Playoff Minutes and Roster Changes 2010 Version
Last year, I wrote a fanpost, my very first, about what we needed to look for in the upcoming offseason by looking at who contributed in the playoffs.
You can read that post here or follow the jump for the 2010 updated version....
Really quickly to recap, a contributor is a player who played at least 10 minutes per game and played at least half of our games.
Last Year's Version Recap:
'09 Roster (First Round) 10 Contributors
-Manu (33), Horry (10), Barry (14), and Oberto (20),
+Bonner (20), Gooden (18), Mason (22), Hill (19)'10 Roster
-Gooden if not resigned (18), Bowen if boughtout or traded (26), Finley if boughtout (29) Bonner if hopefully traded (20), Udoka if not resigned(21)...?
+Manu(30's)...?Being healthy (eyes on you Manu) is obviously the most important thing, but with the amount of minutes we are looking at cutting, we will need whoever we get to be a serious contributor by the playoffs. We won with 8 contributors in '05 but with Duncan and Manu and even Parker to see less minutes, we need a solid 9 or 10 in the playoffs.
'10 Most Likely Contributors
Duncan, Parker, Manu, Hill, MasonThat is only 5 (and personally I hope Bowen doesn't get bought out even though I understand the value to the team it could mean)....Mason (22) and Hill (19) hopefully will be even bigger contributors next year as well as Finley (29) should see his minutes reduced if he is still on the team.
Of my 2010 subtractions, only Bonner stayed which makes sense. I was just at peak anger at him when I wrote that following the Dallas series. I was so wrong on Mason though. It's too late to matter, but his hand injury has to be some sort of factor.
Actual 2010 Contributor Change
'10 Roster (Lost Semis) 7 Contributors
-Finley (29), Bowen (26), Udoka (21), Thomas (16), Gooden (18), and Mason (22)
+Manu (35), Jefferson (33), McDyess (25)
Our 2010 Playoff Lineup with Comparison/Analysis
Our 7-Man Lineup of Contributors
Duncan (37): Same minutes he played in '07 when we won. I think this number should be less.
Manu (35): The most he has ever played in the postseason as a Spur. Should be closer to 32.
Parker (34): Tied with his first two Spurs postseasons. Perfect amount.
Hill (34): Up from 19 last year. He has to keep improving which I know he can, but he has to prove he deserves to start and take 34 playoff minutes. He could play 40 mpg for all I care as long as he is playing well. He hurt us bad against Phoenix but we wouldn't have beaten Dallas without him.
Jefferson (33): When you look at his salary, 33 minutes and his production. Crappy. He is the only SF on this list though, and I think he played good defense and had some very solid games. We're selling him short if we evaluate him on scoring only. I don't think we can get more minutes out of him, but getting him a back-up could make his 25 to 34 mpg more effective.
McDyess (25): He really became a Spur to me in the playoffs. 25 minutes is low but he is old. I don't like how much we paid him, but it's hard to argue with his value as a championship piece.
Bonner (17): Down 3 minutes per game from last year. I'd like to see him a little lower but he is also the lowest contributor which is where I would put him in the rotation. This speaks to the depth below him more than Bonner himself.
Non-Contributors
Mason (10): Down from 22 a game last year. He also only played in 6 of our 10 games. There is no value in attempting to resign him at this point.
Blair (9): One less minute per game than Mason, but he played in all 10 games. Next season, you might be able to get 15-20 in a playoff game out of him.
Bogans (7): Yes, Dallas was a poor matchup for him and he makes veteran minimum, but I'd much rather see Hairston or our next draft pick with any minutes Bogans got this year. We should let him go.
Temple (3): Whatever...it is what it is. I hope we keep him so he can compete for a roster spot next year. He is a good developmental talent, but I'm not sure how much he can even help in the postseason next year.
Moving on to 2011
Prediction
'11 Roster 10 Contributors
- No one.....
+Splitter (25), Blair (15), SF Draft Pick (10-15)
I think we will have some of our D League guys and maybe a new veteran on the roster, but I think we will stay the same.
Let me check my front court math: Duncan (30) + Dice (16) + Splitter (25) + Blair (15) + Bonner (10) = 96 minutes
We should have one more big, veteran, rookie, or Mahinmi just for the regular season haul. Bonner could easily become a regular season player too if Dice, Splitter, or Blair proved they should have his minutes. The playoff minutes could also fluctuate depending on match-ups.
After our 10 contributors and extra big, we are left with 4 open roster spots for Hairston and three others.
My picks would be Gee, Temple, and possibly another rookie or D-Leaguer.
Miscellaneous Aside: In 2001 and 2008, we lost in the conference finals. In 2009 we lost in the first round. Those are the uninteresting parts. The interesting part is that in '02, '04, and '06, we lost in the semis. Remember what we did after each of those seasons the next year? Hopefully '10 (lost in the Semis) and '11 repeat this trend. It will also be an odd year which is good Spurs mojo.
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Your big man math means zero small ball. There are also 70 minutes from low post players (Duncan, Blair, Splitter). Keep working on that jumper, DeJuan! Also looks like som high post minutes for Tim.
My guess is we keep Bogans as insurance in case SF Draft Pick doesn’t develop.
SF Draft Pick, Hairston, and Gee and possibly Marcus Williams could easily make up for Bogans….I’m tired of wasting minutes on veterans that hardly play…..what a waste
I don’t think Splitter and Duncan are that confined to the low post. I think Splitter and Duncan will be our starters. If you start both of them, Dice, Blair, and Bonner are a more flexible substitution.
High post is good for Duncan.
DeJuan has a decent jumper. We just didn’t let him use it much this season as he was basically camped down low or working the pick and roll for Manu. DeJuan’s experience in our pick and roll also lets him play higher on offense to where we could leave Splitter or Duncan on the weak side post.
High post is good for Duncan
Yes but he needs help. Please help him. His production dipped as the year went on because he had to do far too much early on to keep the team competitive. If he can get helped through the regular season and simply ride the other guys through the season (something like 16 and 9) he will be healthy and more importantly fresh for the playoffs. See how tired he looked after game three vs. Dallas.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
I’m no expert or anything. I’m really just venting my frustration or whatever you want to call it about another disappearance from our so-called shooters. I never really had a good feeling about this team until Manu went crazy in March. Then the first round against the Mavs made me think the team finally got it together. I guess that was just the team wanting to do everyone a favor and quiet Cuban up early.
I don’t really know who the team can go after and who they have to get rid of to get them. I don’t know anything about the cap and making salaries work. I’m too lazy to look it up anyway. I just know that I really don’t want to see Mason or Bogans in a Spurs uni next year. Bonner is who he is and he did look a little better in this year’s playoffs compared to last. I don’t even mind his forays into the paint as much. I honestly think Jefferson struggles more handling the ball than Ginger.
Do we want to keep Ian or Hairston? Pop really doesn’t seem too interested in seeing what they can do.
I’m looking forward to DeJuan’s improvement next season. Maybe he gets the benefit of some calls now.
That’s it. That’s all I got. Thanks for all the great posts all season long. I’m looking forward to next year!
by FANobili on May 13, 2010 6:09 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
- I’d say at the #20 spot in the first round we should draft Texas forward Damion James; he hustles, scores, and rebounded 10 boards per game his senior season. In college he played mostly at the 4, so he does have experience playing down low and doing the dirty work, so to speak. We could finally play small ball if we keep him at the 4 and Duncan at the 5. That could have a chance of showing better results than lame experiment with RJ at the 4.
-Other than at #20, what other draft picks do we hold?
-For sure we are grooming Hairston to stick around with the organization. But who else is pegged to be with us for the future? Temple? Gee? Mahinmi? Gist? Sandikidze?
Totally off-topic, but I can’t believe what I just saw. Cleveland flat out gave up. Gave. UP.
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
Yeah. Bye-bye Lebron? Ferry should have demoted Brown before the season began.
In Manu, we trust.
by day_late_friend on May 13, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
If he leaves, there might be a fire sale in Cleveland. Although I’m not sure who we’d want from that team.
Free Tiago Splitter!
verajao
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on May 13, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Leon Powe would’ve been nice, but he has a cheap final year that the Cavs might pick up anyway.
As soon as King Prince John James walks out of Cleveland Town, the Cavs may either going to go into panic-mode or do very little to balloon payroll with the lockout looming overhead like a Sword of Damocles.
So, a 2010-11 starting lineup of Jamison, West, Ilgauskas, Mo Williams and Verajao is a very real possibility now.
...!!
by transgojobot on May 13, 2010 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions
You can hear it from the distance…. the entire city of cleveland is shacking.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
That city is cursed.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on May 14, 2010 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Fuck it. Lets just sign the Harlem Globetrotters.
Is Dallas going after Lebron? Better make that the Super Globetrotters.

Look at Nate Branch, aka “Liquid Man.” He has a fucking life preserver. We could really use that.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on May 14, 2010 7:51 AM CDT reply actions
Why no 3s against Phoenix
This is for Fanobli and all others. The reason the Spurs couldn’t get off many three pointers was because Sun defenders were staying at home because they didn’t have to double up on Duncan. That was always a quandry for teams in San Antonio’s glory years. Only on a few occasions did the Suns double Duncan and they did a good job of disguising it causing Timmy problems. The Suns have the defensive speed the Spurs lack, excluding Nash, and they presented the most matchup problems. Duncan never has been able to guard Stoudamire and neither could McDyess, Bonner or Blair. None of the Spurs can stay with Nash and Phoenix’s three point shooters had wide open attempts because of the Spurs inability to corral Nash or Stoudamire. It won’t be any easier next year.

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