Offseason outlook: Free Agents
by Big50 on May 25, 2010 3:28 PM CDT
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PrintSo Tim C. took a good look at Small Forward's that the Spurs might draft, keep or sign a week or so ago. I wanted to go a little more in depth and a take a look at the free agents that will be available or might be available. The Spurs are going to be limited in their ability to get top level FA's, so I will take a look at some of the folks that the Spurs might be interested in getting as well as guys they realistically have a chance to go get.. I'll toss in a possible a pipe dream or two.
LeBron, you want to play for the MLE? No?
So, let me start by saying that the Spurs are clearly not going to get LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh or any other huge "super" star. The bottom line is the Spurs can't afford any of those guys and I don't see any kind of sign and trade going down for one of those headliners. I believe the Spurs will stick with the core they've built and try to add some pieces to help improve the roll players. Also, I'm going to assume for the rest of this little write up that the Spurs will not get Tiago Splitter. If the Spurs get Splitter obviously the needs will change, they will also change after the draft, but for now, we'll just take a look at what's out there for the taking.
Free Agents - Guards
- Ray Allen - unrestricted - He's old, but he's the kind of old that helps you win. I don't really like Ray-Ray as a person, but the guy can ball and he would clearly help the Spurs shooting problems. Probably out of the Spurs price range.
- Anthony Morrow - restricted - He's young, and can shoot lights out (45% from 3 last year). He would also be fairly cheap, he has a 1 million dollar qualifying offer. He's a good rebounder at the 2 spot and hustles on defense. This guy would be a great under the radar guy to pick up for some offense off bench.
- J.J. Redick - restricted - I hate Duke and therefore Redick, but I have to say that Redick has really picked up his game of late. I think he will probably cost to much for the Spurs, but he's a hustle guy who can shoot lights out.
- Ronnie Brewer - restricted - This guy can defend. I'm not sure he can shoot well enough to pay what he'll want and he will probably cost more than the Spurs will want to pay, but he would be a nice defender and at 6-7 is tall enough to guard the 2 and 3 positions.
- Steve Blake - unrestricted - He'd be a nice backup PG. He can shoot really well from 3, but is really bad inside the arc. He shot around 40% inside the arc last year. I'd probably rather have Garrett Temple run the back up PG spot.
A 6-5 SG who shoots 45% from downtown for a million bucks? Yes, please.
Free Agents - Small Forwards
- Richard Jefferson - player option - If he opts out the Spurs probably will not be able to afford him and it might cost them their MLE. My opinion is, unless the Spurs can workout a sign and trade or a trade with his current contract, they aren't going to be able to afford a better SF.
- Travis Outlaw - unrestricted - Rudy Gay would be great, but he's going to cost way to much. Outlaw probably will too, but I can dream right? Outlaw is 6-9 and 25. He's athletic and can shoot and plays decent defense. Yeah, he's going to cost to much.
- Linas Kleiza - restricted - He's making 6 million a year in Greece, but it might be worth coming back before the CBA expires and getting a long term deal. He's 25 and can shoot. Defense is not his specialty. Denver has his rights. He might demand more than the Spurs would want to pay.
- Matt Barnes - player option - Barnes is a defender. He can shoot ok, but he'd be brought here to defend and rebound. I like Barnes and his intensity. I'd rather have him than Jefferson if RJ continues to be nothing more than a rebounding SF.
- Mike Miller - unrestricted - The man can shoot, if he will shoot. He didn't have a good year in DC. He's often considered a SG and can play either spot. He's not a defensive stopper, but he hustles at least when I've seen him. I'm not sure he'd be what the Spurs need, but it'd be nice to see him shooting for the good guys. All of this goes for Kyle Korver as well.
- Dorell Wright - unrestricted - This guy is under radar. He's a defensive guy who can shoot the three fairly well and he's done in Miami. Sound familiar? I know very little about this guy, but if he's as good at defense and 3-point shooting as I've read he might be the bargain defender we've been looking for at the SF position.
No, don't dunk! Pop won't want you if you dunk!
Free Agents - Power Forwards and Centers
- Luis Scola - restricted - I can't see Houston letting him get away for a mere 4.1 million. It'd be great for the Spurs to get him cheap if they don't land Splitter, but I can't see that happening. David Lee and several other PF/C fall into this category of "it'd be nice, but not gonna happen".
- Udonis Haslem - unrestricted - Undersized, but a better version of DeJuan Blair. I like Haslem, but I don't think he would fit the needs of this team. I'd rather see the Spurs spend money else where unless they can pick him up for really really cheap.
- Ian Mahinmi - unrestricted - I'm not going to lie, I'd like to see what Yawn can do with regular playing time with good players (see: Manu Ginobili and George Hill). I can just see him going to the Knicks or the Heat and tearing it up for 1 or 2 million a year. I'd love to see the Spurs get the benefit of all the time they've put into Ian, but only at a good price.
- Amir Johnson - unrestricted - This is the big man that seems to be under the radar (I know I've beaten that phrase to death, I'm sorry...sorta). He's played in Toronto and is a defensive and rebounding specialist. Very young, at 22, and since he's limited offensively he might come at a discount. I think if the Spurs lose Mahinmi, this guy might be what they need. This is who I'd want for us to bring in. Got loads of potential and has the motor and desire for defense.
- Brad Miller - unrestricted - He's old. He's a guy that can give you a lot of what Antonio McDyess already does. He'd rebound better than Bonner and still spread the floor to some degree. He's not the defender he once was, but if you can get him cheap, he'd be a nice big man off the bench.
- Matt Bonner - unrestricted - Here he is. You knew he was going to have to be on the list at some point. Bonner is a shooter in a big man's body. He's not a great rebounder and struggles on defense, but he hustles and is the type of quality guy that we all love. If he comes back it'll have to be at the right price, aka very cheap. Channing Frye is Bonner light. Yes he hit some shots against us, but has done nothing else the rest of the playoffs. I'd rather have Bonner.
Amir Johnson, I'd love to see some of that for the Silver and Black
Summary
As you can see, there are guys out there who the Spurs could use. Not everybody is going to get a max contract and if the Spurs front office is on top of things, as I'm sure they will be, there are plenty of good "cheap" players out there to be had. Here are three guys that I am really interested in:
- Anthony Morrow - His shooting and hustle really appeal to me. The Spurs need shooters and with a guy that young there is lots of room for improvement and he shouldn't cost that much. Of course the Warriors might like him and match whatever is offered, but young shooters are always welcome.
- Dorell Wright - He wouldn't be my first pick of SF's, but if he comes cheap and hungry it might be worth the risk. He is considered a plus defender and a good shooter, both of which the Spurs need at the SF spot.
- Amir Johnson - Yeah, he's limited offensively, but would the Spurs really need a lot of offense out of him? I think not. If he could come in and be that big man defensive guy and be a force on the boards that would keep the Spurs from missing Splitter to much. He's also very very young.
With a good draft and some smart FA moves this Spurs team could be poised to some serious damage next year. It should be an interesting free agent season if nothing else. Let's just hope that while all the big names are moving and getting the press, the Spurs are busy loading up talent that can help the Big 3 get things back to the level we've come to accustomed to.
Thanks to nba.fannhouse.com for a nice Top 50 Free Agent List. I didn't totally plagiarize it.
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Cool, thanks for putting this together. I think Morrow and Wright are good picks if the price is right. Amir Johnson is too redundant with Blair on the roster. I think offense is actually something we could use from a big that is coming in. We don’t have the 3 point shooting we used. We need to improve inside-out on both ends.
Yeah, you’re probably right about Johnson. I was thinking he was bigger than 6-9. I’d love to see what Yawn could do with playing time. He’s got the skill set to be good offensively, but I’m not sure why Pop hasn’t seen fit to play him.
I really wish they would have played him along TD this season. He usually made something happen while on the court, and more often than not, it was a good thing.
Amir is one of those guys who like Jason Maxiel has height fluctuation issues only i believe he was actually found to be taller than expected.
I had Morrow down as a must look for the Spurs all season. I kept picking this guy up the past two years in fantasy leagues and when he has been healthy he absolutely torches the net. I remember him having an enormous night against the spurs.
Great read.
"When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges."
Very nice. Thanks Big50. I like the realistic approach instead of just screaming for two all-star 7 footers :-).
'What color do you want?" (Tim Duncan)
Deftntley Ronnie Brewer is a guy the sprus should try to go after. Cant we get 2 decent players. Dont we have the MLE and the Bi annual exception.
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SPURS 2010 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)
Brewer can’t shoot his way out of a paper bag, I don’t know that the Spurs need someone like that on the roster.
his shot improved a LOT this year. like, leaps and bounds.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on May 25, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
he dunks it well hell of a high % shooter for a swing man though how much of that came from playing in Utahs flex i am not sure.
Also plays very very good D…
If he could shoot a corner 3 i’d be more than happy to have him start all year long at the three spot.
"When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges."
Awesome post. Rec’d
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on May 25, 2010 8:22 PM CDT reply actions
If you're going to dream...
If you’re going to dream of max free agents, I’d point out that RJ + Splitter + going-to-a-contender is a lot better offer in a sign and trade than most teams can put together.
Oh, and I can’t believe you’d mention Udonis Haslem and not Fab.
Umm, why didn't Miller have a good year?
shot over 50%, shot 48% from 3. Was over a board per game over his career average in about the same minutes. Yeah he didn’t score as many points as he has in the past, but so what. Better him than Gay or Outlaw who score inefficiently. They waste possessions and don’t rebound as well or get as many assists. Scoring efficiency is so much more important that volume. Rudy and Outlaw do not help their team win.
Also. Haslem is not a better version of Blair. I like Haslem but Blair was just a rookie and had great numbers. Blair is better. HIs per minute stats kill Haslem’s. Well, beat at any rate.
On this list I like J.J. and Blake among the guards, but don’t think we need a guard unless we trade a current one. I like Miller, Barnes, and Wright among the SFs. Wright may be the best fit of the SFs, but they’d all be an upgrade.
I really like Amir but I’m not sure what he brings that Blair doesn’t. I’d like to keep Ian on the cheap if possible. In a big I would for someone who complements Blair, not duplicates.
Miller effectively stopped shooting, turning himself into a facilitating wing. The problem? Miller is one of his generation’s best shooters, a career 40-percenter from three. His team needs him to shoot, shoot, shoot. Miller didn’t revert to form in Washington, though; in fact, he got worse, shooting threes at a frequency lower than any other season in his NBA career.
This is what I am referring to. He’s a scorer and needs to score more, especially on a bad team, which is all that he’s played for recently. I like Miller, but he’s oldish and probably pricey.
I agree with you on Amir, when I wrote this I thought he had better size. If he played big we might be able to use him, but I really don’t know a ton about him.
"He didn't have a good year in DC"
Miller is not just a scorer, for a SG/SF he gets good assists and is a decent rebounder. Yes he’s scores efficiently and of course any team would love to have an efficient scorer score more with the same efficiency. However, you said he didn’t have a good year. Well, he did. If we signed him and he provided that exact same state line to us I’d be very happy. The dude was good. In fact, he was good relative to his career averages. He only suffers in comparison to his best one or two years.
Some player do need to score in order to really help there team. TP is a guy like this. The only thing he does well relative to other players at his position is score efficiently. So when his attempts or efficiency drops he starts to not be so great. Miller has more going on.
I think Wright may be our best bet. As someone pointed out he does have an injury history, but he played 72 games last year and he fits our team needs exactly. Wing defender who can shoot the 3.
As you stated, someone who scores efficiently without many touches would be a great fit for the Spurs. The thing about RJ is that he’s a volume scorer and needs a lot of touches to be effective. With the big 3 + Hill dominating the ball, the chances to score are not predictable so efficiency is the name of the game.
Huh? I fail to see how UH is a duplicate of Blair. Blair is a rebounding specialist. UH is a utility, defensive forward. After watching Dirk and Frye scorch us this year, you’re telling me you wouldn’t want someone who excels at defending stretch 4s? Blair, for all of his rebounding talent, certainly contributed nothing to stopping such players.
Blair has all the tools to become what he’s not when compared to Haslem. The biggest thing that Haslem and Blair have in common is being undersized.
Well, I agree on that, but if the Spurs can’t get Splitter and short on options, they could do worse than Haslem, assuming they got him at low cost. I agree there are more ideal choices, But to say thatd he’s redundant with Blair simply isn’t true. They’re both undersized, but have different skill sets. If anything, he’s more redundant with McDyess. UH could be an affordable option and fits needs on defensive and in toughness, in case McDyess is traded.
I’m more worried about redudancy on offense than defense. In the playoffs Blair had a limited roll because he doesn’t pair that well with TD on O and TD was getting 40 minutes a game. Now, I’m hoping as Blair develops his game this changes some this coming year and he can’t get more minutes with TD on the bench. However, I want Blair to get as many minutes as possible when TD is sitting and this means we need bigs that complement him on the offesnvie end. Getting another undersized big without a good jumpshot is probalby not the way to go.
So you’re saying Blair doesn’t complement Timmy cause he has no jumpshot.
and when Timmy goes to the bench, you want the O to run through Blair so we should get a guy to complement Blair.
that means Blair needs to work on his jumper AND post game…
how many big FA’s available that already possess both?
by FreshmakerDTM on May 26, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
wait…did you not see Blair go for 20/20 either time? It wasnt all pick and roll. The guy has a really good post game already. He just never got touches. I’m not saying there isnt room for improvement, but basically, he just needs more touches. He also torched Amare the few times he got the chance.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on May 26, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
yes, i’m aware that Blair is going to work on his jumper this summer.
and yes, Blair has a little spin move, reverse layup move he does.. but to say he has a really good post game already? i don’t know about that.
by FreshmakerDTM on May 26, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
He also has an up and under, and the drop step. If he learns to make a fade-a-way (which would probably be more detrimental to his overall game) or a hook (hook shots are completely unblockable by the primary defender), he would be one of the top 5 back-to the basket players in the league. (really, name 5. Timmeh, Pau…Juwan Howard? Dont even bother saying Dwight is better. He has no post moves. Amare is more of a face up guy. I havent watched enough of Bynum to know). Again, I’m not saying just bigs in general, but specifically guys who post up and routinely score. I dont have the stats, but i would bet money that he averaged more than 1.5 points per possession when he posted up. Which makes him very, very efficient.
And this is completely ignoring the fact the he can face up and put the ball on the floor against bigs. He’s good at that too. He has above average ball handling ability for a 4/5.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on May 26, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Bynum should be included in any discussion of dominating bigs. If he stays healthy, he’s a really good player that plays well with his back to the basket.
I cant count Oden until he’s healthy for more than half a season.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on May 26, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t think Dejuan Blair has a “really good” post-game either. However, over the course of the season, I saw flashes of potential in Dejuan’s post-game. The Spurs told him he needs a jumpshot, so he’s going to spend the next five plus months developing a jumpshot. Like you, I have ZERO idea how that will turn out, but I have supreme confidence.
As he enters his sophomore season, I believe Dejuan will also have a better understanding of how to play against all the “grown ass men” in the league who have a four or seven inch height advantage on him. Adding a “Dice”-like twelve or fifteen-footer will do wonders to open up the paint for him.
So, I’m really excited to see what Dejuan will show us on the court in 2010-11.
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by transgojobot on May 26, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Not exactly
I’m not sure how you got that I wanted to run the O through Blair. I don’t. However, Blair greatly facilitates our offense by hitting the glass and scoring efficiently in the post. That is, as long as we don’t have two non jump shooters clogging the lane for us and making it easier for the opponent to close out our perimeter shooters.
BTW, as BlaseE says it’s Blair’s priority to develop a J. I just don’t want to count on that with our acquisitions. Getting a big with a J makes that guy better able to play with both Blair and TD, who are our best post players at the moment.
Well, I see your point entirely, and it is fair, but the problem is that we already have that guy in Bonner. Unfortunately, the Blair-Bonner lineup is a complete liability defensively. Assuming that Blair, given his body type, isn’t likely to ever turn into Ben Wallace defensively, we need someone who has the offensive game you desire while maintaining a solid defensive presence. How many players in NBA history fit that mold, nonetheless currently? Kevin Garnett, and Rasheed Wallace in his prime immediately come to mind. Robert Horry definitely fit that role, as did in his prime David. In other words, the Spurs aren’t going to find one that they can afford. Mahinmi seems like he has the workings to be a great compliment to Blair, if only he’d materialize a B-Ball IQ…
McDyess had a decent jumper, too bad he declined so much this year. Also, Blair showed some promise on D. I though he did a good job fronting Amare in limited minutes. He’ll never be a stopper, but he’s got good hands and he’s athletic enough to not be a liability. Combine that with his rebounding and he could end up being a net positive on the defensive side of the floor. However, I’m not sure when this will happen or when, if ever, he develops his jumper. So for kow I’d like to pair him with up a decent defender with a decent jumper. Ideally. May not be possible I know.
he’s good at helping from the weakside. If overall team defense improves, his D will as well. A big part of his perceived defensive weakness early on this year was because everyone was playing crappy D to start the year, so he had no help. It’s never particularly mattered for the Spurs before whether or not you were a great individual defender (although it helps), but whether or not you were good enough to force your man into the waiting help defense and make smart, precise rotations. If the rotations arent there, nobody is going to look very good. Bruce was good 1 on 1, Timmeh was and is pretty good 1 on 1. Other than that, being slightly above average is enough. Playing smart, being where you are supposed to be, and giving 100%.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on May 26, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
He’s also not that great of an individual defender against a large portion of the big men in today’s small ball era. His bulk allows him to defend power players well inside (He proved this against Amare), but he gets eaten alive by quicker bigs who can move around him or shoot over him (as he proved against Dirk).
His help defense shows potential, but he still misses lots of rotations (I’ll accredit this to his being a rookie), and his lack of height will always be an issue here as well.
While I’m certain he’ll grow into a credible defender, I suspect the team will never be able to play him with a mediocre defender like Bonner without giving up quite a bit.
Bonner and Blair were a great second team unit during the regular season. Their defense wasn’t exposed as badly since they weren’t playing against starters. As long as Bonner was hitting his 3s and spreading the floor they got more on O then they gave up on D. Now, I wouldn’t want to start this lineup, but it was good off the bench. Give Blair room in the paint on offense and the guy is great. Clog the lane and surround him with bigger guys and it makes things a lot harder.
The more I think about it the more Haslem makes sense to me. Despite Blair’s height, he plays the opposing center. Haslem gives us a better defensive look than anything we have if he is played alongside Blair.
I’m not sure how you balance the minutes. The move makes more sense if Dice wasn’t already on the roster just because of total front court minutes.
I think so also, and I also think he would have done wonders against the Phoenix bench, given that A)he excels at guarding perimeter bigs and the pick and roll, B)he would actually box out his man, & C)he probably would have knocked Dragic on his ass. None of which Bonner seemed capable of doing. We’d lose the 3 point threat, but that didn’t seem to make a difference anyway, & Blair could help clean up the mess of his lower consistency offense.
Given their likely inability to find a big who shoots and defends well, nonetheless afford him, it really comes down to preference. Do we want more consistency on O or D? I miss the days of the bruising Spurs defensive, so that’s my preference. Granted, if we picked up UH, we’d still need a traditional center (although, still hoping TS would fill this role).
I think we should go after Brendan Haywood, Anthony Morrow and Dorell Wright, im probably just reaching but hey it would be a solid 3 guys to pick up.
Brewer would be a great defensive pickup, hell, he’s better than Mase and Bogans, but we cant afford him.
Suns Fans check their closets for Manu Ginobili Bro.
by SpursNumberUno on May 25, 2010 11:29 PM CDT reply actions
Wright would be realistic. And he’d be cheap. Two things the Spurs could do. They need a big forward. He has played and would fit in well. He will get play time if he plays D and there is a need for the forward spot more than any position (outside of the bigs). Him + some of the D-league youngins and hopefully Splitter would be a successful summer.
Good stuff, and thanks for offering a pretty good look into the FAs. I think Anthony Morrow & Dorell Wright would be fantastic pick-ups. I think that they would be the only non-Spur FAs we would need. If we also re-sign Bonner (for less) and Mahinmi (for the same), as well as sign Splitter and a good mystery draft pick (Stanley Robinson? Paul George? Hell, I don’t know), our off season transactions would be done, aside from keeping choice D-Leaguers (Hairston & Temple top the list, of course).
I like parentheses.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on May 26, 2010 1:49 AM CDT reply actions
“good mystery draft pick”…..
yeah, i bet all the mock drafts in the world couldn’t predict who the front office will pick. for all we know they could sign Pepino Schmidt from Arkansas Tech or something. anyway, i wouldn’t doubt it if the FO didn’t get a Damion James, Stanley Robinson, etc, so whoever they pick I just hope they can contribute right away.
I totalyl agree with your three picks.Well i wished that we could sign Morrow,Tyrus,Tiago,Gay or Salmons and a really good draft pick,that seems unrealistic.
And reading through your list I can say I would love if those three(Dorell,the kid definitely ball,saw 10 heat games this season and he was solid./Barnes,defense, we already have a lot of scorers making us like the 06 suns.,Morrow,he can be the new Mason,cheap and better improved and Amir,watched some toronto games and he definitely can rebound and he is very athletic,its like every time his on the floor his shots are always dunks,anyways we can use his decent pf size and defense..) would be in silver and black next season.So as Ian, I’m not pro re-sign Ian but the guy can ball when his in the d-league and there are lots of gems in the d-league,if the team uses them well,so maybe signing Ian to a 800k won’t be that bad(2 ye contract,and this time let’s hope pop uses this kid,who knows he might be the most improve player.)
So the roster would look like this:(let’s say tiago comes and we waive curtis and gee)
Tim
Tiago
Rj
Manu
Hill
Tp
Dice
Blair
Morrow
Amir
Dorell/Barnes
Draft pick
13 Ian
14Temple
15Draft pick
If Tiago won’t be here,the roster would look like this:
Tim
Amir
Rj
Manu
Hill
Tp
Dice
Blair
Morrow
Ian
Dorell/Barnes
Draft pick
13Temple
14Draft pick
(still undersized but we got a lot of 6-9’s.)
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
oops sorry,yeah malik.Anyways Ian said this:
http://projectspurs.com/2010-articles/may/mahinmi-qmy-decision-will-be-only-based-on-the-playing-timeq.html
Pretty much obvious?So I think we need to sign someone else.
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
Well I think Ian is a freak of nature, seriously he can ball but with his lack of bbiq and being so foul trouble that it just takes the game away from him.Ian can play the D-league level but his NBA level is still questionable.So maybe he can go to GSW and play their 30 minutes and play like his Anthony Tolliver.Maybe that way we can say,he can ball in the NBA—-just not the spurs way
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
Why does Cle want interested in every spurs assistant?
Our successor in this league if San Antonio would lay low is the Oklahoma City Thunder and not the Cavaliers.
http://projectspurs.com/2010-articles/may/budenholzer-on-cavs-wish-list.html
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
I’m pretty sure Pop is well aware of this trend and has been secretly taking imbeciles under his wing for quite some time now in order to sabotage all the scavengers. Mike Brown is Exhibit #1.
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
"I mean, Dartmouth really sucks and Cornell only beat us by 18. Temple will beat the hell out of Cornell. Promise." -- Me
Not Browns fault that Lebron was never paired with a legitimate all star sided kick (Mo Williams, Antawn Jamison and Twilight Shaq do NOT qualify)
Then again, maybe Lebron vetoed a deal that could have brought him such a player, as a recent article suggests
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
sided kick?
spinning birded kick? [/chun-li]
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by transgojobot on May 26, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
falcon kick?
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on May 26, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Brown is one of the worst offensive coaches in recent memory. He had the best player on the planet and decent players surrounding him and the best he came up with was, Lebron gets the ball 30 feet away, everyone else get out of the way. Mike Brown apologists are funny. He was awful. His team lost the last two years for the same reason, he never came up with a plan B, or any kind of offense that did not totally rely on Lebron doing everything. No triangle, no motion offense, no flex. Just crappy one on one basketball that works against the crap teams in the long regular season, but not against a good defensive team in the playoffs. We saw it in ’07 when we swept the Cavs. Mike Brown has been coaching for 6 years and never came up with a plan B. He should have been fired a while ago.
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
"I mean, Dartmouth really sucks and Cornell only beat us by 18. Temple will beat the hell out of Cornell. Promise." -- Me
I completely agree with you, but I wonder if the limited offense is not partly LeBron’s fault. I think it reflects almost as badly on him as it does Brown.
I always thought that teams with a legit guard superstar should go after Laker’s assisstants, not ours. The triangle gave Jordan room to operate one on one, but also forced his teammates to not be spectators. Our offense has always required a big guy to post up on the block and demand double teams. Mike Brown did not grow in Clevland, but what hurt just as much was that he was studying for the wrong final while under Pop. He was pretty much screwed to begin with.
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
"I mean, Dartmouth really sucks and Cornell only beat us by 18. Temple will beat the hell out of Cornell. Promise." -- Me
Yeah, I mostly agree. Part of his problem is that he didn’t develop as a coach. He was good for the Cavs when he got there. He helped them become a good defensive team, but you have to have some development as a coach. Pop is a much better coach than he was in 98.
I agree,Brown’s offense is just LeBron,and I think LBJ also wants it,no,he loves it.And maybe because of that LBJ was soiled.Melo and James were in the same situation when they were rookies,they both need to score to help their team win,but Lebron has gotten to be more of a “diva” as years passed.LeBron as a player, he is needs to have a say on trades and who to sign etc,but he is not a gm and is not part of the fo,and I think whatever that he is doing is just too much.LeBron is spoiled.AI was bad,but not bad as this.If at the age of 32(whatever age that he had last year)If teams didn’t want AI even though he is not that old and is still an all star and fans love him,like AI and Tmac at 29 or 32,Lebron as a free agent or as a player,people will get enough of him,not only that teams won’t love to sign this guy cause his a “brat”.And I guess LeBron will not win a ring,not only that he’ll retire frustrated just like AI(i think AI is not that bad though).LeBron will not have a great career despite being a great human specimen.And not only LBj will retire frustrated but LeBron will retire jealous of Kobe(ok I know you hate the guy,but I don’t hate him that much though).Kobe is going to be more successful than him(obviously).LBJ is only going to win a ring if he will be professional and act like Timmy(Timmy is our best player and is professional,but even with that you can trade his friends, which hurts)
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
ok Ai is 34
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
PS
Ai and tmac are injury prone than lebron is
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
I hope LeBron never wins a trophy unless he grows up and stops being such a diva. I don’t think Brown could really coach him. Brown seemed to be a decent coach though, just not tough enough to deal with “the King”. Phil Jackson would be able to handle him, probably Pat Riley, but barely anybody else. I don’t think Pop would be able to coach LeBron, an absolute anti-Spur.
I don’t think it’s going out on a limb to say that Duncan doesn’t want to play for a losing club.- http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com
I really think the spurs would re-sign Ian since the “project” is still on going on my opinion,maybe they are purposely playing Ian minimal games and maybe increase his games played and playing time as years pass.Interesting.
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
Dorell Wright has managed to play in only 211 out of a possible 492 career games. Injuries he has suffered include a meniscus tear and bilateral patellar tendonitis…..
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
…and Morrow looks to be a typical Warrior. Jacked up offensive stats wrought by playing in Golden states up and down style. He’s restricted, but the team who manages to pry him away will probably end up paying too much. We may as well keep Mason. After wrecking his free agent value this season, we could probably keep him for less than Morrow…
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
Morrow torched the nets in college but went undrafted because he can’t really drive, defend, pass or rebound. These are not issues at Golden State, so it’s a perfect fit.
by doggydogworld on May 26, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey it worked for Steve Kerr as a Spur! I’m sure everyone here would take someone who’s only skill is to stand there and hit shots consistently. The team should have already learned its lesson on this matter anyhow with the Roger Mason PG experiment. Just let him stand there and shoot.
bilateral patellar tendonitis
Blairlolateral propeller tenderness is serious business.
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by transgojobot on May 27, 2010 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
+1.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on May 27, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I’ll take Mike Miller for the BAE
I really like J.Oneal if we can get him cheap.
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
FYI - typo in headline
Offseason is missing second ‘s’
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
If we don’t get Splitter with the MLE, I want Travis Outlaw. He’s a winner, and last year he had some of the highest clutch stats in the league. We’re gonna need another closer like Manu soon.
by Jordan Leithart on May 26, 2010 6:39 PM CDT reply actions
Do the Spurs need more guards? I would love Morrow’s shooting on this team but there is already a logjam at the guard spot. Are there enough minutes to spare?
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
No, there are not minutes to spare at guard. It might make sense to draft a SG and develop him for the future but it makes no sense to sign a free agent SG.
by doggydogworld on May 27, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I disagree. We’ve got 4-5 guards. Temple, Hairston and the other D-league fliers we have are not so valuable that the Spurs shouldn’t be looking at improving for a good price. If you can get a proven shooter (which the Spurs don’t have after the big stars) for cheap, it would be worth giving up on or sending one of those project guys down to Austin.
Having players who fit into certain roles is what you want. The Spurs do not have a “scorer” on the bench outside if Manu or Parker are there. Hairston and Temple might develop into a guy who can do that, but they’re not there yet. Getting a Ray Allen or Morrow type of guy cheap who provides an offensive spark is worth sacrificing a player is redundant.
Well as it stands we have basically a three guard rotation with Hill, Manu and Tony. That worked fine in the playoffs. If a fourth guard is added to the rotation it would provide rest for all of them. (I don’t think even Hill should have to play 32+ minutes a game) Right now we have 1 PG in rotation so if we were to get another 2 then I would think George has to play major back up PG.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Tony, Manu and George at 32 minutes each in the playoffs leaves no room for anyone else. If you want to bring in a legit “scorer” at guard you’re going to have to give him minutes. Which of our three guards should get fewer minutes? Or do you want to run a lot of 3 guard sets in the playoffs?
A specialist like the 2003 Steve Kerr who never plays but is available in a pinch is a different story. I’m all for bringing in such a player, but Allen, Morrow, Redick, etc. are not that guy.
by doggydogworld on May 28, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
If the Spurs were to bring in a guy like Morrow, why would they have to commit to playing him a lot of minutes in the playoffs? That being said, would it be bad to have another good player to help with playing time? Who says that Manu, Parker and Hill have to play 32 minutes a game? Wouldn’t the team be better if they (mostly Manu and Parker) didn’t have to play as much.
I think your view of the guard situation is to narrow. If we can get a scorer who comes off the bench and plays 15-20 minutes of good basketball a game in the regular season, that does nothing but help the other guys have the legs in the playoffs. It seems silly to me to say that we don’t need another guard because there isn’t enough playoff game time available for another guard. That’s a very small part of the basketball season. Also, if the match up is right, 3 guard sets are fine, all the more reason to get a quality scorer.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Roger Mason, Jr., get a lot of playing time this last year? Didn’t Bogans take some time up at the SG position? Why not get a better player like Morrow who will provide that bench scoring. It doesn’t mean he’ll have a large playoff role, but at least he could if we needed scoring. Allen and Redick would probably cost to much to do that with, but a Morrow type shouldn’t.
If we can get a scorer who comes off the bench and plays 15-20 minutes of good basketball a game in the regular season, that does nothing but help the other guys have the legs in the playoffs.
I agree. I’m just saying it’s not Morrow, Allen, Redick, etc. Morrow is a 30 mpg youngster looking to take the next step up the ladder. Coming in to play garbage time and on Manu rest days is a career-killer. Even RMJ understood that and he barely had a career to kill.
Heck, even Michael Finley, whose career is already over, bolted because he couldn’t get minutes. But Ray Allen is going to move the opposite direction? Take less money from a team with less championship potential so he can go from being a post-season hero to picking up George Hill’s scraps? This line of thinking is just a waste of time.
We already have the guys we need to give Manu/Tony/George regular season rest. Our gaping holes are at the 3-4-5. Focus on the need, don’t spend energy adding redundant SGs who will only cause chemistry problems when they can’t break into the rotation.
by doggydogworld on May 31, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
There are minutes to be seen though. Spurs play a lot of 3 guard lineups. Morrow is taller, so he could see time at the 3 in a smaller lineup for example.
Pop would likely move Manu back to the bench where he helps the team the most. Put him with Hill, and they make a great second unit in the backcourt.
Morrow would get to feast off open shots if the defense focuses on Parker’s penetration and Duncan.
Now GSW is high on Morrow so I know that wouldn’t happen. Allen would ask for too much/he’s already won a ring (maybe 2). Although in Reddick’s case, coming off the bench as a shooter, wouldn’t be a bad thing. Pop has shown a commitment to shooters much more even if their defense wasn’t as up to par, beginning with Barry. The Spurs play a game that caters to guys who can shoot, so he’d get many opportunities.
Parker/Hill/Manu are versatile enough to play either guard position. Pop is going to try and keep Parker and Manu’s minutes down.
I bet the cost conscious Spurs have zero interest in trying to get the Morrows and Reddick’s of the world. (Guys who managed to play really well in their contract year, and will incidentally be looking for a big contract).
Fortunately, the Spurs do not need to get any of the shooters on this threads list. There will be bargain players available who no one would ever have thought would be excellent shooters.
The Suns managed to find Jared Dudley{$1,307,640} and Channing Frye {$1,990,000}, two guys that have a far better release and are more accurate than Bonner. (And they make alot less money than Matt Bonner, {$3,256,500})
I am not saying the Spurs should go after Frye (Dudley is not a FA). Frye will probably be looking for a payday. I am just saying such players will be available either via trade, or free agency.
It’s time for the front office to reassert themselves as scouting gurus and find these type of players.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
I heard that Roger Mason will be a FA this year. He may be just exactly a diamond-in-the-rough that we need.
I don’t think it’s going out on a limb to say that Duncan doesn’t want to play for a losing club.- http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com
Heh.
I will catch some flak for this, but I think the Spurs should think about re-signing mason. If he had surgery to repair the ligament, it really must have been bothering him.
Besides, like I said, he could probably be had on the cheap after wrecking his free agent value.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
Eddie House will be an unrestricted free agent. He makes 2.6 million a year, somehow I dont think hes going to find a much better deal anywhere else.
Hes a career 39% three point shooter, and I remember him hitting a few big shots for the Celtics when they won the title.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
With Manu in the back court, that’s not such a bad deal. Manu can handle the ball for the most part while guarding the two and House could “guard” the one from the opposition while sitting in the corner waiting for those passes from Manu.
Why spend money on him when we have George to do exactly that?
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Because we need someone to replace Mason’s shooting. While I’m not saying House is the one guy that the Spurs need to acquire, he does seem to fit the role left by Mason and Finley. While I have faith in Hill, that leaves us with exactly one guard that can hit the 3 at a consistent rate.
Meh…3’s are overrated….just like free throws, defense and ACLs
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
lol
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 5, 2010 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Jason Kopono is also an unrestricted free agent, sporting a gaudy 44% three point shooting mark for his career…only thing with him is he makes 6 million and may want something close to that.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
Kapono
also doesn’t play defense, rebound, handle the ball and a whole lot of other basketball abilities people should be able to do. If we can get another shot blocker then getting guys who are poor at wing defense can be excused a little. But until we get another guy i wouldn’t take any guys who suck on wing “D”
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 5, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t think they’ll take a guy like that (Morrow nor could they afford him), but the guy could be useful if we are throwing out names. Spurs have to try to pick their poisons and hope they can cover up some holes.
Dudley was part of a trade, so it’s hard to pick up a guy in free agency like that. Frye was a good pick up, but he was never a 3-point shooter until he got to Phoenix. He’s always been a midrange shooter who didn’t do much. It was a good risk the Suns took to get him.
It’s not like they didn’t try in this past post season though. It didn’t fully work out. So I can’t blame the front office too much. Nor do I think they are perfect. That’ll never be.
But they do look like they’ve picked up good talent from the D-league and area still underused by the NBA (at least owning the team and having them run your system).
Someone mentioned elsewhere (I think Tim) Tayshaun Prince. This makes quite a bit of sense to me. He’s a utility 3 who’s athletic enough and shoots the 3 decently. He also only has one year left on his contract, so it’s a net neutral for the Spurs in that regard. Would an RJ straight up for Prince trade work?
It looks like they would not be able to do a straight swap. Another guy would be needed to do that deal. I’d love Prince, but I just don’t see why Detroit would do it.
Prince had a very bad season. I wouldn’t take him over RJ at this point. I think RJ could be very good for us next season.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
Well, from what I understand, he was playing with nagging injuries. Not to mention that team wasn’t going anywhere and he (and Hamilton) were on the trading block. As RJ showed last year, having a good prior year doesn’t mean anything either. Prince might just need a change in scenery.
With Prince, the Spurs get a better fit (better shooter and defender) at a slightly cheaper price (allowing them a little bit more money to spend on another FA. Detroit saves more money next year and continues their move toward a more offense oriented team (which their FA moves last year suggest).
It doesn’t seem anymore illogical than praying that RJ better learns the system and drastically improves.
RJ already improved in the 2nd part of the season, and both him and Pop learned a lot during the year. Now you say we throw this all out of the window and start fresh with the guy who used to be good several seasons ago. I just think we have too many guys past their primes already to contend. I would rather try to develop some potential talent from NBDL/Europe/somebody’s bench than take another former star in decline hoping that he will reverse the clock in the Spurs system. The thing is when we had a core of young stars in Timmeh/Manu/Tony, we could bring some veteran players to come from the bench and be useful in limited minutes. Now we have a veteran core of Timmeh/Manu/Tony, and we need to get some young players who could take minutes from our aging veterans.
"We lost so many games that we shouldn't have lost," - Ginobili, May 2010
+1
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jun 6, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Now you say we throw this all out of the window and start fresh with the guy who used to be good several seasons ago.
I hate to break it to you, but this is a moot point. The team already did that by acquiring RJ.Something has to be actually worth something in order to regret tossing it out the window. Otherwise, it’s called “cutting your losses”
That RJ showed improvement is true, that he showed anywhere enough improvement to be worth his contract is another question. I think you’re dreaming if you think he’s going to offer much more than he did at the end of last year. If we’re going to overpay someone, I’d rather do it to someone who plays defense and hits three pointers. And although I’d also prefer a developmental player also, it’s not like Prince would put a long term financial strain, since his contract is comparable (albeit cheaper) to RJ’s anyhow. That would give the team a little bit more breathing room to find a good, young prospect.
I’m not sure they would, but I suspect they’d think about it. If I were RC, I’d at least call the Pistons and ask.
I should point out that I don’t find this a completely ideal trade, just one that might be somewhat realistic that would give the Spurs a better personnel fit and slightly better short term finances without altering their long term situation.
It’s not a “swing for the fences” trade, but seems like a reasonable one if the Spurs are forced (or decide to) simply tweak along the edges.
That puts pressure on those 3 guards to perform though. Spurs were in trouble every time Manu or Hill were in foul trouble. Considering Spurs depend on Hill to be a defender and a scorer, it would be nice to have another guy. Hill can’t be a PG if Manu or Tony are out. To have another swing that can score would be nice.
Temple would have gotten time probably if he were with the team longer. RMJ saw time because of the 3 guard lineup being in foul trouble/needing rest.
The “We-Can-Haz-Max” teams that come out on the losing end (blairlol) of the Lebron/Wade/Bosh Bonanza will throw whatever available money they have at the second-tier players (i.e. Boozer, Joseph Johnson) and then the third-stringers. Those “third-stringers” being guys like Michael Miller, Travis Outlaw, Udonis Haslem and Matthew Barnes. It won’t surprise me to see those latter guys wait it and cash in on the desperation clubs (i.e. NYC).
I just hope the Spurs get the guy(s) they want.
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I’m not entirely sure this will be the case. Given the economic situation and the state of the teams with money, I wouldn’t be surprised if many sit on their hands this summer once the big names are gone. There are enough good-great players scheduled to be FAs next summer, it might be worth it for many of these teams to keep a low payroll and go for better options in a less competitive market next year. They would just have to ask themselves, would they rather overpay for Joe Johnson, David Lee, or Amare this year, or go for Carmelo, Yao, or TP next year? While this year’s FA class is very top heavy, I’d argue that next year, as of right now, looks to be much better top to bottom. I suspect that once the legit max players are gone a few of the 2nd tier will be overpaid (probably Amare & boozer), ditto for the third tier, and then quite a few players are going to earn much less then they think they deserve. I suspect that once the feeding frenzy is over with there’s going to be a good opportunity to get a solid vet at a relative discount.
I would love to see the Spurs get Dorrell Wright. That length would really help us out and give us an ability to guard quicker SF’s and give RJ a rest. Getting Splitter to guard the agile 4’s and Wright to guard the 3’s would give us a very versatile lineup. I like Temple, so I hope he gets more playing time this season.
If we dont get Splitter and Mahinmi walks
I might just lose it, that would be too much to bare. So much time, hype and expectations would have gone unfufilled.
We have no idea what Mahinmi can do, and his athleticism is reason enough to keep him around and give him a genuine shot
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
I’d like to beat up Yawn with my bear hands, just to see if I’d get some fight out of that kid. Although he’d probably beat me up to death first.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on May 26, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
You might be already dead when you try to beat him
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
those “bear” hands must be very big and hairy
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
I think that’s what his trying to say.“bear” hands
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
At some point you have to question the value of Euro picks
if A-you cant afford to bring them over
B-once they do, they ride the pine
C-They play for the Suns
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
The only reason these players didn’t get to play for us is because we are trying to win championships right now, we don’t have the time to develop them ourselves. So we send them over to Europe to play for a while and sometimes they get comfortable there
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
This series is starting to get interesting
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
i picked Boston in 7, still looking good
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
i’m just rooting against the lakers, and almost for the suns.
mostly just against the lakers.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on May 26, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
hope orlando wins in game 7…They could make history,and boston fans would be upset like that of the boston bruins.And the perfect team in this year’s playoffs to achieve such is orlando.hope they win.I root for the suns and orl to the finals.But I don’t really care much who wins since SA is already eliminated and I don’t have to worry about the cavs and the mavs.
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
wow, there are so many inadvertently thrown elbows in these playoffs
Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan
From manu to nash to amar’e to—-wow bos has 3 guys injured and perk is suspended(inevitably)
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
That last tech wasn’t a good call, though. I’d imagine that Stu Jackson might rescind that one. If not, and Big Baby isn’t cleared to play, KG & Wallace will really have to step it up, and that’s if Wallace is available. Otherwise, they’re stuck with KG, Daniels (and he’s iffy), Shelden Williams (who?), and Bonner of the East (lol).
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on May 27, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
For the sake maybe of not being embarrassed Stu and the NBA cleared Perk.Seriously that would really put them to shame,that tech was too “shallow”
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
Daniels had a concussion so I guess he won’t be playing for the next game. And Scalabrine has not been suiting up for the C’s lately. Was he injured or something?
In Manu, we trust.
by day_late_friend on May 27, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember Scalabrine was actually dealing with a few concussions earlier in the season. It’s a little ironic if that’s what get’s him some PT.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on May 28, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
you dont remember shelden williams EXPLODING against us? He was one of the no name guys that beat us more or less single handedly at one point this season.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on May 27, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I know that’s true, but we have that effect with certain unknown individuals. Will it happen with Orlando? We’ll find out tonight, although Perkins will be playing, and he’s the most important of those possibly injured & out bigs. They don’t need Wallace or Daniels to win. Baby Davis would be nice to have, but they could also do without him; everyone else would just have to step up a little more.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on May 28, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
hmm
Ain’t Shaq a free agent? He would be the perfect fit for the Spurs as his terrible free throw shooting is proof of this
well
If we can sign shaq for the vet minimum and he can come off the bench and be productive and yes he is done defensive wise but still if your a small fragile point guard and try to take it to the hole you might just change your mine when some 7ft and 300 pounds is guarding the basket plus he can still block shots.
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