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Spurs vs Mavericks: Who knows?

I started this season with the highest of high hopes. Slowly, over the course of the first 61 games, those hopes were ground down into dried bits of poo. Fragments of compost ready to be spread across my lawn. Mediocrity and inconsistency abounded. Over the last 21 games, hope sprang out of the poo like a field of poppies. We went from looking uninspired and discombobulated to looking like the class of the league.

Now, after 82 games, we enter the playoffs and I have no idea at all what to expect. We enter as a ridiculously low seven seed. But, we finished the year only 5 games behind the two seed. Only 3 games back if we didn't tank the last one. Really, I just have no clue at this point. No result would surprise me. Lose in 5 games to the Mavs. Ok. Push the Lakers to 7 in the conference finals. Fine. Absolutely blow up and make a run to the championship. Awesome. Surprised? No.

I'm doing two series previews in one post. One is a glass half empty.  The other is a glass half full.

Star-divide

Glass Half Empty

Injuries
Tony is still rusty and suffering from plantar fascitis. George is on a bad wheel and will be slowed on the defensive end where his defense on Terry will be critical. Tim's knee has slowed him to a crawl and he will get pushed around by Haywood and Dampier.

Dirk and Matchups
We still don't have anybody who can make Dirk work for a shot. When it comes to money time, he will continue to eat our lunch with his mid-range game. We have a matchup problem when they play Dirk at the 4. It gets worse when they play him at the 5. When the Mavs go small, who will Tim cover? A lineup of Dirk, Butler, Marion, Terry, and Kidd will create a LOT of problems for the Spurs.

Lack of Role Player Production
Manu's brilliance won't be able to carry us through a tough playoff series where we will rely heavily on our 3-point shooting which wasn't all that good in the first place. Who, from the role players, is going to step up and make the big shots? We have no proven clutch performers on our bench. Nobody who can play the big fourth quarter that you need from a random non-superstar in the playoffs. Call it the Horry role. Who's going to be the random player that drains two 3's and hits a couple free throws in a big fourth quarter run? It's not going to be one of the young guys. Temple, Blair, and Hairston? I don't think so. Bonner and Mason? Not if last year's playoffs are an indicator. McDyess and Bogans. Um, a possibility I guess. Rage? I don't think he has taken over a regular season fourth quarter yet. Much less a playoff game fourth quarter.

Physical Playoff Basketball
The Mavericks really pushed us around in the paint and on the glass last year. This year, they are bigger and stronger and longer. They are an older, more physical, more veteran team that also has a lot of athleticism. I don't think we will be able to match them physically when the games get rougher and fouls are harder to come by.

Prediction: Mavs in 5

Glass Half Full

Health
Tony is back. He looked full speed and healthy against the T'Wolves. He's getting his rhythm and he proved last year that he can score at will against the Mavs. George is fine. A little set back. And with the game one on Sunday, and game two on Wednesday, he will have plenty of time to get healthy. Same for Tim. He didn't play against the Mavs Wednesday and will be spry on Sunday. This team is in great shape health-wise.

Manu and Matchups
They don't have anybody capable of shutting down Manu. I don't even think they have somebody that can slow him down. His brilliance in the pick-and-roll will draw the Mavs bigs away from the basket and leave Dirk as the free safety. Good luck with that Dirk. Dampier will have limited success guarding Tim, as has always been the case, but Tim almost always dominates him and gets him into foul trouble. Haywood? I don't think so. He's never been good and he's not going to be good against playoff Timmy. AND, the Mavs still don't have anybody to guard Tony.

Tony IS the Role Player Tony will be the anchor of the second unit coming off the bench. He will provide the scoring punch when Manu is resting and never give the Mavs any chance to relax or put us in a long scoring drought. With Tony penetrating, our role players will only have to make their open shots. Additionally, I think Rage will actually step his game up for the playoffs from his regular season performance. I think he and Bogans will actually have a really good series. They are both rough veterans who will perform better in the more physical playoffs.

Head Case Playoff Basketball The Mavs have head cases. Haywood and Terry, in particular, have proven to have issues. Marion has never been a playoff performer. I'm not sure Butler has ever been in a tight series. Stevenson? Hahahahaha!!!

Prediction: Spurs in 4

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Depends on those role players – Spurs in 6

"Ginobili. . .He's weaving, he's throwing up triple axels in sneakers, he's willing the ball into the basket. It's Cirque du Soleil with refs." Dan Oshinsky / KENS 5

by janieannie on Apr 16, 2010 9:12 AM CDT reply actions  

yes, somewhere in between

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Apr 16, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

CMoney has convinced me the glass is full….no halves involved.

by BlaseE on Apr 16, 2010 9:23 AM CDT reply actions  

I’m a C$ convert too.

5 in 10
o;—-)

by J.R. Wilco on Apr 16, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Spurs in 6.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on Apr 16, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I gotta agree …Spurs in 6.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney

by bellasa on Apr 16, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your first paragraph is good stuff. I like the two sided view you provided here. I agree with you that losing to the Mavs in 5 or winning it all nothing would be overly surprising. I want to say that your glass half full is more right than your glass half empty, but I know that’s just the fan in me. It’ll be interesting to see which of your scenarios play out more.

The one thing the Spurs have going in their favor, that you didn’t mention, is motivation. I’m sure the Mavs have it too, it’s the playoffs after all, but I’m talking about the Spurs motivation. I’ve seen several interviews of Spurs lately talking about how everyone had written them off mid-season. They want to prove to the pundits and themselves that they are that good of a team. Also, they owe the Mavs for last year and that’s gotta be worth something.

by Big50 on Apr 16, 2010 9:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Gotta disagree with you there. There is no way that if the Spurs lose the series, they lose it in 5. These guys are too good and too rested.

Crappy teams fear us !

by alamobro on Apr 16, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

You’re right, my point was that nothing will really be shocking.

by Big50 on Apr 16, 2010 6:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I’m looking for Spurs defense and Manu inspiring guys with his plays making them believe the same way I believe. If Spurs bring the defensive intensity early on, like the way they did when they first beat the nuggets (early contest,physical) anything is possible.

by 21td on Apr 16, 2010 9:28 AM CDT reply actions  

Did you see the look on Manu's face....

when he was told that he wouldn’t be playing in the last game. That’s the kind of competetor he is. If he & Tony stay healthy…..Spurs beat Mavs in 6.

by titansfan4ever on Apr 16, 2010 9:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Oh yeah, Manu’s chomping at the bit to go nuts on the mavs.

"You may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas." -Davy Crockett
"Give me an army of West Point graduates, and I'll win a battle. Give me a handful of Texas Aggies, and I'll win a war." -Gen. George S. Patton

by Trey Felder on Apr 16, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Too many memories of being on the sidelines against Mavs

"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on Blair

by Manu ex Machina on Apr 16, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Recc’ed by the way, and I’d love to argue your 3 point statement that we aren’t as good as we think:

1. Cedric Jackson, Duncan, Dice, Blair, and Hairston are a combined 4 of 28 (14%). Tony is 10 of 34 (29.4%). Ratliff and Ian are the only Spurs not to attempt one.

2. Finley and Haislip were 16 of 46 (34.8%), but are gone.

3. Manu, Hill, Bonner, Bogans and Temple take 2/3rds of our 3 point attempts and shoot a combined 38.2% (377 of 988). Without looking it up, I would say Manu, Hill, and Bonner all went through or started in slumps to even hurt that number and are all shooting better now.

4. Mason and RJ kill us on 3 point shooting. They are the other third of attempts. They are combined 147 of 451 for 32.6%. RJ has been shooting about 22% from 3 over the last month and a half but finally has his attempts under 2 a game. This is probably preferred to him jacking up shots at around 32% at 2.5-2.8 shots per game. RJ has one less attempt than Hill and shoots over 8% worse.

Mason is second on the team behind Manu in 3 point attempts. He has 30 more than Bonner and 76 more than Hill. I don’t know what is going on with him. He was 60 of 148 (40.5%) to start the season (up to the January 29th Memphis home game where he shot 4-5). Since the Denver game where he went 0-5, he has gone 28 of 116 (24.1 %). Mason’s 3 point shot is a serious issue if he is on the court.

by BlaseE on Apr 16, 2010 9:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Matt Bonner shot 52% in November. He hasn’t shot over 38.6% in any month since.

George shot 48.9% in March and didn’t shoot over 38.1% in any other month.

Manu is very interesting. Very streaky. He definitely didn’t start in a slump.

Nov: 40.6
Dec: 43.3
Jan: 29.9
Feb: 35.8
Mar: 44.9
Apr: 30.6

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 16, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

To…many…stats

by Big50 on Apr 16, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

April is a little unfair because of the number of games. It could mean he is due to get that percentage up.

I still think we need to trust in Manu, Bonner, Hill, and Bogans more so than RJ and Mason.

by BlaseE on Apr 16, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Uh-huh. That’s what low numbers always mean. There’s nothing like “due theory”. I just got back from Vegas. The Due Theory doesn’t hold. :)

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 16, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

no due theory in gambling – though if you wait around long enough……….

MLPs shooting a nice 37.2% behind the arc and guarding at 34.7%

Good guys at 35.8% and guarding at 34.3%

They seem to have the adv. at the 3 ball – but they don’t have MANU

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Apr 16, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, Artis. I’m gonna bite here.

Please explain MLPs. I’m interested.

5 in 10
o;—-)

by J.R. Wilco on Apr 16, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

My Little Ponies.

Spurs Basketball. Improving [other] NBA teams since 2010! - swgeek

by Tim C. on Apr 16, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I did a search, and didn’t see it even though it was right in front of my face.

Artis, I like it.

Cap, I’ve added MLPs to the nickname site.

5 in 10
o;—-)

by J.R. Wilco on Apr 16, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont like the f****** mavs called MY little ponies.they should be called ALP

by Heman on Apr 16, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eyeball test tells me that MLPs (love that btw) hit many of their 3s in transition. One problem the Spurs had with the Mavs (and everyone else) earlier this season was turnovers. Dirk on the delay-fastbreak. Terry in the corner. Kidd on the wing. Limit self-inflicted mistakes and keeping it more half court should mean fewer 3pt attempts & makes for the Mavs, certainly the wide-open variety.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Apr 16, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

right on. i would agree that we are clicking better than we were in the beginning of the season. Slowing down the Mavs in the 4th , i know duh, is our big weakness. They seem to kick into the next gear come 4th and we have to be prepared for that. the Fakers love to do the same thing to us – keep it close, then the 4th open it up. I think with our current team we can weather that storm and create a counter-attack that will allow us to pull it out but it all starts with rebounding.

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Apr 16, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think part of the problem in the 4th has been Timmy and either Manu or Tony resting. We start a scoring drought, throw in a couple turnovers and we feed a team (Mavs) that is all front runner and receives their energy from their offense. The Lakers only did that once and it was our third game in four nights, so I’ll chalk that up to exhaustion and not having Tony.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Apr 16, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

good points. that scoring drought early in the 4th is easy pickens for the MLPs – I hope Pop has an answer for that

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Apr 16, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Apr 16, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

if pop would rest them 2 0r 3 mins in the third(before it ends) and let them play 10 mins in the 4th or let tim manu or tony play 4-6 mins in the third and play them all 12 mins in the 4th.
but then some sites are saying that Duncan, Manu, Bonner, Jefferson, and Blair—-are solid in the 4th and hill performed poor—-but i guess we can change blair to tony—-but this line up is good though we have 3 big guys and 2 reliable rebounders and one big that can hit those threes and a play maker, this might work then.(maybe it shuld be placed around 8mins in the 4th.tony should start the 4th until the 8 minute or 7 mark so that we can have offense and no drought)
another line up that might work based on basketballvalue.com
is that our best lineup is with hill-rj-manu-td-dice(i think even if hill plays poor in the fourth,the reality is that he can play defense—-and we need stops in the 4th—-the most important quarter)
just too bad though cuz based on statistics the mavs have a better rating in their best unit than our best unit
with Kidd, Jason – Terry, Jason – Marion, Shawn – Nowitzki, Dirk – Dampier, Erick.but if i will base it on players ability and not stats—-our best unit can contend with this unit

dice-erika
td-dirk hill-kidd manu-terry marion-blair
with a dose of defense we might win this match ups.

Ginobelieve!!!!!!!!
----That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)

by tp_09 on Apr 17, 2010 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

are you doubting Manu? Manu is always due.

by BlaseE on Apr 16, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

DFWTM

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Apr 16, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

don’t fuck with the manu?

by BlaseE on Apr 16, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

+ 10

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Apr 16, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

With Hottub Time Machine out in theaters, and the Spurs in a series with the Mavs, it almost looked like:

Dallas-Ft.WorthTimeMachine

5 in 10
o;—-)

by J.R. Wilco on Apr 16, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I washed dishes for the Magic Time Machine before….trippy place

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Apr 16, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe cuban if they lose to us will buy his own hottub time machine

Ginobelieve!!!!!!!!
----That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)

by tp_09 on Apr 17, 2010 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just wanted to say that I’ve not enjoyed hearing so much about poo since South Park.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Apr 16, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow! i hadn’t realized that we slipped so low……..so not only do we guard against the 3 well (except for Kidd) but we also shoot really crappy too!

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Apr 16, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

How much of that is shooting too many?

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Apr 16, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Paging Debbie… Paging Debbie.

We’re still holding your seat on the bus, be sure to jump on before it’s too late.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney

by bellasa on Apr 16, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ms. Downer … Please pick up the white courtesy phone. Your optimism has been located.

5 in 10
o;—-)

by J.R. Wilco on Apr 16, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

+ 1

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Apr 16, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

RMJ has been a dissapointment and his injury is likely part of it but I wonder if he may be a key to playoff success (meaning beyond Dallas). 3pt shooting is such a difference maker. It can make up for poor play or mismatches elswhere. I think that differential will ultimatley be how a team takes down the Lakers. Now that we no longer have Bowen and Finley of yesteryear, who will take up that scoring slack?

If RMJ where to shoot more often as a spot up shooter (instead of creating his own) and more from the corner than always up top, might he develop a rhythm in his shot? Do it like Bonner; find a couple spot on the floor, spot up and shoot without thought or delay. If he’s off he sits. But if he finds his stroke, in limited minutes he could go 1/2 or 2/5. Those extra points and floor spacing will make a difference.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Apr 16, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes, i cringe everytime i see RMJ trying to create his own shot. And what’s up with the mummy wraps?

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Apr 16, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love you, you crazy numbers man.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney

by bellasa on Apr 16, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hi guys, Allas Mavericks fan here. I would like to say that I really enjoy reading your posts here. I believe Allas will beat San Antonio in the first round. There is also a possibility of a sweep. Irk Nowitzki is gonna kill SA. I believe Allas will be able to contain Manu. He is among the easiest players to guard in the league anyway. I don’t think Tim Duncan and Antonio McDyess are capable of leaping and banging inside. Erick Ampier and Brenan Haywoo are going to own them big time. Even DeJuan Blair won’t be able to keep up with our elite centers. We’re going to fly high with Jason Tewwy. Sorry, I don’t want you guys to be stopped from writing those great posts and comments, but this is going to be our time and you’ll be off to an early vacation. Peace out.

You shall have no other Manu before me.

by day_late_friend on Apr 16, 2010 10:42 AM CDT reply actions  

typical Allas fan – fulll of hote air and luv thei team until the whels fall off – and than they hate the MLPs ha ha

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Apr 16, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

so sorry! you're right, have a Nice Day in a George Carlin type of way

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Apr 16, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, AllAss fan, stick around for my post later today. Would love to hear your thoughts….

"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles

"I mean, Dartmouth really sucks and Cornell only beat us by 18. Temple will beat the hell out of Cornell. Promise." -- Me

by Fred Silva on Apr 16, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

"We'll see how our character is," guard Tony Parker said. "We don't have time to be sad. Nobody cares. It's just us. We're the only ones who can help each other."

by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Apr 16, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

let him talk write these messages and besides san antonio don’t talk trash
we love s.a. because they got character and they shut up—-let’s just see if you can still write something up after 6 games about “ALLAS”
peace out too

Ginobelieve!!!!!!!!
----That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)

by tp_09 on Apr 17, 2010 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was pretty sure this post was a joke while reading it..

Fitting for the Mavs I guess.

by M3D1T8R on Apr 18, 2010 2:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good one. Okay it’s late..

by M3D1T8R on Apr 18, 2010 2:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

might want to change your avatar and sig next time.

by BlaseE on Apr 18, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, i just got lazy. :)

In Manu, we trust.

by day_late_friend on Apr 19, 2010 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the spurs take this series.

There is a MASSIVE coaching mismatch going on in this series. I’m willing to bet that Pop knows what Dallas is going to do at this point even if Rick Carlisle doesn’t know yet. Part of Pop’s coaching mastery is his mid-series adjustments, but last year there were no adjustments to be made. Pop has a much healthier and more versatile team this year and can actually make changes – which will be necessary, remember that Sunday will be the first time this year these two teams as they’re currently composed play against each other, so adjustments will be made from game to game as the coaches fine tune their strategies. Pop got a look at full-strength wednesday, Carlisle has no idea what Spurs team he’s gonna see, and to be honest I don’t even really know what lineups we’ll see. Advantage: Spurs

Not having home court almost feels like an advantage now, could you imagine the Spurs not winning one of these first two in Dallas? I couldn’t.

by RamblingSpur on Apr 16, 2010 10:52 AM CDT reply actions  

I think you underestimate Carlisle. Pop won’t be outcoached in any series but Jim Carrey is solid and one of the top five in play calls after a timeout (Pop, Sloan, Gentry and Adelman stand out as the others).

I do agree that Wednesday’s game was useful, which was shown in the irritation that Carlisle had. He had to play his guys to win the #2 seed (which became moot when PHX won but he couldn’t have known). Pop has now seen their new pieces whereas they’ve only seen our big-3 together once all season. Bench players got some real game experience guarding and being guarded by them. Certainly each coach will make adjustments but having to put Dirk back into the game was bad for them. Having a clear reminder in the first quarter of what happens when you get sloppy on defense and allow Kidd and Terry to shoot open 3s is better than reading it in a gameplan.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Apr 16, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree. Jim Carry (very funny) is no push over as a coach. He’s good at making in game adjustments and is not to stubborn to let guys who are being effective play. Pop is a better coach, to be sure, but the funny man can get it done.

by Big50 on Apr 16, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

where do you put phil?

Ginobelieve!!!!!!!!
----That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)

by tp_09 on Apr 17, 2010 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

and it wasn’t the march spurs that they’ve played
and last game before the finale was january

Ginobelieve!!!!!!!!
----That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)

by tp_09 on Apr 17, 2010 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

i wish that what my 2k10 simulation in the playoffs—-but it was last yr’s seed—-i just put the players on correctly(except no roddy beaubois)—-san antonio wins it in 6(although we have the home court advantage in the game)—-but idk with the rotations—-plus changing dallas players—adding the 3 wizrads gave them a 2k10 rating of 84 or 85 and us 81——so i hope this would happen too in real life
and i’ve done the simulation 5 times—-and its always 6

Ginobelieve!!!!!!!!
----That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)

by tp_09 on Apr 17, 2010 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dirk and Matchups
We still don’t have anybody who can make Dirk work for a shot. When it comes to money time, he will continue to eat our lunch with his mid-range game. We have a matchup problem when the play Dirk at the 4. It gets worse when they play him at the 5. When the Mavs go small, who will Tim cover? A lineup of Dirk, Butler, Marion, Terry, and Kidd will create a LOT of problems for the Spurs.

I kept waiting for you to destroy this in the positive section. That lineup might be “nightmarish” for us but it sure will be nightmarish for them too. Who would guard Timmy? Hell, who would keep Blair from going for his first 30-30? (btw I believe Blair can be very effective even with their bigs playing).

Going for the first even year championship!

by Sh!fty on Apr 16, 2010 11:06 AM CDT reply actions  

When they go small, we could rest Duncan and go with Blair and Bonner. Blair would own every board like you said, and Bonner and Blair wouldn’t fair too much worse in the mismatch against Dirk and Marion. Marion is probably the last offensive option in that set too. Five offensive players and only one basketball.

by BlaseE on Apr 16, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree. I really hope Pop turns Blair loose Dirk like a pitbull. Dirk is a finesse shooter so physically body him up early, before he finds his stroke. You can’t stop Dirk, but you sure can get him off his game and force him to have off nights.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on Apr 16, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Problem being, of course, that pesky halo rule.

There is a halo rule, right? I mean, how else can you explain the cacophony of whistles that erupts whenever Blair gets within 18 inches of an established NBA player?

/shameless homer

Man, that felt kind of good. . . .

I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.

by Lauri on Apr 16, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

if you just see blair getting 2 offensive board whether getting it in or not versus 3 other white shirts—-dallas players is crazy and those crazy lay ups and he made 2 jumpers?
woah!
this time small ball=30-30 for blair,LoL—-but that’s so unrealistic—-this is not an l.a. small ball—cuz they’ll go for odom and walton—still big—-but mavs small ball is our advantage plus our guards can guard their guards

Ginobelieve!!!!!!!!
----That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)

by tp_09 on Apr 17, 2010 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

in the finale game i can say that bonner is having a great time defending dirk and doing a great job
i think my eyes fooled me,but yes bonner plays defense and ave 2.5 or 3 steals in the past two games—-i really don’t know if his just lucky after reading a fortune cookie

Ginobelieve!!!!!!!!
----That is Matt Bonner straight down the lane with the dunk,I repeat Matt Bonner down the lane with the dunk!LoL---NBA guy that recaps the games on NBA.com(Spurs-T'Wolves recap)

by tp_09 on Apr 17, 2010 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

The first paragraph sums it up, probably for us all. Before Manu went all Ma-Nu I had serious doubts. Anyway, in regard to the half empy/half full preview. The fan in me leans toward the half full one, with the Vulcan in me adding a 30-35% mix of the half empty. I guess that makes a 1/3 full. Hopefully this results a good drink.

Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. - Confucius

by raynorschiene on Apr 16, 2010 11:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Ha Ha! Vulcans…….you guys are great at parties!

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Apr 16, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Logically speaking, THE BEST!!! Ha Ha!

Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. - Confucius

by raynorschiene on Apr 16, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Long time no see.

Welcome back in time for the playoffs, raynor.

5 in 10
o;—-)

by J.R. Wilco on Apr 16, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wish I could say I’ve been lurking, but I haven’t. My employer cracked down on personal use of the internet and I just don’t have the time at home with the kiddos and with my night gig. Hopefully I’ll be able to drop a comment here and there.

Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. - Confucius

by raynorschiene on Apr 16, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Didn’t know you were a father.

How many kids do you have?

5 in 10
o;—-)

by J.R. Wilco on Apr 16, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

2 with my wife, 1 from another mother
So 3 me thinks ;-)

Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. - Confucius

by raynorschiene on Apr 16, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe there’s an Iphone app for ptr. If not, someone should make.

THAT would be sweet!

Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. - Confucius

by raynorschiene on Apr 16, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

There is, but there’s no commenting on it.

Do a search for it.

5 in 10
o;—-)

by J.R. Wilco on Apr 16, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Will do. Thanks

Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. - Confucius

by raynorschiene on Apr 16, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

You can read and comment from the iPhone, but you have to do so via the web browser, and not the PtR iPhone app.

5 in 10
o;—-)

by J.R. Wilco on Apr 16, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

However, you CAN read and comment from your Blackberry.

I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.

by Lauri on Apr 16, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Blackberry=Godsend for me lol

"You may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas." -Davy Crockett
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by Trey Felder on Apr 16, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn’t find it. I tried searched the app store for “ptr”, then “pounding the rock” and nada. :-(

Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. - Confucius

by raynorschiene on Apr 16, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was going to say, I’ve looked before too and I haven’t found it

by Big50 on Apr 16, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

It’s no longer available. But there is full commenting in the mobile web version.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 16, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I guess I’m lucky to have gotten it when it was available, eh?

5 in 10
o;—-)

by J.R. Wilco on Apr 16, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

No longer available? Who and how is this decided?

Crap

Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. - Confucius

by raynorschiene on Apr 16, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just go to PtR on your browser and go from there. The only problem is that it will suck your battery down if you’re on 3G instead of wifi.

by Big50 on Apr 16, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

what about for this?

by Cedarpark on Apr 16, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

hope sprang out of the poo

PtRockers, I believe that we have our playoff shirt.

5 in 10
o;—-)

by J.R. Wilco on Apr 16, 2010 11:35 AM CDT reply actions  

And maybe we can contact the guy who created this:


to see if we can create some kind of co-branding opportunity.

5 in 10
o;—-)

by J.R. Wilco on Apr 16, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nice

Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. - Confucius

by raynorschiene on Apr 16, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

what – f that guy

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Apr 16, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Our glass is full of grit. Spurs in five.

by Cedarpark on Apr 16, 2010 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

couldn’t have said it better myself +1

"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Apr 16, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

rec’d.

Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis

by SpursfanSteve on Apr 16, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

You’re green

5 in 10
o;—-)

by J.R. Wilco on Apr 16, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

and 1

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on Apr 16, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

simply brilliant.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney

by bellasa on Apr 16, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

One of the best I have seen for a while now. Love it. Rec’ed

by Heman on Apr 16, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is a sick-ass tattoo on the little guys belly.

Crappy teams fear us !

by alamobro on Apr 17, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who knows? I know! Well, I like to think I do. So many keys to this series. How about winning the first game, as they did at our place last season? How about winning the 3pt differential in most every game? FT shooting has been a problem for us as of late and in the playoffs we know Dirk gets babied, unless anyone has forgotten the Joey Crawford Abomination on May 13, 2006: 24 FTA and Timmy fouling out.

I do think it’s important to note that the Spurs’ big-3 have only played against the Mavs once this season. Twice in the past 13 games going back to last season. Think about that. Imagine if we had only played them with Dirk, Kidd and Terry 2 out of 13 times. Now think about the growth of Hill and presence of Blair. Think of how more athletic the team is without Finley, Thomas, JV and Udoka.

Finally, though the Spurs’ defense has been below what we find normal, they have held the Mavs under 100 points and 42% shooting in three of the four games this season. It would seem where we need improvement is offensive execution and scoring. With all guys now knowing their roles and the big-3 healthy, we got this. Spurs in 6.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Apr 16, 2010 1:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Spurs in 5….and fuck it, spurs by 20 in game 1.

Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis

by SpursfanSteve on Apr 16, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Spurs in 4…and fuck it, spurs by 30+ in 2, 3, 4.

by spursfan_needs_counseling on Apr 16, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

2, 3, and 4 combined or each?

by BlaseE on Apr 16, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Clinching on their floor in game 5? Oh man, I’ll take that. I lie; I want that.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Apr 16, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure how much stock to put into the last game, but I think it’s clear the Spurs will have to win this using their offense. They killed us with their ball screens, which got Kidd at 3 and Nowitski open at mid-range constantly. The Spurs also still have trouble with quick guards, so Barea and the Boobouis (or whatever) will likely cause trouble. Our rebounding seems much improved though (with TD, Blair, McDyess, RJ, and Manu all rebounding well right now, versus only Timmy last year). I can’t see this years team stopping them consistently, so in order to win they’ll have to be at peak efficiency on offense.

Honestly, I think TP playing up to form off the bench is the Spurs difference maker. Manu and Timmy will hold things up of course, but TP playing at is best is what will provide the Spurs separation. Top to bottom they have more talent, but we have 3 of the top 4 players in the series. It’s definitely hard to predict.

by Neuwaldegg on Apr 16, 2010 3:18 PM CDT reply actions  

This:

Nowitski open at mid-range constantly

is what I fear most.

I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.

by Lauri on Apr 16, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Keeping It Real~

You are what you are. And unfortunately for the Spurs that means inconsistent. Spotty 3 point shooting will only suffer more when their opponents start playing playoff D. The reason Matt Bonner and Roger Mason couldn’t buy a shot in last years playoffs is because most of their 3 point attempts were contested.

How many times did we see this team come up short and unable to get critical stops in crunch time. And as much as I hate to admit it the Mavs have done a much better job of finding guys to match up with Timmy than we’ve done of finding guys to matchup with Dirk. McD has done a decent job against him in stretches this year but I can for see him getting in early foul trouble defending Dirk.

The Spurs best shot to win this series would involve the big 3 averaging a collective 80 ppg and getting some combination of 20+ from the bench. I don’t know if they can do that 4 times in this series.

I hope I’m wrong. Man do I hope I’m wrong!

by Este on Apr 16, 2010 4:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Don’t forget – RJ and Hill may not be good enough to make it a big 5, but they are much better than your usual role players.

by swgeek on Apr 16, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

you’re crazy if you think Hill, RJ, Blair, Bonner, Mason, Bogans and Dice and maybe even a little Temple average a combined 20 points over this series. I bet it is closer to 30 or 40 than 20.

by BlaseE on Apr 16, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

RJ and Hill will average over 20 combined by themselves.

by BlaseE on Apr 16, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let’s say they are able to get a decent contribution from the role players can the big 3 average a combined 80 pts a game. If this was last season’s Tony Parker I would say it’s likely but he clearly isn’t playing at that level right now.

I do believe the big 3 will have at least 1 or 2 games where they score a combined 80 but I don’t know if they’re capable of doing it for 4 games.

I will reiterate I hope like hell I’m wrong. I would love nothing more than sending the Mavs home. The only thing gave me as much pleasure as seeing the Spurs win another championship in 2007 was watching the Mavs get pimp slapped by Golden St.

by Este on Apr 16, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you’re assuming that too many points will be scored. The Mavs only broke 100 points once vs the Spurs this season. Even last year’s playoffs, when the Spurs were older and had less depth, they broke 100 in only two of the five games. Add in playoff pace and both teams focusing on defense and you have to lower expectations for both teams. Our big-3 will see an increase in minutes played per game, whereas Dirk Kidd and Terry already play heavy minutes. I think the norm will be our big-3 combining for 60-65+ points. I would then expect RJ and Hill to bring 20-25+. That’s 80-90 points. The remainder will come, depending on the game, from Dyce, Bonner, Blair and perhaps RMJ. That should bring the team up to 95-105 points per game. If we are superior at rebounding (as we should be; this is the stat where we lost last playoffs), play competent defense and keep the turnovers under 12 per game we win.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Apr 16, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

By this analysis you also to have call out the Mavs for being inconsistent. How else do you lose at home to the Knicks by 34? They too lost at home to the Blazers without Roy. 8 OT games. They’ve struggled against OKC in ways the Spurs didn’t. They’ve lost late season home games to the same Magic and Celtics teams that the Spurs defeated by double digits. Truthfully, they’re the 2nd instead of 3rd seed because Memphis blew a 12 point lead in the final 4 and a half minutes two weeks ago when Gasol went out injured.

Their personality is much like Jason Terry: one night its 26 points and four made 3s. The next night he’s 0-6 from range and scores 4 points. Marion is similar. Dirk and Kidd are the consistent guys that you want to keep from having an easy and great night. Focus on shutting down the other guys and this team is very beatable. If Dirk then has an off night they lose.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Apr 16, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Spurred On you make a good point. But, I believe as what often happens in playoffs series the stars will cancel each other out so it comes down to role players. Who is more likely to have an impact RJ, Bonner and Mason and Co. or Terry, Marion, and Butler and Co.

If G Hill is effective considering his ankle I think he could be the non star spark the Spurs need. But we’ll see starting Sunday.

I know hind sight is 20/20 but if Pop was keeping Duncan and Ginobili out of the season finale wouldn’t have made sense to keep Hill out as well considering he was just coming back from a sprained ankle. Oh well!

by Este on Apr 16, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the first difference is we have more stars (Manu, Timmy & Tony to Dirk and Kidd). Plus our three all usually avg at or above 20 for the playoffs whereas only Dirk does for them, so there’s no cancel factor there. We have the advantage. Dallas would then have the offensive edge with Terry, Marion and Butler over RJ, Hill and Dyce. But it’s not so one sided when you consider that our three role players bring more on defense. I then think that Blair and Bonner bring a bit more than Haywood and Damp, certainly in terms of versatility.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Apr 16, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

RJ, Hill, Dice are pretty good. Blair can be good depending on how much height is out there. A lot depends on which BonBon shows up. He has been awesome lately (for a red-headed role player) – if he can keep that up during the playoffs that would be a huge plus. Sadly I have absolutely no faith in Mason at this point.

by swgeek on Apr 16, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

IMO, Blair’s mentality is the bigger they are, the harder they fall. He dominated BOTH of the Mavs 7 footers on weds. I’d love to see him do it again.

I think when Pop said Blair hit the rookie wall it made him angry, so he found the damn wall and last game was him lol-ing a whole through it.

Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis

by SpursfanSteve on Apr 16, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

BLAAAAAAAAIR played thirty-six minutes and change. IRC, that’s the most he’s gotten in recent weeks. Plus, he only three fouls called on him. Maybe officials Tom Washington, James Capers and Mark Ayotte were feeling generous.

...!!

by transgojobot on Apr 17, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Spurs in 6 ..cuz tony will dominate fisher

by i luv this site on Apr 16, 2010 10:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Over the last 21 games, hope sprang out of the poo like a field of poppies.

Can we immortalize that?

I smell death... everywhere.

by LatinD on Apr 17, 2010 12:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Wouldn’t the glass be full if it is “Spurs in 4”? That to me screams a playoff series that went easy (even if all games were decided in the last minute).

by grego21 on Apr 17, 2010 2:30 AM CDT reply actions  

I think the Mavs are better at every spot. Dirk>Duncan, Kidd>Parker, Haywood/Erika>ginger, Butler> Manu, Matrix> whoever, The whole mavs bench>scrubs.

by StarCowMav on Apr 17, 2010 2:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Butler > Manu is the funniest thing I’ve seen all week.

by BlaseE on Apr 17, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the laugh. Come again any time.

by CapHill on Apr 17, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

cap…lol

Crappy teams fear us !

by alamobro on Apr 17, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dirk vs Duncan is probably a wash. Both offer so much to their teams, especially with no back to backs.

by grego21 on Apr 17, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why stop there? I think you forgot the other advantages the Mavericks possess over the lowly San Antonio…

Cuban>Peter Holt, Rick Carlisle> Greg Poppovich, Mavs fans>Spurs Fans.

The most crucial advantage though….. Mavs Man> Spurs Coyote.

Crappy teams fear us !

by alamobro on Apr 17, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

:::Pats StarbovineMav on the head and sends them on their way:::

Crappy teams fear us !

by alamobro on Apr 17, 2010 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

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