Pop, team personality, and why are we here?
by swgeek on Feb 19, 2010 1:37 AM CST
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I, like most of you, love watching Spurs basketball. I also love reading PTR, sometimes even more than watching the games. PTR gives me context and gives each player a depth that I appreciate more when watching the games. The games become more than just basketball - it is about the interaction between the players, the interaction between the coach and his team, the playing out of conversations here on PTR.
However, lately, again like most of you, I have been feeling a little bummed out about all things Spurs. But not because of the losing. No team can win every single time, that would just get boring. I am bummed because of all the negativity, here and on other sites around the marvelous connection of people we call the internet.
So that made me question why I follow this particular team and this particular blog.
First, let's look at why we are Spurs fans. Some of you are from San Antonio, so you were brainwashed into it. No offense, but if you had been living in Boston you would be rabid foaming at the mouth leprechauns. Others are from Argentina and don't know any better. Um, I mean they are sucked into this soap opera by a certain demigod we all admire and love. Well, maybe not all of us.
What about the rest of us? San Antonio a small market with few exported fans. Obviously we did not pick the Spurs because they are winners otherwise we would all just be Lakers now. Nope, we picked a team because something about that team resonates with us. The team personality. What the players and coach represent, how they do things, how they act on and off the court. I loved David Robinson back from his college days (yes, I am that old, deal with it), but to be honest did not really follow him in the NBA - I was purely a college basketball fan until a few years ago. A few years ago I read a few articles about Tim Duncan and how ego-less he was, and that led me to reading about the Spurs and their outlook in general. Then I witnessed the craziness that was Manu and the genius that was Pop and was sold. Not because Manu was so great, though he was. Not because Tim Duncan is the greatest power forward of all time, though he is. Because of the attitude! Totally ego-less. Manu comes off the bench. Tim doesn't act anything like a primadonna superstar.
And Pop, wow, Pop is just amazing. He always gives refreshing interviews and always give credit to the players. I have never heard him toot his own horn. But what I really liked about him is how he looks at the long term, not the short term. Even Tim's first year, Pop worried more about Tim's development, i.e. the long term, than winning in the short term. Year after year, managing minutes, tinkering with line-ups instead of assuming he already knows the best thing to do based on the previous year - be honest, that is what most coaches and fans do. He is constantly teaching and learning and takes nothing for granted. Even when he yells at his players they all go out together to eat afterwards etc. Most of all, he is not afraid to try crazy things if he thinks they will help in the long term.
The themes for the Spurs are: team concept and constant improvement over time. That really resonates with me - I don't care about winning or losing in the short term, just constant improvement, and focus when it really counts. But the non-ego, total-team thing is what I really love more than anything else.
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I have read countless posts and articles that say similar things about Duncan, Manu, Parker, Pop. That is a big part of why they represent the Spurs and everything I like about the Spurs. And make no mistake - Pop is a huge reason why the team personality is the way it is. He has no patience for big egos or non-team players. (The other big reason is that we have had stars like David R. and Timmeh that set the tone). Pop works really hard to create good chemistry and tries to draft or otherwise bring in players that fit into the system. And I don't mean on the court basketball system.
I have heard it said (from only one poster, but still) that superstars would not play for Pop. That is probably true for some superstars - would LeBron ever agree to a system where he is not King James? Where the organization does not bow to his every need? Same with Kobe. Watch the games - tries to coach as much as Phil, and part of the genius of PJ is that he lets Kobe be Kobe. Pop would not allow that, it is not the Spurs system. If we fire Pop and bring in Phil Jackson and move to LA maybe we could entice Kobe to sign with us, but that would be a completely different team. Only the name on the jersey would be the same.
Maybe you feel the same way, maybe not. But I feel strongly about the team personality. That is why I personally would not do, for example, a trade of LeBron straight up for Tim. LeBron is the greatest player in the game right now, but it is more than just about skills of the star - it is about character and personality of the team.
Tim, Manu, Pop and even Frenchie resonate with me, LeBron does not. That is why I even prefer the failed Jefferson experiment to a trade for Carter or Wallace (oops, just lost a bunch of you here). Win or lose, I am following a team trying to win the Spurs way. If I just wanted to follow a winner I could have switched to the Lakers.
One day, Pop will retire. I don't see any way that R.C.Buford will fire him, any more than I see any way that the greatest power forward of all time gets traded. Because like it or not, those two define the Spurs as we think of them right now. Hopefully we can keep the Spurs personality interesting by picking the right replacements, but it will be the end of an era no matter what.
On a related note, why are we here. No, not here in the universe, I am not that deep. Why are we on PTR? There are other blogs. 48MOH is a masterpiece (even if the heathens talk about trading Manu). There are forums where we can rant and rave and vent and ogle photos of beautiful women. I personally always complain about lack of time, yet choose to spend much of my limited free time over here. Why? Mainly to ogle photos of beautiful fish.
But also because of the particular personality of this community. PTR, to me, matches the Spurs perfectly. Irreverent, yet thoughtful. Demanding, yet egoless. Funny, sarcastic, insulting even but without true vitriol. Everything is done lightly, even the RJ and small-ball bashing is done with self-effacing humor. The quotes, the nicknames, everything. We want to win as much as the next blog, but are almost never cruel about it. This really is a community in much the way the Spurs really are a team.
There are few other places that a poster can go to another country and other posters - without ever having met him before - will house him, entertain him, show him around, and feel really blessed to be able to do so.
What happens if we change that? What happens if we here at PTR stand up and DEMAND things from Spurs management, if we vent and rant until our fingers bleed, if we belittle the team, management, coaching and each other?
At best, nothing. Buford is not firing Pop based on our rants. At worst, we spread this malaise that seems to be gripping the Spurs world these days. This is not a team that gets fired up with a kick in the pants or depressing posts - this is a team that thrives on teamwork, support, and just the pure joy of playing.
But the other thing that happens is that we change the personality of PTR. For me personally that would be a really sad thing, though it would suddenly create more free time.
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Hipuks has shamed me into adding some extra words here.
First, I was not referring only to GT, but to negativity in general. Not just on here, but around the net, including 48MOH. I don't mean we should all agree and blindly support everything Spurs, that would be boring, just like never losing and winning every game by 50 points. We have all had strong discussions about things and I have questioned Pop's decisions at times too. One of the things I like about PTR vs many team blogs is that we don't have mindless cheerleading and the core writers here will poke fun at Pop or players regularly. It's just that there is a point beyond which mindless negativity, just like mindless cheerleading, gets tiring.
Secondly, I was commenting on what *I* like about the Spurs and PTR. Obviously there are many people that think winning is the only thing that matters. And hey, they buy jerseys too. But as long as they realize the trade-offs and would willingly make them. I chose the Spurs because of the team personality. But those poor suckers, um I mean lucky souls living in the area may not give a hoot about personality and just want their team to win.
But Hipuks makes a really good point. We *need* people like Ghostown and others to force us to think about different points of view and to question what we think is important. If fact, that is what made me think about what *I* like about PTR and the Spurs and prompted me to post.
I would also appreciate comments about why *you* are a Spurs fan and why you hang around these parts.
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If what we’re talking about is GhosTown being a dick around the site, then I do not agree. At all.
We need people like GhosTown, we need someone who will say what was previously considered taboo. Do I agree with what he says? No. Do I wish he was less confrontational and more humorous and didn’t post the same thing every single freaking time? Yes. But there’s people who probably wish I wasn’t such an asshole or used so many curse words.
It’s good for the site that GhosTown says something most don’t agree with, and that a few do. It’s good because otherwise you get group-think.
You get forums in which the regular posters all know each other and throughout their time there, have agreed on some basic facts. Anyone who then attacks those facts gets trashed by all the well known members as they all congratulate each other on how well they did.
It would be shit if that happened here.
It’s good that he’s not humorous like the rest of us, or he doesn’t try to be as friendly. Because that’s the way he is. Because if this forum hated sarcasm and curse words, I would hope to be tolerated even if I was not liked.
It’s easy to pick on someone who doesn’t go with the mold of the site. But imagine if this was a Tony loving website, and that when you said “Tony pass the fucking ball you surrender monkey!” people got pissed at you. Imagine if someone said, you know, Tony was a Finals MVP, he deserves a little more respect and then wrote about how you loving Manu so much changed the basic premise of the site.
You gotta put yourself in someone else’s shoes.
If people want to bemoan the lack of civility in PTR and yearn for the good ‘ole days in which everything was happiness then by all means go ahead. Last year we had the same situation when some of us thought they Spurs wouldn’t do shit in the playoffs and others thought so much negativity was bad. Guess what happened? PTR didn’t implode, everything continued as normal.
I respect your admiration for the Spurs way of doing things, and that you consider the big three untouchable. Other don’t though, for others winning is more important than keeping any one player. For other it’s time to fire Pop, or trade Manu, or do something, anything, because things aren’t working
Their way of thinking is no more or less better than yours. But we can’t just all stand on our pedestal looking down from above judging those who would dare trade one of the big three because they have no honor or whatever.
It’s good to have these discussions and it’s good to not have absolutes, like if you want to trade Timmy then you shouldn’t call yourself a Spurs fan, because for some winning or the future of the team is more important than any one part of the organization.
It’s good that some people are negative and some are positive and some would follow the team to the death and some gave up on the team. It’s good because if we all agreed, it would be nothing more than a giant circle jerk.
After reading all of that you might think it’s the biggest piece of bullshit you ever read in your life, and you know what? That’s good too.
To serve man.
Gustatus similis pullus.
by Hipuks on Feb 19, 2010 3:30 AM CST reply actions 7 recs
Dude, sometimes I really worry about you.
by silverandblack_davis on Feb 19, 2010 4:34 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, he’s old enough now, he can take care of himself most times.
Great post by the way, sw.
by silverandblack_davis on Feb 19, 2010 6:44 AM CST up reply actions
I worry about myself too. I was just watching Skeleton. These guys race down a luge track head first, with only a helmet for protection, with speeds approaching 90mph, 5g turns, and all of this on a sled that has neither brakes nor steering. And I’m here posting on a sports blog.
I have wasted my life.
To serve man.
Gustatus similis pullus.
Sorry, I disagree. Lack of moderation turned SpursTalk into the cesspool it sometimes is. GhostTown is a confrontational asshole, and I banned him because of it.
I don’t give a flying fuck about his opinions, or whether he hates Pop or not. Since when did we moderate content? How many “trade Manu” posts have we had through the years? Matthew Powell himself wanted to trade Manu for a bag of cheetos at one point. How many have ragged on Bonner, myself included? Again, it’s not the content, it’s the lack of civility. Tim Varner wants to trade Manu and I still worship the ground he stands on. Or some other metaphor not as creepy.
So no, in my opinion we don’t need people like GhostTown, and he has no truth that will propel the site into new depths of insight. You’re welcome to disagree, call me on it, make fun of my short fuse and my tyrant ways in every game thread from now until the end of time.
And you know what? You’ll never be banned because of it.
Bone breaking? -340
Dunkin' Cheerleaders
Of course I won’t be banned. I disagree in a way that people in this site happen to like and so I get a pass.
To serve man.
Gustatus similis pullus.
Yeah about that. Whoever has the power, I would appreciate it if I didn’t have mod powers and wasn’t a Ref anymore.
To serve man.
Gustatus similis pullus.
Is the stress getting to you?
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Feb 21, 2010 12:15 AM CST up reply actions
Ok, it should be gone.
So, if it wasn’t the stress, was it the embarrassment?
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Feb 21, 2010 12:37 AM CST up reply actions
Ah, too much work, not enough money.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Feb 21, 2010 12:55 AM CST up reply actions
It’s good for the site that GhosTown says something most don’t agree with, and that a few do. It’s good because otherwise you get group-think.
You get forums in which the regular posters all know each other and throughout their time there, have agreed on some basic facts. Anyone who then attacks those facts gets trashed by all the well known members as they all congratulate each other on how well they did.
It would be shit if that happened here.
I completely disagree with this. What is “shit” is what has been happening here. I hate reading my own fucking site. That is going to end now. My priorities are:
1. I like this site.
2. This site doesn’t use up more of my time than it already does.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Feb 19, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed Hipuks. I don’t agree with GT but it’s the freaking internet! To each his own, even ass-clowns.
"I will five all over this blog." - JRW
The internet is a great big place. Everybody can find a place that doesn’t mean every place is for everybody.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Feb 19, 2010 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, ATS! You said it!
Michael Bolton is NOT welcome here.
The intanglibles are with us tonite…its just those dang tangibles lke making shots and playing defense - bones
Thanks Hipuks, that is a really awesome response, worthy of a fan post if you could bother getting your lazy ass off the couch to write one, even if you just cut and paste the above response. I would rec the hell out of it.
It is not really aimed at GT, more at general negativity, which makes me sad and selfish me hates sad. I am going to update the post to be more open.
I still have to write a fanpost about my travels with my stupid dog and if I remember correctly, I never finished part IV of my epic series about going to Kern River.
I guess they’re my version of the Lexicon.
To serve man.
Gustatus similis pullus.
Well-written, swgeek. I’d say I agree completely, but group-think is apparently evil.
Bone breaking? -340
Dunkin' Cheerleaders
I don’t mind what GhosTown says. I don’t even mind the way he says it. I just wish he’d say it about 1/4th as often.
1/10th?
The intanglibles are with us tonite…its just those dang tangibles lke making shots and playing defense - bones
LOL. I had 1/10th at first then edited it to 1/4th to be less harsh.
by doggydogworld on Feb 20, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
Good stuff, sw! I’m a glass-half-full person so I appreciate your positivity about mySpurs. Never watched pro basketball til the Air Force brought me to SA in the mid-90s and I got sucked in by all the Spurs’ goodness, even in those less-than-glory days. And while I agree with Hipuks that PtR should be (is) a welcoming place, this is what resonates most about his post: “Do I wish he was less confrontational and more humorous and didn’t post the same thing every single freaking time? Yes.” I’m sure GT and his ilk share valuable insights, but I tend to scroll over their posts. On the other hand, I’ll read every word written by you and Hipuks and others…yea or nay, yall express yourselves so well and are so clever and that’s why I visit this site every day (so thanks!)
Honestly. You kids today, with your hippity-hop music and your Twiddle. - Lauri
Thanks for a great post!
I became a Spurs fan after moving to San Antonio 20 years ago. Like you, more because of the team spirit and their community involvement.
I enjoy PtR because of the various opinions expressed in a fun way(though I would prefer not to hear some of the trade suggestions)
I have great respect for Pop and his coaching and do not feel that the Spurs current problems are due to any lack in him.
Now that the trade deadline is past, it is time for my Spurs to get back to just being Spurs and play some great basketball.
Good write up. I agree with you that the Spurs “way” is what separates them from most other pro sports teams. I desperately want them to win and will call them out with I see something that I disagree with, but just general negativity does get old as does general butt kissing.
One think I like about PtR is that as negative as it gets there is always somebody writing a positive fan post about how they are not giving up hope or are still positive about this team. Example here and here
Hey all, I’m the old lady on this site, rarely comment but….what a great post.
sw, I feel exactly as you do, thank you for taking the time to post this. No matter what, as long as the ego less, classy Spurs remain, I will be a fan. As long as PtR stays the fun, educational ( yep, I always learn something BB wise here)no bashing site, I’ll always be lurking.
Hipuks, well said. I always enjoy your posts. I agree that we need different views here.
What I don’t feel is acceptable is personal attacks. I stopped reading GT because I felt he was just waiting for someone to dare to disagree with him. RESPECT is the key here. I stopped reading the SA.com blogs because of the same crap. My thought , get a life. So I did, since they don’t seem to care to. Reminds me of what I told my granddaughter how to handle bullies at school. “Do I care what YOU think, ah…no.”
I also wondered if GT and a few others might be trolls just trying to rattle chains. I try to ignore, taking away the ability to annoy. Or I thank the FSM for the moderators, some times you have to take the toy away to teach the child.
Wayne, you have taught me so much about BB, thank you for all of the time you put into this site. LD same thing, I so much appreciate and enjoyed reading about your visit here.
One last thing, isn’t Blair a blast to watch ???? Right up there with Manu and those two click so well, love the energy.
Timmy D .... enough said.
by Ms. Smith on Feb 19, 2010 11:16 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
I’ve always looked to PtR as a kind of virtual sports bar. A place where I can come and shoot the shit with other Spurs fans. Here in Dallas, I don’t have a place where I can go out and converse with fellow Tim Duncan lovers. This is that place for me. I, like many others on this site, enjoy a good back and forth debate. I like how we can give each other shit for what we say and do. The teasing, bantering, swearing, and sharing of personal stories are all fun for me. Conversing about these things is what friends do. I know that I rub some people the wrong way for some of the things I say. Just the same way I’ve been irked by comments made by others. But that’s what makes this place real. Let’s not lose sight of that.
But on the flip side. If someone is repeatedly disrespectful, unruly, offensive or just plain obnoxious, then they should be kicked out of the bar.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
I love all of the teasing and the back and forth bantering. Swearing doesn’t offend me, if I hadn’t given it up for Lent (tis true) there sure isn’t any words I don’t know or haven’t used.
Most of all , this site sets off belly laughs, like reading a Janet Evanovich book (Stephanie please, how can you pass Ranger up, I would have so had him by now!). You can see it coming…..just wonder who’s going to take the bait first.
But the bouncers do have a job, I have been happy to see them operate more than once while having fun in a bar. Same here.
Tim Duncan, it’s all been said. He is who brought me to this game.
Timmy D .... enough said.
I’m in the Morelli camp for settling down and the Ranger camp for all other situations. However, at this point, Stephanie has been dithering for over 10 books now. Is she ever going to make up her freaking mind? I do think Hipuks and Grandma Mazur would get along fabulously!
There’s the belly laugh! You are so right on Hipuks. Grandma Mazur might get the best of him tho.
I’m in the same camp, come on already Stephanie. I guess she’s got more morals than I do. I’m reading and think….this time she will. I would, of course with me it could be hot flashes I’m feeling instead of something else! I know guys, TMI.
Timmy D .... enough said.
Grandma Mazur would eat Hipuks for breakfast and then have a cookie at the funeral parlor to top him off.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Feb 19, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
Would it be an alfajore???
Honestly. You kids today, with your hippity-hop music and your Twiddle. - Lauri
Oh, absolutely. You know, now that I think about it, CapHill would be the Grandma Mazur to Hipuks’ Sally Sweet.
Ok, this is way too much. Which Stephanie Plum character are you?
Before LD shows up, it’s alfajor.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Feb 19, 2010 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
Damn. Somehow I ended up as Morelli.
I have my suspicions as to who would be Lula.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Feb 19, 2010 5:23 PM CST up reply actions
I rarely do this polls but somehow I ended up as Ranger……
No wonder I keep telling Steph to go for it. Really thought I might be Lula, thought I would die when she got stuck in the car window and her, hmm don’t want to get banned here, excessive upper body came out of her tube top. I’m reading this in a dr’s office, laughed so hard I had tears running down my face. Had to step outside. Love Lula, that girl knows how to go for it.
Timmy D .... enough said.
Yeah I thought of that errant “e” just after I hit the post button:(
That quiz was fun…I’m Morelli too! I like the description (smart, quick-witted, dominant, popular, prefer hands on to the tech way, like the simple comforts of life – beer, pizza and nice couch; very loyal, like being with your better half, although this doesn’t stop others from trying to get with you, you’re hot in jeans! Confident, level-headed and a pillar of trust.)…only wish it was all true! Now I have to go read the books;)
Honestly. You kids today, with your hippity-hop music and your Twiddle. - Lauri
i am far away from SA, spurs fans and texas, but a long time spurs fan, so for me PtR is like that vurtual sports bar that CMoney describes above. i get no chance for an outlet to talk spurs otherwise. sometmes we do toss in a few swear words and other vulgarities – but i can live with that. heck, sometime i even participate in that kind of behavior.
childish and personal and off-topic banter? we got that too and while it gets tiresome at times, you can always leave the bar if the table next to you is being obnoxious. this site is actually better than a bar in that way because you dont have to wrestle some jack-arse to the gorund and beat him senseless if necessary.
Thanks for the post, sw. You express why I am a Spurs fan.
As An Oklahoma State fan, I was really impressed with Tim Duncan during our run to the 1995 Final Four. He had the fundamental game that I, as a fan of the game, really appreciated. When Timmeh was drafted by the Spurs, I chose to become a fan. Mr. Robinson was already in SA, and there didn’t seem to be a downside to this team that “played the right way”. Although I haven’t always been able to follow as easily from afar, I don’t regret choosing the Spurs. And this from someone who’s never been to San Antonio – don’t hold it against me, bella.
He owns a ranch somewhere in OK. He used to occasionally go to games.
He may not have panned out in the NBA, but he was a heckuva college player.
Excellent, excellent, great, great post man!
I have to agree with the powers that be. Part, if not all of the reason I love this site is the moderation. I got tired of all the "F-U, you don’t know what you are talking about, your (insert_family_member) likes to fornicate with my (insert_human/animal_body_part) " that is the norm nowadays. This is why I love this blog and chose to stick around. We don’t need people like GT around here, and I’ll even go as far as to say the Spurs organization does not need fans like GT. There are a thousand other sites where your ramblings and rants might be appreciated, I don’t think this is one of them. If you don’t like it, start your own blog/site, yes I went there. I believe the domain name firepopbonnersucksyoupeoplejustdontgetit.com is available.
I don’t talk basketball, it’s not one of my strong points. I don’t think I could put together two coherent sentences about the pick-and-roll. I love the Spurs because I am a fan of the team. I was lucky, fortunate, blessed to be born and raised in San Antonio and the Spurs are my team. Win or lose, I’ll be there for them and support everything they do until the day I die even though I may not agree with it or think it may be best for the team, but then again what do I know. Do I get excited when they win? Hell yeah! Do I get upset when they lose? Fuck yeah! It’s part of being a fan. I’m of the mindset that you can’t really call yourself a fan if your only purpose is to mock, ridicule and insult the very team you supposedly support. That, to me, is asinine.
That is just my opinion and everyone is entitled to it. If after all this, you still don’t agree with me, just know this: I will ban your ass.
We aren't who we thought we were.
by SinCitySpur on Feb 19, 2010 1:08 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
Just thought I’d tell you I made this green. Please don’t ban my ass.
by silverandblack_davis on Feb 21, 2010 4:43 PM CST up reply actions
I remember when the Spurs were the ABA Dallas team and then moved to San Antonio. So yeah, I have been following them that long. What has really made me a fan of this team and other teams that I have followed from time to time throughout the years (dreaded statement coming) they play the right way, basketball is truly a team sport. You will always have that one player that is head and shoulders above his team mates, but when the concept of team is placed in front of everything else, that breeds success. That’s where the makeup of the best players and the rest of the team is so important. That’s when you have continued success, not just when you have the majority of the best players. That’s what draws people from all over to Spurs basketball. The lack of ego, team first, we are in this together for better or worse. That’s why i am a Spurs fan, and it was mentioned in this article and others that the entire organization deserves credit for this, and what makes the Spurs so rare.
i picked this team cuz their not cocky, their just the first team i fell in loved when i first watch it,well i didn’t first watch basketball until around 2005, and when i first saw san antonio i just fell in love with it. and i don’t know why, unlike other teams that i really got no feelings.like human love?it is.i love san antonio cuz all of their players is my favorite,no i just love the team as a whole,and i guess bcuz in 2005 they won an epic finals.i said their not cocky cuz its just simply all the good guys fell into our feet,and the fo’s are the "best’.
i guess that would be my explanation. cuz if you like a team bcuz of its players,then i’ll put okc my second fave and third chi as my top teams,see in chi i love rose and tyrus thomas,but i love thomas and rose as a players,wherever they are i would still love them, but i just love chicago.and im a wade fan and an oj mayo fan,stephen curry fan,monta ellis fan…or even an electric fan?LOL….anyways i love so many players,except lebron.and i even love dirk,just a curse cuz his in the mavs.
and so like okc,im a die hard durant fan,that’s why i guess,plus their for the future.
but san antonio,man even if where 30th in the league after post duncan,its fine we got great scouts and fo’s so after 3 yrs of post duncan,we’ll be back on track,or even just after post duncan era,we can still be top5 or top 10.hopefully.
but right now we got the potential and so i guess fans have the right to doubt,but when everybody is gelled lookout finals ’10!
Great post swgeek.
I have been a Spurs fan since The Admiral’s arrival. I was very young then and was completely amazed at how he worked as a player. As I grew older and learned more about basketball and the NBA, I began to admire the Spurs’ way of dealing with things. I like the attitude and the overall character of the organization. I like how simple things and complicated ones were intertwined to form a unique system. I know that the season isn’t turning out the way we expected it to be. We were all pumped up during the pre-season and started to think of a possible Finals appearance. The Spurs, however, have not been consistent and is far from being dominant. Along with them, we get frustrated with every loss. And despite all the rants and whines, and all the “let’s blame Pop, RJ, Bonner and God knows who”, I still believe in the this team. It is tough to see them landing where they are right now, but I still believe they can pull through and have a decent run. It might seem that the world’s casting a shadow upon us, making everything dull and dark, but I still see that silver lining. And that’s enough for me to hold on to.
just having fun...
by day_late_friend on Feb 22, 2010 12:55 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I like your thinking, dlf – especially this: "Along with them, we get frustrated with every loss. " I find myself more sad than mad, cuz I know mySpurs want to do better…even those we rant about on PtR. As for “the season isn’t turning out the way we expected”, it’s said that those who don’t expect anything don’t get disappointed…at least we root for a team that’s given us many reasons to expect more. Things just seem so negative right now and I wish there was a way to give us all (including the team) hope for that run. So, call me Pollyanna, but I’ll echo your “I BELIEVE!”"
Honestly. You kids today, with your hippity-hop music and your Twiddle. - Lauri
Well said, Pollyanna.
The intanglibles are with us tonite…its just those dang tangibles lke making shots and playing defense - bones
Yer velcro.
The intanglibles are with us tonite…its just those dang tangibles lke making shots and playing defense - bones
Wow, you are an optimistic one :-). To be honest, though I still love the team and will watch them play as much as possible, I don’t expect a decent run this year. Too many gambles that did not pay off, players that are not panning out, key players with nagging injuries. Some mistakes, some bad luck, and a definate lack of the normal chemistry and team spirit.
However, that will not stop me from enjoying the games and supporting the team. I would love for them to win another championship, but that is not required me for to enjoy the game.
No, your OK, irregardless of which lady you appeal to.
Fire Pop from the Spurs! Fire Bonner from basketball! Fire your mother from child-rearing!
There are so many things wrong with that sentence in both structure and substance, I don’t know where to begin.
Hilariously maladjusted. But for all the right reasons.
To Tim C.: You lose credibility if you butcher the king’s English. Your sentence should correctly read: “No, you’re OK, regardless of which lady you appeal to.” ‘Irregardless’ is completely non-standard. Nothing personal, man, but let’s try and upgrade our
discourse, just as our team needs to be upgraded with some new leadership.
You haven’t been around here long, so you get a free pass, but…
That was sarcasm. Q hates it when people make those 2 mistakes, and I was deliberately trying to razz her.
Fire Pop from the Spurs! Fire Bonner from basketball! Fire your mother from child-rearing!
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- DBG
Not to nitpick, but it should actually read “No, you’re OK, regardless to which lady you appeal.” (sentences shouldn’t end w/ prepositions;)
Honestly. You kids today, with your hippity-hop music and your Twiddle. - Lauri
sentences shouldn’t end w/ prepositions
Winston Churchill pointed out the fallacy of that “rule” when, after an editor had clumsily rearranged one of Churchill’s sentences, he replied with the snappy:
This is the sort of bloody nonsense up with which I will not put.
There are times when it’s better to leave the sentence (and preposition) where it is, and move along.
Rest the Croissant!
I think English isn’t his first language. I hate those foreigners.
Bone breaking? -340
Dunkin' Cheerleaders
Man, is it that obvious?
Fire Pop from the Spurs! Fire Bonner from basketball! Fire your mother from child-rearing!
I hear there are meters for that sort of thing.
Fire Pop from the Spurs! Fire Bonner from basketball! Fire your mother from child-rearing!
I had been reading this site for close to 2 years now and a relatively new member. Oh yes, i"m quiet most of the times. Even though I’m in the blog during game times, I don’t join the party, consider me as a shy guy in the sports bar having a beer and pumping the fist quietly without making much noise…I’m that.
I love my spurs for the same reason that sw has posted here. I’m not from US(but I live here now), I’m from India and I watched basketball only since last 10 years. Of all teams, Spurs appeal to me because of the character they display. Like most here, even I’m disappointed, to say the least, watching the spurs this season and I have limited expectations or should I say revised expectations of the team now.
I probably have no right to say this, because I don’t post much here, just read. But, I’m saying this nevertheless, reading different opinions is good, but the following things are worth preserving
1. civility
2. avoiding redundancy
3. banning people talking of trading manu (ofcourse I’m kidding, please dont ban me)
I have no idea what I have blabbered here, I dont care proof reading because I’m drunk. Please dont ban me for drinking and posting.
don’t worry man…. I’m riding a dxm wave at the moment…
GTFOML!
by the little o on Feb 24, 2010 2:43 AM CST up reply actions
oh, one day earlier tlo, you’re so much cooler than me.
GTFOML!
by the little o on Feb 25, 2010 2:22 AM CST up reply actions
Heman, you’re safe here.
If drinking and posting were grounds for banning, TLO wouldn’t have made it through his first week as a PtR member.
Rest the Croissant!
Neither would jakob. In fact, it would be a quiet, quiet blog.
Hilariously maladjusted. But for all the right reasons.
What, are you implying there are dead drunks in my closet or something? Because there are totally not.
Hilariously maladjusted. But for all the right reasons.
First of all, love your list, Heman.
Second of all, a thread about the drunks of PtR, and I’m not listed anywhere? I’m no longer the biggest lush on the site.
Your lush star has faded.
Don’t know whether to congratulate you, or offer my condolences.
Rest the Croissant!
Nah, you are still the lushiest star of them all Cap. You are like Timmeh – we just take you for granted now. The other drunks are like Blair and Hill – we are all excited about the new blood and forget how good the centerpiece is.
by swgeek on Feb 25, 2010 11:16 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
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