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Michael Finley Anyone?

 

When the Celtics first pursued Michael Finley four months ago, hopes were high that he'd be the final piece of the puzzle in their quest for another title. He came armed with his veteran savvy, his championship pedigree and his beautiful jump shot -- but in the end, his impact was minimal in postseason play. It makes you wonder: Does Michael Finley have anything left?

Finley was the oldest member of the 2009-10 Celtics. He arrived in Boston on a Sunday night, March 7, and sat on the TD Garden bench in street clothes as the C's came back and beat the Wizards, 86-83. That Sunday was the day after his 37th birthday.

He brought with him to Boston 15 years of wear and tear. The Celtics had to suspect that he already had one foot out the proverbial door. And yet Finley, who ended up giving little to the Celtics down the stretch and has at times looked completely gassed, has made it perfectly clear that he has no interest in retiring. He's still a basketball player. Nothing's changing.

Given the man's impressive resume, Finley should be allowed to walk away on his own terms. This is a guy who's spent his career as one of the game's most prolific scorers; he's a two-time All-Star, and more importantly he went to the postseason every single year in the last decade. He made five playoff runs in Dallas, four in San Antonio and finally one in Boston. He's already got one ring (with the 2007 Spurs), and he still wants more.

Finley came to Boston looking to win another championship. But his contributions in the Hub were barely noticeable. There was the occasional fluky shooting night when he'd go 6-for-7 and carry the Celtics' offense for a stretch, but the big games were few and far between. Finley spent most of his time on the bench, offering more moral support than clutch shooting. In the entire postseason, 24 games from start to finish, Finley attempted only 11 shots and made three of them. It was like he wasn't even there.

In Boston, Finley had an in. He and coach Doc Rivers go way back -- so far back, in fact, that Rivers claims he can remember Finley's birth. Finley's sister was a cheerleader for Rivers' high school basketball team. Both men are alums of Proviso East High, a basketball powerhouse in suburban Chicago.

Finley was a decent fit in Boston at least for sentimental reasons, if not financial or basketball-related ones.

The money might be tricky. The last time Finley was a free agent, he elected to stay in San Antonio, agreeing in 2008 to sign for two years at $2.5 million per. The Spurs bought him out of that deal so he could flee to Boston and play for the veteran minimum.

So how much is he worth now, after he's already taken one slashing pay cut and his stock has only sunk lower since?

The Celtics should be pinching every penny. They're already looking at the prospect of a hefty luxury tax bill, and an extra expenditure like Finley might end up amounting to a whole lot of wasted cash.

It's not that Finley is a bad player, or that he's through. Neither is true -- he's got an "old man" game, meaning rather than athleticism and explosiveness, he can rely upon size, strength, instinct and shot-making ability. You watch the guy play, and it looks like he can go until he's 60.

But the Celtics aren't a fit. They need to get younger, and their payroll needs to get trimmer. Finley isn't helping on either front.

Wherever Michael Finley ends up, wish him well. He's a great player with plenty of game left. But don't expect to see much of him in Boston down the line.
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He could always help fill out the Miami roster for the minimum salary. He’d be valuable insurance piece when either Wade or Lebron go down with an injury.

by Alamo on Jul 17, 2010 12:51 PM CDT reply actions  

I actually wouldn’t mind him back as insurance. But the problem is Pop might give him too many minutes over his young players like Anderson or Temple.

by Chris9_20_21 on Jul 17, 2010 12:58 PM CDT reply actions  

At this point, he wouldn’t. However, situationally, for a clutch 3-point shot, he’d be solid.

by grego21 on Jul 17, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he was unhappy with minutes last year he’d be really unhappy this year.

by doggydogworld on Jul 17, 2010 2:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Perhaps his stint in Boston will help him realize that hes more of a situational player more than anything else. Also hes gotta understand you need unselfish veterans on the team to help the young guys, kinda how Steve Kerr helped Stephen Jackson in 2003. He really could be that type of good influence on the team to understand his role as a player/coach type.

by McSpur on Jul 18, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I miss my zombie……I still want him very badly because he can play the 3 (started there two years ago) and put up double digits on most nights and still played good defense. Isn’t that what we’re looking for right now? A 3 who can shoot 3’s and play defense? Plus Finley already knows the system very intimately and could fit right in (more than can be said of possibly RJ or a guy like James Jones)

I really would love to have Finley back in the fold, but only at LLE/vet minimum and if we don’t get Jones/Barnes/Jefferson

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Jul 17, 2010 3:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Nope. I can deal with old and slow, but he wanted out last year. What if things turn out that he does not get minutes again this year and wants more? That makes both parties unhappy and has a negative effect on chemistry.

'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)

by swgeek on Jul 17, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

i just want my zombie back, is that so wrong? :(

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Jul 17, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

You little Sunkist freak! You know I love you, but saying that Finley can still play good defense is like saying that Sunkist is superior to all other sodas. You know it’s just not true.

by CapHill on Jul 17, 2010 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

but saying that Finley can still play good defense is like saying that Sunkist is superior to all other sodas. You know it’s just not true. so true and I’m a closet Sunkist lover. How I wish to one day come forth to the world and proclaim I too use the orange nectar of the gods to quench my thirst for only Sunkist has the capabilities to quench my powerful San Antonian thirst. Please allow me to be your apprentice oh wise master and teach me the ways of the almighty Sunkist. How I one day wish to bask in the Sunkistian Valhalla and drink from the orange fountain of heroes. Oh Sunkist how I compare to the to a mid-summer sunset; the fireflies dancing in the distance like the bubbly tangy suds dance upon my taste buds and purify me from the malevolent ways of all other soda/fountain drink brands. Oh mighty Sunkist, I drink only from you. I CapHill have embraced the ways of your almighty sweet orangy goodness through the wise teachings of KA1Z3R who trains me when he’s not busy coaching his amazing basketball team, the Fighting Sunkists. Forgive me almighty Sunkist for ever contradicting your ways.

FIFY

And don’t worry, the Great Sunkist forgives you and has saved you a seat before the fountain in Sunkistian Valhalla.

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Jul 18, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

@McDonald The Fighting Sunkists sign G/F Michael Finley to vet minimum. Smart move, I hear the Zombie enjoys Sunkist with Michael Wilbon’s brain.

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Jul 18, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Intense GOL there. 10 on the roflmometer scale

Dejuan BLAAAIIIIIIRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!

by beastage on Jul 18, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know how you referred to me as the older sibling in this thread? You just raised the bar for bratty, younger siblings everywhere. :)

by CapHill on Jul 19, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol good thing or bad thing?

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Jul 19, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

if your me, its a very bad thing.

Dejuan BLAAAIIIIIIRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!

by beastage on Jul 19, 2010 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

but I am raising the bar so that’s gotta be a good thing

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Jul 20, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Spurs bought him out of that deal so he could flee to Boston and play for the veteran minimum.

They bought out the rest of the year? When he was the one that wanted to leave? That is beyond classy of the Spurs. TBH I don’t feel the love for Findog that everyone else does, probably as I was not around for his contributive years and it slightly rubs me the wrong way that he wanted out in the middle of the middle of the season.

'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)

by swgeek on Jul 17, 2010 5:01 PM CDT reply actions  

I’m ok with it. He helped the Spurs when they need it most. He got injured earlier in the season and his shot didn’t come back that well.

Buying him out was a good thing.It forced Pop to put more pressure on other guys. And so some guys did show up like Hill in the 2nd half of the season for instance. Mason Jr. finally had the opportunity, but didn’t really do too well.

by grego21 on Jul 17, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Buyouts are a negotiation. I think you could buy someone out for $1 if they really wanted to go.

by doggydogworld on Jul 18, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good points. If Finley had been here we would probably have played him a lot more and maybe ended up giving Mason another chance this year.

'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)

by swgeek on Jul 17, 2010 5:21 PM CDT reply actions  

aargh! Sorry, reply fail again. This was in response to grego21 above.

'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)

by swgeek on Jul 17, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let the Past Be The Past

I got love for finley,but c’mon…..

Its time to move on

by kingjaffe on Jul 18, 2010 9:32 AM CDT reply actions  

He can always retire as a Spur in my book, but get regular rotation minutes? No way.

FinDog might be suffering from the usual stubborness that athletes show when they’re way past their prime. They still believe they can show those young ‘uns a thing or two, see other old players like Nash and TD still keeping up, but then try to avoid the reality that Father Time has finally caught up with them. If this is the case then I’m sad for Fin. I hope he realizes that retiring now isn’t so bad an option because he already got his ring.

Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.

by silverandblack_davis on Jul 19, 2010 6:33 AM CDT reply actions  

He wouldn’t get any rotational minutes. After his injuries stopped him from shooting, he increasing received less minutes. Although, for any last game shots, he should be the 1st shooter you think of, as of now.

Spurs right now don’t have a lot of clutch shooting outside of Manu, so you need at least one more guy. Anderson is a rookie and Temple is basically a rookie too. And Bonner needs other guys to take away attention since his release is slow.

by grego21 on Jul 19, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I forgot about Hill, which would be another good choice, but I’d still rather have Finley taking the last shot if it’s not Manu.

by grego21 on Jul 19, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks

But no thanks. Finley will always get love from me but it is time to move in a different direction. Give the young guys some run. You know what strikes me as funny about the Finley situation? He left the Spurs because he wasn’t getting playing time and then goes to Boston where he didn’t get any playing time either. especially in the playoffs.

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Jul 19, 2010 8:33 PM CDT reply actions  

I wouldn’t want him to take a second of Anderson’s playing time, or from any of our other wings, for that matter. Really, what reason would we have to put him in? Too much young talent to deny them PT. If we sign Gee, Hairston, and Temple, it would only be appropriate to play one of them whenever a spot minute might hypothetically arise for Findog.

"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair

by Manu ex Machina on Jul 19, 2010 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

I’d like for the Spurs to play Anderson, Gee, Hairston, Temple, Neal, etc. early in the regular season so that the coaching staff can assess what they’ve really got. If they feel the team still needs certain roles filled for a championship/playoff run, there still will be time to find vets willing to come into the system as role-players and contribute. You know that Finley — even if he’s not on anyone’s roster — will stay in shape hoping to get that call from the FO. Heck, I think Robert Horry still stayed in shape all last year waiting for the call that never came. :(

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Jul 22, 2010 11:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Nah, Horry was busy making Pizza Hut commercials.

"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair

by Manu ex Machina on Jul 23, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

They have to. The Spurs team doesn’t have the veteran set they used to. And Pop of course wants to limit Duncan/Manu and Parker (to some extent) in overall minutes used in the game.

by grego21 on Jul 24, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Billy Ocean is a Free Agent, why don’t we just pick him up?

by Big50 on Jul 23, 2010 2:03 PM CDT reply actions  

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