Game #32 Preview: Spurs @ Mavericks
by CapHill on Dec 30, 2010 8:01 AM CST
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PrintThe Spurs had a big win against the Lakers on Tuesday. Let's start another win streak tonight against our Texas rivals, the Cubans.
Tonight's contest is on TNT, so I'm sure we'll get a dose of Sir Charles once again proclaiming the Mavs as the best team in Texas. Let's hope we get a repeat of the following after the game.
Now for the preview:
 San Antonio Spurs @ Dallas Mavericks Where: American Airlines Center When: 12/30/2010, 8:30PM Spurs Time - Timezone Converter Watch: FSSW, TNT
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PG: Tony needs to dominate Kidd like he dominated Fisher. The Mavs will pack the paint, so The Wee Frenchman will need to drive and dish to the plethora of Spurs' shooters. Kidd is shooting 3-pointers fairly well this year, so Tony needs to force him to shoot long 2s.
SG: A day of rest will probably pep up The Anomaly. He had a bad offensive game against the Lakers, but his defense on Kobe was stellar. Manu should bounce back. Stevenson's numbers have been so-so this season.
SF: Butler has fit in nicely at Dallas, providing some scoring punch. However, RJ has the better all-around game, fully exhibited in the Lakers' win. RAGE needs to concentrate on shutting down Butler on defense and continue his aggressive play at the rim.
PF: Dirk is still listed as day-to-day. He will be a tough matchup for Blair if he plays, even with a bum knee. DeBeast continued his offensive improvement against the Lakers, but will need to continue to show patience with Chandler patrolling the paint. If Dirk doesn't play, Marion should start in his place.
C: Timmeh had a really bad offensive game against the Lakers, but he wasn't needed. He played limutes and should be rested. Chandler has helped shore up both the Dallas defense and rebounding this year.
Bench
The Gnat and The Nutpuncher have always given the Spurs problems. If Dirk doesn't play, that shortens the bench for Carlisle and really limits the offense. George is back; the defense looks better. Neal and Bonner continue to shoot whenever open. Dice plays Dirk as well as anyone.
Coaching
Carlisle has gotten the Mavs to really play defense, while still maintaining a potent offense. Pop has been brillian this season in managing the roster and throwing wrinkles into game plans.
Intangibles
Dallas busted a 12-game win streak that last time the teams played and always plays tough against the Spurs. The Spurs are coming off a huge win and have been otstanding on the road.
Mojo
The Spurs are off to their best start in franchise history. The Mavs lost to Toronto, not good even without Dirk.
Prediction
I'm trusting that the Spurs won't have a letdown. Even if Dirk doesn't play, this game won't be easy.
Key(s) to the Game
Turnovers - The Mavericks are middle of the pack in turnover rate. The Spurs need to continue their thieving ways, in order to start the fast break and get easy points. The Mavericks defense can't stop what it can't catch.
Offensive Passing - The Mavericks all-around defense has no glaring holes, so Tony and Manu are going to have to penetrate the defense and then look to kick out to the shooters. Ball movement needs to be crisp to provide open looks.
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This game is replayed 8am on New Years day in Oz.
Please, oh please give me a reason to wake up to watch it, San Antonio.
(even if we lose but an escaped lion grabs Terry by the neck and takes him back to it’s lair)
…its being shown tomorrow live at 10:45 tomorrow as well though, so why bother with the replay and impending hangover?
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by sleep research facility on Dec 30, 2010 9:29 AM CST up reply actions
way to say “tomorrow” twice ya fool.
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by sleep research facility on Dec 30, 2010 9:30 AM CST up reply actions
ah damn, my condolences….
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by sleep research facility on Dec 30, 2010 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
(HAHA! please just while he is doing the airplane, the glossy creature is more vulnerable when low!!)
by spursfan_needs_counseling on Dec 30, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
Lovely work as always, Cap Hizzle.
I can’t help loving Charles because he’s just . . . Charles . . . but that aside—I cannot wait to hear the sh*t he’s going to take tonight for being so wrong about the Spurs. And you know he’s just going to dig the hole deeper. Should be fun.
It’s not just Charles who still can’t get it right, though. During the Spurs win over the Lakers I heard one of the NBA TV studio crew (it might have been Kevin McHale, sigh, or even, double sigh, C-Webb), marvel that the “older” Spurs were able to prevail over a “younger” team like the Lakers.
Dudes. Do your homework. You have fucking awesome jobs. You should at least do the minimum required to deserve them.
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
by Lauri on Dec 30, 2010 9:13 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Why did I use a demure asterisk in paragraph 2 but exercised no such decorum in paragraph 4? It’s a mystery.
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
Sometimes I say effing and then two sentences later I say fucking. That’s why I shouldn’t even try anymore and just say the bad words all the time.
I did a lot of soul searching. I didn't find anything.
rebel without a cause…
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by sleep research facility on Dec 30, 2010 9:30 AM CST up reply actions
the cause seems to be laziness.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Dec 30, 2010 6:34 PM CST up reply actions
haha
yeah i noticed that, just took it as “rising passion”…right?
by DunCro Lovechild on Dec 30, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions
let's keep it civil guys
just like all spurs fans. I know we are. GSG!!!
civil in terms of laughing hyena of course.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Dec 30, 2010 6:36 PM CST up reply actions
Great Oden’s Raven, who hasn’t seen Anchorman?
The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.
wow, did you just pull out a reference to the ancient Norse All-Father and tying him to some, young, beat up player who is one of the largest busts ever? Ironic, yet fitting. I wonder if Oden saw Valkyries right before his last injury……..
"I had an excellent game. It was just an excellent game. We are an excellent team. I had an excellent game." DeJuan Blair 12/29/10 SA 97 - LA 82
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Dec 30, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
Greg Oden’s career isn’t over yet, he can still be a serviceable big man. Look at Ilgauskas.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Dec 30, 2010 6:37 PM CST up reply actions
only time will tell….
"I had an excellent game. It was just an excellent game. We are an excellent team. I had an excellent game." DeJuan Blair 12/29/10 SA 97 - LA 82
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Dec 30, 2010 7:18 PM CST up reply actions
exactly, which is why it’s not fair to call him one of the biggest busts ever.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Dec 30, 2010 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
Nowhiney or not we must lower our turnovers from 17 the last time we played as you so faithfully pointed out Cap.
yes. it has potential.
Bonner with the nice box out!
by SpursfanSteve on Dec 30, 2010 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
wat’s the over/under that the ponies play zone D entire game?
by i luv this site on Dec 30, 2010 10:28 AM CST reply actions
I would love to get a 3,5 game edge on the MLP’s.
If we lose though, we’re only up 1,5 games. I’d say this game is more important than the Lakers game.
Let’s Do Dis Chit, Beaches!
"Sometimes the Spurs make you play ugly. That's just the way they are." - Gary Bender
by Bakkie009 on Dec 30, 2010 10:42 AM CST via mobile reply actions
yep, we could really use this one
"I had an excellent game. It was just an excellent game. We are an excellent team. I had an excellent game." DeJuan Blair 12/29/10 SA 97 - LA 82
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Dec 30, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
Hang close with the MLPs till the 4th and then crack down on their guards and double Dirk – forcing bad shots and TOs – then collect your $$$ at the bank! W fellas, let’s do this chit!
"I had an excellent game. It was just an excellent game. We are an excellent team. I had an excellent game." DeJuan Blair 12/29/10 SA 97 - LA 82
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
Mavs are a great passing team. If we bring a double team on Dirk, somebody needs to cut off his passing lanes as well, or we will get burned pretty badly.
Free Tiago Splitter!
naturally – force him into the TO – good follow up
"I had an excellent game. It was just an excellent game. We are an excellent team. I had an excellent game." DeJuan Blair 12/29/10 SA 97 - LA 82
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Dec 30, 2010 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
I thought that’s what the Spurs did in their last game against the Mavs.
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by day_late_friend on Dec 30, 2010 6:53 PM CST up reply actions
I’m hoping Dirk plays, so we can avoid Spursplaylikecrapwhentheopponentsbestplayerisoutitis.
Free Tiago Splitter!
I hear you, brother.
Unfortunately, even if he plays, a Spurs victory will bring on an outbreak of the dreaded SpursonlywonbecauseDirkwasnot100percent pox.
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
What is with this love fest the national media has with the Spurs?
They’re on TNT tonight? Again?
Not enough liquor in the cabinet to survive that.
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
btw, are you still in the AZ?
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
I think the love is actually aimed at the Mavericks. I guarantee there will not be a single moment of video of the Spurs owner, who will be sipping margaritas in a secluded skybox somewhere rather than throwing tantrums behind his teams bench. Makes for great TV…
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by quincyscott on Dec 30, 2010 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
…team’s…
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by quincyscott on Dec 30, 2010 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
the Spurs owner, who will be sipping margaritas
Dude, isn’t he a non-drinker? (like a recovering alcaholic or whatever?)
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
I believe you’re correct, olf. Nice to see you around. :)
by Ed (dfjmed) on Dec 30, 2010 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
Oops. No offense intended.
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by quincyscott on Dec 30, 2010 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
See, I didn’t know that about him. If it were Cuban, we would have already seen a tearful reality TV series about his recovery.
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by quincyscott on Dec 30, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You could always watch Office reruns. They are on no matter the time or place or dimension. Or you could carouse other team’s blogs and spend sweet ironic time commenting about how much you don’t want to have them in your life.
Or if you’re being sarcastic then I’m just a git.
Then you don’t have a good liquor cabinet.
With all due respect, gentlemen, we're not as crazy as she is.
Tony must dominate Fisher.
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 30, 2010 11:52 AM CST reply actions
Yes. Every night. No matter who we are playing.
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by quincyscott on Dec 30, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
Tony’s just mad because Fisher keeps beating him (in like April / June I mean, not December). I mean the last time the Spurs got past the Lakers Luke Walton, Kwame Brown and Smush Parker were starters.
Plus there’s all the rumors that Eva left him because she doesn’t want to be with a loser, right?
But this is a preview about the Mavs game – sorry Cap.
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
What was the deal with Fisher running cross court to confront Jefferson, and then walking away when Jefferson gave him some of it back? It was odd. Like, I’m turning the other cheek, after running full speed to offer it up.
Probably just general frustration manifesting itself in other ways. Tensions always seem to be high on that team and you cannot really take it out on the main guy instigating the tension (Kobe).
Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.
I guess he didn’t like Jefferson pushing him to the ground to “get open” on that break and decided to mention it to him?
But it’s not really Jefferson’s fault he got away with it. And both teams give and take their share.
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
I understand people get upset, especially older and slower people like myself.
I just thought it humorous that someone can be so enraged, running across the court, but when it’s back in his face he takes the “I’m a gentleman approach” and walks away tootsweet.
Who knows, wouldn’t surprise me if it was just an effort to energize the rest of his team or something.
It could have been just built up frustration or making a point to the refs – but he’s usually smarter, more controlled and calculated than that. He’s not really known for losing his poise.
Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it.
that’ll do richard. that’ll do.
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 30, 2010 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
+1
"I had an excellent game. It was just an excellent game. We are an excellent team. I had an excellent game." DeJuan Blair 12/29/10 SA 97 - LA 82
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Dec 30, 2010 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
The Mavs are playing great this season. I would definitely put them among the top three teams in the West. As much as people may be annoyed by Barkley’s claim that they are better than the Spurs, at this point it is hard to argue with him. They have played a tougher schedule, they have beaten San Antonio once, they have ended the streaks of several hot teams, they have so far played better defense than us, they have a lot of depth and playofff experience. There is a lot to like about them.
The Mavs who concern me the most are Chandler and Marion. Yes, we know all about Nowitzki and Terry. But Marion has a chance to be their Jefferson. He had a so-so year last year, and people may have prematurely written him off. It looks like he is playing much better in his second year as a Maverick, and that could mean a lot for them. Chandler is really fitting in well for them.
As much as I respect the Lakers, my feeling about their big men is that, aside from Bynum, they are soft. How many ridiculous lay-ups did Parker get the other night while Gasol and Odom stood around and watched? Those guys are highly skilled with the ball, but they are soft, as the Celtics demonstrated in the playoffs last season. I do not think that can be said about this version of the Mavericks. Nowitzki is still a big powder puff, but guys like Chandler, Butler, and Heywood are there to do all the physical work, allowing Dirk to be the seven foot shooting guard that he prefers to be. That is what concerns me most about them. I don’t think Parker will be able to break down their interior defense with impunity. I don’t think Jefferson will get ridunkulous ally oops. Those easy baskets will not be there. Hopefully we can get some easy baskets in transition, but in the half court things will be tougher than they were the other night against the Lakers. One of the things I want to see tonight is how Blair plays. I want to see that his play the other night wasn’t a fluke. If he can step up and give us a double double against the Mavericks front court, then I think this will give me a lot of confidence about what the Spurs are capable of this season.
All these GIFs are breaking my browser.
I hear what you’re saying but the Mavericks will always be the same team to me, the team that for all the potential they had and all the hype that was produced about them nonetheless FAILED to remotely meet expectations. Ever since 2006, their championship aspirations have been on the decline. Short of a Kobe Bryant to Dallas trade, this team will not win a championship for the foreseeable future and for that I am thankful.
I confess I haven’t watched any Mavericks game this season. Maybe I am wrong. Perhaps they have changed; just as Richard Jefferson has become adjusted to the Spurs system so too Butler and Heywood have adjusted to the Mavericks system. I will most certainly watch the team tonight. With or without Dirk, this Mavericks team will be display and I will watch intently. Know this though, this is the regular season and the Mavericks have always performed well during the regular season only to crash and burn in the play offs. Ever since the double whammy of 2006 and 2007 my belief that this damnable team can accomplish anything has thankfully gotten smaller.
In fact I would argue that the day they traded Devin Harris to the Nets for Jason Kidd was the day they effectively closed their championship window. Besides the Teutonic barbarian, Harris was the only clear advantage they had over the Spurs. He might suck now but when he was on the Mavericks he had Parker dominated game after game because of his speed curiously enough.
"Rip it and grip it!" -Kevin Costner
by The Augustus on Dec 30, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
Actually to make a long essay short, the fact that the Raptors beat the Mavericks in Dallas WITHOUT Dirk Nowitizki really tells where this team stands. As always, stopping Dallas is a matter of shutting down Dirk, which is exactly what McDyess, the unhailed warrior, did in last year’s play offs.
Dallas, thy team is forever doomed to the fate of mediocrity. Holding the Golden Trophy of Basketball Immortality is granted to teams only on a select basis; those who were given the opportunity, but nonetheless failed to grasp it once, will never be given the chance again. So it has been said, so shall it be written.
"Rip it and grip it!" -Kevin Costner
by The Augustus on Dec 30, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
unhailed warrior is correct. That was one of the best defensive performances I’ve seen in a playoff series. Dice was almost KG like, without everything there is to hate about KG of course.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Dec 30, 2010 6:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think that for years Cuban was way too quick to wheel and deal. My fear is that he finally may be learning his lesson.
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by quincyscott on Dec 30, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
Yep. My thoughts exactly. Spurs wheel and deal, but they try to keep the core intact and minimize the impact of changes. An offseason of continuity may have been what the Mavs needed.
Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.
Maybe that’s what they needed all along but Cuban was just too antsy. Case in point: Can you imagine the Mavs with Devin Harris now instead of Kidd? I don’t care what Terry or Butler are doing, Harris would be the second leading star in that team.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Dec 30, 2010 6:45 PM CST up reply actions
Hell, if we are imagining: can you imagine if Cuban had agreed to pay a few extra bugs to keep Nash instead of letting him walk?
Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.
Can you imagine if Cuban had just paid Wade about 15 million to blow the Finals away? What a dumbass, he has spent more money than that to try to get a title.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Dec 30, 2010 6:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I’d also like Tiago to get some playing time tonight, but I’m not crossing my fingers…
by slipstream21 on Dec 30, 2010 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
The thing about ending long winning streaks doesn’t impress me as much as others. Once a team hits ten wins, they are due to lose, even if from bad luck. When you’ve got a long streak and play a good team, the opponent will play better more often than not just for that one game. The bigger issue is playing well enough to defeat someone four times out of seven over a two week period.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
This just in: Dirk is out for tonight
"He's the ultimate zone buster." – Bill Land on Gary Neal
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Dec 30, 2010 1:15 PM CST reply actions
Well, I’ll take a +1 on the Mavs in the standings whenever I can get it this season. One of the reasons the Spurs wanted to get a better start was to give themselves a better chance in the playoffs. We need to take this series in case a tiebreaker is needed for seeding in April.
A win is a win—that’s true. I just hope the Spurs are up for it, because I think it will be a tough one.
I see no reason why this game should be a tough one. It might turn out to be a tough one, but then that will be on us. So far, the Spurs seem to lose against the Mavs only when Dirk has a great game, much like the game earlier this season and game 1 of the playoffs last year. Without Dirk, there is no reason why the Spurs shouldn’t beat the Mavs. If we lose, it’s on us.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Dec 30, 2010 6:48 PM CST up reply actions
You’re making too much sense, stop it.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Dec 30, 2010 7:16 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t recall the Spurs receiving a mulligan or sympathy when Manu missed the playoff series two seasons ago. Dirk or no Dirk, whip the Mavs. If the margin of victory is larger tonight, even better. We’ll still learn from this and be ready to beat the Dirk led Mavs in two weeks.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
I guess I have to start drinking early. Good thing I’m not working.
With all due respect, gentlemen, we're not as crazy as she is.
I knew it would be a cold day in hell when Dirk didn’t play against us, but I never expected this. No lie, we just had snow flurries here in Phoenix. Unbelievable.
Free Tiago Splitter!
by Tim C. on Dec 30, 2010 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
my gunkle lives near you, apparently.
yes, gunkle.
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 30, 2010 6:23 PM CST up reply actions
great unkle?
Bonner with the nice box out!
by SpursfanSteve on Dec 30, 2010 6:43 PM CST up reply actions
Gay Uncle. Not that theres anything wrong with that.
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 30, 2010 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
haha, didn’t think of that.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Dec 30, 2010 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
I would never want to be a gunkle… scratch that, I would love to be a gunkle, almost like a weird drunk uncle, but a greater one.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Dec 30, 2010 6:51 PM CST up reply actions
does this mean that if you were working, you would start the drinking later?
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Dec 30, 2010 6:49 PM CST up reply actions
my girl.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Dec 30, 2010 7:01 PM CST up reply actions
This is a good time to mention some Dirk facts (at the risk of further inviting the jinx).
The Mavs are 26.6 points per hundo better in minutes with Dirk on the court than in minutes without him. Nobody else in the NBA is even close to that kind of difference. The splits of the Boston starters, Garnett and Pierce, are closest with 19 and 18 points per 100 poss. better.
When Dirk’s on the court, they shoot a 54.6 efg%, without him 45.4. They make 20 FTs per 48 in the Dirk minutes, 13 per in sans-Dirk moments.
His lineups are even better on defense, although reason suggests the starters’ defense will survive his absence. It’s 46.1% to 51.4% eFG for Dallas opponents depending on, you guessed it, Dirk Nowitski.
The Mavs are 26.6 points per hundo better in minutes with Dirk on the court than in minutes without him
Hope our guys can increase that number tonight!
by doggydogworld on Dec 30, 2010 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
Way to think outside the box half full.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Dec 30, 2010 6:53 PM CST up reply actions
“…our Texas rivals, the Cubans.”
I swear that had the voices in my head laughing for five minutes and chuckling for an hour and a half…
Zoy Zuperman!
“The Cubans”?
Not really funny to me. But the voices in my head laughed maniacally. Is that bad? At least yours agree with you.
"White-orange, orange, white-green, blue, white-blue, green, white-brown, brown"
by magnuskrauss on Dec 30, 2010 6:41 PM CST up reply actions
Knicks getting blown out of Disney World.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Dec 30, 2010 7:20 PM CST reply actions
So I finally got around to watching this season’s HEB commercials. Love the Spa Day one.
With all due respect, gentlemen, we're not as crazy as she is.
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