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Remaking the Spurs, part 2: Small Forward

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Just in case it wasn't made painfully obvious this past season, the Spurs could desperately use a small forward not named Richard Jefferson.  That's not really RJ's fault; he's just the only small forward on the team.  So, what else is out there?  Quite a bit, actually.  

Let's take a look.

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What to look for

First, what qualities do we need?  In my mind, the ideal SF is a guy who plays great defense and knocks down open shots at a good clip.  Bruce Bowen was an excellent fit for this team because he provided both (and the defense was way beyond just great).  We're not likely to land anyone as good as Bruce, but there are definitely options.  

The Spurs Products and Draft Picks

Malik Hairston - Malik's better off sticking to SG, but his length and disgusting athleticism enable him to play the 3 with some success.  I doubt Malik's roster spot is in any real danger - he just has to show once again why he earned rotation minutes in the latter half of the season.  In fact, I'd like to see him spend the summer working on the corner 3.  If he can nail those at a good rate, he's a virtual lock to make the team and be in the rotation.

Marcus Williams - I like Marcus, I really do . . . but he's going to have a tough time (yet again) making the team.  His defense leaves a lot to be desired. He might be a good asset to have as an emergency option.  Still, he's going to have to look better than the next two guys on this list - both in summer league and training camp - if he wants to land a spot on the Spurs' roster.

Alonzo Gee - I remember watching this guy in summer league last year and thinking that he looked better than some of the players that we've actually drafted.  He was also the D-League rookie of the year, so he's definitely caught people's attention.  He's athletic and has a knack for putting the ball in the basket, in addition to being a good rebounder for his position.  He's probably the second most likely member of this group to be on the team this year behind Malik.  He's also better off playing the 2, like Malik . . . but I think he's big enough and good enough for spot minutes.

James Gist - Wherefore art thou, James?  He sort of fell off the face of the earth due to an injury, and then only played for about 1/4th of the season for Lokomotiv Kuban over in Russia.  His stats weren't very good, but it's impossible to make a judgment with such a small sample size.  We'll probably see James in summer league again if the Spurs are still interested.

Romain Sato - Here's a real dark horse.  The Spurs drafted this kid a long time ago (he's now 28), and he's since become one of the best defensive players in Europe (according to some accounts I've read) while shooting 43% from three.  However, he's definitely undersized at 6'5" (liberal estimate) despite having a huge wingspan.

Viktor Sanikidze - We've had his rights since 2007, and - like Sato - he seems to have had a great season in Italy.  it wouldn't hurt to take another look.  He's 6'8", and shoots the ball at a very good clip.

The Draft

Most fans believe (and they're probably right) that the Spurs' best chance at landing a small forward who meets the criteria this off-season lies in the draft.  The Spurs currently hold the #20 and #49 picks.  Whoever they take with the 49th pick is probably not going to be useful next season, so I'd look for them to go after a foreign player who is already under contract for next season, or possibly even trade the pick for something else.  And if Tiago Splitter is on his way, the Spurs can concentrate on getting a SF with that first-round pick.  With that in mind, here are some of the names you can expect to be thrown around as possible targets for the Spurs:  

(most of these names are taken from the DX Mock Draft)

Damion James - I'll confess to not watching a lot of college b-ball over the last year, but the highlights of James are pretty impressive.  Also, he's a Longhorn, which is a very, very good quality.  Oh, you want to know about basketball ability?  With James, everyone seems to say the same thing:  he's one tough customer.  That's what I like to hear.  It would be sooo nice to get another tough guy out there, especially on defense - we need it.  Also, "wingspan" and "athleticism" are never dirty words, no matter what Pop says.  I doubt he drops to us, but if he does. . . .

James Anderson - Calm down, CapHill.  Anderson seems like more of a 2 than a 3, and we don't need smallish guys continuing to play the 3.  Now, if we could somehow land a second first-round pick, I'd love to have this guy. He's one of the best pure scorers in the draft and would be a great option to bring off the bench behind Manu (or start in front of him, depending on how Pop sees it).

Gordon Hayward - Good basketball IQ, which is always a plus for Spurs prospects, but he's not a very good defender, and would be even more exposed against NBA small forwards.  DX also says that his 3-point shooting suffered because he was the focal point of the Butler offense, but I still find it suspect.  Not the guy I'd like the Spurs to take, but they could do much worse.

Stanley Robinson - This is the guy I want.  Look at the list of strengths that DX has for him (BTW, they also have the Spurs drafting him in their mock - sweet).  Among those strengths are efficiency, ability to contest shots, ability to defend multiple positions, lateral quickness--this guy is a natural defensive stopper.  He's also 6'9" with a large wingspan - think George Hill, but 7 inches taller.  Please FSM, let the Spurs land this exquisite defensive specimen.

Paul George - Good size and athleticism, and definitely a talented scorer.  Average rebounder, but makes free throws at a 90% clip - not very Spur-like.  The Spurs have already invited him and Xavier Henry in for workouts, so they might be feigning interest in him to throw other teams off the trail, or they could actually see him as part of the future.  Only Pop and maybe a couple of other people know, and they're not talking.

Quincy Pondexter - A popular name at PtR for the last couple of months, Pondexter does a lot of things decently well, but isn't spectacular at any one thing.  He's the quintessential role player, who can be helpful at both ends of the court while not standing out.  This has endeared him to many of the Spurs faithful, but he's a bit undersized, which means that he wouldn't be an option as a smallball 4(and we all know there will be smallball).

Luke Babbitt - I should make something clear right off the top here:  defense isn't something this guy does well.  What he does do, however, is make 50% of his shots(and 42% of his threes).  Even though many of us think the Spurs need more defense, do not be surprised if they opt for shooting in the draft and find defensive ability elsewhere.  Except Babbitt does more than just shoot - he can drive, he can pass, and he seems to have a high b-ball IQ.  Nope, it wouldn't be shocking at all - just not my choice.

Devin Ebanks - Good size, terrible three-point shooter.  Also seems to have had some off-court issues, which won't endear him to the Spurs.

Darington Hobson - Little-known player from a relatively unheralded school.  Sounds familiar, no?  NBADraft.net even has us taking him... in the second round.  Since the Spurs sometimes go for guys like this when others overlook them until later, this wouldn't be a shocking pick for me.

Nemanja Bjelica - Dude is 6'10", and currently plays the 2.  Not kidding.  He'd probably be more of a point-forward type in the NBA, however, so I'll put him here.  Ridiculous size, good shooter... it wouldn't be shocking to see this be our second round pick, since getting these guys out of Europe always seems to be tough.

Free Agency

This is the least likely place for us to address the need at SF.  Also, most of these guys are known commodities, so I won't bore you with lots of details.  But here we go anyhow.

Raja Bell - He's likely to end up in Miami, but he brings everything we need, and has playoff chops, which is more than we can say about any draft pick.  Undersized, but good enough defensively to make up for it.

Mike Miller - Likely to command more money than we can offer, but we'd have the MLE if Splitter doesn't come over.  Miller would definitely help with our shooting woes.

Kyle Korver - See above.

Matt Barnes - He's not a great 3-point shooter, but he'd be a quality role player.

Rasual Butler - Good option in our likely price range.  Good defender, decent shooter (especially when he isn't playing for the Clippers).

Michael Finley - tee hee

Linas Kleiza - Denver still holds his rights, but he's been the season MVP for Olympiacos(ahead of Childress, even).

Josh Howard - If the FSM is merciful, Howard will never sniff the home locker room at the AT&T Center.

Dorell Wright - Other than the DUI, seems like a Spurs guy.  Good(enough) shooter, good defender.

Ime Udoka - It's out there.  Deal with it.

Ronnie Brewer - If he doesn't take the qualifying offer, or if Memphis withdraws it, he'll be restricted.  Can't shoot the 3 to save his life.

Travis Outlaw - Not a great defender, but he sure can score.  Good shooter, and he would make a good smallball PF.

Josh Childress - Pretty please?  Though he's technically still Atlanta property, they may look to sign and trade him, especially if they think they can get Joe Johnson back.  If they can't get Johnson back, they may still be amenable to the idea of a sign-and-trade if they can land more scoring.  Marvin Williams is an excellent defender in his own right, so Childress is more of a luxury to the Hawks than a necessity.  Pick up the phone, RC.

Trades

This was going to be a lot longer, with some examples.  But I like the idea of opening this up to suggestions for the PtR readership.  As stated above, I like the idea of trading for Josh Childress - a lot.  Manuwar also recently posted a Fanpost with lots of nice options (even though I find some of them a bit fantastic).

PtR, this is your chance to shine.  Find some good trades out there that work financially and actually make sense for both teams.  This means no Durant trades.  Leave your ideas in the comments, and be sure to tell me how much my ideas up above suck.  Thanks.

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so we have no chance at Lebron? just checking. hehe.

by FreshmakerDTM on May 14, 2010 8:57 AM CDT reply actions  

thanks for info on the draft prospects.. i have no idea who any of them are…

as for the FA’s listed above…i’m diggin Outlaw.. I liked him in Portland a couple years ago.. he took over 4th quarters for Portland every now and then even when Roy/LA were on the court. Plus he’s long, athletic, decent defender, and I think can fit into the system. He can shoot the 3 as well. He was limited due to injury last year and being traded to the Clips, but i wouldn’t be mad if we went after him and if he comes cheap, thats even better.

by FreshmakerDTM on May 14, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice write up Tim. I like some of the draftees you listed. It’d be nice to get a couple of those guys in order for the odds of one of them panning out to be higher. I have never even heard of Romain Sato or Viktor Sanikidze. What are the odds that either of them make a splash?

Well, this makes me excited about the draft. There’s way more out there than I thought. I’ll check out some trade ideas later and hit you with those.

by Big50 on May 14, 2010 9:17 AM CDT reply actions  

I’ve never heard of Sato either, and for some reason I thought Sanikidze was a center. I guess I lumped him in with Tiago, Javtokas, and probably some other guy, haha.

"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair

by Manu ex Machina on May 14, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

The three foreign centers you are thinking of Manu Ex are Tiago, Javtokas, and Karaulov

While complacency costs, perseverance pays

by B.diddy on May 14, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know a little about Sato

He played at Dayton Christian High here in Dayton. He came here from Africa to get out of poverty and other bad situations and had no previous organized basketball experience, yet he came in and led Dayton Christian High to the State semi-finals. Dayton Christian never had nor never has since had a team to get to the final 32 in the state. He was hyped big time and ended up going to Xavier U, just down I-75. He was a long player but not very thick. When he got to college he had problems earning his keep with the big boys (got pushed around a little). He was very accurate from 3 point land in High school. Didn’t play his freshman year (I think injury). play more small forward because of his lack of “size/weight” and again was very good from 3 point land. Somewhere between late in his sophomore and early Junior season he lost his “mojo” shooting from the outside. Since that was a big part of his game the hype died out and he faded into obscurity. Though mush of the hype was local (SW Ohio) he was expected to be a beast.

If he has added some muscle and gotten his shot back he could make some noise. However unless he has shaken that softness that showed up in college, i wouldn’t bother. That’s my 2 cents on him.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on May 14, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Odds are low with Sato. I just looked him up on a whim, and saw that he’d been doing well. If I remember right, the Spurs no longer hold his draft rights, because he pulled a McClinton and signed a deal the Spurs had to offer when the Spurs had no intention of keeping him for the year. It’s nice to see that he’s been doing well, though.

Free Tiago Splitter!

by Tim C. on May 14, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think with Temple, you got a guy who is nearly as long but has more versatility. So I doubt they would look at him. I think Spurs are really trying to go longer. Gee and Marcus Williams provide more on the length aspect for the 3. And Temple provides enough to play a 3-guard lineup without giving up too much size.

by grego21 on May 15, 2010 4:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for putting this together, Tim.

I went to Texas and I think people are way too high on Damion James. I hope to root for him in the NBA next season, but I don’t really think he is the guy the Spurs need. He would have been a great second round pick last year though to play with the Toros.

by BlaseE on May 14, 2010 10:15 AM CDT reply actions  

As another longhorn fan I disagree. I think he could he can be a great pick. He can defend, he’s a monster on the glass (which translates well to the NBA), he has a solid jumper from mid range and 3 and is can finish at the rim. What he can’t do is create and will likely never be able to. However, if what we’re looking for is a perimeter defender who can hit corner 3s and grab some boards then I think he could be a good fit.

I’m not sold on Stanley Robinson, college seniors without elite production don’t seem like good first round picks. If he had that performance as a freshman or sophmore I’d be more excited.

by bduran on May 14, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Graydon of 48MoH commented to me last year that he wasn’t drafted because teams were under the impression he didn’t have enough BBIQ.

The comment may have been prior to the draft actually. Either way he had an agent and was projected as a a second rounder and no team wanted him. I didn’t see anything this year that he hasn’t shown in previous years to make me want to draft him. The 20th pick needs to be a smart one, we don’t just want a workhorse. Our franchise hasn’t made a pick this high since Duncan. This should be a big player in terms of the franchise going forward. I’m not saying it is a franchise pick though….

by BlaseE on May 14, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

His DX profile lists “off court red flags” as a weakness. No clue what that is about but doesn’t sound too much like a Spur

"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich

by bj1der on May 14, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

That’s weird. In four years at Texas he’s been a good kid by all accounts with no issues. He did come from a rough back ground but he’s a hard working team player.

BlaseE

I agree that you’ll never build a team around him, but he’s a good producer. I also agree about his BBIQ not being a strength, but he gets knocked harder for that then he should and no one should draft him as to lead an offense anyway. I think trying to guarantee a “star” at 20 could increase our chances of a bust. What I like about James is that the things he does well tend to translate well to the NBA, especially the rebounding. I want us to draft a wing, and the things I want from a wing on the Spurs are corner 3, rebounding, and D. So in that context I’ll be excited if we get him at 20.

by bduran on May 14, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

You make good points.

I couldn’t find anything about off court red flags on draft express for him. Wrong player?

by BlaseE on May 14, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think there was some confusion

The " off court" flags apply to Robinson I believe not Jones

While complacency costs, perseverance pays

by B.diddy on May 14, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

The confusion continues, I meant James as in Damion, not Jones

While complacency costs, perseverance pays

by B.diddy on May 14, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was referring to Stanley Robinson, his profile shows it as a weakness. Just to clear up any confusion

"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich

by bj1der on May 15, 2010 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Off-Topic

Anyone know what this is about?

MoneyMase: Headed to surgery. keep me in your prayers tweets., and I hope everyone has a great friday!

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by Fred Silva on May 14, 2010 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

His hand needs surgery… he tweeted about it yesterday. It was oh-so-nice of him to lay that revelation on us after he couldn’t hit a damn thing in the playoffs.

Free Tiago Splitter!

by Tim C. on May 14, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

There wasn’t no mystery about his hand during the playoffs. Anyway, his shot deserted him long before he hurt his hand.

by doggydogworld on May 14, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

He brought it up earlier in the season, but after the trade deadline. He kept it from the Spurs staff for a while though. That’s about the time he got the splint on his hand. Selfish, if you ask me for not saying anything. He might have cost Temple more playing time for his selfish acts.

by grego21 on May 15, 2010 4:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

It’s worth noting that DraftExpress currently lists only Evan Turner, Aminu from Wake, and Wesley Johnson from Syracuse as the only players to be SF, SG/SF, or SF/PF’s higher than the guys Tim listed above. These 3 are all projected as top 10 picks.

So in terms of the 20th pick, we could be looking at the 4-7th best SF prospect. I also think we are looking for a SF with some size which could arguably make it so only 2 or 3 guys we wanted more at the position are drafted ahead.

by BlaseE on May 14, 2010 11:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Great job Tim. Like you, Stan’s the man but he needs a haircut. Our guys have been playing so many different positions due to hurts and Pop’s guard to forward rotation and back and forth of some team members it’s real hard for them to know who and what they are suppose to be. I agree with you that a return to “Bowen” would work better.

by indiancharlie on May 14, 2010 11:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Wonderful post Tim. This is definitely one of the team’s key needs. I want the Spurs to go back to playing a traditional line up on the floor and stay away from the long periods of small ball (which should only be an adjustment to change the pace of the game, not your entire game plan) Whoever the Spurs pick up would have to be strictly a 3 because we already have enough guards

"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich

by bj1der on May 14, 2010 11:55 AM CDT reply actions  

I agree with this sentiment, which is why I’m leaning towards Robinson. He’s got 3/4 size and is a versatile defender, which are qualities we need a more polished scorer, IMO. If we got Hobson in the 2nd round, I’d be ecstatic. He’s an extremely versatile point-forward on the offensive end – great court vision.

by CapHill on May 14, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Many times this year the Spurs played their small line up with mixed results. Im wondering if the opposite is a possibility. Can the Spurs play an occasional big line up in which Blair plays SF? I remember Blair defending Grant Hill a bit in the Phoenix series being able to stay in front of him but Hill still being able to knock down the jumper. Im thinking this might have some potential against teams without a dynamic SF in their second units. Im thinking of a scenario offensively in which Bonner and Dyce play center and PF spreading the floor while Blair is left to post up against the opposing team’s SF.

"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG

by LasEspuelas on May 14, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Compared to small ball we actually had the combination of Bonner, Dyce and Blair on the floor for a whooping 0.17 minutes during the regular season in a game against Memphis. Mason, Manu, Bonner, Blair and Dyce faced up against Tinsley, Sam Young, Carroll, Steven Hunter and Thabeet for one offensive possession. We missed but got the offensive rebound. I have no clue what the situation was but it happened once.

"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG

by LasEspuelas on May 14, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like that way of thinking, throw something different out there. I don’t think it would work out so well having Blair play the 3. His post game isn’t good enough yet to punish the other teams SF and he would get torched by just about anyone with a pull up J. Since Haislip left the only Big line-up that we can play would be Manu-RJ-Bonner-Dice-Tim or Tim-Tiago if it happens that way.

"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich

by bj1der on May 14, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

The reason I was interested in Blair as SF is that he actually is 6-7. I wonder what his objective is going to be this summer. Is he going to slim down a bit or he is planning to maintain his weight.

Bonner, Dyce and Tim combination did not happen at all this year. If Blair gets smoked by the opposing SF then Dyce or Bonner would be even worse. This is probably why this type of lineup does not work. It would have to be very coordinated help defense and a switch in focus to getting ORebs.

But offensively it has possibilities. Hill in the corner three, Bonner at the three point line in the wing, Dyce were he likes to be and Manu and Blair playing the pick and roll on the other side. It could also be effective with Tony instead of Manu offensively.

"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG

by LasEspuelas on May 14, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’d like to see Blair a little lighter if possible. He plays so much on the pick and roll plus anything to reduce the load on his ACL-less knees.

by BlaseE on May 14, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Based on Blair’s twitter, it sounds like he’s going to work on a jump shot. My guess is a 15 footer is what they’ll try to build up.

by grego21 on May 15, 2010 4:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, let’s just hope it doesn’t turn out like Malik Rose did, when he quit scrapping for rebounds after he learned to shoot.

by Neuwaldegg on May 15, 2010 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Blair’s mindset is a little bit different. Spurs have also already rewarded him with a decent contract. Blair’s biggest growth will come from his ability to play smarter defense and foul less. That’ll be more valuable than the scoring per say.

by grego21 on May 15, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he scores per say I hope he says a lot. Scores per LOL maybe? ; )

"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG

by LasEspuelas on May 15, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice

You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime

by the little o on May 16, 2010 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m going to be real “happy” if the spurs use the 20th pick on an euro player

"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili

by spursfan87 on May 14, 2010 12:08 PM CDT reply actions  

WalterFootball.com’s SF draft rankings

Singler is listed there but isn’t in this year’s draft. He would be a competitive option though.

Their mock:

20. San Antonio Spurs: Damion James, SF, Texas, 6-8, Sr.
Michael Finley was released and Richard Jefferson has not acclimated himself in San Antonio like the Spurs had hoped, so a wing player is the best route to go. James brings a great deal of collegiate experience and toughness that fits well with the Spurs’ style of play.

Think: Wilson Chandler

by BlaseE on May 14, 2010 1:34 PM CDT reply actions  

I like Chandler, so that comparison isn’t makign me think any less of him. But most mocks have James going before #20.

Free Tiago Splitter!

by Tim C. on May 14, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice job, Tim C. Question…If we took Robinson (who I like if for no other reason, cause of his last name), do you think he would have an impact right away?

by titansfan4ever on May 14, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

He’d have a learning curve, for sure. But he has the physical tools and the commitment to be a dominant defensive player – maybe if the Spurs could have Bruce work with him during the summer…

Free Tiago Splitter!

by Tim C. on May 14, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

How come so many players with the “physical tools to be a dominant defensive player” are not actually dominant defensive players?

by doggydogworld on May 14, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably lack of attention to that side of the floor, or low BBIQ… or both. Robinson seems to relish the idea of being a stopper from what little I’ve seen.

Free Tiago Splitter!

by Tim C. on May 14, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

He surely has the physical tools to fit the job. The Spurs don’t draft guys with bad attitudes so if they pick him we’ll know what he’s like. Even though Captain Jack was a loose cannon we all know how hard he plays

"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich

by bj1der on May 15, 2010 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also, I would love to see Raja Bell in a Spurs uniform, but how probable is it?

by titansfan4ever on May 14, 2010 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

He’s been on Miami radio publicly announcing his intent to play for the Heat, if they want him. So, not likely. Too bad, he could’ve been useful.

Free Tiago Splitter!

by Tim C. on May 14, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

It’ll be interesting to see how long Raja’s willing to wait it out, while Miami plays ‘footsie’ with Wade, Lebron, Boozer and Bosh. Is he the patient sort?

...!!

by transgojobot on May 14, 2010 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I may be wrong but I figure he’s washed up by now. No way to know since he was injured most of the season

"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich

by bj1der on May 15, 2010 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I feel like if we just throw our 20th pick (Robinson, James, Haywood, etc.), Gee, Hairston, and Williams into the fire, we are bound to see at least one of them standout and make the rotation. If Hairston or Williams step up, it would be awesome to send Twenty and Gee back to the Toros for minutes and some D League domination.

Mike Miller and Outlaw are the only FA’s I like and neither is worth our money compared to Splitter.

by BlaseE on May 14, 2010 3:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Read this in ST.

Parker was on the French radio today. He basically said the same thing that this interview but he added an interesting tidbit: Spurs owners have lost $20M this year. . I only wish Mr.Holt gains some money next year. I will go buy some Spurs merchandise today.

Keep the faith!!

by Heman on May 14, 2010 5:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Sorry about the totally unrelated comment here.

Keep the faith!!

by Heman on May 14, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

All right here are the top 10 SFs in the draft according to WS40 (from draft express)

Damion James 15.6
Wesley Johnson 13.2
Evan Turner 12.6
Luke Babbit 12.6
Quincy Pondexter 12.3
Al-Farouq Aminu 12
Landry Fields 11.8
Tyler Smith 11.7
Gordon Hayward 11.6
Darrington Hobson 11.4

Others of note, Paul George 10.5, Stanley Robinson 9.7

I want any junior/senior draft picks to have production at least as good as those top 10, they have less room to grow. I’m not a fan of drafting a lower producer like Robinson because he could be the next Bowen. You have to be really good at D to produce at a well below average level but not hurt the team. You have to reduce the guy your guarding’s production by more than an average player would relative to what an average player would out produce you. Did that make sense? I’m confused.

by bduran on May 14, 2010 6:57 PM CDT reply actions  

I’m not a fan of drafting a lower producer like Robinson because he could be the next Bowen.

Isn’t this exactly what we want? And I’m sorry but your last couple sentences were hard to understand

"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich

by bj1der on May 15, 2010 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think he’s putting emphasis on could. He’s saying that he doesn’t have enough overall skills to be worth the pick unless his defense is at an elite level. He’s questioning the likely hood of that, because, well, Bruce Bowen’s don’t come along every day.

by Neuwaldegg on May 15, 2010 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

For my money this is the make or break position concerning the Spurs prospects for winning another title in the next two or three years. This "compliment" offensive position, which has been filled nicely by the likes of Bowen, Barry, Horry and others recently, has turned into a blister on the team’s backside. The front office has plenty invested in the position. Bonner, Mason, Jefferson and Bogans could all fit the bill, but for one reason or another, none can get it done. I have watched the big twelve since its inception. James Anderson seems to have a lot to offer offensively, maybe a twenty per scorer, though I don’t see him as a spot up shooter. He was recruited to OSU by Eddie Sutton, but Sutton was gone before Anderson arrived, therefore he needs a lot of defensive schooling. Damion James came to UT the same year as Kevin Durant. He showed a lot of promise his freshman year. Three years late, he still shows a lot of promise. I see him as a little more mobile than Blair. Sooooooooooooo I think this position has to be purchased through free agency or developed within. Temple and Hairston showed real strength this year. Why not use them? I hear Tim, Manu and Tony saying they want to win, but they are taking all the money, so they must know what’s left for the ownership to work with. Go Spurs

by Cardinian on May 14, 2010 10:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I did a little sorting through many of the mocks on the web and posted it up over at my sight if you wanna see a rough sampling of who these other " experts" think the Spurs grab. Robinson , James , and Orton seemed to be the most common guesses I saw

While complacency costs, perseverance pays

by B.diddy on May 14, 2010 10:48 PM CDT reply actions  

This is exactly the kind of post that gets me excited for the Spurs next season. Really great stuff, Tim.

I’m with you about Robinson. In fact the more I think about him and read about him the less I believe he will fall to us. The only reason, in my opinion, that he’s projected to fall so far is because he isn’t in anyones recent memory since UCONN failed to make the NCAA tourny. Once teams start working him out everyone will re-remember how good the dude is so I’m not getting my hopes up.

After Robinson I’d like Damion James and if he’s not available then there’s no one else that I think would make an immediate impact. And at pick 20 you’re looking for a guy to come in and contribute right away. I know Pondexter is a hot name but he has never struck me as a catch and shoot player and he is undersized and another undersized player is the last thing we need.

We don’t have many tradeable assets but if we could some how trade up in the draft to make sure we get Robinson OR go up even higher and get Wesley Johnson I’d be all for it. I have no clue what it would take to move up though.

On freeagency there is no one I’d like other than Childress. Maybe Outlaw but eh…I dunno.

If Tiago comes, like you said, we can completely focus on SF in the draft. So much hinges on what Tiago does.

"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo

by Manuwar on May 15, 2010 12:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Also, this might be a good topic for a completely different thread but, I think going after free agents rather than drafting and using our over seas products is the wrong thing to do at this point. We should have some foresight and start slowly transitioning into a new era. If we sign veteran free agents and ignore youth it leaves us empty handed when Tim and Manu are gone.

"It's Manuway or the Highway" - tlo

by Manuwar on May 15, 2010 1:19 AM CDT reply actions  

The top priority is build to surround Timmy/Manu. Honestly. Spurs might never be a “contender” for another 20 years. Maybe 5 more years. No one knows the future. But you throw what you got into winning now.

Spurs are trending towards younger and the D-League team helps them keep more of the younger bunch around. You can tell with guys they’ve signed to small deals to bring them into the summer that they know they need to utilize this route more, especially with guys who already have some familiarity with the team.

by grego21 on May 15, 2010 4:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I only agree with this if it comes to mediocre veterans. If it comes down to resigning Mason or giving one of the young guards a chance, I’d prefer the latter. But if the team can squeeze in someone of quality at a cheap price, they need to. Although, I’m also not opposed to signing maybe 1 vet minimum player, such as Bogans, to round out the roster so long as they don’t sign 2-3 at the expense of the developmental talent.

by Neuwaldegg on May 15, 2010 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Quick comment regarding Jefferson. For all the disappointment directed toward him (and most of it is certainly justified) he never quit, and even when his shooting was off, he gave the Spurs rebounding and some decent D. Compare this to Antwan Jamison who was a no show on both ends for the Cavs and quit half way through the series. That guy is a waste. So, I think Jeff could come back next year and work for the Spurs.

by ramirezm315 on May 15, 2010 2:45 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah. At this point, we know what we have in RJ. It isn’t what we thought we had last summer, but it’s better than anything we’re likely to get during this offseason. I’d like him to stick around.

Free Tiago Splitter!

by Tim C. on May 15, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

He should stick around and like you said, we know what we can get from him. At least he won’t be a disappointment since we know how high to place our expectations

"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich

by bj1der on May 15, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anything more is a pleasant surprise through hard work this summer. So definitely worth it. Hopefully the luck of the 2nd year Spurs passes through RJ.

If he can work on his corner 3 and mid range jumper, he’ll definitely provide a huge lift.

by grego21 on May 15, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, and at least he didn’t shoot us out of the playoffs like Caron Butler….that probably isn’t fair to Caron but he was pretty inefficient and seemed to force a lot on offense

by BlaseE on May 17, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget that Gee got NBA time with the Wiz and performed. I mean Spurs liked him so much and were afraid they’d lose him that they gave him a contract. That has to definitely say something. Same deal with Temple, but he’s more a 1/2.

I can see Malik/Temple/Gee all on the roster next year. Although Gee wouldn’t see much playing time probably.

by grego21 on May 15, 2010 4:39 AM CDT reply actions  

if Gee and Splitter are on the roster, we’ll have the ACB MVP and D-League Rookie of the Year

by BlaseE on May 17, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

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