2010 NBA Free Agentpalooza
by Tim C. on Jun 30, 2010 11:00 PM CDT
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The other day, Wayne prepared us for what to expect from the Spurs during free agency. Since then, there has been a rather surprising development in San Antonio, and the Spurs' need for a small forward has been increased exponentially. Also, it would be really nice if we heard from Tiago Splitter today.
Well, once this post is published, the 2010 NBA Free Agency season will have officially begun. Please use this thread to discuss any developments or rumors that you hear. The NBApocalypse has begun.
I'll start things off, with a little tweet from Yao Ming.
@ChrisBosh, Hey Chris, hopefully you'll play with us (Rockets) next season. I'll be healthy and I'd really look forward to playing together
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GOL, Barney. How tall is he, by the way? He could provide some useful size in the paint.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 1, 2010 2:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Too soft.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
True, plus he would have the worst wingspan in the game.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 2, 2010 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I’d like to let everyone know of the recent developments with RMJr
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jun 30, 2010 11:09 PM CDT reply actions
JMcDonald_SAEN
Now hearing most likely scenario is RJ returning to #spurs at a more palatable contract. Stay tuned …
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
I swear this is all something RC and Pop figured out three years ago.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jun 30, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Never doubted the logic of it.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jun 30, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I would be ecstatic if RJ signs with us for less money now but a long term contract. It is a win-win for everyone and buys RJ immunity from any criticism from my part at least till mid season.
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
by LasEspuelas on Jun 30, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
hey tim c !!
do you think if he resigned w/ the spurs our f.o will try and trade him? or do you think theyll get smart and make plays for him/or posibly 6th man? i think it shows great character on RJ’s part in wanting to persevere through the intricate spurs system while helping out mr holt.
*****LE0NArD'0******
omg omg omg….wait, has ANYTHING happened yet? this is a major letdown.
free malik hairston!
perth wildcats - 2009/2010 nbl champions baby!
by sleep research facility on Jun 30, 2010 11:28 PM CDT reply actions
Nikola Pekovic signed a 3 year 13 Million dollar deal with the T-wolves!!! WOOOHOOOOOO!! What the fuck am I doing awake?? To self: Go to bed you idiot!!
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
by LasEspuelas on Jun 30, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
Wild
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 30, 2010 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
“tell that bitch to be cool!!!”
"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo
by Manuwar on Jul 1, 2010 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
“be cool hunny bunny”
"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo
by Manuwar on Jul 1, 2010 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
One Mike Miller, please.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 1, 2010 12:16 AM CDT reply actions
Make it a round 4 all the good people @ PtR!
HERE HERE — TO 2010-2011
by Count Down City 210 on Jul 1, 2010 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions
FFFFFUUUUUUU
From Woj:
Mike Miller is turning into hot property, league executives say. He can expect offers starting north of mid-level exception in 1st year.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 1, 2010 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Whatever your views people, can we keep the political stuff out of PtR? I come here to get away from that stuff, not hear more of it. Thanks.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 1, 2010 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Communism rules!!! Can’t wait for the return of Communism
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
enough
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 1, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
With respect, why aren’t you over telling people to stop when a picture of George Bush gets posted? Be consistent at least.
I didn’t appreciate that picture either. This has nothing to do with political stance because every time someone brings up politics, drama ensues.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 1, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
not a polictial stance just though it 2 be funny.
ooooops, sorry no offense!!
by Count Down City 210 on Jul 1, 2010 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions
oh wow sorry PtR didn’t mean to a open bag of worms.
will never happen again!!!!
just tryin 2 have a frosty one with the PREZZZZ. my mistake didn’t mean anything by it
2 each his own I’m SORRY!
by Count Down City 210 on Jul 1, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Apology accepted, at least by me, but I hold no power around here. I thought it was pretty funny in reference to Mike Miller, though.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 1, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanx that’s how I meant it.. BUT I guess it wasn’t KOSHER
APPROPRIATE overall? Thank you & again I’M SORRY for
losing the focus on whats important, THE SPURS!!!
by Count Down City 210 on Jul 1, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like Houston is making a push for Bosh as well
AKA: Linix129, sw12
by Sean Wunderlich on Jul 1, 2010 12:49 AM CDT reply actions
EVERYONE but us, or R we?
Sighn ‘n’ trade anyone?
by Count Down City 210 on Jul 1, 2010 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions
We have no trade chips other than Tony
AKA: Linix129, sw12
by Sean Wunderlich on Jul 1, 2010 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions
realistically we may very well already be a major player in FA dangling RJ on the end of a very
long hook!
by Count Down City 210 on Jul 1, 2010 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I’m sure RJ is more appealing to an opposing GM’s rather than
losing BOSH, STOUDEMIRE, ETC…..
by Count Down City 210 on Jul 1, 2010 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Apparently I suck at evaluating talent. Either that or the age thing is really in play here. Am I the only one who thinks Bosh is NOT the best big-man free agent? Give me Boozer over Bosh.
"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo
I think Bosh is more versatile than Boozer, and he’s younger. Bosh is also a lot longer, but I’m inclined to believe Boozer probably has the better post game as Bosh is something of a face-up player.
If Hoopshype is to be believed, the Spurs will have just north of $52.5M of salary going into a year with a projected cap of $56.1M according to ESPN. This means that they have about $9M to play with inclusive of the MLE. I really don’t see them signing any big names, and personally I think that there are a number of solid players to be had. I’m not going to bank on Splitter coming to the states, but it’d be great if he does, if not, then I think we need to address the big man issue with the bulk of the MLE. As a reminder, the current Spurs roster only has 8 players, they’ll need to sign at least 5 more, so easy with the whole busting the bank thing. Let’s say we can nab two at the Vet’s minimum, that’s still $9M for 3 players, I say we spend the bulk on a solid big man to start next to Timmy (no knock on McDyess but not really cutting it). See if we can land an FA like Brendan Haywood or Udonis Haslem, maybe even try for someone like Channing Frye, heck I’d even go for Zydrunas Ilgauskas or Jermaine O’Neal. Then see if we can steal an underrated wing ala Ronnie Brewer or something.
Poor Man's GM @ poormansgm.blogspot.com
Fundamentally Sound: Much Ado About the Spurs @ fundamentally-sound.blogspot.com
If you are under the cap you dont get the MLE. A big downer
"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"
If you are the amount of the MLE under the cap, you don’t get the MLE. We should still have the ability to use the MLE.
What about Dirk? I think Dirk is the 2nd best free agent.
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
Sigh.. I hate waiting until things happen. I want news, dammit!
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 1, 2010 1:42 AM CDT reply actions
Spurs picks ups will completely be in the bylines rather than the headlines, but the benefit could possibly be substantial. We already know #1 priority is Splitter. They’ll probably be chasing guys like James Jones, Dorell Wright and Ryan Gomes to get a more established big forward. They certainly have enough at the 2/smaller 3 position. RJ throws an interesting curve ball into the equation.
Scola: “hey yao, you forgot your knife on my back”
"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"
Lol thats what I was thinking. Maybe if the rockets sign Bosh they’ll look to move a possibly unhappy Scola. Oh how I wish
They can play effing huge ball
to counter all this small-ball
I rarely tweet
I less-rarely write
"I ain't having it" - Buster Posey, hosing folks down
What RJ opting-out means financially
So I’m officially giving up for tonight (lol) but I did my best to lay out what RJ opting out means to the Spurs financially and what kind of options they have should they re-sign him, look to trade him and what it means for Splitter.
On top of all of the Spurs drama, the blog’s format is acting up and preventing me from displaying some quality Ricky Bobby pic action, but hopefully the info will suffice.
Follow us @ReigningBlack
by ReigningBlack on Jul 1, 2010 2:18 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
For Splitter, it means the Spurs can throw the full MLE at him without being deep in luxury taxes. Pretty clear cut on that end.
The only downsides are you lose a nice expiring contract that is tradable and you lose the only true 3 on the team (as of today), although offseason might change that.
Im pretty sure that RJ will stay, maybe for a $25M/3yrs contract?
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
Perhaps they will. Although with guys like Wright, Gomes and James Jones out there, there is a possibility they can get a defensive minded, 3 point shooting forward for a lot cheaper.
Unless, the team and RJ agreed to this idea a while ago and that’s when RJ mentioned possibly opting out. If that’s the case, then they probably verbally agreed to something around there (not officially though).
that number is way too low….RJ wants something like a 5 year $40 million contract…im guessing with the last year as an option
Good call. The big cities don’t care about the $$$, they have passed the point of no return and at the same time they must fill their rosters. To compete we have to be over the cap. I really believe that’s what happened with Steve Kerr and Shaver. Shaver didn’t want to go higher and they could not agree.
by indiancharlie on Jul 1, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
5 years $38.1 million with an 8% increase this year would have Jefferson making $6.5 mil this season. I think that’s a fair guess. That would mean he left about 9 million on the table for this season, saving the Spurs a lot of dough.
"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo
Sounds good, plus we would save some tax money next season.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 1, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t know how that happened above. I was going to comment about how that would also reduce our luxury tax payments for next season as well.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 1, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
$25M/3yrs contract?
Even though that may be a fair price for him, no way he stays with the Spurs for that. That would be like opting out to get two years at $5M each. If he goes elsewhere for that then we know that he opted out just to get the hell out of dodge.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
If the spurs do resign RJ to an extended contract, you can expect the spurs to extend/lengthen manu’s contract for at least the same time duration.
by i luv this site on Jul 1, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Good work, but did non-taxpaying teams really get $5m last year? I thought it was around 3m. And if we pay RJ 7m next year we only save 8m of lux tax. Here’s how I’d look at it assuming we give RJ a 4 yr/35m type of package:
From RJ’s perspective, he gets 35m for 4 years instead of 15m for 1 year. That’s 20m for years 2-4, about what he’d get on the open market.
From the Spurs perspective, they pay 35m over 4 years instead of paying 15m + 8m lux tax + 3m of lost tax-sharing this year. That’s 35m for 4 years vs. 26m for one year. That’s only 9m extra for years 2-4, or about 3m per year. I know some here wouldn’t take RJ for free, but I call that a bargain.
2. The Spurs avoid 8m of lux tax this year and instead collect 3m of tax-sharing
3. The Spurs pay
by doggydogworld on Jul 1, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Oops. Ignore the 2. and 3. garbage at the end.
by doggydogworld on Jul 1, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
The team that (eventually) gets him has won the underpaid-asset-race.
"Mais put… Il est fou ce gars!"
by DOH on Jul 1, 2010 4:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I’m starting to like this Prokhorov character.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 7:12 AM CDT reply actions
hahahahahahahahah
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 1, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I know, right. I was gong to put up a fanshot about that last night, may still do it. If I were LeBron I would go to New Jersey – he wants to be an international mogul and who better to learn from than JayZ and Prokhorov? A big part of me hopes he goes to Miami with Bosh so we can all root against the superteam. Chicago would be dangerous though, he may actually win there.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
If he wants to win, he goes to Chicago. I could see him staying in Cleveland out of loyalty. But the superteam in Miami? You at least need a bench.
I thought the same when Allen and KG went to Boston. I thought their role players would doom their chances. It turns out they won the whole thing, when you have 3 stars you can get quality veterans on the cheap (House, PJ brown, Posey). This is a star league. If KG, Allen Pierce can win the whole damn thing, what do you think Lebron, Wade and bosh could do? They are better and a lot younger.
"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"
I realize that 3 stars can win, but at least the Celtics had guys on the roster (Rondo, Perkins, Powe, Davis, T. Allen). Miami only has TWO players under contract – Chalmers and Beasley. They would have to find a way to then sign at least 7 (decent) players using minimums and exceptions. Not that it couldn’t be done, but it would be difficult, especially as quite a few teams have money to throw around this summer.
KG, Pierce and Ray Allen really elevated the play of those guys. Rondo coming out was thought of as a second string guy, Davis barely got drafted. Perkins and T. Allen really found a niche for themselves playing physical defense. There’s no reason Miami can’t find vets free agents to do the same and use their second round picks to fill out the roster.
With all that said I don’t like Wade and Lebron playing side by side. The chemistry just doesn’t look like it will be there. Who knows.
"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo
That’s a great point about chemistry. Even though they all played for the Olympics, I think it’s hard to have 3 or even 2 franchise superstars, who all want to be the guy on their team, on the same squad. For the sake of the rest of the league (mostly the Spurs) I don’t really want to see a team full of superstars dominating the league. That’s just no fun having one team winning all the time
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Boston had some decent spare parts already though. Rondo was not a lucky accident – they always thought he had great potential and refused to allow any talk of trades for him even before he became a star.
But I do agree that having three major stars will attract quality vets hoping for a ring. The big question is if they can mesh together as a team the way Boston did two years ago.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
Doesn’t hurt that the new arena is going to look pretty sweet.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
unclean edits.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
The Nets have taken over the NY Post… you would think that they would’ve hired someone better to make that blueprint image though… it sucks.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
This wait for the Spurs Free Agency is like waiting for your child to be born.
Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan
Could be worse… We could be Clippers fans. Then it would be like a waiting for your illegitimate child to be born.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 7:18 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
ZING!
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 1, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions
kevinarnovitz: Don’t you get the feeling that the Texas 3 will somehow make out like bandits when it’s all over?
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 7:14 AM CDT reply actions
Y! Free Agency Buzz: Joe Johnson will accept Hawks max offer soon, sources say; Pacers targeting Farmar.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 7:50 AM CDT reply actions
offer is 6-years, $119 million.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I am going to laugh so hard when the Knicks don’t land anyone after clearing all that space for the last few years.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
I do not see them getting LeBron, Bosh or Wade. They screwed up big time hiring D’Antoni (along with other mistakes), and Chicago is probably ecstatic they dodged that bullet. They have a shot at getting Amare, and I will laugh even harder as that does not strike fear in anyone’s heart.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
If I was any of the free agents right now, there is no way in hell I am teaming up with the roster they have there.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 1, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
It’ll be great when all the guys that they could have drafted do really well also. Sucks to be a Knicks fan, even after the Isiah days. Sad because Walsh is a good GM. Hard to clean up an Isiah mess though.
You really thing that Walsh is a good GM?
If you don’t need ACL’s to make it big, you don’t need pinky fingers. - completely deck
now if Parker gets traded, and James is a good sf, then bosh is a not so unthinkable option? But both of those aren’t probably going to happen.
Dejuan BLAAAIIIIIIRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!
Tony isn’t going anywhere yet.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 1, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions
They’ll be able to… but I wonder if they’ll be willing to spend like that.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
I wonder if this make a trade more appealing to RC and Pop (I’m still against it).
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
That’s a good point. With the new CBA in place hopefully he can’t even ask for that much.
"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo
If that’s what Tony demands, he is out of here.
by indiancharlie on Jul 1, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, I keep forgetting ya’ll avoid the bold (subject line)
I hope Manuwar is correct about the new CBA, but I’m concerned that the new market rates mean that we should ship him now…I love TP, but his latest quotes all seem to say that this is the last year for the spurs to make a run…
couple that with all of the teams that have cleared cap space this year (and who won’t land a top player), and I’d say that TP will get several “max” offers next year – possibly 2 from NY based teams.
— WojYahooNBA
G-State restricted free agent Anthony Morrow has slew of interest, including Spurs, Celtics, Lakers, Blazers, Clips and Jazz, sources say.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 10:29 AM CDT reply actions
Pretty damn good shooter. No clue about his defense though.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Kinda hard to play defense though when you’re not asked to.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Kinda hard to play get a read on his defense
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
If the Spurs have a legitimate interest in him, then they must think his shooting is worth the risk and that he’s capable of learning to play better defense.
But sign-and-trade is the only way I see Anthony Marrow going anywhere to most of those teams Woj mentioned.
...!!
by transgojobot on Jul 1, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe Dice? How much does Turiaf make?
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
Almost the same amount ($4,140,000)
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Correction: $4,000,000
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Do the Spurs really still need another guard? Why draft Anderson (who could be better than Morrow) and still try to sign a guard? It just doesn’t make sense to me but I’ll not question the Spurs FO anymore.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Good point.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 1, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
How come him playing for the Warriors automatically makes him a bad defender? By that logic Finley was a great defender with us all his years. Can you imagine that conversation by non-Spurs fans, “Hey we should trade for Michael Finley, how’s he on defense though?” “He’s great – he has been playing for the Spurs.”
Morrow is not the most athletic guy but really busts his ass and he has good length. I think he’d be a great fit but he might cost more than the BAE which is around $2 mil.
"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo
I just meant that he has spent his entire career with Golden State, meaning he hasn’t been schooled in the fundamentals of NBA defense. Could he be a good defender? In the future, yes. But for him to come in and be a good perimeter defender is unlikely. Granted, I didn’t see a lot of the Warriors this year, but I was not impressed by his defense.
But despite what I think of him as a defender, why do we need another guard?
Guys like Morrow have a place on a championship team. He can only shoot, but he is so damn good at it. He may be the best shooter in the league right now. He sucks at everything, but he is young and you could masquerade his defensive ineptitude with a good team.
"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"
He could be the best shooter, except he isn’t. His teammate Steph Curry would probably take that title before he does.
Morrow was ridiculous last year .456% from 3 Curry was a smidgin behind at .437% both of them were proper freaks though averaging over 4 attempts per game.
Thats volume and efficiency.
"When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges."
When did the Warriors break out their new logo? Is it a throwback, or completely new?
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 1, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
blegh….
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually like it, but I’d prefer it to be more Warrior oriented than Golden State oriented.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 1, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like a logo for a real estate agency.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
It’s loosely based on the old The City logo. I like it, especially when you put the uniform number within the circle. But maybe that’s just me.
The rich get richer
If Joe Johnson, who should be hard pressed to crack the top 10 of this summer’s free agents, is getting a max deal, then a lot of teams are about to concentrate a lot of money on just a few people.
This year more than most, I’m seeing a lot of blogs talk about players who “might be willing to take the minimum.” Once the rookie deals are done, it seems like there are only 4 possible salaries in the league: the max, the mid-level exception, the bi-annual exception, and the minimum.
Yes, it’s the owners fault for overpaying 2nd and 3rd tier players every year, but I can guarantee that it’s going to be a huge point of discussion in the collective bargaining agreement. Maybe this was all a plot by the owners to get players thinking that if they’re not the face of the franchise then they’re only worth the minimum.
Bucks are re-signing Salmons to $39M deal(4 years, I think). Sounds suspiciously like RJ’s market value.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
5 year deal, my bad. And why the hell would Milwaukee needs Salmons AND Maggette?
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
+1
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Jul 1, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I wondered this too but think I have an idea.
C- Bogut
PF-Gooden?
SF: Maggette
SG: Salmons
PG: Jennings
It looks like a good starting 5 and i think Salmons has played SG before (correct me if I’m wrong), if not he could still play a tweener role at the 2/3. Like I said this is a good starting 5, minus Gooden of course.
Other possibilities are trade options like the possible RJ and Salmons mentioned by Big50. In which case, yay Spurs!
More than likely I say it’s to try and build the front 5 I have listed above in which case a good supporting cast has been built around Jennings and a few bench signings could make this a dangerous team team that might beat the Hawks.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
that looks like the most packed in line-up ever. None of them can shoot.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
salmons is a good 3 point shooter but gooden and jennings never shoot the ball unless they have it in their hands……
"When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges."
How can you shoot the ball if it’s not in your hands?
If you liked it, then you shoulda put a fifth ring on it.
by day_late_friend on Jul 1, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Because they are unsure of Redd. And Salmons is actually a 2 guard more than a 3.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Possible Boozer to Magic via sign-and-trade in the works that would send Boozer to Orlando for Gortat and either Redick or Pietrus.
Makes sense for both sides. Boozer plays a post-up forward role and Lewis shifts back to SF to give the Magic a more balanced offense with a real post threat other than Howard.
Gortat is now cannon fodder with Kentucky rookie Orton in the fold and the Jazz need a new shooter in the form of either Reddick or Pietrus. This works for both sides and things seem to match up.
SB Nation has the story in their free agent thread.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
Wow, Boozer/Howard would probably complement each other pretty well. That’s a good deal for the Magic.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
Yeah and if this doesn’t go through which I highly doubt at this point, Orlando WILL trade for Arenas and give the usual peanuts and rice to the Wizards (probably Gortat or Reddick)
Orlando with Arenas……because Jameer Nelson is bad?
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
let’s not forget the Jazz in this scenario either. They could end up with a good defensive big man in Gortat to help the bad post defense and a great shooter in Pietrus or Reddick. Jazz also get better here too and as long as they have Derron Williams, anything is possible.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
C’mon, let’s be serious. Jazz would be the clear losers in that deal, player-wise.
I smell death... everywhere.
yeah they’re losers but not total. They still get the shooting help they need coming from the Land of 3-Point Wonders and they get a good pure defense big with the occasional big dunk here and there.
Jazz are a worse team in the end for sure, but not as bad as they would have been.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
to a MUCH lesser degree. Bass would be a good backup for the role though, but should not be your primary post-up PF. Boozer is so good at this that some teams are putting him ahead of Amar’e on their big boards but then again so would I.
Boozer also brings a good post defense options so teams can no longer victimize Lewis’s lack of strength in post defense. No more Garnett bulldozing over Lewis, which would be huge for Orlando come playoffs.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
Bass never got off the bench. Even though he brings (to a lesser degree) what Boozer could bring, they never freed Brandon cause his game didn’t compliment the Magic system, no?
by FreshmakerDTM on Jul 1, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly. The only big who ever saw time off the bench was Gortat. Bass didn’t fit because he didn’t post up consistent enough and didn’t fit in their old PF scheme of shooting from all over (Rashard Lewis)
However now we will see Boozer at PF and Lewis back to the natural SF spot, making for a much more traditional offense and a more balanced unit then just chuck the three dump to Howard.
With the scheme now fitting Bass, look for him to get much more minutes and do better in the system. Actually Orlando will be a far better team from this. Look at their starters and second unit
C: Howard/Orton
PF: Boozer/Bass
SF: Lewis/Barnes (he’s an RFA I believe and will most likely be resigned for his defense)
SG: Carter/whoever stays between Pietrus and Reddick
PG: Nelson/Williams
Good defense, great post game, great three point shooting. Very dangerous team.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
cool, the jazz can get two more white guys with gortat and reddick
by BlaseE on Jul 2, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
truehoop reporting that talks between Amar’’’’’e and Phoenix have broken off. They call it a long shot for him to remain there.
Rockets trying to get Bosh and might actually have some of his interest. This will at least slow the locomotive progress of Bosh to Miami (the one roadblock is Miami doesn’t want to lose Beasely)
Yao is even trying to get him to come over. Rockets are selling hard to Bosh right now and they’re also looking at Amar’e.
I don’t think Bosh goes because he’d struggle to get his usual numbers with Yao in the post, but if Bosh just stays pure shooter forward this works nicely. Some say the trade work here is Scola to Raptors because Scola would thus be disgruntled.
But Scola might also stay and other pieces traded so that Scola could stay as a great backup and bench option to bolster a very weak Rockets bench.
Either way, Rockets are determined to get a big man and there’s ludicrous rumors from bad sources that Pierce to Rockets is more likely than we think.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
one roadblock is Miami doesn’t want to lose Beasely
Are you sure about that? I could have sworn they were trying to dump him and there were no takers.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
actually if Bosh comes in they want Beasely there to learn under Bosh (yeah great mentor) so he can play better. It doesn’t make much sense to me but they’re holding on to him as tight as they can.
But if Bosh decides he’s done waiting and wants to go to the more compliant partners in Houston, Miami will throw Beasely away in a heartbeat. But we definitely can’t rule Houston out of the Bosh circus though.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
Finally, there’s talk of Amar’e possibly going to New Jersey to make a tough frontcourt of Lopez and Stoudamire. But really how “tough” is that frontcourt?
They’re saying he might be swayed to go to the Knicks but…..they’d have to lose Bird Rights on David Lee and that doesn’t leave much of a team left for Amar’e and i think he knows this.
Also Dallas is flipping out like crazy over Dirk being in NY. He could just be visiting Jason Kidd, but Dallas is going crazy over the fact he might go to the Knicks to not be paired with Lee or to New Jersey.
Calm down Dallas, you’ll still keep Duncan’s punching bag because there’s no where better that can pay him.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
so would I but then again I’m 15 and broke.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
Would it count towards the salary cap if we fundraise to get Dirk? We pay out of our pockets. Call it the middle class fan exception
by NinjaRabbi on Jul 2, 2010 12:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Rudy Gay has agreed to a five-year, $81.6 million deal with Memphis, including a player option on fifth, his reps at Octagon confirmed to Y!
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 2:20 PM CDT reply actions
Rudy Gay has agreed to a five-year, $81.6 million deal with the Lakers sister company, including a player option on fifth, his reps at Octagon confirmed to Y!
by FreshmakerDTM on Jul 1, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
What are these front offices thinking?
LMAO
Rudy Gay, Joe Jonson, Darko Milicic and Nikola Pekovic didn’t even need ski mask! So much for the looming CBA.
Eric went ahead and broke down some realistic BAE/LLE candidates for the wing position, so stop on by and let him now what you think (and don’t go easy on him ;-)).
Here’s the link (and, honestly, let ’em have it! :-P).
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My FA hopefuls:
Dorell Wright
Ryan Gomes
Not much outside of that and the obvious Splitter. I also hope to see Bogans and Bonner back for sheer depth and scheme familiarity.
Oh and I say LeBron to Chicago, Bosh-Wade tandem in Miami, Pierce and Allen in Boston, Boozer to orlando, Amar’e goes to either Jersey or Houston, RJ comes back to San Antone
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
Want to add James Jones to that list. He’s a mix of both Gomes and Wright.
Wright is more athletic/upside than Gomes, but Gomes is a great team guy.
More athletic than Gomes.
Better locker room guy than Wright.
I knew I was missing someone, thanks. Even if we get RJ back we need one of Jones, Wright, or Gomes. We have some depth options on the bench at SF, but I’d feel better if we actually had two true SF.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
true that but i doubt they think highly since Bogans got way more minutes than Hairston at SF
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
Watching 2003 playoffs Spurs vs Suns…..Robinson just jack hammered Marion to knock a rebound lose. Marion just sat on the ground and complained. If only we could find another center that rebounded and played defense so soft…..HA!
"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo
who’s this Manu character? :P
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
C’mon Timmeh you just need to make 2 fts and we win
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
we suck™
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
DAMN Skip Bayless just hammered Lebro on OTL 4 his sweep in the ’07 finals.
GO SPURS GO gotta love Skip……….
by Count Down City 210 on Jul 1, 2010 2:55 PM CDT reply actions
Skip loves San Antonio, he always has.
by Ohio Spurs Fan on Jul 1, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Chad Ford said that NJ is the new frontrunner for Lebron. Also, either Tony Parker or George Hill will be traded by last Thursday.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
by Tim C. on Jul 1, 2010 3:08 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Lmao, last Thursday
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 1, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I still am hearing that LeBron is hearting Chicago still but NJ just got themselves within a Russian sports car away from LeBron.
Russian sports car……the Stalin Speedster?
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
Anna Chapman. Now, I’d love to see her spy camera videos.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Jul 2, 2010 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions
The Spurs have called free-agent forward-center Matt Bonner to re-iterate their desire to bring him back.
“The Spurs called last night,” Bonner’s agent, Kenny Grant said this afternoon. “I think they’re interested. Hopefully, it works out.”
An unrestricted free agent, Bonner’s preference remains to return to San Antonio, where he has spent the past four seasons. He trails only the Big Three of Tim Duncan, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili on the list of longest-tenured Spurs,
Bonner, whose unique skill set as a 3-point shooting big is a coveted commodity, has also taken calls from Dallas, Denver and Chicago in the early stages of free agency
-mysa
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 3:30 PM CDT reply actions
With the way these dumbass FA signings are going, Matt may get a 5-year, $25 million offer.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
To that, I say “hell no”.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
Ha! Not from us, of course.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
It would be hilarious if the Mavs lose Dirk and end up with Matty.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 1, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Dallas just wants him for inside information. Little do they know Pop would forcibly erase the part of Matt’s brain that contains any Spurs knowledge and the part that controls bowel functions.
Both are supported by tactical reasons, I assure you.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
what about a sign and trade for wilson chandler, similar player to jefferson, but with better defense and more upside. don’t know why the knicks would do this though, and don’t think the salaries match either.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
RF.
supposed to be a reply to cap’s blockquote from WojYahooNBA
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
and nobody even said “achoo!”
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
Kazumtite.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Jul 1, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Y! Sports’ Latest Free Agency Buzz: Richard Jefferson eyes return to Metropolitan N.Y. area: http://tinyurl.com/34uvljx
SOB.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
This better be a sign-and-trade. We can’t just let RJ walk for nothing – it cripples us at a position that was already weak.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
$8-10 mill???
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure most of us could do a better job than some of these GM’s. Of course some of us would trade Tony for a song and a draft pick, but I digress.
Tony for a second round pick and 2 hinder songs.
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by SpursfanSteve on Jul 1, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Bruce Bowtie Bowen, please come back!!
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
On the sign-and-trade scenario
What the Spurs would likely get is a protected second-rounder (inconsequential) and a trade exception that could be worth anywhere from $3-8M in value — this would allow the Spurs to acquire a player of the same value as the exception for nothing more than another inconsequential second-rounder. Think Camby to the Clippers or how RJ to New York or Jersey would be.
It’s no done deal — as LBJ could go to the Nets and dash that particular scenario — but even then the Knicks and D’antoni would seem a decent possibility.
So pray for a sign-and-trade to NY or NJ, Spurs fans. The Spurs could potentially make out like bandits.
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by ReigningBlack on Jul 1, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
How about we use that extra 15 mill that RJ has just left on the table and sign Matt Barnes, anybody that pretends to throw a ball in kobe’s face is ok with me. Hes a great defender, shoots the 3 pretty well and would add always needed toughness off the bench.
It does not work like that, we are over the cap even with RJ opting out. Also Kobe will be looking to destroy Barnes next season, so no thanks.
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
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"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
its ok
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Can I still tryout? Johnson $119M, R Gay $80M, Gooden $32M, Darko $20M…I can high-five better than Darko. I’m worth $22M? This is absurd.
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
"I mean, Dartmouth really sucks and Cornell only beat us by 18. Temple will beat the hell out of Cornell. Promise." -- Me
Thank God we signed Manu before the free agency
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
No kidding. If FO’s can convince themselves that 3rd banana Joe Johnson is worth the max and underwhelming Rudy Gay is worth 80M, there’s no question that someone would have offered Manu more than we would be willing/able to match.
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
"I mean, Dartmouth really sucks and Cornell only beat us by 18. Temple will beat the hell out of Cornell. Promise." -- Me
And it’s the OWNERS calling for the waaaaaagh-bulance, during the CBA negotiations? ::blairlol::
...!!
by transgojobot on Jul 1, 2010 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I know it’s not official, but you can basically pencil in Bonner because his agent said today, “‘Matt wants to be a Spur, and I’d imagine they want him back, too,’ Grant said.”
And with the new development of “‘The Spurs called last night,’ Bonner’s agent, Kenny Grant said this afternoon. ‘I think they’re interested. Hopefully, it works out.’”, I’d call it a pretty much done deal.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 1, 2010 4:58 PM CDT reply actions
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
I know he’s an asset and he brings a unique talent to the team, that being a big that can stretch the floor, but I hate him. In my mind, we have Tim and Tiago starting, with Dice and Blair backing them up. Do we really need to spend money of a 5th big guy? And won’t he just take important development minutes away from DeJuan? Damn it all. I would much rather the Spurs roll the dice with those four bigs and try to get a steal at the end of free agency when all the bonehead GM’s are out of money cause they thought locking up guys like Gooden and Darko was a good idea.
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
"I mean, Dartmouth really sucks and Cornell only beat us by 18. Temple will beat the hell out of Cornell. Promise." -- Me
But we can’t really get a steal can we? I mean we are going to have the minimum or the LLE.
Theres 6 teams out there with humungous gaping holes in their rosters and piles of cash.
We get Tiago we really don’t need a 25 minutes a game guy, we need a 7 to 8 minutes a game guy who can come in when people get injured or we need a particular skill set. Bonner really is that dude.
Not to mention you don’t have to work him into the system using real actual game time because he already knows the rotations inside and out.
"When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges."
we need a 7 to 8 minutes a game guy
The problem is that we’ve been hoping he’d phase into this role for 3 years or so now, and he keeps hanging around getting more PT than he should because he’s a nice guy, hustles, knows the system, and Pop has a fetish for his skill set.
He’s gotten lots more play time because the Spurs were short on players who could offer things Bonner did. So they had to live with Bonner’s downfalls. Slowly but surely, Spurs are filling in those gaps. With a few more pick ups in the offseason, they could utilize Bonner, specially during the season.
…wanted 2 see what Marcus Haislip could have done.
by Count Down City 210 on Jul 2, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
….. but I hate him
Really? We’ve have never guessed!
by doggydogworld on Jul 1, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I like Bonner, BUT he’s never going to be a rotation player on a championship team. I think he represents what has been wrong with the Spurs for the past 2 years
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
If we are going to be serious contenders Bonner should not be on the team.
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
Matt was a rotation player on a championship team (’07) I think he can be quite effective in small quantities.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
he was the victory cigar
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
In 2007, Bonner played in 9 of the 20 playoff games for a total of 25 minutes. That should be, and was, his role on a championship squad.
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
"I mean, Dartmouth really sucks and Cornell only beat us by 18. Temple will beat the hell out of Cornell. Promise." -- Me
i’d say double that, and i’m still ok with it. 18 of 20 for a total of 50 minutes. I’d even be OK with 18/20 for 10 minutes a game.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Jul 1, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed. Bonner isn’t as bad as people make him out to be. Fact is he is one of the purest shooters from outside at the big man position. Plus he’s very low maintenance. Doesn’t complain about minutes or role. He just does what is asked of him. And that is to just shoot when he is open
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
“Fact is he is one of the purest shooters.”
Never refer to Bonner as ‘pure’ again. Ray Allen is a pure shooter. Bonner has 4 hitches in his shooting form. He basically has to wind his ugly shot up and then hit the release button. He shoots from his hip. He runs like a duck. He’s 6’10" and he has a wingspan of 6’8.75". Pure? How about unconventionally grotesque yet somehow accurate.
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
"I mean, Dartmouth really sucks and Cornell only beat us by 18. Temple will beat the hell out of Cornell. Promise." -- Me
Pure meaning accurate. I didn’t say his form was perfect but form doesn’t always determine accuracy. (see Reggie Miller or Michael Redd) Dude is a career 40% shooter from deep. No other Spur holds that distinction. I just don’t think he gets enough credit.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Fred, feel free to check out the Quotes page which has been updated to reflect your recent awesomeness.
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Ha, thanks. I thought that was one of my better Bonner rants, (and I’ve had many.)
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
"I mean, Dartmouth really sucks and Cornell only beat us by 18. Temple will beat the hell out of Cornell. Promise." -- Me
…oh and can someone look up who the Nets and/or Knicks have on their radars? Because there is a possibility of a 3 way trade with RJ.. Doesn’t have to be just the Spurs and Nets or Spurs and Knicks (duh)
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 1, 2010 5:00 PM CDT reply actions
Knicks looking at LBJ and Amar’e for the most part
Nets looking at LBJ and Bosh
Both rumored to be trying to sway Dirk but I’m not buying it.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
Nets also looking at Lee if no Bosh
"When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges."
I’ve heard this as well but I can’t see Lee not ending up back in NY this year. That has to be part of the grand New York plan.
Though on another site I have them only picking up Shaq and resigning Lee and McGrady in free agency.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
May I have your attention please. According to ESPN and others Phil Jackson has announced that he will indeed return to coach the Lakers. (I know he’s not a player but he was an important free agent.)
OK, that is all. Carry on.
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
how many more times do you think he’ll continue to do this after the season ends?
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
I got no clue. So we will just have to enjoy him whilst we can.
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
by olf on Jul 1, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Say what? Alls we got is the Kobester. (And that softy spanish guy.) You guys & the Celts have all that “Big 3” stuff. I mean how can we hope to compete with that?
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
by olf on Jul 1, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
It’s like malone payton o’neal kobe and co never happened isn’t it.
"When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges."
Woops forgot you also managed to shoehorn Horace Grant into that squad.
"When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges."
Yeah, the Spurs have never signed some savvy vets for just a season of two.
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
by olf on Jul 1, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
savvy vets. :D
If you liked it, then you shoulda put a fifth ring on it.
by day_late_friend on Jul 1, 2010 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Karl Malone & Gary Payton were savvy vets? Yep…
I guess Ron Artest & Lamar Odom are just solid role players…
"When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges."
pretty much.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Jul 1, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
You know that if Odom’s play was anything near approaching something that could be called “somewhat consistent” then the media would call them the Big 3 of LA.
Just because he has the brains to fly under the radar and keep expectations low, doesn’t mean I don’t see what he’s up to.
I’m watching you, Lamar.
If you don’t need ACL’s to make it big, you don’t need pinky fingers. - completely deck
You know I love me some Lamar and I only WISH he was up to something like that. He does a lot of stuff like rebounding, bringing the ball up the floor, keeping the offense running smoothly, plays credible D, great teammate, etc. etc.
But to be honest most of us Laker fans have given up hope that he’ll emerge as more of a consistent scoring threat that it seems he could be.
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
You should be ashamed to be a Lakers fan. Or guilt-ridden. It’s like being a fan of 18th century Americans who irradiated the indigenous population or moved them to special places. Of course they won, they had all the technology.
Grizzlies waive Lester Hudson
I have no idea what this means.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 1, 2010 5:09 PM CDT reply actions
It means atlanta is giving him a max contract
"When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges."
lol
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jul 1, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Jefferson’s return could be immenent, according to McDonald.
I usually trust Woj more than McDonald, but what if they’re both right? (S&T)
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
Is there really a market out there for RJ? He allegedly said he wants to play in either the Knicks or the Nets but I don’t think thoose teams would be interested. The Knicks have two SFs on their roster in Chandler and Gallinari and the Nets had RJ and traded him for Yi and Bobby Simmons.
I think he’ll end up re signing.
I’d trade him for Wilson Chandler and a trade exception, though.
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
He has spent much of his summer in the Spurs’ practice gym, working out personally with head coach Gregg Popovich. Before the season ended, Jefferson spoke often about looking forward to a second season in San Antonio, when he might feel more comfortable with the system.
I LIKE reading that.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 1, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Pop has even talked about working some new stuff in and reinventing some of his system to better fit and occasionally center around RJ.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
Personal time with Pop is quality time.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 1, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
i’ll never forget those summers in the orchard with Pop learning the nuances of the Pro Game.
"When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges."
“There’s no crying in basketball!”, followed by a punch in the face, and a glass of wine.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 1, 2010 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i’ll never forget those summers in the orchard with Pop learning the nuances of the Pro Game.
Ditto. I remember Pop shooting soft melons into peach baskets in the 1880’s, later on he called his creation “Basket Ball”. I hear it’s been a hit in the states and lower Canada for quite some time.
"He has an innate ability of putting the damn ball in the hole." - Pop on Ginobili
Effing T’Wolves.
There were undoubtedly some eyes rolling into the backs of heads in the Spurs’ front office with the Minnesota Timberwolves close to an agreement with European center Nikola Pekovic on a three-year, $13 million contract. The Spurs are negotiating to bring over 2008 first-round pick Tiago Splitter this summer, and Pekovic’s deal promises to elevate Splitter’s leverage.
A 7-foot center from Brazil, Splitter is considered a far superior prospect to Pekovic. The Spurs’ ability to pay Splitter from its midlevel exception and still have some of that money to use on another free agent has been somewhat compromised.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 1, 2010 6:16 PM CDT reply actions
But on a good note, perhaps we can pilfer a decent SF from them just in case RJ bolts.
If the Timberwolves are fortunate enough to sign swingman Rudy Gay(notes), they’re expected to trade either Martell Webster(notes) or Corey Brewer(notes), league sources said.
The T’wolves just used the No. 4 pick in the draft on small forward Wesley Johnson(notes) and acquired Webster in a draft-night trade with the Trail Blazers.
These are all from Woj, by the way.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 1, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
The spurs would be willing to give RJ the most money since he was nice enough to opt out, and we are in need of his services, and we really can’t buy another SF of his caliber. So somewhere in the 8-10 milion per year would be what he might demand from us since he knows we need him a lot more than he needs us.
On the other hand, other teams won’t be paying him that much. He totally underperformed last year and he’ll be lucky if teams give him a deal with 6 million a year. So maybe he does need us as much as we need him.
That being said I don’t know if I want him back. Considering how often he disappeared last year and how often he would make 2-5 points a game, and how I always felt throughout the season that Hairston would be doing so much better, I kind of just don’t want him back. Yes, he will improve, yes, he’s coachable and a nice guy unless you want to marry him, but he’s not mentally tough and doesn’t know how to contribute to his team when he isn’t scoring. Give the Hairy Dog a chance, specially after waiting for 2 years on the bench with those puppy dog eyes of his. Plus he’s got bigger ears.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
not only was nice enough to opt out but we have bird rights so no one can match our offer to him really.
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
so if a team gives him an offer, we’re able to match it or exceed it, and he’ll decide which one he prefers?
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
We can make an offer, but we aren’t given right of first refusal. If he signs with someone else, that’s it. If he were restricted, then we could match the offer sheet within 7 days and he’d be a Spur again, not the case here.
While complacency costs, perseverance pays
I don’t really think he is that necessary. Especially not at 8 million per year for 4 years.
We got bugger all production from him last season. I miss his 15 million dollar expiring for sure, but I do not miss his crap 3 point shooting, his inability to dribble the ball successfully in traffic, his refusal to take it to the hoop, his love affair with settling for mid range jumpers and finally his catastrophically over hyped defensive mindset.
Ok i think i covered everything i wanted to cover there.
"When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges."
http://www.slate.com/id/2258799/
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
by Tim C. on Jul 1, 2010 7:26 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Toronto Raptors have reached agreement to sign centre Amir Johnson to a five-year, $34 million deal, agent Kevin Bradbury tells Y! Sports.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 1, 2010 7:50 PM CDT reply actions
Spurs and Richard Jefferson’s agent have discussed a new deal, but nothing in works. RJ would love return to NY-area, but NJ not interested.
-Woj
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 1, 2010 8:06 PM CDT reply actions
Haha.
Can’t the Toros use a third-string SF?
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
I think in all honesty that R.J has been beset by a serious, serious over inflation of self worth.
I am saying it right here right now that Richard Jefferson becomes the cautionary tale of this years free agency sweepstakes.
"When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges."
I don’t necessarily think that he has a bloated ego (with his performance last season, how could he possibly have one). It was his former employers who overvalued him. (and we kinda did too, seeing that we traded for him.) At worst, RJ (and his agent) is trying to sell himself to anyone who would bite that has money. Although you can’t really catch big fish with bad bait.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
We overvalued him with what we gave up? Oberto (who we thought might never play again) Kurt Thomas (decent, but average, rotation big) and Bowen (who was due to retire anyway)?
note: I’m not saying Bowen was going to retire regardless of the trade. I am saying that it was time for him to.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Jul 1, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Bowen could have at least 3 more productive years. I think Pop and the FO decided we needed to be more offensive minded to compete with the Lakers and the other contenders. With that in mind, we picked up what we thought were offensive upgrades like RJ and started playing Bonner and others that sucked defensively. It was more of a change in team philosophy than Bowen losing his match with age.
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
"I mean, Dartmouth really sucks and Cornell only beat us by 18. Temple will beat the hell out of Cornell. Promise." -- Me
Hey there Fred. I know you’ll be happy to hear that the Lakers’ first call after the F A deadline was to Derek Fisher who is now an unrestricted free agent. Plus they didn’t make a qualifying offer to Farmar so he becomes unrestricted, as is Shannon Brown who opt’ed out of the last year of his contract. I guess we don’t need no stinking point guards!
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
Y’all will probably end up with Lamar bringing the ball up. We’ll trade you Tony for Artest.
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
"I mean, Dartmouth really sucks and Cornell only beat us by 18. Temple will beat the hell out of Cornell. Promise." -- Me
oh fred
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 1, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe but how long before Pop’s head would explode with Ron on the team? He seems like more of a Phil Jackson kind of player to me.
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
3 way trade:
LA gets Tony
Charlotte gets Farmar and Brown via sign and trade
Spurs get Jackson and Artest.
Does anyone NOT want to watch Pop try to coach with that lineup?
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Jul 1, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I was kidding, kinda. Mostly because I don’t think the Lakers and Spurs would ever trade with each other. We both like making one sided trades and therefore it would never work between us.
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
"I mean, Dartmouth really sucks and Cornell only beat us by 18. Temple will beat the hell out of Cornell. Promise." -- Me
Oh, i know. But seriously. Would that not be the most psychotic lineup ever? I can just picture Tim’s face. His eyes would always be popping out.
And think of how much listening to Artest would make Blairlol.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Jul 1, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
But just so it’s out there. The Spurs could definitely corral a crazy guy. Crazy really only wins when Crazy gets matched up with other crazies. Like what happened when Artest met Jackson and Jermaine. Or what happened with the JailBlazers. We could definitely handle one crazy. Not two though.
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
"I mean, Dartmouth really sucks and Cornell only beat us by 18. Temple will beat the hell out of Cornell. Promise." -- Me
Remember what happened the last time Jackson and Artest were on the same team.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Yeah…i dont think thats quite right. Could he have been productive? Yes. But he was already starting to get beat by the quicker guards. Once he lost the ability to keep up with whoever Tony should have been guarding, the advantage he gave us was gone. He couldnt stay in front of Chris Paul, Deron, or anyone of that nature anymore. Sure, he could still do better on Kobe than anyone else (due to nothing more than BBIQ), but i dont think its worth it to keep a guy on a team just to guard one specific type of player (aging shooting guards), especially when he provides the minimum on the other end.
I love Bruce. He was my third favorite Spur, right behind Tim and David (yes, i love him more than Manu, the beloved [who is right above Horry, the clutch in my top 5]). But it was time.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Jul 1, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
i think this was a reply fail. this was meant for Fred.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Jul 1, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Naw, it worked. A different conversation spun off right after. I still think Bruce would have been fine if we still had twin towers backing him. Our bigs this year were not Bruce friendly. Bruce was great when he had no fear of his man driving past him, because he knew he had two shot blockers behind him. With our current squad, he would not have been able to crowd the offensive player and it would have negated one of his main strengths.
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
"I mean, Dartmouth really sucks and Cornell only beat us by 18. Temple will beat the hell out of Cornell. Promise." -- Me
This is also true. It wasnt just Bruce declining, it was the situation around him. I’d call it 50/50 between the two though.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Jul 1, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
To be honest, I wouldn’t mind having RJ back on a restructured deal given the current situation of other players. At least there won’t be the learning curve that a new player might have and on top of it, he has been working out with Pop personally. He would be better than the last year with Spurs. I could be wrong, but that is just me.
Keep the faith!!
ESPN’s Ric Bucher reports Channing Frye has agreed to a 5 yr, $30 mil deal with Suns, a source with knowledge of the negotiations said.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 1, 2010 9:42 PM CDT reply actions
The Suns upped their offer from $25 million to $30 million on Thursday, and Frye accepted those terms tonight.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 1, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Frye listened to Chicago, Boston and others, but ultimately wanted to stay with Steve Nash. Once Suns pushed to $30 million, it was easy.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 1, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
no shit.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Jul 1, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So the owners are losing too much money all they can dole out are max and overpriced contracts?! More like their losing their minds. This is why the Spurs are at a disadvantage during free agency. I don’t envy the Spurs GM at this point. It’s hard to be the sane man in room full of morons. Everyone’s going to ignore you because you’re not an idiot.
you
ain’t never lied TD21. The owners are giving the green out like it is play money.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jul 1, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
This is why the Spurs are at a disadvantage during free agency.
The Spurs were smart enough to extend Manu before free agency. I remember some people complaining about the pricetag then, but it looks pretty reasonable now. We still have the best FO.
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
Damn, big contracts everywhere. TEAMS DONT LEARN.
Seriously? AMIR JOHNSON? SALMONS? DREW FUCKIN GOODEN? 30 million for FRYE? this is INSANE.
"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"
This is what I’m saying. The money isn’t limitless and everyone is throwing it around as if it is. Let’s sit back and see if we can’t snag a steal once everyone’s money dries up.
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
"I mean, Dartmouth really sucks and Cornell only beat us by 18. Temple will beat the hell out of Cornell. Promise." -- Me
One thing that you’re not keeping in mind though, is that these teams aren’t the teams who were expected to be big players in the FA market. And let’s be honest here, is there anything about any of these teams (Toronto, Minny, Atlanta, Memphis, Milwaukee) that suggests they wouldn’t do something like this?
The test will be after the big names sign and the second and third tier stars that are waiting in the wings start getting serious consideration from whoever loses out on the stars. There still might be a good chance some of them do the smart thing and fill out a few 2nd tier stars at decent prices and save some leftovers for next year’s crop (or after the CBA).
At first glance these deals seem really awful and make no sense but if you break it down, they work.
Take Gooden’s deal. The last two years are team options. He’s only getting about 6mil a year which is what he’s worth. Its not a monster contract.
I think Milotic’s is the same way.
Joe Johnson on the other hand. That contract is horrible.
Milotic is a relative unknown and could have loads of potential.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Jul 2, 2010 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Millotic is a pokemon…true history, and dont ask why I know that
"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"
Why do you know that?
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Jul 2, 2010 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions
I have a “friend” who is not me, that won every damn pokemon game that exists and he knows each one of them.
"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"
MIlotic is a big anguila with a very gay face and colors. Kinda like Darko
"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"
I’d bet his trading card was very valuable right off the shelves. But not for long.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Jul 2, 2010 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
ooh, and NTTAWWT.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Jul 2, 2010 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.
by KA1Z3R on Jul 2, 2010 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Y! Sports Free Agency Buzz: Rockets offering Scola, Ariza and Battier in sign-and-trades for Bosh or Amar’e: http://tinyurl.com/2b3vxp4
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 2, 2010 12:38 AM CDT reply actions
um… or RJ?
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Jul 2, 2010 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Am I the only one who thinks that Bosh and Yao won’t work out?
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Am I the only one who thinks that Bosh Tim Duncan and Yao David Robinson won’t work out?
Not the same, but that’s what they said before the twin towers dominated. I think Boshyao could work, but they’d be giving up too much of their roster, if this is the deal they make.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
It comes down to Yao’s health. Can he play one full season?
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
Can he play one full season?
If they were smart they’d sit him the full season and just bring him in for the playoffs. Still no guarantee he’d stay healthy, but it gives you the best chance
by doggydogworld on Jul 2, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Why the hell do they want Amare? He’s not worth giving up Ariza and Battier if they also get Bosh. I thought the guys in Houston had more sense than that.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Jul 2, 2010 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Suns agreed to term on a 4year, $18 million deal with free agent F Hakim Warrick, sources tell Y! Looks like Amare era in Phx could be over
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 2, 2010 10:08 AM CDT reply actions
Suns owner Robert Sarver and Happy Walters had a late talk Thursday and Amar’e agent rejected Suns latest- and likely final -- proposal.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 2, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
When asked if Warrick signing for Suns means Amar’e era over in Phoenix? A source close to situation told Y! Sports: “It looks that way.”
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 2, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Damn, I kinda wanted us to get another crack at the Nash/Apostrophe Suns next year.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
Knicks and Amar’e Stoudemire are making progress on 5 year, max contract, sources say. Framework of deal in place, talks continuing today.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 2, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
haha… his agents name is “Happy.”
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 2, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
“Hi, I’m Happy.”
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 2, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
“Fuck off.”
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 2, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Not quite.
No offense, Hirschof, but you got a ways to go to even match him.
We all do.
If you don’t need ACL’s to make it big, you don’t need pinky fingers. - completely deck
oh, i agree
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 3, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
While NY free agent F-C David Lee could be involved in a sign and trade, source said no current scenario involves the Phoenix Suns.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 2, 2010 1:34 PM CDT reply actions
please be spurs please be spurs please be spurs please be spurs
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 2, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Meh, I’m really not that enamored with Lee.
The people of the village fell silent, as the beast opened its mouth. And then the beast spoke, and said "LOL BRO".
Really? I like him. Your opinion differs from mine. Let us discuss this further, how about it?
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 2, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lee is a solid, scrappy 4… runs the pick and roll well. Uses body and bangs inside, better than avg rebounder.
Defensively he is an undersized 5 and not much of a shot blocker. Wants to win and hustles all the time.
by FreshmakerDTM on Jul 2, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
He’s an above average big but given the scarcity of really really good bigs in the league that’s not really saying much.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
by bj1der on Jul 2, 2010 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I used to… but the more I watched him the less I wanted to see him on the Spurs.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 2, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Wheres Tiago?
>insert pic of Splitter with a red/white striped shirt on, here<
by FreshmakerDTM on Jul 2, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
no seriously…C Deck…you should use your international following and try to influence him a bit. Let us sign him already
Keep the faith!!
i was being serious. waiting for news like everyone else here.
by FreshmakerDTM on Jul 2, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Not a rumor – just another article suggesting a trade.
San Antonio is the best place for Chris Bosh
* SPURS get: Chris Bosh, Reggie Evans, Marco Belinelli
* RAPTORS get: Tony Parker, Antonio McDyess, DeJuan Blair
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 2, 2010 3:03 PM CDT reply actions
To which I say “no.”
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 2, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And I support your “no”
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 2, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jul 2, 2010 3:45 PM CDT reply actions
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