50,000 Unstoppable Watts of Clutch
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 23, 2010 11:43 PM CDT
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Tony Parker was CLUTCH!!. Yes. Tony hit the big shots in this one.
Whoa. Wow. Let's hit the highlights here.
- The Spurs won
- The Spurs didn't make a 3-pointer
- Tony Parker hit the big shots down the stretch
- Manu Ginobili broke his most glorious nose
- George Hill was huge
- Tim Duncan is still named Tim
Well, that pretty much tells you everything you need to know. The Spurs old school ground out this victory.
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We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 23, 2010 11:45 PM CDT reply actions
weaksauce.
free malik hairston!
perth wildcats - 2009/2010 nbl champions baby!
by sleep research facility on Apr 23, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
did you just first your own post? very nice. +1.
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Apr 24, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Solid game. Spurs didn’t make a 3 and won. That is awesome! And Manu struggled too. Awesome team defense for the majority of the game.
I’m predicting a break out game for Hill.
Cap called it right in the preview thread.
She’s the man. Even if she can’t figure out the ATS White Box.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 23, 2010 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
just too bad no natter what we do—-putting body on dirk,putting hands in front of his face he just makes it…that’s why i really think why can’t dirk get an 81 point game like kobe….hmmm….
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
Dirk would never take that many shots. Just isn’t his character.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
All of the Big Three showed up, plus Dice, and a dash of George. BUT, wonder of wonders, I don’t think I ever saw Mason in the game!
"What is this new devilry?" -Jeff Van Gundy
by DrumsInTheDeep on Apr 23, 2010 11:50 PM CDT reply actions
Drat. So he’s barely visible even when on the floor, which we already knew. i was just happy to think that Pop may have given up on him this season.
"What is this new devilry?" -Jeff Van Gundy
by DrumsInTheDeep on Apr 23, 2010 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Hell yeah role players stepping up and best of all no Bogans
GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2010 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)
Per NBA TV.
Last time Spurs won a playoff game without a 3. 1993 vs. Phoenix in the playoffs. 1999 vs. Twolves in the regular season.
Yeah, the disappearance of Mason and Bonner has put a real crimp in our three point attack….
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
Bonner only took one shot. However, overall Bonner is playing pretty well. If he’s hitting, he can definitely help destroy the zones.
Dallas is doing a good job of chasing him off his 3 though.
Yea, they did a good job on Bonner..I understand the corner is a low percentage shot for him, but he was wide open. And hes completely helpless against Dirk…
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
He does his best against Dirk. Dirk tends to take tough shots anyway. Nothing you can do about those
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Yea, fortunately though, Dice does an excellent job on Dirk and Manu can also check him….
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
As long as Tim doesn’t play him. EVER. Evrey single time Tim checked him he scored. Check it if I’m wrong. Dirk has always had trouble with smaller players which is why Manu is so effective against him.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Game 2 Timmy checked him and he didn’t score. Dirk was hitting so the majority of plays he got a shot, whether it was Timmy or someone else.
Dirk looked really bothered by Bonner’s D on him. Especially after he got called for an offensive foul (probably the best defensive play 2nite).
I am here to state the obvious.
Only for a couple of plays. He killed Bonner during a stretch on the 3rd.
I smell death... everywhere.
Spurs played like crap overall. Dirk was on though. No one was going to really stop him. But they did put the clamps on the other guys, especially JJ. Props to the guards led by Hill for that.
Actually, Barea gave the Spurs all kinds of hell in the 3rd. It looked like a repeat of last year. Neither Hill nor Parker seemed able to stay in front of him. Kudos to Pop who put Manu on him, who completely shut him down. (I find this amazing since he’s the slowest of the 3 Spurs, but then again he is MANU GINOBILI!).
Hill did guard Terry excellently though, while Parker did well on Kidd. The only players the Spurs don’t really have answers for are Butler and Dirt. Butler though is a streaky shooter who kills the flow on offense, so that we don’t have a match up hardly kills us. Dirt, we just do the best we can, and Dyess is holding his own relatively speaking.
Just throwing this out there: If Dallas resorts to the three-guard lineup, I want to see what a five of Hill, Parker, Ginobili, Jefferson and Duncan can do. Jefferson’s not going to stop Nowitzki but nobody can. What he can do is rebound well for his size and force Nowitzki to play him one-on-one.
Asked before the game how Parker has looked, Popovich said, "He’s still cute. "
but it just means that we can live without the three as long as we play defense and hill dice and rj shows up and a little of other bench players might help.
it just shows that we are better scoring in the paint.and that our only weakness,the major one is free throw shooting—-anyways we’re destined to suck on it
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
You know when was the last time I got this excited for a Spurs win? When Timmeh made The Three.
REVENGE!
I used to believe in the Spurs having an ESPN curse (much like the Suns TNT curse.) It might just be my own superstition but i was roven wrong today. I’ve been trying to catch the game threads but for some reason these games are so good that i stop thinking. I’ll try to make game 4. Good game. We played like we should. I think most would be happy with how we played today.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
If you haven’t been making it to the game threads, now is not the time to start. SiMA will see to it that you don’t.
REVENGE!
It’s okay. They’re just playing.
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
It’s kool. I was thinking of staying away for that reason anyway
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Don’t stay away—that would be a shame.
And I don’t give a tinker’s dam about all this mojo talk. What the Spurs have transcends superstition.
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
Its looking more and more like we will be going to see the Spurs mop america west arena with Nash and company…
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
Thats a good thing though
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Yes of course its a good thing. I live just outside of Phoenix and Tim lives in Phoenix. These are the only chances me and him get to watch the Spurs play…
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
I’m excited by the idea. But, I haven’t had much luck with Spurs away games, so I find myself questioning whether I should go if it happens.
REVENGE!
If I had a hanky, I’d be waving it right now.
"What is this new devilry?" -Jeff Van Gundy
by DrumsInTheDeep on Apr 24, 2010 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions
lets focus on breaking the ponies first.
GTFOML!
by the little o on Apr 24, 2010 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions
its not just you i think of the espn curse and i’m always nervous when we’re aired on ESPN…i think besides this game we also won the rockets game aired on ESPN
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
Some interesting stat stuff I found on Basketball Reference:
Teams that shoot 0% on three pointers are 36-33 since ’91. The Spurs have shot 0% on threes 8 times in the playoffs since ’91 (five in the D-Rob era, three in the Timmy era) and have gone 3-5 in those games. This has become way less of a common thing in recent years — there have only been 13 such games since 2000. The no-three teams have gone 4-9 in those 13 games. The most three point field goal attempts by a winning no-three team was 14, back for the 2008 Jazz.
Really crazy shit. I still can’t believe we won that game without making a three.
If you had said before the game we wouldn’t hit a 3, I’d have expected a 20 point blowout. That really speaks to our defense. And penetration. Always, the penetration. ;-)
"What is this new devilry?" -Jeff Van Gundy
by DrumsInTheDeep on Apr 23, 2010 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
yup espn also showed that fact—-sports center
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
i saw great d since game 2 even in game 1 but we lack something there—-so i guess giving the mavs 4 or 5 to’s as a result of shot clock violation speaks of how we defend them—
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
spurs twitter:
Manu Ginobili suffered a nasal fracture during game 3, he will be reevaluated Saturday and a CT scan will be conducted.
free malik hairston!
perth wildcats - 2009/2010 nbl champions baby!
by sleep research facility on Apr 24, 2010 12:00 AM CDT reply actions
If the Mavs don’t start going for The Nose, you KNOW the Suns will.
"What is this new devilry?" -Jeff Van Gundy
by DrumsInTheDeep on Apr 24, 2010 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions
You know what Manu does when the Suns hit him in the face, right? It’s in their best interest to NOT do that.
REVENGE!
A fracture is different from a big bad cut, so I guess we wouldn’t have a Nash situation on our hands. But they’re not above that, even if they should know better.
"What is this new devilry?" -Jeff Van Gundy
by DrumsInTheDeep on Apr 24, 2010 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually, I think I found the perfect mask.
REVENGE!
by Tim C. on Apr 24, 2010 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions 10 recs
Perfect. Recced all the way to the Batmobile.
by swgeek on Apr 24, 2010 1:57 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lmao, oh man that’s great.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Apr 24, 2010 3:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Depending on how serious it is, it may be up to him. You know he’ll only wear one if the trainers beg him to.
"What is this new devilry?" -Jeff Van Gundy
by DrumsInTheDeep on Apr 24, 2010 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions
his just a warrior he just want to stop the bleeding and didn’t care wha’s up with his nose and ran back and played the game and brought us back.just amazing——just take a look on his nose at the interview espn had with him that was shown in the game—-take a look at the nose before and after he was hit by dirk—-it was——crooked like?can’t describe it—-so i guess its a fractured nose—-hope it won’t be like a fractured hand
and i hope he plays
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
How about Tony Parker? How about Tony Motherf$ckin PARKER ??
The return of Spurs Defense.
The unstoppable drives and needle threads have become commonplace for Ginobili. However, he also possesses the most precise, pilfering hands of anybody I have seen thus far this season. Easily better than Kidd’s hands. Not only is Manu the teams closer, but he’s also been made the designated stopper, crawling into Dirks jersey one moment, and then keeping up with the cockroach Barea the next.
Who knew dropping about 15 pounds would make all the difference in Duncan’s late season performance. The man is back, the man is BACK.
Hill is also back, and the Spurs will easily have the best three guard rotation of the playoffs for its duration…
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
I like how Manu comes in late to strip the ball from different guys. Doing that a few times means he can go long stretches without trying but guys will be uncomfortable thinking he may do it again.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Press conferences are still going: http://www.nba.com/playoffs2010/live1/
Skeletor is up now, but I expect to see some Spurs later.
REVENGE!
Hubie Brown is giving a press conference?
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
“I liked Manu’s agression… and I like the fact that Blair’s a man.”
"What is this new devilry?" -Jeff Van Gundy
by DrumsInTheDeep on Apr 24, 2010 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions
GOL
favorite recent hubie quote
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Apr 24, 2010 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Is it just me, or is this the first game in a hell of a long time that each of the big three dominated at some point in the game? Tim dominated the first half, Manu dominated in the opening of the fourth, and Tony dominated sparingly in the first and majorly in the last half of the fourth. All three had bad stretches, no doubt, but damn if they didn’t all carry us to this win. What a great one. Also, CUBITSSS.
What the hell happened to Caron Butler? If he isn’t hurt then Carlisle pulled a scratcher.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 24, 2010 12:06 AM CDT reply actions
He’s overthinking. In Game 2, when Beaubois would be a great change of pace, he sits. Tonight, is a slow paced game, he plays. Makes no sense.
Beaubois played in the second quarter for a pretty good stretch. I think it was second quarter anyway.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 24, 2010 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Honestly, I’m with Carlise on this one. Beubois can score, that’s for sure, but that’s about it. He’s also a black hole once he touches the ball and doesn’t play much D.
The Spurs killed the Mavs for the short period of time he was in there. I can’t imagine the pace is going to pick up much from here on to make him very productive.
The Nose will keep running?
"What is this new devilry?" -Jeff Van Gundy
by DrumsInTheDeep on Apr 24, 2010 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions
The Nose will keep bleeding?
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 24, 2010 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Has to be some way to slow down J.Terry though
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Maybe I’m just nuts, but I’d rather The Nut Puncher get his points, than Kidd get involved on the offensive end.
Yeah, that too. The last 2 games, Kidd hasn’t really had a chance to run the offense. I’m pretty sure that’s by design.
REVENGE!
And he needed 42 minutes, 23 FGA and picked up 5 fouls along the way. Spurs made him play both ends and for the third straight game made him work for everything.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I was satisfied with our perimeter D tonight. The rotations were the best I’ve seen them this season.
REVENGE!
I don’t want to call this series just yet…but it really looks like San Antonio has figured them out.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
The energy, effort, and execution have all been there which is good.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
At some point, we’re also going to make 3’s. If we can put a beating on them Sunday, it might just leave them Psychologically Devastated™.
REVENGE!
I think the Spurs are just a bit better. Manu, Timmy and Tony are better than Dallas’ best three. Add Hill and our top four are better than their top 4. You can debate who has a deeper team one through 13 but in the playoffs it’s about who has more stars and the best seven or eight man rotation. That’s us. And we got Pop.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Right now we have the best 5 man rotation (including TP). Jefferson is iffy and the rest of the bench are not really showing up.
I’d still give that title to Lakers for now. Hill might be back 100% in physical, but his game is still somewhat rusty at least on the offensive end. It’s getting there, but this was his first game where he showed up (which was helpful when Manu went out and RJ didn’t show). It’s getting there though.
I can’t put too much on the bench because Pop isn’t playing much of it. Not that this is a bad thing though. Bonner so far hasn’t been a negative though.
What use though is their supposed “depth” when it is sitting on the bench the whole 3nd half? I think the only switch they made was to pull a terrible Dampier for a mildly less terrible Haywood at the beginning of the 4th.
The lineup on the bench was losing, at one point by ten I believe. Depth is critical in the regular season. In the playoffs it helps to have an eight & ninth man for match-ups in different series and in case of foul trouble or wanting a change of pace. Ultimately if you have the better 1 through 8 or 1 through 7 and your top two guys are the best in the series you’re all good. Of the four best players in this series, three are Spurs. And Dallas, even with their depth, has no good defensive match-up for those three.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Heh, and all the experts keep on yapping about how to stop Dirk. How about they talk about stopping The Big Three? Last I checked, 3 is still more than 1.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Apr 24, 2010 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Dirk has been the best player in this series. But next three best players are our Big 3.
I am here to state the obvious.
While we are on the subject of the series best player thus far…I agree that Duncan has been the best, but you can also make a case that Ginobili has been second best, with his over-all game equaling Dirks offensive potency…
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
But almost completely contained him in the 4th.
In Manu, we trust.
by day_late_friend on Apr 24, 2010 3:12 AM CDT up reply actions
The box score just reads so oddly. Neither team had a player with double digit rebounds. Same number of FGA for both teams. Same rebounds even though we had more offensive boards (didn’t feel that way); is this were “team rebounds” come into play? Outscored 0-24 at the 3-pt line. Dirk had another great game but had to work even harder than the first game. Terry had a god night. Barea was a pest. 3rd Q was helter skelter. And yet we kept them at 90 points and won.
This has to break the Mavs’ spirits a bit. We win on Sunday and it can break their back.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
tony was just clutch and i didn’t even care if he ball hogged on some possessions at that moment bcuz his hitting it….just crazy…i even thought tony hit that corner 3 but that was awarded as a two—-anyways we made history…
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
Great game. But it’s still the Big three scoring + one player (tonight George)
I found McDyess quite good at the end.
And one can’t do much when Dirk’s shot is falling like during the 3Q mavs run (6-8)
What happened to RJ from the first half of game 2? He hasn’t completely sucked but he could still be more aggressive.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
big three+hill+rj+dice=win win win
if all of them showed up—-a n eight man rotaion is better is please limit to 10 minutes bonner’s time…
Ginobelieve!---That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)---Manu is the god of basketball-write it down in your list of Greek gods.Zeus says its official---his a fan!
Good catch. He played fewer minutes tonight but it’s true his number wasn’t being called like last game. Is it possible that his one good game caused Dallas to focus on him more, thus opening up someone else?
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
When he’s in and Kidd’s defending him, like tonight, I want him posting up Kidd every single time down the floor. The Spurs only went to that play once tonight, and it was successful. But his size and athletic ability just make it such an obvious mismatch.
REVENGE!
Not quite an obvious mismatch because Jason Kidd is a very good and strong defender. I think if RJ was more aggressive in the post they would go to him more. He usually settles for a jumper when he posts up which kinda defeats the purpose. But I would love to be able to milk that
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Kidd is very good at getting the steal so I’d be careful. He’s also a respected defender so the refs will likely give him more leeway with being physical on a bigger player. I wonder if Carlisle is pulling a Pop, trying to draw us into that one match up so that it throws our offense off rhythm and gets everyone else out of synch. That may be why Pop isn’t biting at the opportunity.
But we could do it a couple times per half just to make Kidd work hard. And as you stated, it was successful once tonight.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
The opportunities just didn’t present them-self as often. I think the going small ball screwed things up. Also with the small ball, Dallas went zone a lot so that made it tough for players to drive.
But RJ’s missed opportunity gave Hill more time to step up as his ankle heals. So that’s the good news.
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Apr 24, 2010 12:35 AM CDT reply actions
Is that Wayne’s bald head in the front row?
I'm not saying something is wrong, but something isn't right.
by SinCitySpur on Apr 24, 2010 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, that is Mike Monroe.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 24, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
So what? Who cares what they say?
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
I’m so psyched right now, I’m gonna go on a 3-day bender and night sleep until after Game 3 on Sunday!
I'm not saying something is wrong, but something isn't right.
Are you psyched enough to Experience yourself Off-Fremont? I didn’t think so.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 24, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
It wasn’t consistent, but I gotta say for some stretches of the game we played absolutely beautiful defense. In the 4th when it mattered we were rotating like a really fast rotisserie.
I did a lot of soul searching. I didn't find anything.
Oh one last quirky stat thing. Timmy has scored 25+ in three straight games. Want to know the last time that happened, in the regular season or the playoffs?
2006, vs Dallas. In five straight games. Since then? Never.
Until now, of course. What a creaky old man.
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
That was a nasty injury
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
Kudos for the medical staff for stopping the bleeding
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
Spurs need to get Joe Souza the best cut man in the business and he does his business right here in SA!
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/MYSA053004_1C_Souza_1165db35b_html.html
yikes
"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Apr 24, 2010 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions
give that man another extension, he earn it tonight
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
without his nose, Manu is useless. waive him now, when you have a chance.
I am here to state the obvious.
I was just thinking….which would be a sadder day, when Tim retires or when Manu retires?
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
:——— -——-)
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Apr 24, 2010 2:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, I too missed the thread, but watched the entire game on tv with a friend. He had no knowledge of either team, but was rooting for the Mavs to spite me. And when Tony and Manu were hitting those shots down the stretch, pure fist pumping. I felt like KG! Great, suspenseful playoff game! Great home win in a heated rivalry.
Marion must be thinking: “I saw enough of this when I was in Phoenix.”
by 4Him on Apr 24, 2010 1:07 AM CDT reply actions 7 recs
+1
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Apr 24, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions
A couple of things
Manu, Manu, Manu….what a beast. Tim was Tim and Tony made some HUGE J’s in crunch time. I know Dirk got his points, but he had to work for them and he has another 7-22 night or two in him left. Shawn Marion is still the same mental midget he was in Phoenix. Good win, but to put a stranglehold on this series, the crew has to get Game 4. Sunday cannot get here soon enough!
"There's a thin line between to laugh with and to laugh at." - Richard Pryor
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind was his best movie by far.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Apr 24, 2010 3:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I have to agree with that. Kate Winslet was awesome in that film.
In Manu, we trust.
by day_late_friend on Apr 24, 2010 3:27 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, I really didn’t like that movie. It’s said to be one of the best movies ever, but I just didn’t get it…
"The Most Interesting Man in the World" wishes he were Manu Ginobili. - janieannie
Haha, that movie was DOPE. I loved the unique way they spun the tale (I believe they showed it in reverse, from end to beginning) Carey and Winslett and break up at the conclusion. But then they decide to get back together…even though they know how it will end.
Inspiring, funny and one of the best movies I have ever seen.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
You should watch it again, it certainly was a little confusing.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
I was 14 when watching it, and don’t remember much about it, just that I didn’t like it that much.
Alright, I’ll give it a try :)
"The Most Interesting Man in the World" wishes he were Manu Ginobili. - janieannie
You definitely should give it another shot. :)
In Manu, we trust.
by day_late_friend on Apr 24, 2010 5:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I Love You Philip Morris sucked.
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Apr 24, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Enjoyed reading through all the comments.
What a win.
I know it’s like we’re on top of the world right now after this huge win, but we can’t get too full of ourselves. Sunday is huge. If we drop the ball (ha!) and lose that one the series is tied as we head back to Dallas, who would regain home court advantage in the remaining 3 game series. Not the situation we want to be in.
Dallas doesn’t seem to have an answer to us now. Or rather, we seem to have the right answer to everything they’ve thrown at us. But for Timmy’s Happy Birthday Sunday we’re gonna need to work just as hard as we did tonight.
Let’s all home Manu’s busted nose only further motivates the MF Wizard.
Can’t wait.
“We can’t get to full of ourselves…”
We’re fans that’s what we do. If we’re going to feel like s@#t after we lose then please allow us to feel like we’re on top of the f#$%^&g world when we win and go up on the second seeded Mavs 2-1. I’ve been waiting for this series since that abortion that took place in last years playoffs.
If you’re the Mavs what do you hang your hat on. If you get 35 from Dirk contribution from JJ “the flea” Barea off the bench and the Spurs shoot 0% from the 3 pt line and you still lose.
I think there only hope is the hack-a-Tim. Maybe we should ask Dampier to defend Tim when he’s shooting his free throws it seems like when Damp is trying to body him up Timmy can’t miss.
We’ll see, the Suns are still waiting on Marion to show up in the playoffs against the Spurs. I heard Sean Elliott and Bill Land say that Marion shot something like 16% from the 3 point line this season. If that’s the case the Spurs should all sit down and let Marion shoot every time he gets the ball.
by Este on Apr 24, 2010 2:25 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
A bit late for the Suns to still be waiting on Marion, but I know what you mean. :-)
Here are some very interesting thoughts from Ken Berger re. Cuban/Carlisle and the playing time of the key guys who came over to the Mavs before the trade deadline. (Though he also threw in the “nobody is winning three straight games” line.)
http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/21228580?tag=headlines;other
Integrating new players doesn’t happen over night as we all have learned from watching the Spurs this season. I remember how much Kidd struggled to fit in after Dallas acquired him from the Nets. They spun it as being an Avery Johnson problem but that’s typical of mid-season trades.
I think when Carlisle saw that this game was going to be a dogfight he went back to the guys he has a history and a comfort level with like Terry and Barea. And I’m still puzzled as to why he sticks with Dampier so long when he has Haywood as an option. But, Timmy and I hope he keeps giving Dampier the lion share of the minutes.
Yeah, I definitely think Haywood is better than Damp.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Apr 24, 2010 3:22 AM CDT up reply actions
But Damp is actually more physical with Duncan. Haywood is definitely a lighter matchup for Duncan even though Haywood is longer.
Exactly. Dampier is also good in fronting Duncan and in pushing him farther from the basket. It’s a difficult task for Carlisle since either of his centers can actually contain Duncan.
In Manu, we trust.
by day_late_friend on Apr 24, 2010 3:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I actually thought Marion would be having a good game after seeing him getting aggressive in the 1st quarter. I’m glad he got lost in a matrix.
In Manu, we trust.
by day_late_friend on Apr 24, 2010 3:09 AM CDT up reply actions
he defended well initially. he started the 2nd quarter hot offensively but he eventually get slower on rotations as Manu and George almost regularly blew pass him, setting-up their teammates. That’s why he only played for about 6 minutes in the 2nd half.
In Manu, we trust.
by day_late_friend on Apr 24, 2010 3:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Now, I might be a new bee here or going beyond limits. But still, tell me the point of this recap. What exactly is the point. I think Tim C and few others were willing to write some recap and the only reason they didn’t was because Wayne Vore was going to write one because he watched the game live. And are you telling me this is your glorious recap. Please don’t mistake me, but I’m disappointed. May be because I was expecting lots of insight because Wayne attended the game live. I couldn’t watch the whole game and this recap is worth nothing to me. Sorry if I come across as rude.
Nope. It wasn’t live. I watched it on television. Thus, the glorious recap you have before you.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 24, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought Manuwar was writing one?
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Apr 24, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
The Free Coffee Is Brewing
Thank you Spurs, I’ll take mine black please.
Silver & black?
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Apr 24, 2010 3:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I feel like dancin’!
In Manu, we trust.
by day_late_friend on Apr 24, 2010 3:33 AM CDT reply actions
Nice tidbit: the game 3 winner in the previous four series between these two teams became the series winner. I think the importance of this swing game could be seen on the faces of the coaches and in their rotations: Dirk played 42 minutes, Kidd 45. Timmy played 44 (only one rest) while Hill 45. So very critical that all that expended energy and the physical toll ended in victory for our guys. Now Dallas has to pick themselves up after a loss and not have a home crowd to provide an extra push.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
During the game a reporter said that a marching band began playing just outside of the Mavericks hotel at 930 am! The mavericks were quoted as saying that it sounded as if “the band was playing inside the hotel” HAHA!
And then about 15 minutes after that, the hotels alarm went off! HA HA HA!!
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
by alamobro on Apr 24, 2010 5:39 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
the shots tony hit in the last minutes were unvelieveable. 10-16 for the game and he moved the ball pretty well for the most part, despite what some were saying in the game thread.
geogrie was the big 4th man that we needed. might need to be someone else the next time. he and RJ have taken their turn. how about a blair or bonner sighting in game 3?
we really need manu to be able to play unfettered. his nose looked nasty.
thrilled that carlisle kept butler off the floor. i think hes a pretty good coach, but that was pretty dumb.
spurs also dominated the paint. we were getting ot the hole with regularity. hard to beat us when we get in the lane like that offensively.
by bones on Apr 24, 2010 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Spurs have been in the paint all series while keeping Dallas what they are: a jump shooting team. So long as we’re contesting those jumpers they’re not the highest percentage shot for an entire game.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Apr 24, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
At least he’ll be well-rested for game 4… maybe Carlisle is tricking all of us and will unleash some fresh Butler on the unsuspecting Spurs. Or maybe he thought it would be a good idea to play the entire second half with a 5’10" guy with T-Rex arms at shooting guard. Honestly, Manu went by Barea about 5 consecutive times like he wasn’t even there.
by tomasito on Apr 24, 2010 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey look. The first comment in this entire thread to really praise Tony! The guy who probably played the best for the Spurs.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 24, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
in fairmess, he was one of the only spurs with a negative +/- and it was a double digit minus i think. he was on the floor when dallas made their run.
there was a lot of the “pass the ball to manu” stuff when it looked like pop was trying to run iso for tony against berea in the second quarter (and again for a stretch in the second half).
in the end, he played a superb game both shooting and passing.
I defended and showed some love for Tony in there, too…
Just cause we're crippled, don't mean we gotta take the crumbs.
by silverandblack_davis on Apr 24, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Why would somebody have to defend Tony during THAT game?
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 25, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
This is non-sense. Did Parker play well? Yes. Did he come through in the clutch. Most Definitely. Was he also a key component of the Mavs comeback in the 3rd? Unfortunately, yes. He couldn’t guard Barea (who did nothing once Manu guarded him) and (as Tony himself admitted after the game) he responded fairly poorly to the zone.
Really, this game was all about the big 3 collectively. All had their ups and downs at some point during the game, but one of the 3 always came through. Parker played his role and we wouldn’t have won the game without him. Ditto for Tim and Manu though. I don’t think you can say any one did better than the other.
If we want to give credit for the most consistent player tonight for the Spurs, that would be Hill.
What is non-sense about it? I said, “probably the best player” which you then support and THE POINT of the comment was that nobody had commented on Tony’s performance. Do I put down any other player? Do I diss on any of the Big 3? No and no.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 24, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point. You can tell his legs are good again as his speed to the rim has returned. His crossover and quickness made Terry look foolish on a few occasions. I think he also would’ve had a few more assists if Bonner or HIll had made their corner 3. But as has happened more than is recognized, he has been a clutch 4th Q jump shooter in the playoffs. And the three ones he made last night were as clutch as can be.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
The Spurs did the one thing that they had to do to win...
they stayed ALL OVER Dirk….and he still got almost 40 pts……that’s how good this dude really is!! If you can limit Dirk (double…triple….quadrouple……whatever it takes) then you can beat the Mavs….and that’s the ONLY way you’re gonna beat them!!
um I gotta completely disagree… clearly dirk will get his points when he’s not just very unlucky… what the spurs have to do is limit mistakes and limit other players. Which they did and they won… clearly we can win games when dirk scores 35…
by NU Texas Fan on Apr 24, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone else notice that on FSNSW shots from the fan zone during a break, a fan was wearing a Findog jersey. Ha. Gone but not forgotten.
by agutierrez on Apr 24, 2010 11:06 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
credit where its due
i forgot to dole out some credit earlier. a few weeks ago, i had the pleasure of going to a game with bellasa. it was right before tony came back. georgie was hot (it was his career high 30something against the rockets). her and i had a modest disagreement about what would happen when tony came back.
she said that it would be so much better for the team if he came off the bench. my reply was a flip “maybe, but you know that aint gonna happen.” first off, i did not necessarily agree with her. second, i really thought pop would install him right back into the starting line-up.
let me say this: she was exactly right. last night it showed.
by bones on Apr 24, 2010 11:47 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
And the fact that Tony has responded to the change with a Manu-like attitude has been fantastic for the team.
by 4Him on Apr 24, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Awww thanks, Bones. You’re a sweetheart. I was just worried that the rhythm of the final 6 weeks of the season would have been disrupted if Parker was reinstated into the the starting line up.
Having said that, this is TP’s time to shine as much as anyone else. Coming off the bench as our scoring firecracker would make us an incredibly lethal b-ball team. Let’s hope he keeps up the great work!
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. ~ CMoney
I am happy. I am proud. ~ Manu Ginobili
BTW, just in case we needed any reason to dislike Mavs Fans, this is from their gamethread:
After Norsktroll(who isn’t even a Mavs fan) leaves a comment sayign that Dirk broke Manu’s nose, Mav fans had this to say:
Judging
by how often he flops, I’m not surprised
can someone break Duncan’s next?
parkers legs are next!!!
Not even one Mavs fan on that thread showed the least bit of sympathy.
REVENGE!
They’ll feel sympathy when the Spurs break the Mavs collective will in Game 4.
Asked before the game how Parker has looked, Popovich said, "He’s still cute. "
by 0signal on Apr 24, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
And then violently bursting the bubble of the Lakers, and the rest of the league?
Good plan.
"What is this new devilry?" -Jeff Van Gundy
by DrumsInTheDeep on Apr 24, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I think that is a non-issue. In the heat of a close game in a drunken(for a few ppl anyways) game thread we all say a lot of things which are absolutely meaningless in the bigger context but at the moment all you wanna see is that cockroach crushed. I really don’t see why the mavs fans have to show any bit of sympathy.
As long as they can appreciate a good basketball play by either team, everything else is fair game. Oherwise we all gotta look inside first before we go after their game threads. In case ppl haven’t noticed ours have become a lot more “graphic and violent” this season. It’s a lot of new ppl. Some of the old flavor is gone. But a new one is accepted and cultivated. I think it’s all good as long as after the game we can all shed basketball tears if any significant piece of any team is disabled. It just lessens the game. It’s a loss all around.
by LionZion on Apr 24, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed. We all type things in the game thread that we wouldn’t type in any other thread. I don’t hold game time comments against anyone, unless they’re against the Rules.
by CapHill on Apr 24, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
54 points in the paint
20 points from the line
18 points outside the paint
It’s impressive to win with such awful jump-shooting. Hope we don’t have to do it again. Until Tony lined up the first of his three clutch jumpers with 2:35 left in the game the Spurs’ jump shooters were 6-29 (21%) outside the paint:
Hill 1-8
Ginobili 1-6
Duncan 2-5
Parker 0-4
McDyess 1-3
Jefferson 1-2
Bonner 0-1
It ain't over yet, not by a long shot....
Not saying anything anyone doesn’t know, but Game 4 is KEY… all the hard work the Spurs have done in the series thus far goes to waste if the Mavs can steal back a game on Sunday.
Things about Game 3 that could give Dallas hope:
- They only lost by a whisker in a low-scoring, Spurs-style game.
- The Spurs had a hard time matching up against The Gnat, JJ Barea. Carlisle will use him for spark off the bench, or could even start him (though that would do interesting things to Butler’s psyche).
- Dirk’s ‘touch’ came back after his awful performance in Game 2.
- Manu’s broken nose. :-(
- RJ was largely a non-factor again.
Things about Game 4 that should give Spurs confidence, and make Dallas despair:
- Each of The Big Three, including Manu after his nose got broken, made an impact on the game. Stats-wise, Manu had a better game after his nose got called for fouling Dirk.
- Hello, George Hill! I kinda like it when Dallas plays a three-guard lineup, because I’d take Hill-Ginobili-Parker over any three guards the Mavs can field.
- Welcome back, Spurs D-fense! Not only was the game at a pace that favors the Spurs, there were some impressive defensive stands. Didn’t Dallas have something like 3 or 4 twenty-four-second-clock violations? On some half-court sets, more than one Mav looked completely lost.
- The Spurs owned the paint, especially on the offensive end. Their aggressiveness paid dividends — they only shot 76.9% from the line (vs. 93.3% for Dallas), but were +6 in FT points because they shot 26 FTs vs. 14 for the Mavs.
- They overcame a -24 deficit in points from downtown and the Mavs’ furious 17-2 run to pull off the win. I was panicking, but it didn’t look like the Spurs were…. the go-ahead basket, Manu to Timmy to Tony was classic.
As others have pointed out, including the good folks at Ball Don’t Lie, Dallas’ roster seems deeper than San Antonio’s on paper, but it’s not playing out that way.
Butler has all but disappeared since Game 1, Kidd is once again showing that we’re fortunate to have retained Parker instead of getting Kidd thru free-agency, and Dampier/Haywood are being taken to school by the Big Fundamental (when not being challenged by Parker/Ginobili/Hill/RJ).
By comparison, The Big Three are pretty much playing as the Spurs need them to do to win the series. When they get help from a role-player, be it RJ, Hill, Dice, Bonner, or Blair on any given night, the Spurs generally grind out a win. It reminds me of the way they won in previous years.
One caveat...
The effect of Manu’s broken nose going forward.
After Game 2, Dallas Morning News columnist Tim Cowlishaw wrote that The “Big Three poses big trouble for Mavs in Game 2 and beyond,” but “If you had to pick a Spur to worry about the rest of the way, it’s probably Ginobili.”
That was before Manu’s nose got called for fouling Dirk.
Now, I gotta believe that Manu, being Manu, will play thru the pain and discomfort and oxygen deprivation, and try to play at an even higher level. Considering that his stats were better after he came back from the emergency locker-room trip, I should have no doubt that El Brillante can do this… and that his teammates will respond to this display of his courage and heart.
But a broken nose is no joke, even for the guy who should be the Dos Equis spokesman, so I am concerned….
I dunno if I’m in denial, but I’m so not worried about Manus broken nose. Probably because the guy is a warrior. We sometimes use hyperbole in describing him, words that would be used to characterize a fighter or a soldier. But as time goes on he begins to honestly personify these superfluous adjectives.
The Spurs = Not your granddaddies 7th seed !
The way I’d describe him is winner — Manu’s will to win is Jordan-esque imho. El Brillante isn’t the most physically gifted athlete in the NBA, but there are few who match his focus in doing everything and anything he is physically capable of in order to secure the win. He gives us everything he’s got, every night; even when his shots aren’t falling, he’s looking for ways to help his team. That’s what a winner does, and why you’re probably right not to be over-worried about his injury.
My fear is that it’s worse than Manu’s willing to admit, and will affect what he’s able to do. But I don’t question his heart….
by TeamDefense on Apr 24, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I also forgot to mention...
The Spurs have to be ready for the 2-3 zone again, and attack it mercilessly. I’m not too worried about this, as Pop is sure to make a point of this before Sunday’s game, again and again, until the sight of a zone elicits a Pavlovian attack response from TP, George, Manu, etc. :P
I thought Charley Rosen’s points here were interesting:
Here’s what Dallas needs to do to even the series:
* Permanently bench Marion.
* Run several plays for Butler and hope that his psyche isn’t irrevocably bruised by his DNP in the second half.
* Instead of playing the posted Duncan behind or three-quartering him from the top (thereby forcing him baseline), the Mavs must quickly double him on his first dribble. Make TD pick the ball up and then see if he can execute the right passes.
* Play Duncan loosely when he turns-and-faces on the wing and let him unload his highly overrated bank-shots.
* Have Barea try to force whomever he’s guarding into help areas.
* Since the Spurs were doubling Nowitzki from the top, rotating the weak-side wing-defender to the passer, and then moving the weak-side big out to cover the shooter on the weak-side wing, the Mavs have to change up their strategy by occasionally sending the guy who passed the ball to Nowitzki on a forceful dive cut into the paint.
* Get Nowitzki the ball when he’s on the move to make two-timing him more difficult.
* Make shots in the clutch. Discounting a couple of meaningless buckets scored as the clock was running out and the game was out of reach, the Mavs shot 3-for-15 in the fourth quarter.
* Figure out how to properly defend the Spurs’ screen-and-roll.
* Try fronting Duncan in the low-post, making sure to have a weak-side helper at the ready.
* Initiate more body contact.
Here’s what the Spurs need to do in order to take complete control of the series:
* Figure out how to combat the Mavs 2-3 zone.
* Try zoning the zoners.
* Stay down on Nowitzki’s perpetual head- and ball-fakes.
* Overplay Nowitzki so that he can’t easily take his left hand to the basket.
* Have coach Gregg Popovich insult Jefferson again.
I like that his list for the Spurs is shorter than his one for the Mavs. :)
by TeamDefense on Apr 24, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
He’s got a grocery list for the Mavs.
Figure out how to properly defend the Spurs’ screen-and-roll.
As though that just happens in the middle of a playoff series.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
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