Game #32 Recap: Gary Neal, Tim Duncan power league-best Spurs past rival Mavericks, 99-93
Missing injured star forward Dirk Nowitzki, the Dallas Mavericks' supporting cast came out to prove that they can win without him. Despite gallant efforts from Caron Butler (30 points) and savvy veteran point guard Jason Kidd (12 points, 13 assists, 10 rebounds), the Mavs couldn't overcome the San Antonio Spurs' depth, falling to the league-leading Spurs, 99-93. Gary Neal personified the Spurs reserves' fearless resolve, pumping in a team-best 21 points focused on 5-of-8 shooting from beyond the arc, while Tim Duncan effectively challenged the vaunted Dallas zone and anchored the Spurs' own defense, scoring 17 points and pulling down 11 rebounds.
It's New Year's Eve where I'm coming from, so I'll make this quick like a 4-panel Rage comic. Watch out for the fireworks when you jump.
So, another year has passed, and instead of thinking about New Year's resolutions (which everyone probably breaks 95 percent of the time), I've been thinking about stuff I'm thankful for.
One of them is that I finally realized in 2010 what a useless idiot this one author of a blog is, which finally made me stop following him sometime around September. Don't worry folks, it's not PtR-related. I began following him for lack of good sources about my alma mater's college basketball team, and on the outset, I liked his style. He was a pretty old alumni and always used memories of the team's glorious past to begin his game recaps-slash-narratives.
But after awhile, this style wore out on me. I just got tired of always reading multiple paragraphs about players from the 60s, 70s and 80s before I got to the real stuff about the current team. I know I should exhibit more respect for the past, yada yada yada, but when you always read about "the good 'ol days" every_single_freakin'_time, it just gets old. Pun intended, yes.
And then when I get to the part where he starts talking about the team, he often comes across as an arrogant bastard who never misses a chance to toot his own horn -- "I talked to Player X before the game and told him to relax and focus on this and that... and you know what? I was right. I'm so good at this" or something to that effect. What the hell? How about writing about THE game, mister? No star for you!
The last straw came when he posted something saying how he hated the Heat, and how surprised he was about the San Antonio Sterns. Really? The San Antonio Sterns? I wrote on his shoutbox one time he said that the Spurs were boring, and put him in his place. But I guess you can't trust a guy who writes about basketball but names football, baseball and hockey as his top 3 favorite sports. Now, that makes a loooot of sense. Anyway, good riddance. If you ever talk about the Spurs badly again, I'm sending you an email a la Spursfansteve-to-Bill Simmons.
---end of last rant for 2010---
What about this game, eh? I think Pop said it best during the post-game:
"We don’t take too much out of the win... We didn’t show very much. We didn’t improve as a team, that’s for sure."
A lot of Pounders said on the thread that they just wanted to take a win, no matter if it was close or a blowout or in some other shape or form. I agree. At the end of the day, it's another W in the win-loss column. It helps that it puts us another full game ahead of the Mavericks (3.5 games total now) and creates some much needed separation between them not only in the division standings but also in the race for the best record in the NBA along with that helpful number 1 seed in the playoffs. Talking about the playoffs already in December... sheesh, look at this guy!
The game was a classic case of "team loses star player, gets told by the coach and media that everyone else needs to step up, they do, and win", except for that last part. Exhibit A -- 2009/2010 season, it was the 7th game and a TP-less, TD-less team with an out-of-shape Manu coming off the bench wallops a healthy Mavs unit behind 29 points from... you'll never guess - Richard Jefferson a.k.a. RJ 1.0. Even the corpse of Bogans chipped in 13 points (3 3PTs).
Of course the Mavs won't be able to play this way game in and game out (Butler scoring 30 every night? Brian "The Janitor" Cardinal going 3-3 from three land? You make me larf), but it was one of those games when the supporting guys were all pumped up while the opposing team was more like "meh... what is this game? We feel insulted by the lack of stars... hence we are going to coast". It's a perfect recipe for a tarp game, and the Spurs almost fell for it except that this year's Spurs have too many weapons to let this one slip.
The Spurs could've actually put it away early, racing to a 16-point lead in the second quarter. Tony and Hill pushed the pace almost every single possession, and when the team set up at half court, Gary Neal was en fuego from the outside. It was also a good thing that Manu was shooting well in this game (4-8 3PT FGs), because his slashing abilities have basically gone to the dumps with him feeling under the weather.
And then strange things happened. Dallas went to its zone defense, and Parker didn't know how to handle it. He overpenetrated when he should've passed, turned the ball over trying to catch shooters on the wings which were covered anyway, and was forced to shoot long twos when the clock wound down. Bonner was way off on his threes (but he did have that one spectacular follow-up SLAM of a TP miss... whoa), and Blair was rendered useless by the long arms of Tyson Chandler. Ball movement also went south.
After starting the game 6 of 7 on threes, the Spurs kept firing blanks against the zone, which basically dares the opponent to shoot from outside. The cold shooting didn't help the Spurs' case for most of the night, but thankfully Gary Neal was there to punish the open outside shots that the zone gave up.
When the Mavs threatened to take the lead or tie the ball game up, our rock, Tim Duncan, was there to keep the ship steady. He started out sour in the low post, but once the rhythm guy got going, not even Chandler could stop him. Timmy, with ample support from Dice, also exploited the zone's weakness of giving up a lot of offensive rebounds (7-4 edge), and we were able to dominate the rebounding department, 50-35 against two seven footers, this even without Blair's help. The other guys, particularly our guards -- Manu with 8 boards, TP and Hill with 6, Neal with 5 -- picked up the slack and didn't let the Mavs get a slew of second chances.
The stretch towards the close of the 3rd spanning the middle of the 4th was when the Spurs finally started to figure out how to attack the zone and reassert their dominance. The Mavs got to their closest at 62-63, but a short spurt where Hill scored on a jumper, a Tony drive, RJ dunk off a broken outlet pass (for his first points!), and a Dice tough lay-up off a Manu assist closed the quarter with the Spurs up by seven, 71-64. From there, the team was able to hold off Dallas at arm's length for the rest of the game, punctuated by Neal's and RJ's back-to-back threes that put the Spurs up by double digits. Terry would make a couple of late threes to make the score more respectable, but at that point the Spurs were already out of danger. Game over, season series tied now at 1-1.
So yes, it's such a weird game in more ways than one. I'm quite sure that The Jet won't shoot that crappily for an entire series (although it still is possible), and Butler won't be able to jack up 21 shots with Dirk back in the flow. Also, how bad is Ian Mahinmi? Alexis Ajinca's younger than him, and he's already ahead of Yawn in the depth chart. You know who's worse? Brendan Haywood -- and his baaad contract. Dude can't even get some minutes in this game when Hill was toying with Ajinca around the rim! He's that awful.
What can we take from this game aside from the W, the Nailgun being The Real Deal, Timmy not really being that old, and Manu having the awesomest bald spot in the entire universe? Hardly any, actually. We already know that the Spurs are ridiculously deep, guard-wise -- 33 (79 percent) of our 42 bench points came from our guards, namely Hill and Neal, and shoot too many threes (28 attempts, 11 makes for 39 percent - right there with the team's 40 percent average).
Well for starters, we could do better against the zone -- maybe run some sets that will make the Mavs think twice about using it against us for long stretches. The matchup zone, a hybrid of zone and man-to-man defense and something which Boston also employs, is a lot more difficult to deal with, but I believe we have the right amount of speedy guards and big time shooters to handle it. Defensively, we let Kidd have his way in the early going as he posted up our guards, but then Carlisle didn't call that number too often. Hill, though, was great again on D, particularly in pestering Terry into a 3-16 shooting night.
Offense-wise, it still feels like the same Mavs team to me, except now they have Chandler to catch lobs and throw down oops with a fury. Their defense has improved, but we'll see how they can carry it as the season progresses and teams figure out more ways to exploit that zone. Pop, especially, hasn't shown all his cards on how to bust holes in it, and I have full confidence that our offensive firepower can carry out the plan. All other things considered, SA and DAL are still pretty much familiar with each other's schemes and workings.
About the Spurs' defense, we definitely had some good moments (RJ played well on D for stretches, even though his shot is still M.I.A.), but if Dirk was there and Terry had a good shooting night, tonight's stand wouldn't have been enough. Too many points to wonder and debate about, but we still have 50 long games to go -- a lot of things can still happen.
But in the spirit of giving thanks for the year that was, I'm just thankful that we had two months of to-die-for winning basketball, and that everyone on the roster is still very much healthy and intact, save for a few blips with George. Hopefully these things will still hold up as the season progresses, win another title, and I'll be a happy camper for the rest of 2011. Too early to be satisfied with the year that's just started, maybe? Probably, but I want that title so bad. So. Bad.
Your Three Stars
3 -- Antonio McDyess - 7 points (3-3 FGs), 5 rebounds (2 off), 2 assists, 2 blocks. The Invisible Mr. McDyess decided to show up for this game, and he made an impact. He was effective subbing in for Duncan, and was active on both ends. Just look at that game-high plus-minus of +21!
2 -- Gary Neal - 21 points (5-8 3FGs), 5 rebounds, +/- of +17. He got the TNT interview, and some props from the Czar. I'm not worried that defenses will key in on Zod... see the way he shot that three-ball in front of The Jet's mug? Priceless.
1 -- Tim Duncan - 17 points, 11 rebounds (2 off), 2 assists, 2 TOs. The Big Fella held the team together when it ran around like headless chickens. If not for his steady play during that Mavs comeback, the Spurs would've wilted. Forget Charles and his BS. Rest assured, you are very much appreciated in this webspace, Mr. Duncan, and we know what you're capable of.
In the spirit of the holidays and the new year that beckons (or has already arrived for me and a few others), here is my last attempt at a meme comic. Happy New Year!
Up Next: Kevin Durant and the Oklahoma City Thunder come to the AT&T for a New Year's Day showdown. We've beaten them 3? or 4? straight times, and I'm fairly confident we can handle the young Thunder if the Spurs continue to play their game. By the way, I'm still waiting for that DeJuan Blair 20-20 this season.
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fuckin-A, sbd… this is your best recap and I’m not biased because you know I love memes.
OK maybe I am.
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 31, 2010 11:41 AM CST reply actions
Heh… my first ever attempts at this Rage comic. I miss Hipuks’ versions though.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Dec 31, 2010 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
My rage comics were getting less and less funnier as time went on. I had to quite while I was ahead.
You have a talent for the forever alone meme though. I don’t meant that as an insult on your social skills.
I did a lot of soul searching. I didn't find anything.
Seeing that you have “less and less funnier” right next to “I had to quite while I was ahead” requires that I ask —
Hipuks, are you Lexicon-baiting me?
I live to digress
Tony is trying out for the sequel to Black Swan, apparently. Rec’d for the memes alone… not that the rest of the post didn’t warrant it.
Free Tiago Splitter!
Ah darn it… knew there had to be a better caption for that. Thanks, Tim.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Dec 31, 2010 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
can't forget Matty, if you did you'd feel gyped
like your sandwich ain't a sandwich without Miracle Whip
by Iullaby on Dec 31, 2010 12:46 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
This may be before your time, but the best reference for this pic should actually be:
I miss your smell. I miss your musk.
For those who’d like to know the back story as to why I feel this way, please refer to the PtR Quotes page here.
I live to digress
Great stuff sbd. Too great, actually, makes me feel a little inadequate.
Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.
the title basic sums it up for me…
neal had another awesome game and when we slowed it down timmy could get it done. this wasn’t a great win by any stretch but i liked seeing that they could slow it down and timmy come through 3 times in a row. we don’t need it most nights but when we do he can still do it.
after that i liked our defense (although Dallas even with dirk this season has been not so good) and i like that our offense generates so many open looks. jefferson sticks out but wasn’t the only one who got alot of open looks that just wouldn’t fall and usually do. al season manu and jr have found ways to contribute if they are not scoring and last night was no different.
not a great win but ill take it especially against a division rival and especially against dallas
Very nice recap SBD. Gotta love these types of games. I know Dirk was out, and I think that obviously helped us, but a win against a solid division team is great. I agree that we need to improve upon our offense against the zone. I’d also like to see an improvement against the 3-point shot.
I’ll be interested to see how things go when Dirk is back. I think Pop has some ideas on how to get the ball out of his hands (i.e. getting up in his grill and coming with a late double after he puts the ball on the floor). Should be interesting to see how the defense will be when they are fully healthy.
Some nice things came out of this game. 1. Timmy can still bring it. The conventional wisdom is that Chandler was the big addition in the off-season for the D he brings that was missing. TD showed he could score at will against him. 2. While RJ’s shot was crap, he was the only guy who was able to contain Butler. Most of Butler’s points were against other defenders. That will serve us well if we face the Mavs in the playoffs. 3. George was able to give Terry fits (just as he and Manu did Kobe). The Mavs cannot win without significant offensive contribution from Terry. 4. Gary Neal is indeed the real deal. His shot is as pretty as Ray Allen’s. Somehow I don’t think he’ll fade like Roger Mason did.
Butler’s size is a little too much for Hill. Hill is more suited for Kidd and Terry. Luckily, Spurs have Anderson so RJ/Anderson should be suitable. Neal is too short and should focus on Terry once Anderson is back and 2nd unit is mostly in.
It’s nice to see the Spurs have the tools to give Terry issues just like last post season.
Neal is a scorer. Mason is a poor rhythm shooter. I think the differences are already displayed.
Quick observations: anyone else notice how calm and cold-blooded bad ass Manu looked last night? His sinus cold, though impacting his breathing and taking away his usual Tasmanian Devil energy, seemed to bring about a stealth calm. That, combined with the gum chewing, made him look even cooler than usual.
How about Mr. Duncan going 7/7 at the FT line?
Perhaps it’s because they play so often, or just random accidents that happen over an 82-game spread, but the Spurs-Mavs games rarely have all the star players in uniform, with the Spurs the team usually missing a key player. S&BD – I’m glad you mentioned the Spurs win last season when both Timmy and Tony did not play. It’s happened a few times the past three seasons:
2009-10
- 94-99 (OT) Spurs lose in Dallas when TP does not play and Manu plays only seven minutes.
- 89-96 Spurs lose in Dallas as Manu and TD do not play.
2008-09
- 93-76 Spurs win in SA without TD and Manu.
- 102-107 Spurs lose in Dallas without Manu.
- Five playoff games without Manu.
2007-08
- 97-95 Spurs win in SA without TD.
Spurs have dealt with this much more often in this rivalry, without the sympathy cards received by the Mavs last night. Excellent divisional road win by our guys. Happy New year to all! GSG!!
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
Nahce recap, as usual.
In other news, Boston dropped one at home to the Hornets. San Antonio continues to inch away from the competition in the race for homecourt throughout….
[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]
"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said
and Blair was rendered useless by the long arms of Tyson Chandler.
and we were able to dominate the rebounding department, 50-35 against two seven footers, this even without Blair’s help. The other guys, particularly our guards — Manu with 8 boards, TP and Hill with 6, Neal with 5 — picked up the slack and didn’t let the Mavs get a slew of second chances.
Blair Went up against Cardinal a lot early on, and took himself out of the game with two fairly quick fouls (one of them being his signature loose ball foul).
This is the problem with Blair. I think he’s best served coming off the bench and bringing in the energy. Even against LA, his best work came in the season half. He seems to be full of energy that it wouldn’t matter if he came off the bench.
I’m quite sure that The Jet won’t shoot that crappily for an entire series (although it still is possible)
Spurs did a good job last post season in taking him out of the series. Hill (when he wasn’t giving Kidd problems) helped do that last year too.
About the Spurs’ defense, we definitely had some good moments (RJ played well on D for stretches, even though his shot is still M.I.A.),
RJ looked completely different after getting pulled back and finally coming back in. Was still sloppy, but it looked like getting pulled motivated him finally. And then he got that easy bucket which seemed to fix things. Overall, he’s having a solid December, even though he is slumping in some of his recent games, shooting wise.
Gary Neal – 21 points (5-8 3FGs), 5 rebounds, +/- of +17. He got the TNT interview, and some props from the Czar. I’m not worried that defenses will key in on Zod… see the way he shot that three-ball in front of The Jet’s mug? Priceless.
Now imagine the 2nd unit with Neal and Anderson in the lineup. How do you zone on that. You figure that Manu/Hill (two other shooters) or Parker will be in. That’s gotta be tough to play D on.
Blair’s best may have come in the second half, but he wasnt bad in the first. Plus, his best STILL came against Pau/Bynum/Odom- widely regarded as the best or second best front court in the league. I dont understand the argument about moving Blair to the bench. At worst, he’s not a positive force, but he’s rarely been a negative.
In all honesty, I dont think theres a better option on the bench right now and I still dont think we need anything better for the playoffs. Consistency from Blair, which will ONLY come from playing time with and against starters, is just as if not more important than anything we get from Splitter this year.
And I know I’m assuming that the argument is to start Splitter instead of Bonner/McDyess, but I feel thats a pretty safe assumption. Starting McDyess would be foolish, at least this early in the season, and I’m pretty sure I’m the only person on PtR who’s ever argued for starting Bonner.
Bonner with the nice box out!
by SpursfanSteve on Dec 31, 2010 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
Blair basically rotates back in like he’s coming off the bench. Bonner comes in early and then McDyess will come in (when it isn’t one of his nights off).
I think Blair would see more consistent success going up against more of the bench units. There’s more room for error with 2nd units as oppose to the starting units.
If the goal is to get Tiago to eventually start, they might as well start adjusting the lineup to meet the eventual rotational pattern. Maybe it means Dice starting if they don’t want to put Tiago up there yet. Got to find some time for Tiago though.
Right. He’s already shown he can have consistent success against other bench units. If we keep him on the bench now, its entirely possible thats all he ever amounts to. We have to give him room to grow. I dont understand why Splitter, a first year Spur (yeah I know he was drafted eons ago), is so much more dear to everyone else than Blair, who is in his second year with the team and spent his entire rookie year busting his ass trying to keep a rotation spot. He outplayed Yawn. He outplayed Haislip and the Gist. He outplayed everyone enough that Pop sat Duncan a couple nights and made Blair one of the top options in the offense (or has everyone forgotten BlairNobili?)
He doesnt block many shots. He gets steals. He rebounds. He hustles. He makes all the plays we can expect a kid his age to make- except he makes very few bad ones. He’s practically a saint off the court.
Guess what? Splitter isnt that much better of a shot blocker. He draws charges. He’s not as talented offensively, and he’s not near as good of a rebounder. He is 7’, but he’s not big enough to handle NBA bigs yet. And theres no way he can put on that kind of weight during the season.
Both are excellent passers. Both are foul prone. The difference between the two comes down to approximately 6 inches. And knowledge of the Spurs system- knowledge even a basketball genius like Splitter isnt going to fully understand this year anyway, because he chose to play international ball and got hurt. Its not his fault, and I dont hate him for it. What I do hate is people hating on Blair for crappy reasons like being 6’6. He’s far from a defensive liability. He’s a solid fourth/fifth option on offense at worst, which is all the starting unit needs.
So tell me, again, why we’ve GOT to do anything for Tiago this year? Why is Tiago starting a goal for this year? Why does he give us a better shot at a championship on the starting unit? And please, for the love of FSM, say something other than “Because he’s a legit 7’ and we need that length.” Because thats approximately horseshit. Until he bulks up, that length doesnt mean squat against the Lakers, or any other team with a big, strong 4/5 combo (Orlando, Memphis, and Boston come to mind).
I’m not against Splitter…I just haven’t seen any evidence whatsoever that he’s earned a spot over Blair. I don’t see how his potential contributions for this year are bigger than Blair’s. A year or two down the road, when he’s had a training camp and more time…sure. I’ll buy that. But for this year, I don’t. He’s not only adjusting to the NBA, but to the Spurs.Both of those are huge transitions. Getting an extra 5-10 minutes of court time a night isnt going to solve his size deficiency any more than they will Blair’s. The difference is Blair is much closer to understanding our system, to having impeccable chemistry with Tim, Tony, and Manu. Blair doesnt need to consistently have 17/15 nights. If we get anything close to 12/10/2(steals)/2 (assists) from our fifth starter on a nightly basis, and a couple fewer fouls, we’re in perfect shape.
Bonner with the nice box out!
by SpursfanSteve on Jan 1, 2011 4:32 AM CST up reply actions 6 recs
I may turn this into a fan post. Just fair warning. I dont want everyone to think I’m turning into a Blair loving version of Ghosttown, hijacking threads and being obnoxious and all.
Bonner with the nice box out!
by SpursfanSteve on Jan 1, 2011 4:35 AM CST up reply actions
i’m workin on it boss.
Bonner with the nice box out!
by SpursfanSteve on Jan 3, 2011 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
“it is finished”
Bonner with the nice box out!
by SpursfanSteve on Jan 4, 2011 12:11 AM CST up reply actions
I wonder how Ghosttown is doing. Specially with the record and Tony resigning.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Jan 4, 2011 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
I don’t think of Blair’s liabilities in terms of shot blocking, but I do think of it in terms of who he’s standing next to. Duncan’s help defense is not the same as it was a few years ago. It puts the spotlight on Duncan even more to get it done perfectly when Blair loses his man. It can result in foul trouble.
Spurs are contending while re-building, but the winning has to happen now. You want to work with the guys to build up their abilities, but Blair is still raw. He’ll see much more improvement when he has a chance to work on his game in better minutes. If the goal is to get his offensive game improved, he’ll only get to see time to work on that when the units play more to his favor. In the starting 5, his growth can become limited (except for defensive growth) as the offense will run mostly through th e other players.
He does stuff that helps the team, but at the moment, he is an energy guy (sorta like a Rose or even Manu, but bulkier). However, he still needs to learn to box out on his rebounding. He does well for himself, but he’ll help much more when he uses his body to force the ball to his teammates.
The reason why the Spurs have had bad first quarters (in terms of opponent scoring), has often times been a result of Blair being the weakest link there. He’s improved, but there are games where he appears and then disappears (like in the recent Dallas game).
His strong games of recent time have screamed "energy guy" when things need to pick up. He probably needs one or two more summers (I mean he is a senior in college in terms of where he is age wise) to round out his raw potential. This year, he’s going to be that "energy guy" who can do more than Malik, but his best asset right now, are those abilities. And they are very underrated. Spurs have always had guys like this in their championship years.
I don’t hate Blair for his size. He’s one of my favorite players on the Spurs, but I have high expectations, as I do with Hill. I’ll be critical of Hill even though he’s one of my favorite players as well. His defense has improved, but he’s still a long way out. He uses his hands and positioning fairly well, but his defensive liabilities is mostly contextual. He’ll do well against a OKC, but have issues in a Orlando game. I think Blair’s biggest weakness on defense, is his boxing out. He’s an exceptional rebounder, but when he’s outsized/out ahtleticisized (not a word), he needs to focus on making sure he can get the ball to a Duncan/RJ/Manu or other Spur who goes to the boards. That’ll help shore up some of the defensive liability he contains. Bonner’s actually done a great job of this, and that is one reason Pop can stay with Bonner for a while, because he tries to position himself for others to get the ball.
I never thought Splitter was a shot blocker. However, he gives the Spurs size up front to contend with the bigger teams. He already has a fairly polished skill set. He’s raw in the Spurs skill set, but he has the abilities to help bring back the twin towers approach.
They need Splitter though. The Lakers game, although a big game was still very little of what the Lakers can bring. The Spurs approach to strengthen their backcourt (Lakers weakness), is the way to go. However, when Bynum is more in rhythm and Gasol is back (from being overplayed), Spurs will need all the size up front that they can get.
Spurs wouldn’t have tried so hard to make sure Splitter was a Spur if they didn’t realize they would need help. I don’t expect Splitter to be averaging anywhere near a double double or anything. However, his development will be a part of why the Spurs win or don’t win. Blair will be important too, but he can’t further develop his size. Splitter has something the Spurs have not had in a while. They would be dumb not to further develop this. Spurs have to be multi-dimensional and develop multiple guys. Otherwise they would fail.
Honestly, Dice is the best guy to line up next to Duncan. Obviously age is the because limiting factor at the moment. However, in the post season, he’ll either be the guy next to Duncan or the next big man who comes in for Duncan and plays big minutes.
by grego21 on Jan 2, 2011 12:28 AM CST up reply actions 5 recs
And this is a really good response.
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
I’m a day late on reading this, but there’s a lot of good stuff to think about here. The way I see it, Duncan and McDyess are veteran enough that they can do fine whether you give them a lot of minutes, or just a few. It’s going to affect how rested or sharp they are, but it’s not going to bother their psyche or confidence. On the other hand, both Splitter and Blair are very rough around the edges, and it must be a tough balancing act using games to develop them. How many minutes, how many consecutive minutes, how many watching closely and taking mental notes minutes? If the Spurs were a young, up-and-coming team like the Clippers or the Thunder, it would probably be a no-brainer to play them both, a lot. But they are trying to develop these guys on the fly while building towards making a run at a title. It’s a lot of things to juggle at once. They are going to have yet another ball in the air when Anderson gets healthy. I am sure Pop and the staff have a long term plan on this. How successful that plan is implemented can’t be evaluated at this stage.
All these GIFs are breaking my browser.
I was worried about Tiagos playing time, until recently. The team’s success has kind of made me forget about that. (I’m not going to get involved in a Splitter vs. Blair discussion.)
But what I do know is (from what I have seen) Tiago has failed to capitalize alot of the time on the offensive end. He hasn’t finished alot of those point blank shots underneath the basket he seems to frequently get, with authority or effectiveness the way he should be. As a result, he gets blocked, misses the shot or gets fouled. To compound things, he’s a bad free throw shooter and imo, this is not acceptable for a euroleague MVP who is known for good hands and footwork, unlike someone who relies purely on size (like Shaq).
I think Pop sees alot of this and it is one of the main reasons Tiaggo is seeing so little time.
[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]
"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said
Whats worse, is Tiagos free throw percentage has actually dropped from 65.5% in November, to 56% in December. Lets hope this changes in 2011.
[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]
"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said
19-29 (November) vs. 14-25 (December). I wouldn’t say his free throw shooting is that worrisome. He was never a good free throw shooter. His shot mechanics aren’t that good, although I read that he was working on it.
Generally that’s the case where you suffer at the beginning (see Parker) only to see improvement later.
Honestly, I’m more worried about Manu’s struggles this month than the slight fluctuations that Tiago has.
This is one thing i did notice. He’s been missing some easy shots. Although this is stuff that Blair was doing earlier in the season and did last season. I think Tiago is overthinking/rushing things just because his play time is so sporadic.
I can’t say that Pop and the coaching staff are wrong for limiting his time. It could be argued either way. Then there are a multitude of factors like missing training camp and preseason, not to mention summer ball.
I think Pop’s had a hard time playing him because Spurs have not been consistent in their wins. Although they are starting to get better at managing the teams now so Tiago should be able to find pockets to play.
Tiago’s shooting % from OKC was definitely affected by Ibaka. He got in the way of just about every shot any Spur took. My gosh, I wish he was a Spur.
Tiago should see play time against New York and/or Boston. I figure the goal would be to have Dice sit out the first game and Duncan play 28 minutes so Tiago/Blair/Bonner should all see big minutes. Oh and some small ball with RJ at the 4.
Sir Chewbacca wsa giving everyone fits. Blair’s problem last year was a lack of touch. Tiago has touch, but he’s not aggressive enough. That can be fixed this season. When faced with an athletic shot blocker, he needs to use his variety of post moves (up and under, ball fakes, etc.) However, Tiago also needs to get stronger, and that can only be addressed in the offseason.
With all due respect, gentlemen, we're not as crazy as she is.

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