Tiago Splitter Scouting Report
Tiago Splitter. if you don't know who this is don't worry because you will hear this name mentioned constantly over the next few months. Every Spurs fan who knows about Mr. Splitter is praying that he decides to make his way to San Antonio next season. It's believed that he can be the guy that puts the team over the hump by solving one of its major concerns. Although most of us know about Tiago, not all of us have actually seen him play. Thanks to Tim C. posting a link to some ACB games, I was able to finally see the Brazilian in action. For anyone who hasn't had a chance to see the games, and because I was bored and had nothing else to do, I decided to come up with a bit of a report on how Splitter actually plays. Check out my observations after the jump.

Strangely similar to another number 21 we know
I am by no means a scout but, like I said, I was bored. I also really just wanted to jot down the things I noticed about Tiago while I was watching his games. You are free to make any comments you want to about anything I say because i may very well be wrong about some of these things. If you want to and you don't mind listening to Spanish announcers call the games (I find them quite entertaining despite not knowing what they're saying) you can watch the replays of the games here. Just go to all the Caja Laboral matches.
Instead of listing all his strengths and weaknesses, I decided to divide them into four categories; Offense, Defense, Physical traits and any Intangibles that I saw.
Offense
- His overall offense is very limited. Outside of the post, he doesn't have much of an offensive game.
- He has a fairly decent post game. Not the most skilled player in the post but he gets the job done with great awareness and tremendous footwork. Timmy might have to teach him a thing or two though.
- He isn't the greatest screen setter out there,especially for his size. He sets weak pick on a regular basis and slips the pick most of the time, much like Dejuan Blair does. I suppose this isn't all that bad. Imagine what a Ginobili-Splitter pick and roll will look like.
- He is a surprisingly good FT shooter. He isn't automatic from the line but shoots them better than all of our bigs and even some of our guards. Around 80% in the ACB according to DraftExpress.com.
- By far his best attribute on the offensive end(at least from my point of view) is his passing. He shows a remarkable ability to get the ball to his teammates, especially when doubled in the post. Although there is the occasional mistake (he's human) he does a wonderful job of making the right pass. This may not always be the pass that leads to the assist but his ability to pass the ball is definitely something you would notice if you saw him play.
Defense
- Splitter's strength is in his defense. This is where he will make his money. He has excellent awareness and shows great fundamentals on the defensive end, something the Spurs will welcome.
- He has great discipline on defense. Doesn't bite on shot fakes and pass fakes. he knows how to defend without fouling as he goes strait up to contest shots rather that trying to get the block every time.
- He contests just about every shot that he can, unless his man is shooting a jumper that he can't make or he is beaten to the basket by a quick guard.
- His defensive footwork is really good for a player his size and this allows him to defend quicker bigs as well as defend the pick and roll well. He has the ability to hedge on screens and still get back to his man in time.
- He boxes out very well on defense. In fact, one of the reason his rebounding numbers are lower than people might like is because of the focus he puts on just boxing out. When a shot goes up the first thing he does is find his man and box him out, he doesn't care if he actually gets the board, long as the other team doesn't.
- He isn't a shot blocker. Not his game. He can block shots, don't get me wrong, but he would rather contest hard than waste energy trying to get a block. I also think it will help his numbers if he wasn't playing against shooting bigs as he does in the ACB. With limited athleticism, most of his block would come directly under the basket.. Asking him to block a shot outside the restricted circle is a bit much.
- The best part of watching Tiago Splitter play defense is his ability to make the proper rotations. He seems to always rotate to the right area while not jeopardizing his defense of his individual assignment. His teammates help with defending but he often has to make up for their defensive mistakes. Anyone who is a fan of defense will absolutely love seeing him play. Those crisp rotations that we all dream of seeing the Spurs make again on a regular basis seem to be second nature to him. It's a joy to watch.
Physical
- He's a 7 footer with a 7'2" wingspan. Let's just get that out the way.
- His athleticism is limited. DraftExpress says he has a 31" max vertical leap (John wall has a 39 to put it in perspective) but, from what I've seen, he doesn't use it much on the floor, except maybe for grabbing rebounds.
- His quickness is a lot better than I thought it would be for someone his size. He seems like he would always have the advantage in that department when facing NBA centers.
- He doesn't shy away from contact. He actually led the ACB in fouls drawn per game. He's a fighter. He wouldn't be afraid to go into traffic for a board if he had to.
- I'm not sure if he has limited stamina but it seems like he doesn't overwork himself. He seems to only use as much energy as is needed to perform the task at hand.
- The most obvious physical trait that Splitter has is his lack of bulk. He gets pushed around in the post far too often on both ends of the floor. And these are not Dwight Howard type of guys doing the pushing. At 245 lbs, he certainly needs to add a little more to be able to hold up against the Andrew Bynums of the league.
Intangibles
- He has good energy, even though he doesn't use much of it unless he has to. Comparing him to Anderson Varejao is a bit inaccurate to me because he is nowhere near that energetic.
- He hustles. He genuinely cares about winning and shows that he is willing to save loose balls and fight for rebounds. There is a limit, though. Don't expect him to dive parallel to the court to save a ball going out of bounds. He does a solid job though.
- He's a bit of a pesk. He doesn't seem to be as annoying as Varejao is but he does do little things (subtle push here and there) to annoy his opponent. European players who are used to it would not mind as much but guys in the NBA might find it to be a little too much. Advantage Splitter.
- Doesn't try to do too much. He knows his limitations. Doesn't do what he knows he can't do and I don't just mean that he doesn't take bad shots(which he doesn't) but something as simple as not trying to dive across the lane to get a block when he clearly can not make it, not trying to grab a rebound when his teammate is clearly going to get it, not trying to make the "home run play" or the "highlight reel pass". He makes the simple play always and knows what he can and can not do.
- Looks like a bad ass. Maybe it's just me, but looking at this guy I wouldn't want to mess with him. I don't think he's a dirty player but just by looking at him I wouldn't want to test him to find out. Seems like the kind of guy the Spurs need.
- He is a team player. The most important thing of all. He defers to his teammates and you could see that he is genuinely happy to see them succeed. He doesn't steal rebounds, always makes the extra pass when it's available and generally like his teammates, unlike other guys in the league.
So there you have it. This is my observations of Tiago Splitter. Now you know either what we are getting or what we are missing out on next season. (personally I think he's coming over) In any event, Splitter is not a star player like many see him as. He could be some day, maybe, but he isn't there right now. The comparison that everyone seems to be making between him and Anderson Varejao I think is inaccurate. Forgive me Spurs fans but I would have to say that Tiago Splitter is a less skilled version of Tim Duncan. Yup, I said it. The reason I say this is because he has the same "boring" style that Tim does. He doesn't try to do to much, and he has the fundamentals down. Call him "The little Fundamental" if you will but that's how I see him. Regardless of whether he's a star or not, he's certainly the best big we've ever had next to Tim since The Admiral left. Easily. It will be fun to see him on the team.
Here are the links to a couple videos of him plus the only one on youtube I could find: http://acbtv.acb.com/video/2888
http://acbtv.acb.com/video/2828
http://acbtv.acb.com/video/2804
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These videos show a little but don’t really show how good his passing really is. Couldn’t find any that really did him justice there.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Hero
love the Nas track. but he is far from being a hero for our team. LOL. i think he will most definitely help a lot if he come over but if they are offering the guy as much money as reported, there is no way he is coming to the states.
by gunnin' gervin on May 30, 2010 11:32 AM CDT reply actions
Hope you don’t mind me making a couple of little corrections in there, but I wanted to move it to the front page. Mainly because I think you nailed him down pretty well(even though I think his screens are more powerful than you give him credit for, but that’s really my only beef with it), and partly because Tiago’s got another game starting at 12:30 Spurs time today, on ACB360 again. So, if anyone wants to watch, that’s in about 30 minutes.
Free Tiago Splitter!
I take that last part back. Apparently, he already played…. OUT OF HIS FREAKING MIND.
Free Tiago Splitter!
4 minutes into the replay, I’ve see him make two ridiculous circus shots, like the difficulty didn’t even bother him. Caja won in OT, btw – they’ve got Madrid on the ropes, one game away from elimination.
Free Tiago Splitter!
23 and 10 in 38 minutes. I think he could have had a lot more if he wasn’t so unselfish. Looking at the box score the thing that strikes me as surprising is his 1 assist (at least I think it’s assist) I’ll have to watch the game to see what happened.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
intangible:
name sounds like a wrestling move
"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."
i still belevie he is coming over the way the greek and Eroupe and Greek eco is going. Then people are gettign to worked up over nothing. That report about Mardid or whatever that team name is isnt even offical it probably isnt even true. It was found in a site were fans could post blogs.
GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2010 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)
It was found in a site were fans could post blogs.
Those sites are such horse crap.
"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo
excellent observation, rec’d
I don’t think it’s going out on a limb to say that Duncan doesn’t want to play for a losing club.- http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com
by Kondor on May 30, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I haven’t seen this guy play as much as some of the other members, but from the 2 or so highlight compilations I’ve seen….I’m not impressed.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
Really the only thing that made an impression on me is his ability to run the floor as such a tall player. That, and some of his passes. The rest of his game looks very average when I try and imaging him playing in the NBA.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
Try watching one of his games. It might help.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
I just finished watching the game and Splitter was a monster out there. Double double in an overtime game. He only got 1 assist because of how his team played; pick and roll all day long and they only shot a bunch of threes
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Great scouting report.
As the greatest Spurs blog on the planet, do you think Splitter might see PtR??
Maybe we should start a petition (beg him) to join the Spurs.
We should do that.Bring TiagoToSA.com..hehehe…bj1der should apply as a spurs scout.
But SA is a team that wants the player to decide,just like the sheed thing,unlike Boston who really went to sheed,we might look desperate doing that but sometimes desperation is the key to help us.
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
The fans can show more desperation than the FO. Pop and RC are all poker faces and smoke and mirrors.
Nice one, Eric.
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"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Jun 1, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
That’s a good one, but I prefer the coverage they have over at:
www.SplitterPleaseComeToTheSpursForTheMLE.com
Be careful, apparently I'm unrelenting in my bonhomie.
reading this is depressing, as i don’t think he’s even gonna make it over. i hope i’m wrong, but i just don’t see him making it to the nba any time soon…maybe we can get nene to talk to him…
free malik hairston!
perth wildcats - 2009/2010 nbl champions baby!
by sleep research facility on May 30, 2010 11:26 PM CDT reply actions
or Varejao or Leandro.
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
Yeah, those guys are just dying to help us out
by doggydogworld on May 31, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
“Hey, you should totally join one of my team’s western rivals and kick our ass. It will be fun.”
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jun 1, 2010 7:31 AM CDT up reply actions
The reason I say this is because he has the same “boring” style that Tim does.
Reading his intangibles,this is what came first into my mind.Hope he comes,we need his defense badly than his offense, he doesn’t have to be a star but if he could be a great compliment to Tim then he is the right guy.All in all the best attribute that I like is his a team player and doesn’t care about stats,this time that’s Timmy+Manu.
But I guess reading this gives me hope so as faith,but it also gives me the what ifs if his not going to SA.
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
I agree. He won’t be a traditional shot blocking center, but the team desperately need a big man who can guard the pick and roll. Teams shredded the Spurs with the Pick and Roll all season (think Utah and Houston) before Phoenix ate them alive with it. Timmy can handle the shot blocking duties, much like he did when paired with Oberto. If the team could then find a solid perimeter defender to pair with him, I think their defense would look much improved.
Not a true shot blocker but should get you about a block per game in the NBA
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
shot blocking is overrated
"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on May 31, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Indeed. Defensive positioning and footwork, on the other hand, are the keys to making people miss. Watch Tiago’s games, and most of the time his defensive work is flawless. That’s not to say he doesn’t make mistakes, he just doesn’t make a lot of them.
Free Tiago Splitter!
True, and the more I think about it, I realize we never really replaced what Oberto gave us. He really was the perfect complement to Timmy in the small-ball era, because his positioning on O and D was near impeccable. He was also a better than average passer and he played within his skill set. I think viewing Splitter as a taller, slightly more skilled version of Oberto is a fair assessment.
Well, then all we need to do is sign the next Tim Duncan to allow the present one to play the old man David Robinson role and the team is set!
What you are suggesting isnt impossible.
I was thinking maybe trade Parker and the rights to Splitter for New Jerseys 3 pick. In addition , there has to be other plausible ideas we are not aware of.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
Possible, yes, but not necessarily likely. I’m not sure there’s anyone in this years draft on TD’s level when he entered the league. Bosh is probably the only player who could conceivably fill that role immediately.
My point on Splitter though, is that he won’t necessarily bring the team a championship, but he’ll provide things that none of the current crop of bigs (minus TD) provide. The team could do much worse.
I was being overzealous in suggesting the next TD could be found, but if the Spurs are talking to Derrick Favors, they probably believe he could be the next bigman cornerstone for San Antonio.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
Absolutely. Splitter is not the answer. He’s not going to automatically bring us a title. Even if we fill all our “holes” we still are not guaranteed a championship. It all comes down to guys playing well which we did not have for the last 2 or 3 years
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
he isn’t. It’s a partial answer. Spurs still need to bolster their wings. Possibly trust/play guys like Temple/Hairston/Gee?
They have a core to do it. They just need surrounding pieces. Splitter would be one of them, but he’s not the only one. Spurs have a lot of roster to fill in.
Like I said, these guys have to also play well. For years our role players have left it all up to the stars. Thankfully they were good enough to make up for it but those days are gone. We need more production from our role players
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
It all comes down to guys playing well which we did not have for the last 2 or 3 years
More like guys not stepping up when they are needed the most?
For Sale:Anyone interested with Spurs SF Richard Jefferson? Then just pick up your phone and dial 781-452-0659.Oh,wait its the rejection hot line.(Just joking,we're stuck with him,let's deal with it that we got no other SF and I guess he is much better than what he is showing us.)
Bosh is probably the only player who could conceivably fill that role immediately.
Don’t you dare to compare that chocker Bosh to the GOAT PF.
I don’t think it’s going out on a limb to say that Duncan doesn’t want to play for a losing club.- http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com
C’mon. The next Tim Duncan is not available at #3.
Dominant bigs like Tim and David come along every 4-5 years. Besides David and Tim we’ve had Shaq, Yao and maybe (and I stress the word maybe) Dwight Howard. Most years we know ahead of time the draft will produce no dominant bigs, other years there is a prospect who gives hope but ends up being sub-dominant (Bogut, 2005) or injured (Oden, 2007).
by doggydogworld on Jun 1, 2010 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions
What about Kevin Garnett and Dirk Novitzky? I would put Kevin as #3 on your list, and Dirk in front of Yao.
I don’t think it’s going out on a limb to say that Duncan doesn’t want to play for a losing club.- http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com
I’m talking about low post players. Tim can call himself a PF all he wants but that’s not where he played. Looking ahead he’ll be playing more PF.
by doggydogworld on Jun 1, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
early in his career, that was all he played next to David. He didnt switch til after he retired, and after Pop developed his lust for small ball.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Jun 1, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Funny, cause I seem to remember Tim taking residence in the low post from day one of his rookie season. David was the one shooting jumpers up around the free throw line.
by doggydogworld on Jun 1, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Yao wasn’t that dominant after maybe 4 years in the league where he improved and was better than his rookie year.Shaq,David and Tim were already forces just after joining and entering the league,even before that.Favors is going to be a special player as what probably the Spurs are thinking and besides if ever Favors becomes a free agent he might remember the Spurs talking to him,that talk might help us in the future(MAYBE).But not right now.I agree mocked draft pick number 3 is not the next Timmy.Plus he might not be even the 3rd pick.And he falls on NJ’s pick,and NJ would be like the Wizard,so willing to give up that pick for a much better player/s.Except T’wolves were too dumb to give up 2 good players for a player who is MIA and drafting guards.If Minn would draft at least one more guard,they would have a center at 6-4 in the future.They should have used those 5 picks last year to draft each position.And they have like 3 or 5 picks this year,wow if that is San Antonio/OKC we/they would be like the the next big thing after 5 years.What do you expect its Minnesota.
For Sale:Anyone interested with Spurs SF Richard Jefferson? Then just pick up your phone and dial 781-452-0659.Oh,wait its the rejection hot line.(Just joking,we're stuck with him,let's deal with it that we got no other SF and I guess he is much better than what he is showing us.)
I wouldn’t put Yao in that category. He’s the best at 7.5 feet to play the game, but he nonetheless has the natural defensive skills of a cardboard box, and the durability to match. Not to mention his team always seems to perform better once he inevitably goes down each year. The guy is the tallest guy in the league, but his rebounding averages aren’t any better than Dirk Nowitski’s.
He does have a smooth offensive game in the post though.
Honestly, the only reason Yao gets so much attention is because he’s a 7’ 6’’ Chinaman and the NBA has been anemic at center lately. Had he played in the 1990s, he might not even have cracked the top 10.
by Neuwaldegg on Jun 1, 2010 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
My Dad says Yao sucks
For Sale:Anyone interested with Spurs SF Richard Jefferson? Then just pick up your phone and dial 781-452-0659.Oh,wait its the rejection hot line.(Just joking,we're stuck with him,let's deal with it that we got no other SF and I guess he is much better than what he is showing us.)
Kwame Brown has to be mentioned as well.
by FreshmakerDTM on Jun 1, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Only with Darko Milicic and Michael Olowokandi
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
those guys didn’t get traded for a Gasol
by FreshmakerDTM on Jun 2, 2010 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions
I read an article on Hoopsworld that suggests that Prokhorov doesn’t have much knowledge of the NBA. Imagine if he sees that pick as a waste of time and trades it to us fro the rights to Nando, thinking he will be the point guard on his “international team” in the nba
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Imagine if he trades to us Lopez for Mahinmi and Harris for Nando’s rights. Then he signs Wade and trades him for Parker. He would have three French players on his team, and we would be all set to go after another title.
I don’t think it’s going out on a limb to say that Duncan doesn’t want to play for a losing club.- http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com
Pardon me for thinking that putting a mediocre big in the vein of Nazr Mohammed, Rasho Nesterovic or Fabricio Oberto next to Duncan will just not be cutting it anymore.
Tim Duncan is really beginning to show his age and I refuse to stick my head in the sand about it.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
Splitter is better than all those guys. Oberto came when he was older to the Spurs.
Unless something crazy happens, Dice is still a Spur. Splittler/Dice is a decent big man combo. Obviously a lot depends on what else the Spurs bring in.
I saw Mahinmi’s highlights of the year, and they looked probably better than Splitter’s highlights. Yawn just needs a playing time, exactly what Tim and Dice need less. With Blair and Bonner we would have a very nice 6-man rotation up front.
I don’t think it’s going out on a limb to say that Duncan doesn’t want to play for a losing club.- http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com
Pop’s dalliance over Ian would only end if Pop promises Ian to play him 82 games(w/o injuries) and play him 20 minutes.That man is asking minutes nicely than Mason but I’m doubtful if he’ll perform well.He might perform like it was Pop’s fault not playing him,more like G.Hill did in his 2nd year or just like Mase—-Sucktitude and roster space to waste.I believe Yawn has the talent but I guess him not playing much and being a foul machine just gives me doubts about him.We don’t know what he can do if his in a GSW uniform or a Nets uniform or a Spurs uniform ,we don’t know if we’ll want him (Back)like Scola(Likely to happen if his not a Spur) or would still be a bust.
For Sale:Anyone interested with Spurs SF Richard Jefferson? Then just pick up your phone and dial 781-452-0659.Oh,wait its the rejection hot line.(Just joking,we're stuck with him,let's deal with it that we got no other SF and I guess he is much better than what he is showing us.)
If it’s highlights we’re after there’s no question Ian is our man. Of course by that standard RJ has been one of the best Spurs in 10 years.
by doggydogworld on Jun 1, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Highlights can never show how quickly Ian picks up fouls. He loses his concentration often and tends to use his arms/hands to defend. This is where he picks up all his fouls. He has to speed to stay with most guys. If he would just keep his hands up, he’d be a much different player.
I’d be a different player if I was faster, stronger and had better court vision.
I’d also like to jump higher and shoot better too, but those aren’t deal breakers.
Be careful; apparently I'm unrelenting in my bonhomie.
I think, I’d make a great GM if I had friends among NBA owners.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
That’s easy. Why won’t you buy a team and give me a chance to be your GM?
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
I guess you don’t believe I could be a good GM.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
Considering Michael Redd wasn’t a shooter until he got into the NBA, many things are doable. Just got to build the habits. Ian is still young and still relatively new to basketball (started in his late teens).
I didn’t know that about Ian. That actually helps me make sense of his situation.
A lot of a player’s “court sense” is something that’s felt and perceived without conscious thought. That kind of thing takes years and years to learn, but most of us take it for granted because we played from our youth.
So, this could really fits into why he’s still a Spur even though we don’t see him on the court often.
Of course, if it turns out that he grew up playing soccer or another sport that should have helped him in basketball, then I’m right back to where I was with him.
Be careful; apparently I'm unrelenting in my bonhomie.
Ummm, David is not dead yet?
‘sides David could block the shot and come back down with the ball and then dribble down court and slam it in the opposing big man’s face…….unless it was Hakeem :(
"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on May 31, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Can we have a websites f bringing Bowen,D.Rob and Splitzy here in SA.Wait that would look very desperate or its just me being desperate.
For Sale:Anyone interested with Spurs SF Richard Jefferson? Then just pick up your phone and dial 781-452-0659.Oh,wait its the rejection hot line.(Just joking,we're stuck with him,let's deal with it that we got no other SF and I guess he is much better than what he is showing us.)
Can you imagine him & Manu together? WOW!! C’mon FO…let’s get this done!! BTW, anybody else notice what a “coincidence” is was that the “big market” teams made it to the finals…again!!! I think we’d ALL be suprised if we knew what really goes on behind the scenes.
by titansfan4ever on May 31, 2010 10:01 AM CDT reply actions
More like my Finals previe--sorry if its too long and for using the title box
Well I guess teams like Orl,Celtics and LA are having a total salaries of 80,82 and 90 mill respectively.Though I think the better team of the three is Orl due to their bench(Even though the other two is off into another finals and damn no good guys are going to win this year,actually San Antonio is the last “good guys” to win,IMO).Seeing the Celtics and LA bench,you can say they are really not that good.Boston is winning due to Rondo setting 85% of their offense,Rondo plays D,KG is not KG anymore but I would give him props for showing up when he is needed,Paul,well as much as I hate him being a “drama queen”,that guy is just deadly on offense,Ray can hit that clutch three or just make it rain,Davis is the X-factor,the “baby” is just showing up esp in clutch minutes(Weird for a guy like his size,and he does acrobatic layups too just like Blolair.),Perk is definitely one mad man defending the post.After that,Tony and Nate are the best guys coming off the bench,maybe Fin too.See Bos came this far due to guys showing up in the playoffs(SEE: Some San Antonio players and that’s the difference) despite poor or less minutes played or games played in the regular season,as we all know the post season and if you still play in June and no fat lady sightings around are the important things in the NBA before you get another sports wedding ring and that golden trophy.Even how weak their bench compared to Orl,they had 3 guys,T.Allen,Davis and Nate stepping up in to playoffs(The latter of the three against the crucial game 6 vs Orl).That’s all you need,more of an 8 man rotation and I guess that’s enough to carry them.While LA wins because they have 3 7footers,Odom(Dating a Kardashian must be like Kate Hudson dating a baseball player,they like win championships,just ask Reggie,Khloe might be lucky after all) stepping up and had double-doubles,Pau had some bad games,one or two,but he is Pau. Bynum may not be healthy(Didn’t play right?) against the Celtics in 08 and right now his not that healthy also but at least he will play,off the bench or starting,that’s the big difference,but it will be up with his performance and according to the show NBA TV,I think with Kamla,Drew’s stats vs PHX is mostly an every other day performance. Ex: Game 1: 12 and 8 Game 2: 4 and 6. It will have a big impact of them losing if he can’t score at least 10 and 7 in a game or productive minutes in the offensive and defensive end.Second Fish is also stepping up when his team needs him, his doing Kobe-esque shots that are tough,clutch three,free throws or just whatever.And Lastly LA has Kobe(I don’t hate that man),he is just clutch,shots every tough shots.Will do anything on the defensive end to help his team win but his best service is that in the offensive end.Watch his games and just hearing that name,you know what he can do.And I guess Kobe is a better player than James,not stat wise,because in my opinion Kobe is a better leader and a better team player than James(Just a comparison to James).I mean Both guys has really good teams.(See:Cavs 2009-2010 record).
They are both in the finals I guess not because they are having backdoor or under the table business(Maybe they had some little things) but because, guys The Role players are stepping up to help their superstars.Celts didn’t win 60,nobody thought they’d be in the finals( I root for Orl and its Orl in 5.) Since its all another Cle-LA show(Not gonna happen),Celts were battling injuries too but most of their players where 90.0% healthy in the playoffs.And with LA,sorry forgot to mention Ron.2 games vs PHX that he scored 20 and he had his biggest lay up or put back or rebound in his career.Call it a Sean Elliot kind of shot(But I know you wouldn’t),Ron is stepping up big in the playoffs,particularly against PHX,whether its in his defense or offense.
The key why they are there(Finals) is that,Role Players Steps up.And for us to win another one we have to have at least 4 other guys as role players to step up.And the big three is healthy and its whether Splitz will come or not.If Bos wins Rondo should be the finals MVP,if Pierce,people voting must be that crazy right?.LA wins then its another trophy for the Mamba.LA in 6. I’ll root for them since they are a western conference team—-pretty much like what Alvin Genrty said.There are no good guys playing and San Antonio has already gone fishing and I pretty much don’t care who wins.So screw it that we don’t have any choice of who’s winning.So I guess we’ll have a better game predicting now since there are no good guys, more like 50-50 than us just rooting for the good guys in PHX and Orl?.And yeah I guess not so many of us has it right in the WCF while TD21,ddog28,Edg5 and alamobro just to name a fewwho picked the celts to win,maybe there are others too but not so many that has the ECF outcome correct.
For Sale:Anyone interested with Spurs SF Richard Jefferson? Then just pick up your phone and dial 781-452-0659.Oh,wait its the rejection hot line.(Just joking,we're stuck with him,let's deal with it that we got no other SF and I guess he is much better than what he is showing us.)
What about sheed?
You forgot about Rasheed Wallace playing decent in the playoffs. I can’t go with a guy who gave himself a nickname (Black Mamba) ,so i am going with Boston because they are the deeper and tougher team. If Splitter comes through we will have another big, then all the team needs is a few shooters and we are back in the thick of things.
by gunnin' gervin on May 31, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
OK next time maybe I would.
For Sale:Anyone interested with Spurs SF Richard Jefferson? Then just pick up your phone and dial 781-452-0659.Oh,wait its the rejection hot line.(Just joking,we're stuck with him,let's deal with it that we got no other SF and I guess he is much better than what he is showing us.)
Sorry TP_09 – I didn’t read all of that -
another big man would be nice but I do not think he is the missing piece……but it looks like he could help
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awesome write up…maybe a little bit of optimistic homerism, but who can blame you for that and I didn’t watch the games, you did.
Here are a few questions I have about his game:
1. How often is he doubled as the ACB MVP?
2. Even when he is not scoring, is he the focal point of the Caja offense?
3. Offensively, what is his range?
4. Could he guard Channing Frye or Okur at the 3 point line?
5. Is he spending more time on Bynum or Gasol?
Can he do a good HEB commercial?
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jun 1, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Or more important, how would he look at the front of one of those floats in the “River Parade” after we win the finals?
by titansfan4ever on Jun 7, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
7. Would we do better next year with Splitter or Scola? How about the year after?
by doggydogworld on Jun 1, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
1. He’s doubled just about every time when he’s in the post unless teams (Real Madrid for example) don’t want to open up the 3 pt shooters.
2. No. Caja’s offense is a mix of the Warriors and Suns; all three point shots. They do run pick and rolls with Splitter but usually end up taking a 3 at the end. Splitter only scores on the occasional pick and rolls and when teams are dumb enough to give him single coverage. He rarely scores two baskets in a row for the team; after he scores the team takes about 4-5 shots before he gets the ball again.
3. Not sure what his range is. He doesn’t take many outside shots. Given his FT percentage I would think he has a 15 Ft shot but I haven’t seen it.
4. Yes. He can if asked to. he contests every shot and has more quickness than both of those guys combined, especially on defense.
5. I think so. This is his strength. He can defend bigs all over the floor but being in the paint is where he is the best because he can defend his own man and be in position to defend against anyone driving to the basket. He does need some more strength if he is going to guard these guys in the post though.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Question on # 4&5
The big guy’s overseas are not the most physically gifted or physical for that matter so how do you know he can guard stretch 4’s and 5’s and how do you know he is strong enough to guard the big and strong 4’s and 5’s in the NBA? It even stated in this gentlemen’s write up that he is light in the ass
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 1, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Cost to sign Splitter ?
I have a question that keeps bugging me, given the importance of signing Splitter, what can the Spurs actually offer him in terms of a long term 3 year contract. I know the Spurs have the Mid – level exception of about $ 6 M for next year but given RJ and Tony’s combined $ 25 plus Million are off the book after next season. do the spurs have the option of offering a 3 year deal of say $ 6 M-1st yr, $ 8 M 2nd year, $ 10 M 3rd year. If so that seems to change the picture on the likelyhood of signing Splinter, I know signing Splinter long term reduces the possiblity of re-signing Tony or RJ, but maybe thats a call the Spurs have to make
+1
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 3, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Cap, take note of this if Splitter ever dons the Silver and Black. We already have a a nick sprung from a typo accompanied by an image.
That’s a trifecta of a different kind.
Be careful; apparently I'm unrelenting in my bonhomie.
I can’t recall the details but the exceptions generally have limits on how much the contract can increase each year. So I don’t think a 6/8/10 is possible. Or advisable since his value is uncertain.
by doggydogworld on Jun 3, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
mid level exception and more for Splitter
If you follow the Mid level exception rule to the letter, it makes sense that the Spurs can offer more than the MLE to Splitter beyond the 1st year. The Slary cap is set at around $ 55 M . End of the 2010-11 season with RJ and Tony’s $ 27 M of the books. The Spurs would be easily $ 10 million under the salary cap, which they can use on Splitter, Obviously commiting to Splitter also means we lose hope of re-signing RJ and Tony .
not quite, since the lockout is coming. we would be foolish (although nice) to resign Tony to an absolute max deal. I think more likely he signs for something a little less than max, with the Spurs pitch being something akin to “sign it or you can have whatever is considered a max deal after the lockout”.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Jun 4, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Parker is a great player but he is also a known commodity. A lot of teams get caught up in the potential of the unknown and are too afraid to make deals for the fear of passing on a once and a life time player. I am by no means saying that i know if any of these players could be the next big superstar or big draft bust but when it is your job as a general manager to make these decisions it is kind of hard to always be pre cautious. It’s a damned if you do, damn if you don’t job.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

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