DTOUR 5/18/10: Of Conference Finals games and ping pong balls
by Tim C. on May 18, 2010 11:55 AM CDT
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So, that team that stomped our Spurs out of the playoffs really got stomped last night, huh? Don't worry, there's more basketball tonight. Orlando and Boston go head to head tonight for game 2 of the Eastern Conference Finals. Can Dwight look like a talented big man, or a one-dimensional player with no offensive game? Can the Celts' older stars keep turning back the clock? We'll find out a little more tonight.
But wait, there's more!
The NBA draft lottery is tonight. Obviously, the Spurs won't be in the running for the top pick(stupid Spurs, always making the damned playoffs), but here's who will, and their chances:
| New Jersey Nets | 25.0% |
| Minnesota Timberwolves | 19.9% |
| Sacramento Kings | 15.6% |
| Golden State Warriors | 11.9% |
| Washington Wizards | 8.8% |
| Philadelphia 76ers | 6.3% |
| Detroit Pistons | 4.3% |
| Los Angeles Clippers | 2.8% |
| Utah Jazz (via Knicks) | 1.7% |
| Indiana Pacers | 1.1% |
| New Orleans Hornets | 0.8% |
| Memphis Grizzlies | 0.7% |
| Toronto Raptors | 0.6% |
| Houston Rockets | 0.5% |
There's a lot of teams in there I'd like to NOT have the first pick(Houston, Memphis, Utah), but who do you guys think deserves it? I'd go with Philly - they need something good to happen for them.
Remember, the spirit of the DTOUR is for us to talk about anything and everything. So if there's something on your mind, whether it relates to basketball or not, fire away in the comments.
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Lost is on tonight
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
I missed the first month, so I decided not to watch it in real time. Will it be worthwhile to devote a weekend to watching this last season, when the DVDs come out?
I have 10 episodes on my computer since a month ago or something. Still haven’t watched it.
Remember in the first season, where I could never stop watching… Good times.
"Age ain't nothing but a number!" - Reggie Miller after a Dice block
You can just watch the episodes on Hulu for now.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on May 18, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m a huge fan and I’m really dissapointed in this season. They count on these revelations to hold the show’s episodes but forget to make it compelling. There’s been two great episodes this season, and the rest seemed tired.
abc.com has all the episodes… catch up and watch the finale on sunday
by FreshmakerDTM on May 19, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Somebody remind me, how did Utah get that pick from the Knicks? Was there a high stakes poker game that the Knicks lost out on or did Utah just swindle this pick away?
“Utah owns the Knicks’ first-round pick, an asset that six years ago was traded to the Phoenix Suns as part of the Stephon Marbury deal. Just 55 days later, on Feb. 19, 2004, the Suns traded the pick plus another first-rounder and Tom Gugliotta to Utah for Keon Clark and forward Ben Handlogten.”-nydailynews.com
by FreshmakerDTM on May 18, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
HAHAHA…well played
Wake Forest University: Her sons, they are many, Unrivaled by any
by lets-go-dea-cons on May 18, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL… not sure if you know about it over there, but the auto-tune here is a big joke… rappers using it to sing on tracks.
by FreshmakerDTM on May 19, 2010 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions
If Houston wins, the instantly become heavy favorites next year with Yao coming back…okay maybe not heavy favorites, but they would be really good
While complacency costs, perseverance pays
They’ll be happy to replace Boozer with whatever pick they land(Udoh with the Jazz would be my nightmare).
Free Tiago Splitter!
Udoh seems like he’d be a perfect fit and a Sloan type guy. I’m not completely convinced that Boozer is going to leave though. We’ll see.
"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo
I’m almost positive Boozer stays. It’s more likely they get rid of Kirilenko or Okur so there is more room for Millsap and Boozer to play together, since they figured out this year that they can.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on May 18, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
My Random video of the day…
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. ~ CMoney
I am happy. I am proud. ~ Manu Ginobili
I hope an East team such as the Wizards, Nets or Pacers. We don’t need any more top heavy teams in the West. Plus, those three franchises could use come good news re players.
Isn’t it almost a certainty that Orlando beats Boston tonight?
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
You might break their moojjoo
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
you said it right and they are the first 3 picks
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
if sacramento will land the number 1 pick.Like Kevin they might trade away udrih too.
has there been a team with at least 1% landed the number 1 pick?that would be great.
oops its already 8,I’ll watch the draft lottery
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
oops wbber’s sactown had the worst chance of getting a pick and they landed webb
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
wow philly wiz and nj for the number 1 pick….i hope wiz gets it.
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
me too
i am happy they are all east coast teams
by gunnin' gervin on May 18, 2010 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions
nj 3rd!and wiz is 1st!
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
Maybe this is actually good news for the teams not based in DC:
From the official Spurs twitter account:
Since NBA Draft lottery began in ’85, only 1 team w/no. 1 pick (Spurs) has won a title
Oh yeah.
Free Tiago Splitter!
And the Spurs did it with two #1 picks!
by doggydogworld on May 19, 2010 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Me thinks that Arenas is going to be available to anyone willing to take on his dumb ass contract
While complacency costs, perseverance pays
Thankfully Wall did not end up in NJ. Wall would make them too good considering the team they might have next year. And did I hear their owner say he wants to make the Nets a more “international” team? Does this mean he trades all American players just for the heck of it…..
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
I hate Boston.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on May 18, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
He would be a great Spur. Brent Barry and Michael Finley with more athleticism and less of a passer than Barry
"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo
I mean, color me unimpressed with our shooting this year, you know?
"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo
You left for the US and still have vacation leaves? That’s a pretty awesome job.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on May 18, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Reddick’s passing is underrated, but certainly not as good as Barry’s. Also, Wasn’t Barry pretty athletic? I think more so than Reddick
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on May 18, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
he never had stop and go quickness or great lateral movement. especially not by the time he played for us
"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo
Brent won the slam dunk contest. ’Nuff said.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on May 18, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
not when he was a Spur. And he won that off a straight line dunk
"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo
Yeah, that was a pretty pathetic dunk. And weak competition, I don’t even remember the guys he beat.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on May 18, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe im the only one but
Phoenix will not do the same thing in this series as they did to Portland and us.
Their bench wont look so almighty
Suns Fans check their closets for Manu Ginobili Bro.
What, you mean win?
True. They might not do that.
"Whereas I never went fly like some of the boys." -- Ice
Dominate while winning
Suns Fans check their closets for Manu Ginobili Bro.
by SpursNumberUno on May 19, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Rondo’s a stud. I can only hope George can turn into someone as good as Rajon or at least close to his level.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on May 18, 2010 10:09 PM CDT reply actions
Hill is at least the better shooter, right? Or maybe the Suns have something to say about that…
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on May 18, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
it was a bad call. the nba needs to reevaluate their block versus charging calls. Way too many charging calls the past 2 years
"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo
I put up something about Javie in the FanShots. Check it out :)
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on May 18, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Draw up a good plan, Stan Van.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on May 18, 2010 10:30 PM CDT reply actions
Ziiiing.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on May 18, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
hah, yeah
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on May 18, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I raise you a Dwight Howard elbow jumper.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on May 18, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Half-choker, full-time chucker.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on May 18, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
GOL
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on May 18, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn Finley. He probably gets another shot at a ring.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on May 18, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
he’s got a real good shot
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on May 18, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t care what happens as long as Kobe doesn’t get his 5th ring, ever.
"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo
But… I don’t want KG to get another ring, either. This is such a lose-lose situation.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on May 18, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
if kg gets 2 no one is going to say he’s greater than Duncan. If Kobe gets his 5th, forget about it
"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo
I am reminded of the Pau Gasol robbery, yet again. Hai, life.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on May 18, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay. Now I hope the Celtics sweep them. A) It might make them blow up the team (unlikely), and B) at least no one will get full points.
I smell death... everywhere.
kinda sad, kinda nice
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on May 18, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Selfish.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on May 18, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Later, dood.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on May 18, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
night
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on May 18, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Don’t worry, people, that Celtics have only defended their homecourt. It’s not a series yet.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
Orlando
They are in major trouble…
Dwight is going to be guarded one on one…He has no post game so no one fears him….They dont have hedo or Rafer to penetrate and create space for Dwight and the shooters…
Orlando has shooters and a center who cant post up….Thats not a combination thats gonna beat a championship team..
OK, hypothetical question…
BlaseE posted something similar to this over on Ridiculous Upside this morning, but I wanted to get the PtR pulse. IF we haven’t heard whether or not Tiago is coming by draft night, and there’s a decent big man like Solomon Alabi still on the board, along with a couple of quality small forwards(Pondexter, Robinson, etc.), who would you prefer the Spurs pick?
Free Tiago Splitter!
Alabi
If we can have Splitter along with Alabi,Duncan,and Blair,we’ll have solid depth at the big man position….If we dont get splitter,its even more imperative to get Alabi..
We have small forwards in the d-league or we can use a second rounder..
As for Richard Jefferson,he just cant play with Tony Parker..Plain and simple..
Depends on the big but I like Alabi a lot. Then if we do end up getting Splitter on top of the big we drafted I say don’t resign Bonner and use our BAE on a wing player. Actually even if we do sign Splitter before the draft this route sounds good now that I think about it.
Big man rotation: Duncan, Blair, McDyess, Splitter, Alabi
Wings: Manu, Jefferson, Hairston, George (though I’m increasingly disliking him playing the 2 where he is undersized rather than PG where he’s a walking mismatch)
PG: Tony, George, Temple
Add in whatever other wing we could sign with the BAE and I think we’re good
"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo
Agreed
That is an incredible big man lineup. I also haven’t given up on Jefferson yet. He might still show up.
Wake Forest University: Her sons, they are many, Unrivaled by any
by lets-go-dea-cons on May 19, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
when is the earliest we can SIGN Splitter IF he decides to come play for us? July 8th?
(apologies if this has been discussed before)
It seems that we would have to wait until July 8th, as according to Larry Coon the salary cap isn’t set until then, which means the MLE and BAE probably aren’t either. But that’s just a guess.
Typically July 1st is the start of the free agency period in that people can agree in principal to terms, but they have to wait unit the moratorium is over…7 days later…and the cap, tax, and exceptions set to actually ink the deal. That’s what happened last year with Villanueva and Gordon to the Pistons.
While complacency costs, perseverance pays
With international players, the team and player can agree to terms prior to July 1st. It’s only free agents that are already in the NBA that teams have to wait until July 1st for. But there’s usually a week or so moratorium on the actual signing after the cap/MLE levels are set.
Free Tiago Splitter!
we should have a Splitter countdown on the front page.
by FreshmakerDTM on May 19, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
Wake Forest University: Her sons, they are many, Unrivaled by any
by lets-go-dea-cons on May 19, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Imma disagree with that. Yes, I think that Tiago is a big part of this being a “successful” summer for the Spurs, but we’ve been hurt before. Remember the summer when we all thought that Javtokas was coming over, and then the FO split the MLE between Elson and Jackie Freakin’ Butler?
I would hate for us all to get our collective hard-ons raging and then end up with a case of blue basketballs
While complacency costs, perseverance pays
what’s an fo?
Wake Forest University: Her sons, they are many, Unrivaled by any
by lets-go-dea-cons on May 19, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
thnx
Wake Forest University: Her sons, they are many, Unrivaled by any
by lets-go-dea-cons on May 19, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry you disagree, but pretty much every Spur fan is already hype about the possibility of Splitter coming over. Also, the blue basketballs would be nothing new since we’ve been waiting for 3yrs…
by FreshmakerDTM on May 19, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m hyped to, I’ve just been hurt too many times
All I’m saying is we don’t need a counter to up the anticipation and potential for frustration
While complacency costs, perseverance pays
whats the difference in a counter and everyone saying, “we need Splitter”?
if we can’t be hype about getting Splitter.. then what in the offseason should we look forward to? Watching all the big name free agents sign with other teams?
by FreshmakerDTM on May 19, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
We look forward to one day being abso-f2king-lotely surprised by what the FO pulls out of its ass. Say what you will about how it turned out, but getting RJ for what he was gotten for was pretty damn impressive…same for Turkoglu back in the day.
We never, never know what these dudes will do, so sitting around with baited breath for Splitter could end up reaping nothing but heartache
While complacency costs, perseverance pays
The dilemma
there isnt enough minutes to play george hill at the point..
Thats where the whole notion of trading tp comes in to play….
Even if Nando comes over as a playmaker next season, I’d be extremely hesitant to trade Tony. You’d have to get enough back to at least approximate Tony’s impact on the game, which is not exactly easy to get.
Free Tiago Splitter!
Yep. Even if we’ve already seen Tony’s ceiling I’m fine with that. He’s at another level of a scorer when he’s on and healthy. Hill is a dime a dozen type player. And because I know I’m gonna take heat for saying that here are some players that, like Hill, are combo guards (which is a nice way of saying- not creative enough to be a pg but too small to be a shooting guard). Guys that rely on their first step and open jump shots.
Russel Westbrook, Devin Harris, Monta Ellis, Jason Terry, Leandro Barbosa, Darren Collison, Lou Williams and the list could go on with lesser players…
I know Westbrook is a sexy pick to maybe put ahead of Tony but really none of these guys impact the game like Tony can.
"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo
there isnt enough minutes to play george hill at the point.
Works out OK since he’s not good at the point.
by doggydogworld on May 19, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I see Nando of Colo as more of a Brent Barry type in the role that he would play with the Spurs…could be wrong though
BTW any idea what the origin on the surname “de Colo” is ?
While complacency costs, perseverance pays
Colo is French for Cool
Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan
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