QuickCap #19 - San Antonio Spurs vs Minnesota Timberwolves
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 3, 2010 10:05 PM CST
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SPURS WIN!!!
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Roll Call: In the 666, Josh Guyer (completely deck), TDzilla!, bj1der, TD21, bones, Tim C., Spurs Kiwi, LatinD, CarBahia, SpurredOn, M3D1T8R, silverandblack_davis, audreypots, spursfan87, swgeek, Queness, Heman, SpursDinasty, mission20, jollyrogerwilco, Alamo, hurts2bgood, LakehillsFan, slipstream21, freshtunarightofftheboat, mikrobass3, Aaron Can, p2cat, richbruiser, SgtinManusArmy, Sh!fty, the little o, Cello the great, Bakkie009, Manu-20, WaveOcean, Bushka, prozak, Joseph Parkes, Ayatollah, fado, guille, One4theThumb, bluesteelxvii, ramirezm315, greyberger, pablitoo, OmnipotentOne
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| bj1der | 102 |
| swgeek | 91 |
| mission20 | 80 |
| In the 666 | 75 |
| WaveOcean | 72 |
| freshtunarightofftheboat | 68 |
| spursfan87 | 68 |
| Josh Guyer (completely deck) | 58 |
| TDzilla! | 51 |
| Cello the great | 50 |
| LatinD | 47 |
| Tim C. | 47 |
| bones | 47 |
| Queness | 42 |
| Spurs Kiwi | 42 |
| Bushka | 32 |
| LakehillsFan | 30 |
| silverandblack_davis | 24 |
| jollyrogerwilco | 19 |
| Aaron Can | 18 |
| guille | 14 |
| SgtinManusArmy | 11 |
| audreypots | 11 |
| M3D1T8R | 11 |
| richbruiser | 10 |
| the little o | 9 |
| prozak | 9 |
| TD21 | 8 |
| Alamo | 7 |
| ramirezm315 | 6 |
| greyberger | 6 |
| slipstream21 | 6 |
| fado | 5 |
| bluesteelxvii | 5 |
| SpurredOn | 4 |
| Ayatollah | 4 |
| p2cat | 4 |
| hurts2bgood | 3 |
| mikrobass3 | 3 |
| Manu-20 | 2 |
| Bakkie009 | 2 |
| pablitoo | 1 |
| OmnipotentOne | 1 |
| CarBahia | 1 |
| Heman | 1 |
| SpursDinasty | 1 |
| Joseph Parkes | 1 |
| Sh!fty | 1 |
| One4theThumb | 1 |
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Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 3, 2010 10:07 PM CST reply actions
BWHAHAHAH!!! to the tee!! this game was crazy!
"Dear prescription drug commercial,
It's nice to know that even though I have genital herpes, I can still go fishing.
Sincerely, thanks for giving me peace of mind."
by Cello the great on Dec 3, 2010 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
Wayne?
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Dec 3, 2010 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
Absolutely. Someone should chop Khan’s face on that. Just to be funny.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
YYYYYYYEEEEEEESSS!!!!
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Dec 3, 2010 10:07 PM CST reply actions
POP WINS THE GAME FROM THE LOCKER ROOM!!!!
Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan
Pop went to the locker room to offer some wine to this guy.
"White-orange, orange, white-green, blue, white-blue, green, white-brown, brown"
by magnuskrauss on Dec 3, 2010 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
Three stars are gonna be hard to pick. Maybe I’ll just give it to Pop.
Great comeback. Recap later. I’m out, fellas. High fives to everyone in the house.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Dec 3, 2010 10:08 PM CST reply actions
Consider yourself lucky.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
if you caught the last 3 minutes, it was a good game.
otherwise it was very stressful
by LakehillsFan on Dec 3, 2010 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
You guys are getting soft. This year’s Spurs fans better steel themselves for games like this. This version of the Spurs are not going to quit trying regardless of the lead and the time reamining.
by TD21 on Dec 3, 2010 10:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
+infinity. After the Slippers game, I wasn’t sure, but every other game this year it’s been as you’ve wrote.
Though time reamining sounds kinda obscene.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 3, 2010 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t think any opponent’s lead is sacred to these guys. Please don’t get me wrong, I can do without the drama and bury teams four minutes in the game, but I’ll take any kind of win any day of the week.
well said
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 3, 2010 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
Rec’d.
And man, can this team hang some quarters on opponents. Once they turn the tide with better focus on defense and get an outside shot to drop, it is on. Too much talent to hold down for all but the handful of no-legs games that every team has (see Spurs @ Clippers, December 1).
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
i have noticed that this team has the same MOJO as the 07 team, ’don’t count us out, we WILL come back in the 4th’
Yeah, I was thinking the same…only the ’99 team.
by titansfan4ever on Dec 4, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
Spurs offensive rebound rate: 18%
Wolves offensive rebound rate: 45%
Simply brutal. Im’a have to see the last time we had a defensive rebounding fail of this magnitude. On the plus side, wolves were just 41.5% on FGs, 3 made threes and 17 TO.
I disappeared (puppy issues) just as the Spur got it to within single-digit striking range, and they tie it back up a 99 when I looked on gamechannel… and they go on to win?! Hold the Twolves to 15 in the 4th? Was it defense, or were the Twolves just missing shots they were making earlier, and vice versa, the Spurs making shots they were missing?
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 3, 2010 10:14 PM CST reply actions
Pop slipped on the ring (ala Quinn) and disrupted the Wolves’ offense.
Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan
I didn’t get to see it. Only watched highlights on my phone that led to two Modelo’s Especial, which is a lot for me. So glad them wolves’ started missing, we started defending and we started making it more. Whheww. I want to only see the 4th on replay.:/
by cojones2thewall on Dec 3, 2010 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
DEFENSE!!!!!!!……wins games, right Pop?
by titansfan4ever on Dec 4, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
Ten minutes of defensive oppression that makes a young team wilt. Offensive execution that was a mixture of making shots that had been missing, plus easy scores that come from great defense.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Refresh for roll call. sorry for the delay
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 3, 2010 10:16 PM CST reply actions
problem may be playing (down) to the other team’s level.
And yeah, big and young could be a problem, esp. when the refs seem disinclined to call over-the-backs on the other side.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 3, 2010 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
Honestly though, being outboarded by over twenty is pretty ugly. Need to see some video, but my guess is players are out of position in defense and not boxing out properly?
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 3, 2010 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
Too often we had Manu and/or Hill boxing out Love and Beasley. It wasn’t just that our bigs got out-efforted (though that happened early in the game). We got cross matched on defense and could not control the paint.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Here’s a stat line to ponder, Manu 1-10 from the field (his only make was a three), yet he still ends up with 16 points, a perfect 13-13 from the line, 4 assists, 2 TOs, 1 steal, 1 board, plus-minus of +12. Even on an off-night shooting, the man imposes his will on a game.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 3, 2010 10:20 PM CST reply actions
On the other hand, just when we thought we’d stop seeing The Tim Duncan Line he went and put it up again (perhaps the first true Tim Duncan line of the year, since a triple dub is out of the ordinary). 9-14 FG for 22 points, 10 boards, 5 assists, 3 steals 4 blocks and 1 TO. And of course +19 in 35 minutes.
yes, a very TD-like line. But remember that he put up 16 points in the first half, so his second-half points production was not very impressive. I’m assuming though that he turned it up a notch on defense and grabbing boards in the 4th.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 3, 2010 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
He had to in the first half. Nobody can buy a basket, you’d think it was a bank holiday or something. Timmy on the other hand, owns the bank.
by TD21 on Dec 3, 2010 10:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Okay, I’m done. Too much excitement. I’m old, it’s late, and my body can’t take this.
Thanks for sharing the heart attack, fellas. See ya tomorrow.
I smell death... everywhere.
you’re like 27 years old. you’re not old
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 3, 2010 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
by spursfan87 on Dec 3, 2010 10:21 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
AIR BUD says…"It ain’t ova till it’s ova!!!!!
by titansfan4ever on Dec 4, 2010 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
“It ain’t eva ova!!!”
or should that be, “Eva, it’s ova”?
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 5, 2010 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
see ya later
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 3, 2010 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
Almost? Let me know when they have to bring you back with the AED
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 3, 2010 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
Thankfully that win and coach Bud’s out of the timeout play brought me back. But for the next games I think I will keep AED handy to bring myself back
Keep the faith!!
you’ve got that right
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 3, 2010 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
Yelling at the computer monitor could cause white-coated men to come to your house and fit you for a straightjacket.
"White-orange, orange, white-green, blue, white-blue, green, white-brown, brown"
by magnuskrauss on Dec 3, 2010 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
And despite a horrid 6 for 23 shooting from behind the arc, the Spurs still net nine more point from 3 pt FGs than the Twolves. Pretty important, given that the margin of victory was only 6.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 3, 2010 10:22 PM CST reply actions
Wow. just wow. Hill was amazing.
"White-orange, orange, white-green, blue, white-blue, green, white-brown, brown"
you’ve got that right. something motivated him
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 3, 2010 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
I value my arms so I won’t be making any comments on DeJuan’s game.
"White-orange, orange, white-green, blue, white-blue, green, white-brown, brown"
by magnuskrauss on Dec 3, 2010 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
He had trouble with the Twolves in the last game as well, so it could be a matchup problem for him. Let’s look again after the next few games.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 3, 2010 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
Hill’s been hanging around with #20……it’s contagious baby!!!!
by titansfan4ever on Dec 4, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
Someone please send me a box of black hairdye. If the Spurs keep this up, I will come back looking 60.
What do you guys think of Tiago? Is he overwhelmed with all that is going on around him?
Keep the faith!!
no no no no. I swear that the only reason he’s not seeing heavy playing time is because he’s been playing non-stop basketball for over a year. He played in the ACB all the way to the finals and won, then he went to FIBA. Trust me, this is a Pop ploy.
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 3, 2010 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
I did read your signature. ;)
Well, I’m not worried about how long he plays, I’m more looking at how he plays when he does. The team seems to lose it rhythm when he is in. I hope it is a getting used to the game thing and he will get it with time. Also, I’m worried about his lower body strength, gets pushed around a bit. And oh yeah, rebounding.
Keep the faith!!
I believe he is not getting enough time to make mistakes and then correct them. He is making mistakes so the confidence is not there yet IMO.
I actually think he’s played well. The effort is there for sure. The only thing he has problems adjusting to is playing against quicker, bigger, stronger, and more athletic players.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
We shot 26% from 3 tonight. When does James get back?
MANU GINOBILI Cares not for your humanity --Bushka
Not soon. The guys are gonna have to get their strokes back.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 3, 2010 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
NOOCH lost to the Kicks just so you know.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
sweet!
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 3, 2010 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
So, they’re going to be even more PO’d for the game Sunday? Or will they lay down and die if we get them down early(not exactly a given).
MANU GINOBILI Cares not for your humanity --Bushka
It should be more about how we play than how they play at this point.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Eager to hear what Pop has to say after this one.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
He might send Coach Bud to face the press. Wouldn’t that be a kick? :)
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 3, 2010 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
That would rock!
Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.
we called it! Coach Bud speaks!!!
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 4, 2010 1:40 AM CST up reply actions
Actually you called it. Way cool!
Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.
I’m gonna maintain that we called this one together, swgeek. Way cooler! :)
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 5, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
Is he allowed to talk to the press after being ejected? I don’t know what the rules are about that.
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 3, 2010 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
If he can’t, that just gives him more incentive to get ejected.
MANU GINOBILI Cares not for your humanity --Bushka
After you finish your 5th glass, what’s “enough”?
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 3, 2010 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
Forgot to mention, did y’all remember this was a THIGAFONI? Didn’t seem to bother Timmy though….
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 3, 2010 10:45 PM CST reply actions
Great game by the best power forward to ever play the game. He still has the juice! Beware.
The best PF forward to ever play the game. Period.
the GOATPUFF!
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 3, 2010 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe they’re kind of tired that’s why they lack the effort during the first 36 minutes of the game. TD is still TD!
The best PF forward to ever play the game. Period.
by bluesteelxvii on Dec 3, 2010 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
I hope we are not exhausting the energies of our Big 3(4?) early in the season by going for a lot of early wins
Keep the faith!!
I think the point is to not have to exhaust them going for wins late in the season. By getting some separation they may be able to rest before the playoffs.
I hope the knee bump that Manu got is not serious. You’re right. He’s a little off like there was no lift in his legs but he still imposed his will by getting on the free throw line.
The best PF forward to ever play the game. Period.
by bluesteelxvii on Dec 3, 2010 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
OKC Thunder lose to Toronto. OUCH.
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 3, 2010 10:51 PM CST reply actions
TWSS
Running game?
Where we're going, we don't need a running game.
~Norv Turner
by TecateBoltsFan on Dec 4, 2010 6:40 AM CST up reply actions
This was our worst defensive rebounding performance in quite some time. And we haven’t won a game despite such a disadvantage since 2003.
Darn… Mavs outplayed the Jazz, held them to 81 on-route to their 8th straight victory.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 4, 2010 1:30 AM CST reply actions
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by transgojobot on Dec 4, 2010 2:44 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Back to the Usual
I woke up to see what I thought I’d see a couple of mornings ago. (Had to make sure my eyes were seeing that score right for that one…)
One Q. though? What was the roatation like in this one?
Did we go small ball with Hill as the 3rd guard? -I didn’t see this one. I suppose that would explain the rebounding differential. --Wish I could have seen this one.
So this is another of the “How the hell did we win this game?….again…versus this team”
Anyhow,did Manu was on the bad streaky side?1-10?13-13 and +12?Seriously what happen?Should I say this again….?
"I cry,but everyone will cry if I'm in the NBA"-Adam Morrison.I know now why fans cry when they see him on the floor.
So Kevin Love is averaging 30 points and 20 rebs this season against us and yeah we still win.Not to mention another comeback(didn’t watch the game,got it from yahoo.)
So um,comeback prince 2-0 or 3-0 this season…not bad for coming back….
"I cry,but everyone will cry if I'm in the NBA"-Adam Morrison.I know now why fans cry when they see him on the floor.
I think Tiago’s 16 in the +/ stat is not at all a reflection of his play. Recall in his first stint there were 2 turnovers by Bonner on inbounds plays while Tiago was moving down to the other end of the court. The Spurs weren’t hitting their shots for the most part, and yet made 2 baskets on Tiago assists.
The 2nd time he came in was in the middle of Beasley shooting FT’s, which resulted in a -1 for him. He was in for less than 2 minutes, and during that time Pop got his 2 technicals to result in another -2 for Tiago.
Other than Love getting a quick two points while driving past Tiago in his first few seconds of his first stint, I don’t recall that it was Tiago’s man doing much scoring while he was in. It was often Beasley and Brewer doing the scoring. How much Tiago might have helped out is debatable, I think his assignment (Love and Koufos) were putting up 3 point shots that missed.
The 2nd time he came in was in the middle of Beasley shooting FT’s, which resulted in a -1 for him.
I don’t think it works that way. I’m pretty sure FTs accrue to the players who were on the court when the foul was committed.
by doggydogworld on Dec 4, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
I’m not quite sure how it works, but for one thing the NBA boxscore shows Tiago with a -16 as does ESPN, while popcornmachine.net has a -15.
Tiago’s first stint began with Tony going to the line, with the score at 22-17 Spurs. He ended the stint with the score at 38-37MIN. That is a 6 point swing (-6), unless you count Tony’s FT as occurring from the foul prior to Tiago entering, in which case it’s only a -5.
Second stint Tiago comes in with Beasley at the line with the score at 76-71MIN and Beasley sinks his free throw to make it 77-71. Tiago leaves at the end of the third qtr with the score 86-71 MIN. If you don’t count the free throws to Tiago, the game goes from Minnesota up by 6 to up by 15, a -9 for Tiago.
So if you don’t count foul shots of a player already at the line, then it seems Tiago should have a -14. To get to -16 you’d have to include Tony’s free throw after Tiago came in and Beasley’s. That would be the first stint going from a 5 point Spurs lead (Tony’s FT made it a 6 point lead) to a 1 point Minnesota lead for a -6. The second stint going from a 5 point Minnesota lead (not counting Beasley’s FT after Tiago came in) to a 15 point Minnesota lead for a -10. That means Tiago received credit for an additional -2 points for FT shots occurring due to FTs that happened due to fouls while he was on the bench. He gets another -2 for Pops double technical, and -4 on Bonner’s turnovers on inbounds play for a total of -8. Again, half of Tiago’s -16 had little to do with Tiago’s play; and most of the other -8 wasn’t directly related to how Tiago was playing nor the team playing worse due to Tiago.
My error. If Tony’s FT counts as having occurred prior to Tiago’s first stint (being fouled while Tiago was on the bench) then the Spurs going from a 6 point lead to trailing by 1 is a 7 point swing in Tiago’s first stint. Then likewise not counting Beasley’s FT’s to Tiago when Tiago enters due to the foul committed before, then you go from a 6 pt TW lead to a 15 pt lead for -9 to make -16.
Popcornmachine’s gameflow agrees with a -7 for Tiago’s first stint, but indicated he had only a -8 on his second stint. If you don’t count Beasley’s FT to Tiago you get a -9, but if you do you get a -10. I’m not sure how they came up with -8 other than they erred.
Checking a couple of other players and as far as I could tell doggyworld’s principle of counting the FT’s according to who was in the game at the time of the foul seems to work.
Trying to remember which cartoon character said that…..
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 5, 2010 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
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