Project Splitter: Phase 1
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jun 4, 2010 11:07 PM CDT
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Tiago Splitter is a 6'10" 245 pound, 13pt/5reb, Euroleague MVP. His rights were drafted in 2007 by the San Antonio Spurs. But after many expensive contract offers by Euroleague teams, Tiago has been merely a tease. Buzz has been that Tiago will finally come over to join the Spurs this off season. Help us help the Spurs front office by showing Tiago how much we need him.
If you do not know much about Tiago, please read bj1der's excellent writeup on him.
What I am asking from you, PtR readers, is to help me compose the ultimate bribe article to Tiago. I will be purchasing a domain name to forward to a finalized edition of a story here on PtR. I would like your help writing the blurbs, and I would like to hit the following subjects:
- Why come to San Antonio?
- Include any YouTube videos promoting awesome Spursage™ including, but not limited to, Memorial Day Miracle, Manu's near horizontal layup against the playoffs against the Suns, Timmeh's three pointer in the same game, etc etc etc.
- The Spurs fans in general are a class of their own. We can out cheer and out support any Euroleague arena at the AT&T Center any day. Things like that.
- Team mates, coaching staff.
- What's in it for him?
- Potential ring
- Being on a worldwide stage, not just Europe.
- Bribes
If any of you can help contribute blurbs, YouTube videos (by yourself or anyone else), Photoshopped images, whatever it may be, contribute them below. Please keep them positive (no trolling) and help me get this beast of a basketball player in silver and black.
The deadline for submissions into the story is on June 11th
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Oh. My. God.
Please tell me that all these Splitter articles have been a deliberate orchestration of ojom on PtR’s part.
...!!
the mojo reversal?
Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan
You can reverse-jinx. So I guess you can reverse-mojo too.
If that IS what he meant, then I smell the makings of a new entry. But first, I’ll need confirmation and, hopefully, some background or at least a definition.
Regardless, I’ve gone from being mildly interested in his reply, to actively hoping transgojo will log back in asap and resolve the mystery.
Be careful; apparently I'm unrelenting in my bonhomie.
Ok, I researched it and it looks like TLO started ojom here</a in the heyday of the “The Mojo’s Dead” crowd.
Be careful; apparently I'm unrelenting in my bonhomie.
First, I may have been exaggerating. But it just seemed like there was a Tiago Splitter post appearing every other day on the front page. I don’t see that as a terrible thing, but I thought there was some kind of “reverse mojo” going on. Or ojom, as TLO brilliantly put it.
...!!
by transgojobot on Jun 8, 2010 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I was going to say if he went to San Antonio he would get a free burrito but then I saw the no trolling thing so don’t pay attention to this comment.
Alright then, back into the shadows.
I did a lot of soul searching. I didn't find anything.
Anybody can offer burritos…how about we throw in some barbacoa w/fresh pico….maybe some carna guisada w/some fajitas on the side w/fresh home made flour tortillas….DANG!!! I went & made myself hungry…got to do a food run, ya’ll….see ya!!!!
by titansfan4ever on Jun 5, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, barbacoa & barbeque
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jun 6, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, you have heard that the way to a man’s heart is through his stomach, right? Ah, but in this case I fear that it is through his wallet, no?
by titansfan4ever on Jun 7, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I’m not saying he’s definitely coming but:
a) every single article I read in the Spanish press about his situation includes a variation of this phrase: “everyone’s aware of his desire to play in the NBA”.
b) he’s still under contract for next season with Caja Laboral and it’s president has stated that it’s either transitioning to the NBA or staying with Baskonia, which makes the whole Real Madrid thing tougher (though not impossible).
c) European and South American players often take a different approach to making the jump to the NBA. Not so long ago, for a South American to make it to the NBA was extremely hard, so most players Tiago’s age grew up worshiping the NBA and would love a chance to making it there.
So while I think nothing is decided yet I wouldn’t be surprised to see Tiago wearing silver and black next season. But I guess your article couldn’t hurt. So this is my suggestion: show him Manu running the PnR with Blair and say “that could be you”.
show him Manu running the PnR with Blair and say "that could be you"
I’m still unsure as to who will be doing the passing though, Splitter or Blair?
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
Blair/Splitter PnR? Make it happen.
Free Tiago Splitter!
by Tim C. on Jun 5, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
10 bucks says Splitter stays in europe after getting a lucrative offer San Antonio was unable to match.
Ioannis Bourousis, anyone ?
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
I don’t really think you can equate the two players..
The difference is that Bourousis didn’t have a history of saying that he wanted to play in the NBA. He briefly flirted with the Spurs while in the middle of contract negotiations with his team, where Tiago has been talking about moving stateside for years.
Be careful; apparently I'm unrelenting in my bonhomie.
Sounds like while Bour was briefly flirting with the Spurs, Tiago has been flirting with the Spurs for years, with the net result of getting more money in Europe. I really think it goes down to how ambitious the guy is. If he thinks he could become a superstar, it makes sense for him to move to the NBA. Otherwise, it makes sense for him to stay as a superstar in Europe instead of being a role player in the NBA.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
Not sure if you’ve ever heard the back-story on Tiago’s decision to stay in Europe and not sign with the Spurs in ‘08, and I don’t want to go over it all again needlessly (but absolutely will if requested) but the short version is that there were significant non-basketball related reasons for him to stay. Those personal issues are no longer in play, and so his path to the U.S. is much more probable now.
Be careful; apparently I'm unrelenting in my bonhomie.
I am not blaming him for staying, he should do what he thinks is the best for him, his career and his life. If he wants to come, this summer seems to be a pretty good time to come, when he has some experience in Europe, but still young and can become a great NBA player. But may be Europe is the better fit for his talents or for his life. Whatever it is, it’s entirely his decision, he can come or he can stay.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
The reason he stayed in eruope was because his sister was dying.
GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2011 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)
Yes, I remember hearing about that, and this is very sad of course. Now he may be getting comfortable in Europe, being Euroleague MVP and all. And he may actually get more money in Europe, at least in the next few years. So I totally see, why he may want to stay, and I can also see, why he may want to come.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
I seriously don’t think he cares whether he’s a star or not.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Maybe not, but if he cares about $$$, then he stands to make a fortune in endorsements & merchandising if he becomes a star in the NBA.
by titansfan4ever on Jun 7, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
It would very unusual for a professional athlete. I don’t know how well you know this guy, I know next to nothing about him, but I assume that every good athlete would like to be the best he could be.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
Without question he would want to be the best he could be but I don’t think it is his goal as a player to be a star. He would want to be the best he can be but I don’t think he would mind being a role player on a winning team.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
I like the idea even though I think these things are more for the fans than they are for the players, who I doubt ever even see these things. If i were to make a suggestion I say show him a picture of Tim Duncan….nuff said.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
I could promise him my girlfriend but she has a hangup against guys who are affaraid of
COMMITMENT!!!!
by Count Down City 210 on Jun 5, 2010 1:55 PM CDT reply actions
…..SCRAP that i’ve already pledged my undying love in TYPICAL “SPURS” fashion.
by Count Down City 210 on Jun 5, 2010 1:59 PM CDT reply actions
Here are my suggestions as follows:
1) Appeal to his inner TEXAN “remember the ALAMO”
2) Promise him TONY & eva’s 1ST BORN…. okay they can keep their first love child (wonder
what might fetch on the EURO black market?)!
3) This guy is what 25ish and from where BRAZIL… we as a city and fan base should appeal
to his red blooded, carnal knlowedge seeking side we could send endless montages of
San Antonio’s finest and most GORGEOUS women. CONTRARY to whatever
(charles DIE UNLOVED barkely) believes this should very rewarding and we could even
a hollow chance @ love! (sweet GOLDDIGGING love!!!)
by Count Down City 210 on Jun 5, 2010 2:18 PM CDT reply actions
What’s the worse that could happen maybe he could fullfill his lifelong dream of becoming a reality
t.v. star, think of the jingle better yet try this on for size “TIAGO DOES SAN ANTONIO” !!!!!!!!
imagine the spinoffs…..
by Count Down City 210 on Jun 5, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I like you
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jun 5, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
2 tiago:
a no go on the mysteries of women? then perhaps men tickle your fancy…. I’m sure San
Antonio could oblige…. No San Antonio?! 4 tha good of the game……………
by Count Down City 210 on Jun 6, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
IF ALL ELSE FAILS:
Resort to plan “FAIL SAFE” we give him the bron bron treatment and hold a city-wide candle
light vidual with those “creepy” SPURS candles you can buy @ POPPA JIMS!
THAT ALL I GOT
by Count Down City 210 on Jun 5, 2010 2:23 PM CDT reply actions
I like you a lot.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jun 5, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Perfect situation
The chance to learn from the Greatest Power forward in history is invaluable. Lets face it with the Spurs he has a chance to be the focal point of the teams inside presence much like timmy is and just like TD learnied from the Admiral , Splitter has that luxuary to grow into the role. I can’t think of any other team in the NBA where he would get the best of both worlds of getting significant minutes, in a competitive team ( playoff bound) while have the luxary of learning from an all time great.
Thanks for your input :]
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jun 5, 2010 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
What can we offer him in $$
I have a question that keeps bugging me, given the importance of signing Splitter, what can the Spurs actually offer him in terms of a long term contract.3 year contract. I know the Spurs have the Mid – level exception of about $ 6 M for next year but given RJ and Tony’s combined $ 25 plus Million are off the book after next season. do the spurs have the option of offering a 3 year deal of say $ 6 M-1st yr, $ 8 M 2nd year, $ 10 M 3rd year. If so that seems to change the picture on the likelyhood of signing Splinter, I know signing Splinter long term reduces the possiblity of re-signing Tony or RJ, but maybe thats a call the Spurs have to make
MLE can be offered with up to 5 years, but realistically the Spurs will probably offer him 2 or 3. First, if he performs well, he can get PAID in the NBA sooner. Second, if he doesn’t do well, he can just head back to Europe without waiting for a long-term contract to run out, and the Spurs aren’t stuck with the bill. The first scenario is more likely, IMO.
Free Tiago Splitter!
Realistically...
There is no way that Splitter is going to sign for $6 mil!!! The Spurs can’t legally pay him any more. He can easily pull down $12 to$15 mil in Europe. The best thing the Spurs can do is trade the rights to him to someone like the Nets who have the cash to pay him and pick up their number three choice in the draft. That way they can pick up a player that can offer help on the boards immediately. The Spurs might also have to throw in another player as well, but at least they’ll get something for Splitter. If Tiago signs with a team in Europe the Spurs can kiss that draft pick goodbye. Better to get something for him while the getting is available.
Show me a player who makes $12-15M in Europe. They don’t exist. Childress signed the most lucrative contract in European basketball 2 years ago, and it’s the equivalent of about $8M. Also, if you’ve been watching the Caja v. Madrid series, you might see that Madrid’s frontcourt(with Tomic at center) is already pretty dominant. What they have a greater need for is perimeter players. Sure, they might make a run at Tiago, but making an offer almost twice as large as the highest paid player in Europe for a position they don’t even have a real need at seems far-fetched to me. The Madrid rumor is just that – a rumor.
Free Tiago Splitter!
How can he not want to play for San Antonio? We have the greatest PF to play the game! We have one of the best PG in TP and one that maybe better some day in GH. Oh yea we also have some guy wearing #20 enough said!
Thanks :]
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jun 5, 2010 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
The Spurs rights to Tiango is huge asset if anything, It’s realistic that a team with cap room picking anywhere from 3 to 10 in the draft would agree to trade for Splitter. I see the Spurs 1st priority is to get Splitter in a Spurs uniform , but if the $ figures don’t make sense then trading his rights for young big talent will be plan B.
This brings up a key question, Who would be a bigger asset to maximize TD;s next 2 years. a 25 year old Splitter of a young PF like Favors
I don’t watch college ball much so I don’t know much about Favors. I hear a lot about how good his defense is but I assume that this means he can block shots and defend the post and rebound. Honestly, If his defensive fundamentals are not as good as Splitter’s then I would take the Brazilian.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Favors is still 18 and he measured 6’ 8-3/4" at the combine. He’s probably got more upside than Splitter but I think he’s a year or two away.
by doggydogworld on Jun 7, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought, we wanted to bring a big big man, not another undersized big man. We have Blair already.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
Dwight Howard measured 1/4" taller with 1/2" wider wingspan at the combine. Dwight’s standing reach was 1.5" higher, both jumped about the same.
by doggydogworld on Jun 7, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you suggesting that he will grow?
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Well, he’s certainly not suggesting that Dwight’s game has.
BLAMMO!
Be careful; apparently I'm unrelenting in my bonhomie.
by J.R. Wilco on Jun 7, 2010 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+!
Yes, i meant to do an exclamation point, or a factorial, if you will.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Jun 7, 2010 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
He could grow a little, he’s still 18 which I think was Dwight’s age at the combine. But Dwight isn’t that much taller now, probably 6’10" w/o shoes.
No one at this year’s combine was a true 7 feet tall. DraftExpress has measurements going back to 2000. There are a dozen or so true 7 barefoot footers but none of them became impact players*. Most I never heard of.
*DE shows Bargnani as 7’0" w/o shoes but the measurement is “unofficial”.
by doggydogworld on Jun 8, 2010 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions
What was Yao Ming’s measurement? 6’4?
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
6’8-3/4"
Actually, Yao did not stoop to attend the combine.
by doggydogworld on Jun 11, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I definetly see Tiango joining the NBA next year, the question is for which team, It’s a choice between signing up with a contender ( the Spurs) with the MLE ,plus waiting out for 2 years for a better offer. Or joining a lottery team and get a 3 to 5 year deal for around $ 8 m a year. Between the 2 options I don’t see how a european offer can realistically top that.
Play in the NBA and you could be the husband to one of these Brazilian models (like Adriana Lima-Jaric):
Ana Beatriz Barros
Ana Claudia Michels
Isabeli Fontana
Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan
I’d offer G-Bundch but Tom Brady beat me to it.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 6, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Great let’s make a website for him hmm…TiagotoSanAntonio.com, Tiagowearedesperate,tiagopleasebeaspur.com?I don’t know.But I like the idea so that he might want SA rather than Europe.Or the most desperate thing we might do is this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za9Okg5fpo or this blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhWkyowduLo or this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3ZJ6FEcTTA
For Sale:Anyone interested with Spurs SF Richard Jefferson? Then just pick up your phone and dial 781-452-0659.Oh,wait its the rejection hot line.(Just joking,we're stuck with him,let's deal with it that we got no other SF and I guess he is much better than what he is showing us.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhWkyowduLo
For Sale:Anyone interested with Spurs SF Richard Jefferson? Then just pick up your phone and dial 781-452-0659.Oh,wait its the rejection hot line.(Just joking,we're stuck with him,let's deal with it that we got no other SF and I guess he is much better than what he is showing us.)
Could someone teach me how to properly perform the artistry of an inamous PtR POST?
by Count Down City 210 on Jun 6, 2010 1:39 PM CDT reply actions
Mabye tomorrow; it being the sabbath and all!!!
by Count Down City 210 on Jun 6, 2010 2:01 PM CDT reply actions
well, just don’t right in the title box and this might help you learn the intricacies of the PtR:
http://www.poundingtherock.com/pages/ptr-lexicon
Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan
Globalization is the in thing right now, play in the NBA and you’ll be immensely globalized, look at Lebron.
Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan
+1
Good point
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jun 8, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
- things referring to Duncan and Robinson as the twin towers along with a list of all the bigs who have been in SA since Robinson retired
- the press from when SA got Duncan to stay and run to Orlando
- the Carver and George Gervin Academy websites
+2
Good point *2
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jun 8, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Come or go, I am so ready for the end to the Splitter saga.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jun 12, 2010 1:31 AM CDT reply actions
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