Game 4 Preview: Mavs @ Spurs
Happy Birthday, Timmeh!
For those of you who don't know, today is Timmeh's birthday. I became a Spurs fan solely because of this man. As a fan of the game of basketball, I was drawn to his play at Wake Forest and in the Tourney. Since I didn't have an NBA team, I followed Timmeh to the Spurs, and the rest is history.
While this great event should be duly noted and celebrated, I'm a bit brain damaged and couldn't think of anything good enough to post. So I'm leaving it to you, the PtRockers. Share your favorite memories, videos, etc. of The Big Fundamental in the comments.
Now for the preview:
Dallas Mavericks @ San Antonio Spurs [Game 4] Where: AT&T Center - San Antonio, TX When: April 25, 2010; 6:00 PM Spurs time Watch: TNT
How They Stack Up
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Matchups
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George Hill |
Point Guard Hey, I was right about Cubits. He played a great game on both ends of the court. His ability to slide over to the two while Parker is on the floor is a bigger key to our success than most of us realized. Kidd looked worse in Game 3 than Game 3. The Mavs need him to score to help take some of the pressure off of Dirk. Advantage: Spurs |
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Manu Ginobili |
Shooting Guard Butler barely played. I have no idea what's up with that. Manu is one of the toughest players I've ever seen. I have no words for his 4th quarter. Help me out and put your own superlatives in the comments for the Man with The Mask. Advantage: Spurs |
Caron Butler |
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Richard Jefferson |
Small Forward I was not impressed with Marion's game AT ALL. He did not help the Mavs in any facet of the game. RJ, you're playing good defense and brining the hustle, but you have got to take more shots. Bring back the aggressive RAGE! Advantage: None |
Shawn Marion |
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Tim Duncan |
Power Forward I've got to give Dirk credit - he's an offensive machine. He came up huge when his team needed it. Too bad for the Mavs that the rest of the starters stunk. Nothing new to say about Timmeh. He's been the best player for either team in the series. However, it would be nice if the big guy could make a few more of his free throws. Advantage: Tied |
Dirk Nowitzki |
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Antonio McDyess |
Center Dice really is Horry 2.0. Too bad the boxscore doesn't count tipouts to team members, because SAM has really excelled at that. I guess the FO knew what they were doing after all. Once again, "DampWood" did not play well. This seems to be one of the constants of the series. Advantage: Spurs |
Brendan Haywood |
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Tony Parker |
Bench & Role Players Tony was brillian once again, but he needs some help from the other bench players. Terry got his points, and somehow that little gnat Barea was able to torch our otherwise good defense. I just don't get it. Advantage: Mavs |
Jason Terry |
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Gregg Popovich |
CoachWell, Pop, you coached a heckuva game. And I don't think too many are complaining about your rotations now. Carlisle, why are you giving Damp more minutes than Haywood? Advantage: Spurs |
Rick Carlisle |
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Other Factors
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Intangibles |
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The Mavs are down in the series and this game is on our home court. Advantage: Spurs |
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Mojo |
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Apparently the mojo is only mostly dead, which means it's slightly alive. Advantage: Spurs |
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No reason to think this won't be another close one, but I think the Spurs pull off another win. |
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Keys To The Game
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Strength of ScheduleFourth game of the series after one day of rest. Again, schedule doesn't really matter in the playoffs, as there are no back-to-backs. Last Time They MetHighlights, recap and boxscore from our 94-90 victory can be found here. |
Some Other ReadingMavericksMavs Moneyball - The SBNation home of the Mavericks. They played nice with us last year during the playoffs, so go say hi, but please don't be trollish. Spurs48 Minutes of Hell: The best TrueHoop team blog is still going strong, "pounding" out some of the best analysis there is on our beloved Spurs. |
Where to Tune In
TVThis game will be aired nationwide on TNT. If you have cable or satellite, you'll have to look up your individual channel. And of course, there's always League Pass for the haves. For the have nots, read on. OnlineAs always, NBA League Pass is recommended for those who are willing to pony up the cash. Most Spurs games will be broadcast there, which is especially helpful for those of us who aren't in the San Antonio area. Please don't post links to illegal game feeds in the game thread. Links to illegal feeds are not permitted on SBNation, but you can probably find them out there on the internets if you're resourceful and desperate. In fact, nobody can stop you from googling "atdhe". You can also shoot an email to poundingtherockmail@yahoo.com for more assistance. NBA League Pass audio is still free this year, so check it out. RadioIf you're in the San Antonio area and aren't near a TV, tune in to WOAI (1200 AM). |
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Hey guys. This is my first post and, coincidentally, the first post on this entry. Double-first!
I signed up with PtR minutes before the last game started and it wouldn’t let me comment. I’m pretty confident that if I comment during the next game, it won’t mess with the mojo since I was commenting in spirit during the entire last game.
The comment i wanted to make was that RJ needs to be waaaaay more aggressive. I recall a play last game where someone set a pick for him and he was driving toward the hoop. The only person between him and the basket was Barea. He drove to the edge of the paint before kicking the ball out to someone (I forget who) standing outside the 3-pt line… Really? You can’t just pull up and pop an easy one over Barea? Don’t you have like 8 inches on him?
FRUSTRATING.
Welcome to PtR, merlik. Join us again later in the game thread.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Apr 25, 2010 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Pivotal game 5 of the 2005 NBA finals against the Defending champion Pistons. Timmy had a great overall game, but had missed six straight fouls shots down the stretch in overtime, and Detroit led as a result. Duncan was visibly upset with himself. But Manu would pass the ball to a certain assassin named Robert Horry for a series altering three point shot, and the rest is history.
After the game, Duncan was asked about the nightmare game he had. This was his response… “An absolute nightmare, yes,” Duncan said. “[Horry] pulled me out of an incredible hole that I put myself in.”
The despair apparent in Duncan’s face after missing the foul shots, and his post-game admition of relief left a lasting impression on me. It humanized him in a way I had never seen another athlete humanized let alone one approching his stature. It was just an amazing moment, and from then on I realized just how humble and awe inspiring this individual truly is…
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
Minor discrepancy, the six straight free throws Duncan missed ( and what would have been a game winning lay-up) were in the final minutes of the 4th quarter. Then big shot bob bailed us out in overtime.
http://espn.go.com/nba/recap/_/id/250619008/san-antonio-spurs-vs-detroit-pistons
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
Happy Birthday TD! It wouldn’t be a birthday without a party and there won’t be a party without a win. Guess we really got to win this game for the birthday boy.
An often forgotten clutch playoff memory would be 1999, second round vs Lakers, game 2. If memory serves, LA went up 3 on a made 3 by Kobe. Timmy got a quick hoop, Kobe missed his FTs, and Timmy hit the game winning hook on an inbounds pass from Elie. That was one of those moments when I believed we had turned the corner as a franchise, as these were the types of games we had always lost in the past. And here we were being saved by this second year stud.
As for tonight’s game, just continue to control the pace of the game, execute on offense, rotate and rebound on defense. I’ve said it many times but the Mavs always make one offensive driven run per half. Our job is to not feed that run and make it any bigger than it has to be by committing turnovers, taking quick shots or getting lazy on defense. Just fight through it, hit a few shots and know that that streaky team will miss 8 of 9 only minutes after scoring on seven straight possessions. That’s who they are, a bit of a front running team. We’re the poised team that allows our defense to spring our runs. Just hold the MLP down and punish them after they make a run and they’ll hang their heads, especially after the Marion/Butler frustration from last game.
Go Spurs!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Hey remember in game two when we really need someone down the stretch to make some points because no else was scoring and the team looked kinda lost on offense and then Tim had 8 straight points and then we won?
That was pretty cool.
I did a lot of soul searching. I didn't find anything.
I think (to repeat/paraphrase what Coach Pop has said before), it’s not complicated (in concept, executing the plan may be another matter): The Spurs have to take care of the ball (i.e. limit turnovers) and control the boards (i.e. limit fast breaks and second-chance points).
imho most of the Mavs players have been ineffective in their half-court sets. They live or die each game off of fast-breaks (hard to do off made shots and contested, at-the-rim rebounds) and broken plays (so limiting their offensive rebounds is key). Against the Spurs’ half-court defense, the Mavs don’t seem to be particularly efficient…. iirc, the San Antonio forced Dallas into four 24-sec-clock violations in Game 3; at times, their guys on the floor looked genuinely lost.
The exception is Dirk, of course. But if the Spurs can turn their players into spectators standing around watching their superstar flail away — which they can do by continuing to guard him straight up (mostly) — and Dice can continue to make him work for his shots, I like our chances. I can live with the odds of Dirk having to come up with a super-human performance to beat us vs. getting beat because Terry/Butler/Marion/Barea got going with easy buckets or Kidd dropping in some dagger 3’s.
Barea is a bit of a wild card (in part because he brings a slightly different ‘look’ to their offense), but I think Carlisle playing him all second half in the last game should have given the Spurs ‘brain trust’ enough tape to develop some counter-measures.
The 2-3 zone probably won’t work as well for Dallas as it did in Game 3, but I suspect they’ll try something different on Sunday, maybe more aggressive double-teaming of Duncan to force our outside shooters to prove themselves. Bonner — if he’s on the floor — had better be ready to deliver.
My ideal Game 4 would be for a tight 1st half, but with the Spurs pulling away going into the break, and then opening up the lead with a furious run at the beginning of the 3rd quarter. Dallas would of course make a late run towards the end of the 3rd or start of the 4th quarter, but San Antonio would put them down with their “been there, done that” panache. The Mavs would start panicking (and remembering that their ‘been there, done that’ scenario involves posting a great regular-season resume and looking good on paper only to fall to a lower seed in the playoffs) as the reality of going back to Dallas down 3-1 hits home.
As far as TD memories go, I remember him toting around his video camera during his first Championship year, reveling in the experience.
Happy Birthday, Tim! I know it’s popular for pundits to say that you get taken for granted, heck even Pop said it the other day after Game 2, when you put the team on your back to put Dallas away. But you know better… your opponents — and more importantly the Spurs — NEVER take you for granted. Yeah, the fame and endorsements might have gone to other players who achieved less but in bigger markets, but the RINGS you earned didn’t. And at the end of the day, that’s what’s really important.
p.s. The best birthday gift for TD would be a run to the Finals… but you all know that, right?! :)
My favorite memory of Timmy was 2007 Finals, one of the post game interviews. Tim came in and sat down then his face lit up. He made a face and waved his fingers. His wife and baby girl had slipped in the back of the room, that was his focus.
I know that Robinson set a fine example of how to be a Spur. How lucky are we to have had such upstanding individuals on our team. Talk about the type of player you would love your kids to look up to.
Oh and that three against the Suns is a close second. Happy Birthday Timmy !
Timmy D .... enough said.
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"Ginobili. . .He's weaving, he's throwing up triple axels in sneakers, he's willing the ball into the basket. It's Cirque du Soleil with refs." Dan Oshinsky / KENS 5
OOPS - Let's try again on an image of Timmy as Daddy

"Ginobili. . .He's weaving, he's throwing up triple axels in sneakers, he's willing the ball into the basket. It's Cirque du Soleil with refs." Dan Oshinsky / KENS 5
by janieannie on Apr 25, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
second.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Apr 25, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Hah. Perfect. But the link to the original sized version didn’t make it, jalberto. :)
I smell death... everywhere.
Legendary Spurs supporter Gloria Drash, who frequently sits on the front row near the bench, loves Tim and wears his jersey to every game. But once, last year, she wore Bruce Bowen’s jersey. Tim noticed and walked over to her and asked, “Gloria, what’s wrong?” She had no idea why he was asking, so she replied, “Nothing, Tim, everything’s fine.” He asked again, “No, Gloria, I mean what’s WRONG?” and stood squarely in front of her, staring intently. She remained puzzled for a minute and then figured it out. She had to promise on the spot to always wear his jersey, and she does. Her husband, Will, usually wears Hill’s jersey because the two of them have "adopted " him and he calls them his adopted grandparents.
You can see a photo of Gloria & Will at the last game in my photo post. Today is also Gloria’s birthday, and they will be sitting on the front row, baseline by the Spurs’ bench and she will be the honorary co-captain of the game and get to wish Tim a Happy Birthday. Really!
"Ginobili. . .He's weaving, he's throwing up triple axels in sneakers, he's willing the ball into the basket. It's Cirque du Soleil with refs." Dan Oshinsky / KENS 5

Happy Birthday, Mr. Duncan.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Apr 25, 2010 11:11 AM CDT reply actions

Happy Birthday, Mr. Duncan.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Apr 25, 2010 11:11 AM CDT reply actions
Sorry for the double-post. My internet is really slow right now.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Apr 25, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Barea
JJ Barea is quickly becoming 2nd on my Hatest Maverick® list (2nd to Mark Cuban, and passing Jason Terry).

"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
by spursfan87 on Apr 25, 2010 12:39 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
rec’d, as usual.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Apr 25, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I really feel for Wade right now. Such a gutsy effort. He needs a better team around him next year.
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
No kidding. The guy is amazing. You think he’ll stay in Miami or leave for Chicago?
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
surfergirlsa?
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Apr 25, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Good article and video about Timmeh’s college career. 3-time ACC Defensive Player of the Year – we should have known what was coming. :)
My favorite Tim memory is when he psychoanalyzed himself during the 1999 lockout. One of the most interesting things I’ve read from any NBA player. And one of the main reasons I get so irritated whenever fair-weather NBA fans say Tim is “boring”.
Oooh, great call, Doc. Love that article. I think that one of the reasons I like PtR so much is that so many of the people here sound a little like Timmy D. in self-analysis mode. Tongue-in-cheek and sweetly genuine all at the same time.
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.

"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Apr 25, 2010 4:20 PM CDT reply actions

"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Apr 25, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions

"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Apr 25, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions

"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Apr 25, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions

"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Apr 25, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Well CapHill you already took my awesome Timmeh story about how I’ve followed him since college but one of my favorite things I remember about him was the near QUADRUPLE-double in the finals clincher in 03. Just a phenomenal display by one of the greatest players of all time.
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