The Joys of Self-Analysis or What Color Is PtRs Parachute?
by Lauri on Feb 3, 2010 11:22 AM CST
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In the comments to another post, we digressed in our usual madcap, PtR way into a bunch of references to various personality inventories. What the hell are those, you may be saying, to which I may be replying, where the hell have you been living the last 50 years, chum? To which you may be answering, prison. In Haiti. With a really bad cold. To which I would be forced to mumble in response, my bad, man. Let's talk about it after the jump.
So here's what I'm talking about -- in 1921, Carl Jung proposed a set of typological theories (theories, mind you) that were seized upon by a gullible curious American public thirsting for knowledge about their relatively young collective psyche. Basically, he proposed that there were two types of cognitive functions, the rational or "judging" (thinking, feeling) and the irrational or "perceiving" (sensing, intuition). He also, according to wikipedia, proposed that these functions are expressed in both introverted and extraverted (Jung's deliberately chosen spelling) ways. From this grew the Myers-Briggs personality inventory developed by, confusingly enough, Isabel Briggs Myers (okay, and her mom, Katherine Briggs, but I think it's more fun to say the Myers-Briggs questionnaire was developed by someone named Briggs-Myers).
To quote again from wikipedia,
The Myers-Briggs typology model regards personality type as similar to left or right handedness: individuals are either born with, or develop, certain preferred ways of thinking and acting. The MBTI sorts some of these psychological differences into four opposite pairs, or dichotomies, with a resulting 16 possible psychological types. None of these types are "better" or "worse"; however, Briggs and Myers theorized that individuals naturally prefer one overall combination of type differences. In the same way that writing with the left hand is hard work for a right-hander, so people tend to find using their opposite psychological preferences more difficult, even if they can become more proficient (and therefore behaviorally flexible) with practice and development.
David Keirsey further mapped some temperaments to the Myers-Briggs personality types, and as the years went by several other widely used personality inventories came into use, including the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory and the Personality Assessment Inventory, and decades later here we are with trillions of goofy little Facebook quizzes that promise to tell you what you're "really like" and which house at Hogwarts you should be sorted into.
There's a lot of criticism directed toward these sorts of tests and their validity or lack thereof. And I think there certainly may have been a time when people (Americans in particular) placed too much stock in them, making them an integral part of hiring practices, clinical assessments of mental health, prenuptial agreements (I'm making that up), and so forth. But at the same time, they are based on certain universal observations, plus, they are (as Manuwar pointed out) WICKED FUN to take and discuss. They're kind of like horoscopes in that they're general enough to apply to just about anyone, but they give you an excuse to linger over the fascinating tapestry of your own existence.
SO! Let's find out what PtR is made of, shall we? You have to pay cold hard cash to get a genuine Myers-Briggs or Keirsey assessment analyzed by a qualified interpreter, but there are a number of streamlined and relatively true-to-the-source self-inventories out there, and hours of fun to be had! Follow the links and share (if you want) your results in the comments.
1. Myers-Briggs type personality assessment (answer gender question first and then answer about 50 scale-based questions)
2. Another Myers-Briggs type assessment (72 questions of the yes/no variety)
3. Keirsey "mini" report (This is an official Keirsey sorter, but it will only tell you your temperament--to find out which of several subcategories you are, you have to pay. Nevertheless, the free part is still pretty interesting. The paranoid more cautious among you may not like this one because the site asks you to register. But that's what Yahoo accounts are for, right? Come on, you know you have one for redtube.)
4. The Big Five personality test (developed in the 1970s; measures where you fall on a scale for the factors of openness, conscientiousness, extroversion, agreeableness, and neuroticism, which, if you know me, shut up)
5. Because I don't like the number 4 (it looks smug to me, don't ask), let's throw in one last test--the learning style inventory (I haven't even taken this one yet, so if it sucks, I'm sorry)
Good luck, fellow travelers. It should be a fun journey.
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So, my results:
1. INFJ (On more nuanced tests, I get an XNFJ, meaning that I’m neither an introvert nor an extrovert. Just a vert.)
2. INFJ (wow, consistency—I’m kind of surprised. I generally test all over the map with this sort of thing.)
3. Idealist (sigh—really?)
4. Oh, this one is hard to report. Okay, let’s see, I got an 80 on Openness, 13 on Conscientiousness (fuck, this is what you get for honesty!), 51 on Extroversion (see, I’m just a vert!), 44 on Agreeableness (heh, I guess I suck), and 71 on Neuroticism (that’s better than I expected, and shut up!)
5. Boo, another place that wants you to register. Used the Yahoo mail. Results: visual 9, social 11, physical 11, aural 13, verbal 17, solitary 12, logical 9.
There you have it, me in a glib and possibly highly unrepresentative nutshell.
Post links to other inventories and assessments if you got ’em!
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
13 on conscientiousness? Just the other day I was wondering, "what kind of people can be prison executioners?
"I will five all over this blog." - JRW
I protest that result. I am slightly disorganized. That should not equate “the kind of person who will let your dog starve while you’re out of town.”
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
My results:
1. ISTJ – “Trustee”. Decisiveness in practical affairs. Guardian of time- honored institutions. Dependable. 11.6% of total population.
2. Your Type is ISTJ – You are: very expressed introvert, slightly expressed sensing personality, moderately expressed thinking personality, moderately expressed judging personality.
3. N/A – what does that say? :-P
4. I’m a O10-C46-E1-A50-N90 Big Five!!
5. Style Scores- Visual 8 – Social 7 – Physical 4 – Aural 12 – Verbal 6 – Solitary 14 – Logical 13
And we get along so well for being complete opposites!
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
Of course we do. There’s a phrase that’s one of my favorite- “Just because we don’t see eye to eye, doesn’t mean we cannot walk hand in hand”, right? Everyone on PTR is united for (atleast) one common cause. ;-)
Or in the words of the great Bob Dylan
“We always did feel the same, we just saw it from a different point of view” :)
Love this whole discussion btw…
Honestly. You kids today, with your hippity-hop music and your Twiddle. - Lauri
1. ENFP- Uncanny sense of the motivations of others. Life is an exciting drama. 8.1% of total population
2. INFP- Calm and serene face to the world, and can seem shy, even distant around others. But inside they’re anything but serene, having a capacity for personal caring rarely found in the other types
Fitting because the introvert extrovert thing is something I’m never sure about. I enjoy people and conversing but also I love me some alone time.
Tony: ESFP
Manu: INTJ
Timmy: INFJ
"I will five all over this blog." - JRW
so obviously you’re gonna agree witht my Timmy assesment what about Manu and Tony? Whaddaya think?
"I will five all over this blog." - JRW
I think it’s hilarious that you have Tony and Manu as polar opposites.
But probably accurate.
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
would you rather be fluent in every language? or be able to proficiently play every musical instrument?
"I will five all over this blog." - JRW
What an interesting question! I’d have to go with fluency in languages, but only by a little bit. I am not musically inclined but would like to be able to play even one instrument okay.
I’d go with language. I already play percussion – who cares about the other instruments!
Silly things do cease to be silly if they are done by sensible people in an impudent way. - Jane Austen
Q: What do you call someone who hangs out with a bunch of musicians?
A: The percussionist.
Consider the gun jumped
5 in 10
First one:
Introverted (I) 52.78% Extroverted (E) 47.22%
Sensing (S) 50% Intuitive (N) 50%
Thinking (T) 53.33% Feeling (F) 46.67%
Perceiving (P) 52.94% Judging (J) 47.06%
Free Jung Personality Test (similar to Myers-Briggs/MBTI)
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Feb 3, 2010 2:49 PM CST reply actions
Number two:
ENFJ
Strength of preferences, in order: 1, 62, 38, 1
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Feb 3, 2010 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
1. ESTP (57% E, 53% S, 74% T, 75% P)
2. ENTP
3. Artisan
4. I’m a O59-C10-E83-A3-N7 Big Five!!
5. Visual 13, Social 12, Physical 6, Aural 12, Verbal 16, Solitary 13, Logical 15
Thanks for the fun lunch hour, Lauri. And if it makes you feel any better, I score less on the conscientiousness and agreeable scales than you.
Silly things do cease to be silly if they are done by sensible people in an impudent way. - Jane Austen
And we have similar learning styles. Perhaps we should start some sort of business model for psychopaths?
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
Perfect, because according to the Personality Disorders Test in Wayne’s link (above), I have some schizoid and antisocial tendencies, but no problems with paranoia, which is very surprising. Not surprising is that I have not tendency towards OCD.
Silly things do cease to be silly if they are done by sensible people in an impudent way. - Jane Austen
And to top it all off, which famous leader am I like? Glad you asked.
What Famous Leader Are You?
personality tests by similarminds.com
Silly things do cease to be silly if they are done by sensible people in an impudent way. - Jane Austen
Anybody who ever questions the legitimacy of CapHill being PtR’s karma police should shut up now :)
by silverandblack_davis on Feb 3, 2010 6:40 PM CST up reply actions
Heh. I got:
What Famous Leader Are You?
personality tests by similarminds.com
(And for the record, I LIKE BIll Clinton, so I’m not heartbroken about the result. Also? My uncle’s brother’s ex-wife Dolly was Clinton’s high school girlfriend who went on to have a somewhat . . . tempestuous . . . long-term relationship with him. Later, after falling on hard times, my uncle’s brother sold the story to the National Enquirer. So dignified, yes?)
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
What a coincidence… I got:
This just made my shitty day a lot better.
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
My day just got shittier… heard an explosion in my apt looked around and everything seemed normal. After a few seconds a sound of running water and the realization that water was coming down the ceiling into the bathroom and inside my apartment. My neighbors water tank ruptured or something. Not even Einstein can save this day.
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
I’ll take the quizzes later, but we should add a poll to this with the 16 types. People can vote by their opinions of themselves if 1 and 2 disagree. I think it would be cool to see the percentage breakdowns of the types.
Yea, I agree with adding a poll. Lauri?
by silverandblack_davis on Feb 3, 2010 6:41 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder if could work up a scatterplot of some kind. . . .
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
sure seems like we have a lot of INTJ’s and INTP’s compared to the 5% of the population the study says the population makes up.
I think it would also be interesting to have your spouse or best friend answer one of these as he or she sees you and check if your perception of how you live is similar to their perception of you.
thanx Lauri!
This was interesting and fun… I’m O20-C69-E79-A44-N43 Big Five!! And on the first 2 MB-type tests, I’m ESFJ – “Provider” or “Seller”. Most sociable of all types. Nurturer of harmony. “Otstanding” host or hostesses. 12.3% of total population.
Honestly. You kids today, with your hippity-hop music and your Twiddle. - Lauri
Hmm, let’s see, the psychological / personality make-up of Spur lovin’ Ptr members. Where do I start?. . .WAIT! This is a trap to get me banned, isn’t it? Why it’s absolutely diabolical!
(Hey, and it is less than a week until Spurs @ Lakers, I think.)
Which of these things is not like the others? 15 NBA Championships, most wins in NBA history, current NBA champions, lost by 20 to the F'ing Spurs.
I don’t know what this is supposed to be like… Let’s see how I do, anyway.
Bone breaking? -340
Dunkin' Cheerleaders
1st test:
ENTJ – “Field Marshall”. The basic driving force and need is to lead. Tend to seek a position of responsibility and enjoys being an executive. 1.8% of total population.
Bone breaking? -340
Dunkin' Cheerleaders
You’re an Alpha male.
Also ladies, if you click that website, be warned that it might be one of the most sexist websites on the interwebs, I warned you.
To serve man.
Gustatus similis pullus.
Rational extreme introvert. Surprise surprise. And all this time I thought I was a happy go lucky extrovert.
The results:
1.
INTJ – “Mastermind”. Introverted intellectual with a preference for finding certainty. A builder of systems and the applier of theoretical models. 2.1% of total population.
Introverted (I) 76.47% Extroverted (E) 23.53%
Intuitive (N) 56.41% Sensing (S) 43.59%
Thinking (T) 68.75% Feeling (F) 31.25%
Judging (J) 51.72% Perceiving (P) 48.28%
2. ISTP.
Famous people of your particular type
Charles Bronson, George Soros, Steffi Graff (Tennis)
You are:
* very expressed introvert
* slightly expressed sensing personality
* distinctively expressed thinking personality
* slightly expressed perceiving personality
3. RATIONAL™.
Yeah right:
Rationals are very scarce, comprising as little as 7 to 10 percent of the population. But because of their drive to unlock the secrets of nature, and to develop new technologies, they have done much to shape our world.
4. I’m a O35-C6-E9-A2-N71 Big Five!!
5.
Style Scores
Visual 7
Social 4
Physical 10
Aural 5
Verbal 14
Solitary 14
Logical 12
To serve man.
Gustatus similis pullus.
uh…..we are both INTJs
"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
I think a definition of INTJ should be that you don’t take these types of tests. It would be known as the “INTJ Paradox”.
To serve man.
Gustatus similis pullus.
What Classic Movie Are You?
personality tests by similarminds.com
This makes absolutely no sense when compared to my famous leader.
Silly things do cease to be silly if they are done by sensible people in an impudent way. - Jane Austen
1. I’m awesome.
2. I’m fucking awesome.
3. I’m fucking badass awesome.
4. I suck.
Go SPURS go.
"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA
Is this multiple choice? Because if it is, I know which one I’m going with.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Feb 4, 2010 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
That’s the philosophical quip I was expecting from you.
"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA
by SgtinManusArmy on Feb 4, 2010 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
“You’re easily threatened by change. You surround yourself with an air of assholery as to not let your true feelings through. You wish you could vote for Ronald Reagan every election, and you yearn for the good old days. You’re a Tea-Bagger”
To serve man.
Gustatus similis pullus.
It’s clear how badly you want to imagine me as a tea-bagger, but it just isn’t happening. I’m not a fish guy.
"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA
by SgtinManusArmy on Feb 4, 2010 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
1. Introverted Intuitive Thinking Perceiving
All of the other sites are blocked and I’ll probably forget about this when I get home.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Feb 4, 2010 2:39 PM CST reply actions
Yeeeeeeeah, I don’t know about this.
Extroverted (E) 54.84% Introverted (I) 45.16%
Sensing (S) 53.49% Intuitive (N) 46.51%
Feeling (F) 57.89% Thinking (T) 42.11%
Perceiving (P) 64.71% Judging (J) 35.29%
ESFP – “Entertainer”. Radiates attractive warmth and optimism. Smooth, witty, charming, clever. Fun to be with. Very generous. 8.5% of the total population.
Hilariously maladjusted. But for all the right reasons.
I finally had the time and energy to take the tests:
1. INTP:
Introverted (I) 61.11% Extroverted (E) 38.89%
Intuitive (N) 57.14% Sensing (S) 42.86%
Thinking (T) 61.54% Feeling (F) 38.46%
Perceiving (P) 60% Judging (J) 40%
INTP – “Architect”. Greatest precision in thought and language. Can readily discern contradictions and inconsistencies. The world exists primarily to be understood. 3.3% of total population.
2. INTP:
Your Type is
INTP
Introverted Intuitive Thinking Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
44 62 38 11
You are:
* moderately expressed introvert
* distinctively expressed intuitive personality
* moderately expressed thinking personality
* slightly expressed perceiving personality
3. Rational
4. O80 – C17 – E22 – A17 – N22
5. I was too lazy to do five.
6. World Leader: JFK? Really? “You like power because it increases your sexual options”? Untrue. I resent that. Unless more power will bag me Natalie Portman, Heather Graham, Angelina Jolie, Megan Fox, Alicia Keys, and Beyonce Knowles. Yes, in that order.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
I noticed you never get anything bad in these tests. You know, " You are a worthless human being and you make humanity worse by your mere existence", " You are a cruel, cruel person, and I tremble at the idea of you going through life destroying lives", “You’re Kobe Bryant”.
It’s always good stuff.
To serve man.
Gustatus similis pullus.
I GOLed at this and your reply to SiMA above. You should make a Facebook quiz! Really.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
1. INTJ
Introverted (I) 78.57% Extroverted (E) 21.43%
Intuitive (N) 51.22% Sensing (S) 48.78%
Thinking (T) 57.14% Feeling (F) 42.86%
Judging (J) 63.89% Perceiving (P) 36.11%
INTJ – “Mastermind”. Introverted intellectual with a preference for finding certainty. A builder of systems and the applier of theoretical models. 2.1% of total population.
2. blocked by my work as “entertainment”
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