real.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
Now that is an effing letter. Non of this “we are thankful for what he has done over the years” bullshit.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
It’s like a really professional version of a middle class worker walking out on the job
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
stupid pr move by gilbert. Please billionaires, don’t drink and dictate to your assistants.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 8, 2010 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
SpearsNBAYahoo Chances of HOU and CHA involved with four-way deal with MIA and TOR appear to be dying.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 10:40 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I did
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
You just kind of tossed it off, huh? A mere trifle!
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 8, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
what do you mean?
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Here I was thinking you were busting my balls.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 9, 2010 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions
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ESPN.com sources: Miami has agree to a trade with Minnesota that will send Michael Beasley to the Wolves. Link forthcoming
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
I’ve determined that Khan is Riley’s beach, it’s the only reason I can see why he’s been harvesting so many point guards for him.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 8, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Sources: Heat & Timberwolves have agreed on trade sending Beasley to T’wolves, who can absorb Beasley’s contract into their salary-cap space
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 8, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
shhh….
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 8, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
… mistakes like that are the only way the wolves will attain non-point guards
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 8, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Kobe threatened to leave on at least one occasion, then Gasol magically appeared.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
Even Kobe, who is not a class act in my book, would never have done it like this. He would just have left.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
Kobe and LeBron have quite different personalities. Kobe’s priorities are: 1) winning; 2) money; 3) limelight. LeBron’s priorities are: 1) limelight; 2) money; 3) winning. For Kobe winning is the ultimate goal. For LeBron winning is the way to become even more famous. He is the showman first and foremost. This “Decision” show was more important for him than the playoffs.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
Kobe’s priorities are: 1) winning; 2) money; 3) limelight
You are thinking of Jordan. Kobe’s priorities are: 1) Legacy 2) Winning 3) Limelight. (legacy and limelight are not the same to me). Kobe wants to win, but he wants the win to be because of him. He is very crafty about shaping his public persona so it is not as obvious.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
I agree that his legacy is even more important for Kobe. He wants to be like Mike or better than Mike. He knows that he needs to win to be compared to Mike. But I don’t think he cares much about being The Global Brand. If he was recognized as the greatest basketball player ever, he would be satisfied with that.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
If he was recognized as the greatest basketball player ever
That is what I meant by legacy. That is his number one wish. He does not care if he is a global icon or if he is on TV all the time. I don’t even think he cares about money beyond a certain point. But his legacy is critical for him. Jordan won because he cared only about winning, even if nobody else knew about it. Kobe wants to win because he wants to be remembered as a winner.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
he cared only about winning, even if nobody else knew about it.
I doubt this part a little bit. I bet that Jordan’s legacy is very important for him, being recognized as the greatest ever is very important to him. His HoF speech was all about his legacy. It seems to me that him and Kobe are quite close in this respect. The difference is that Jordan run out of challenges at some point, so he went to baseball, came back, then tried to win with the Wizards. For Kobe MJ’s legacy is the ultimate challenge, he is unlikely to do anything else as long as he is capable to chase MJ.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
This particular thread of the post has a lot of good insight, but the best line, for my money, is this:
Jordan won because he cared only about winning, even if nobody else knew about it. Kobe wants to win because he wants to be remembered as a winner.
That some wisdom, right there, my friends.
If you don’t need ACL’s to make it big, you don’t need pinky fingers. - completely deck
It’s a Gasollusion Michael!
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jul 8, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
joey over at straight bangin just knocked it out the park:
http://straightbangin.blogspot.com/2010/07/chaining-day-has-arrived.html
free malik hairston!
perth wildcats - 2009/2010 nbl champions baby!
by sleep research facility on Jul 8, 2010 11:30 PM CDT reply actions
I don’t really buy into that. Three players, even three superstars of this magnitude (ok two superstars and one star), will not just stomp over the rest of the league. LA has Pau and Kobe (superstars) along with Bynum and Odom (stars, when healthy or interested), and nobody just hands them the crown. You need a team. A team with chemistry, balance, coaching. Miami may turn into a super-team, but it is not automatically one just because of those players.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
i don’t think that point was being made in the article though, he was pointing out various reasons why this is bad. joey didn’t once say “no-one else has a chance”. he’s talking about storylines, interest in the league, legacies…
free malik hairston!
perth wildcats - 2009/2010 nbl champions baby!
by sleep research facility on Jul 8, 2010 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
FakeCoachPop and Manu are tweeting awfully close together, about awfully similar things…
manuginobili
His one hour show “A Decisão” is gonna be on TV GLOBO this week. RT @koroisthebest: So any update with Tiago?
FakeCoachPop
This is exactly why we signed @manuginobili early. I didn’t want to risk a El Decisión show on Univision.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
lmao who is this guy.. I hope he’s one of ours (PtR)
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 9, 2010 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I’m torn.
I absolutely don’t want the Miami Heat to win, well, ANYTHING now. But I’m a HUGE fan of Dwyane Wade’s. A few days ago, I would have been okay with him winning another title with Chris Bosh as his sidekick/lapdog/ballboy.
Now, with LeFraud James’ public tea-bagging of the entire state of Ohio, Dwyane Wade is going to be on the receiving end of all the bad karma LeBrand and his cronies will bring down with him to South Beach. ::groan::
...!!
Public Tea bagging
LOL!
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jul 9, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
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