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Game #28 Recap: Spurs 109, Nuggets 103 - The Bench Ain't So Bad

You might remember the previous game against the Nuggets.  There was a small amount of controversy about the final play of the game.  So tonight's game was a chance for Denver to exact a small measure of revenge for such an egregious flop.  It pleases me to no end that said revenge did not occur.

I'll admit that I didn't see the entire first half.  Fortunately, modern technology allows me to rewatch the game with the touch of a fingertip.  Unfortunately, I can still hear Scott Hastings.  MAKE IT STOP!

Altitude, the Denver network that shows the Nuggets and Avalanche, had a poll tonight for the Biggest Flopper in the NBA.  Manu won in a landslide (81%) over such luminaries as Chris Paul and Vujacic.

Star-divide

The ugliest good shooter in the NBA.

Nuggets Post Game show in reference to Bonner

Granted the previous quote is in regard to Bonner, but it's applicable to the Spurs as a whole.  This team is winning, but it sure hasn't been pretty.  Never has a 10 game winning streak been the cause of so many heart attacks.  My stomach is still tied in knots!  The Spurs need to have more consideration for their fans.  ;)

 

1st Quarter

Denver starts off fast, scoring the first 4 points, but Manu buries two 3s and the Spurs pull even at 8-8.  Then the most amazine thing happens - Splitter enters the game (SPOILER: He plays significant minutes)!  The rest of the quarter consists of back and forth play, highlighted by several Ginobili daggers and TIAGOALS.  In a foreshadowing of the 3rd quarter, we leave JR Smith open for several jumpers.  Both teams were disjointed, not able to put together a significant run, even though Manu and Tony score 11 and 8 points, respectively.

Tiago: 4 pts, 4 rebounds

End of the 1st:  Nuggets 27-26

2nd Quarter

After some good defense and a driving Neal layup, it seemed as if the Spurs might start to pull away.  It was not to be.  Lawson proved once again that he's the antidote to our interior defense, with some nice drives down the lane.  However, we countered with the Nailgun , who hit long balls on consecutive possessions.

After a timeout, where Pop yelled about the defense, Bonner was fouled shooting a 3.  The Sandwich Man missed all three FTs.  This is not good.  Lawson again drives the lane, and Pop continues to yell (but the Nuggets bench gets called for a tech - hee hee).  The Spurs continue to pass the ball well on offense, getting open shots, but the rim has obviously been Saran Wrapped, except for 3 alley oops to RJ.  The rest of the quarter has the same back and forth feel of the 1st quarter, with neither team being able to pull away.

Tiago: 1 rebound in 37 seconds of play

Neal:  3-5 FGs, 2-2 3-Pt FG, 9 Pts

End of 2nd:  Spurs 59-56

 

3rd Quarter

Aah, the 3QC.  How we have not missed you.  I rewatched the entire quarter to see if I could find a really nice play by the Spurs.  Any possibility was obliterated by the fact that the team decided to STOP PLAYING DEFENSE!  Everyone in the NBA knows that J.R. Smith has knucklehead tendencies, but when he's on, he can hit from anywhere on the floor.  In the span of 8:17 minutes, Smith proceeds to score 16 points on 6-7 shooting (4-4 from behind the arc).  Meh.  The one bright spot was Splitter showcasing his offensive post skills in the last 4 minutes of the quarter (he loves the backboard).

Tiago:  4 pts, 1 rebound

End of the 3rd:  Nuggets 89-80

 

4th Quarter

As this point, I'm sincerely doubting if the Spurs can pull this one out.  I'm happy to have been wrong.

The Spurs come out at the beginning of the 4th with a lineup of Quinn, Neal, Ginobili, Bonner and Splitter.  Another one of Pop's crazy lineup experiments, right?  WRONG!  Slowly but surely, the pine riders chip away at the lead by playing interior defense and timely shooting.  At the 9:30 mark, CIA Pop threw out another wrinkle - zone defense.  With Splitter anchoring the middle, the zone fully discombobulated the Nuggets for the next 3 minutes.  The starters came back in to try to close out the game, but it wasn't until Neal hit a couple of daggers in the last 2 minutes that the game was finally decided.

Tiago:  4 pts, 3 rebounds

Neal:  10 pts, 2-3 3-pt FG

End of the 4th:  SPURS WIN!  SPURS WIN!  79-3 still possible.

 

Observations:

  • Nene needs to cut his hair or change the style.  It just ain't working, big fella.
  • The Nuggets might be better without Carmelo on the court - at least the ball movement is.
  • Tiago had his best game of the year.  Although he's still raw, the BBIQ is there, especially with regard to positioning on the court and lateral defense.  He has good footwork, which is imperative for a big man.
  • The Spurs need to stop the defensive lapses.  Playing only one quarter of old-school D will not cut it against better teams.  The team needs to start games with the requisite intensity - not just crank it up when trailing.
  • The offensive machine keeps rolling, particularly with the secondary fast breaks.  However, we still sometimes take ill-advised shots in the half-court sets.
  • BAM is here to stay.  Heaven help the rest of the league when Hill and Anderson get healthy.

Your Three Stars

  1. Gary Neal - The Nail has icewater in his veins.  Gary doesn't care if you posterize him; Gary cares if his team wins.  And Gary scores 22 points on 7-12 shooting (5-7 from beyond the arc).
  2. Manu Ginobili - Another ho-hum performance of 22 points, 4 boards & 6 assists.  Once again, Manu showed his versatility by leading the bench lineup that was so successful in the 4th.
  3. Tiago Splitter - The Brazilian Big Man showed his potential with a 12 point, 9 rebound performance in 21 minutes.  Welcome to the League!

Up Next

SEGABABA at Orlando.  Despite the wholesale changes to the Magic roster, this game will not be easy.  Not only do the Spurs have to fly cross-country, but Tony, Manu and RJ all played over 35 minutes tonight.

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Slowly but surely, the pine riders chip away at the lead by playing interior defense and timely shooting. At the 9:30 mark, CIA Pop threw out another wrinkle – zone defense. With Splitter anchoring the middle, the zone fully discombobulated the Nuggets for the next 3 minutes.

I love this part. The zone was completely unexpected. I know Dallas goes into zone a lot this year (usually with Haywood and some of the benchies) but I don’t know how often we’ve used it. Pop always seems to have an adjustment ready when we’re losing and this year he’s got promising weapons.

by greyberger on Dec 23, 2010 12:52 AM CST reply actions  

QWin has been a steal for us so far. He comes in with a lot of energy and seems to make all right plays – shooting, assists, even important rebound and steal tonight. I am very impressed with his contribution in a very limited minutes.

"Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure."

by Kondor on Dec 23, 2010 1:08 AM CST reply actions  

Quinn, I hate to say it but he is our second best pg in our roster right now…he needs to keep getting some of his minutes when Hill is back. We can’t put this guy back in the cooler when his game is paying us so much dividends….

What a luxury having a bench with Neal, Quinn and even Tiago improving every game!

by spursfan_needs_counseling on Dec 23, 2010 9:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Second best out of two is pretty good :-). Oh yeah, guess Hill is technically a point guard, but I don’t think of him as one. Notice that when he is in Manu handles the ball a lot more.

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Dec 23, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Touche!
But my point exactly! a true point guard feels more natural in our offensive schemme.

Don’t get me wrong Hill brings a lot other things to the team, but is as important also to have the option to play Manu off the ball, which can be Neal for that matter….again, more natural.

Anyway, I just hope he keeps Quinn as equal in the equation, he proved he is worth.

by spursfan_needs_counseling on Dec 23, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

QWin is probably the most pure PG we have on the team. I see TP, Manu and Hill all as 1/2 combo guards, which is fine because we can play them in any combination, and having the ball in Manu’s hands is not at all that bad. Neal seems to be more of 2 than 1
as well as Hill. So we may want to play QWin as a PG when neither Tony, nor Manu is on the court. As long as he is playing like against Denver, he is a very nice option to have. I still think that our best two PGs are Tony and Manu, but QWin looks like a solid 3rd option at that position.

"Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure."

by Kondor on Dec 23, 2010 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

QWin (nice nickname btw) is indeed probably the most ‘pure’ PG on the Spurs, but he’s made a couple of important threes under pressure as well, so he’s not a pass-only guard by any means. Playing him as the PG when neither TP nor Manu are on the floor is an interesting idea. Let’s see if Coach goes for it. Though… it may be harder for him to do that after Hill and &erson come back from injury.

Hill and Neal are also combo guards in my book ─ they’ve made some memorable and important assists as the ball-handler ─ but I agree that their primary strength and focus right now is scoring.

There’s been quite a bit of talk league-wide about how good the Spurs’ guards are, but one thing most seem to miss is how versatile they are…. combo guards like them give Pop a lot of flexibility in terms of playing different combinations of them depending on the game situation.

They're not your pop's Spurs... they're Pop's Spurs 2.0!!!

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 23, 2010 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Good recap, Cap. hah. I usually don’t read recaps because I watch the games but tonight I had to miss it so this was much appreciated.

On a completely unrelated note, did you see the Hopkins vs Pascal fight? Is it worth me watching onDemand right now?

Tiago Splitter > Matt Bonner

by Manuwar on Dec 23, 2010 1:13 AM CST reply actions  

Didn’t see it, but read it was a good fight.

With all due respect, gentlemen, we're not as crazy as she is.

by CapHill on Dec 23, 2010 2:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Great recap. The zone killed the Nuggets in the fourth. We only allowed them 14 points while scoring a bunch. Can you imagine that? Though, I want to see them play D not only when we’re trailing.

The best PF forward to ever play the game. Period.

by bluesteelxvii on Dec 23, 2010 1:47 AM CST reply actions  

Gary Neal – The Nail has icewater in his veins. Gary doesn’t care if you posterize him; Gary cares if his team wins. And Gary scores 22 points on 7-12 shooting (5-7 from beyond the arc).

If Neal wasn’t forced to take 2 quick rush shots, he’d really be 5-6 from 3pt and 7-10 overall in field goals. He was solid.

Honorable mention to RJ who made some solid plays. To end the 2nd quarter he had like 7 straight points.

by grego21 on Dec 23, 2010 1:57 AM CST reply actions  

If Neal can consistently stroke the three like that ,milliseconds after catching it…LOOK OUT.

This guy is playing as clutch as Romaju ever did, with a better overall game.

[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]

"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said

by alamobro on Dec 23, 2010 3:02 AM CST up reply actions  

More consistent scorer though. That’s the difference though. Neal is a scorer while RMJ is a shooter. More off than on. He played like that was his contract year.

I’m curious how it’ll all play out once Anderson and Hill are back. The minutes will get tighter although that should help RJ/TP/Manu pick up a few extra minutes of rest.

by grego21 on Dec 23, 2010 3:31 AM CST up reply actions  

This.

Manu does not "miss," he simply grants the basketball free will to disobey.
- AFA2010

by sparking!!! on Dec 23, 2010 6:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Distributing minutes amongst Hill, Neal, &erson, and even Quinn is likely to be a difficult task, to be sure, but consider this: if one player is having an off night, slightly hurt, or mismatched on defense, Pop has an arsenal of players that he can draw upon, and hopefully he’ll find the one who can get the job done before the game clock runs out. That’s a luxury that he and the Spurs have not had for quite some time.

And, as you point out, it’ll help our starters catch a few extra breaths of rest over the upcoming road trips and beyond.

They're not your pop's Spurs... they're Pop's Spurs 2.0!!!

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 23, 2010 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Quinn’s minutes will dry up once Hill and Anderson are back. That’s a simple one to figure out.

by grego21 on Dec 23, 2010 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

 imho clutcher (is that a word?), and with more maturity.

They're not your pop's Spurs... they're Pop's Spurs 2.0!!!

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 23, 2010 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I like “clutchier.”

by DrumsInTheDeep on Dec 23, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

me too, though it sounds like it could also refer to a maker of clutch purses. :P

They're not your pop's Spurs... they're Pop's Spurs 2.0!!!

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 23, 2010 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Honorable mention to RJ who made some solid plays.

He also had a clutch block at the rim (on Billups?) in the 4th quarter. I’m still loving that I don’t get to complain that he’s at the wrong spot or looking lost on the court this year. Even when he’s not having a great night statistically (and to be honest, he made some mistakes in recent OT victory against the Grizzlies that could have been costly), he continues to contribute in other ways.

They're not your pop's Spurs... they're Pop's Spurs 2.0!!!

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 23, 2010 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice ’cap Cap. Nice win

by Big50 on Dec 23, 2010 2:03 AM CST reply actions  

Cap = btw, on the Spurs telecast, they showed Anderson doing some shooting drills at the sideline. That looks promising as they mentioned he couldn’t even do that days ago.

by grego21 on Dec 23, 2010 3:32 AM CST reply actions  

Yes, that was a promising moment. Anderson actually recovered from a similar injury when he was in high school, so he should know this routine well. Can’t wait to get him back.

All these GIFs are breaking my browser.

by quincyscott on Dec 23, 2010 10:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Will a blog poll show that the Spurs are in and win more blog polls than any other team? Seems there’s a whole lot of trophy envy going around.

I missed the 1st half but watched the replay. Could not believe some of the easy scores missed by the Spurs early in the game, starting with the Manu’s first layup. To see them win on a night where G-Hill doesn’t play; they miss 9 FTs and are -10 at the FT line; -3 on rebounds; TD played only 27 minutes? Wow. It looked like most 50/50 calls went the Nuggets way, especially when Blair or Splitter were on the court. None of that mattered.

Denver is a very talented team. Lots of quickness, shooters, and the difficult match up of Nene in the paint. Lawson was drafted specifically to help match Tony and other quick guards in the West; he’s able to stay with TP plus attack on the other end. They won both games in SA last season and were due for a one-game overachievement when a star player is out. None of this mattered as the Spurs defeated Denver twice in seven days, shooting 52% and 53% respectively, even while each game was part of a Spurs back-to-back. Broke their hearts in Denver then followed that up with a bench mob mugging. It is hard for even the most talented rosters to match up and keep up with this Spurs team. What a nice playoff feel victory even in December. The foundation for bigger things continues to be set.

Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."

by SpurredOn on Dec 23, 2010 4:58 AM CST reply actions  

STOP WINNING ALREADY!

Yes, caps. Yes, in the subject.

Sorry, had to.

Now for a decent reply: gratz on the 10th. Looking forward to meeting you guys in the new year. Should be a nice game, somewhat of a challenge, a game to get up for.

You guys think you’re going to the finals this year?

Cheers,

- Dirk van Boxtel, the wandering Celtic fan.
Twitter: @4Hoopz

by Kiorrik on Dec 23, 2010 5:47 AM CST reply actions  

It’s still way too early to tell. We have to get through Dallas and la first. We haven’t had a hard schedule so far.

by Jordan Leithart on Dec 23, 2010 7:05 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

We’ll see.

Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™

by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 23, 2010 7:59 AM CST up reply actions  

We are trying not to think too far ahead, just enjoying the moments as them come. That is what makes this season so special for me, no expectations, just fun.

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Dec 23, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Last year we were trying to figure out which game was the one “that would change everything.” This year we don’t need such games – just simply enjoy…

by 4Him on Dec 23, 2010 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Getting through the West is more difficult than the East. If the Spurs have the #1 seed that trip will be a degree less difficult; I certainly expect to see them their against Boston in a much better match up than Celtics-Lakers.

Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."

by SpurredOn on Dec 23, 2010 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I already made a bet with my friend that this year, considering both teams stay relatively healthy and the current records, that it will be Spurs v. Celtics in the Finals. Miami won’t have the coaching or playoff experience to guide them to the Finals. LA is on the decline, and Dallas, well, Dallas doesn’t have Pop.

by Michael Chavez on Dec 23, 2010 8:15 AM CST reply actions  

I only got to watch the first 3 minutes of the game as I had to drop-off my mom to the mall. Then on the way, the clutch of my car got broken so I had to get it replaced. I thought this was an omen on the Spurs game (like a RQC or something). Fortunately, this wasn’t, as our clutch players came through again with timely shots and defense to win us our 10th straight.

Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan

by TDzilla! on Dec 23, 2010 8:49 AM CST reply actions  

Sorry that your clutch is broken. Fortunately the Spurs’ is not.

They're not your pop's Spurs... they're Pop's Spurs 2.0!!!

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 23, 2010 2:06 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh man, that sucks. Cause according to the laws of mojo, as a true SPURS fan, you now have to manually burn out your clutch each time the team is playing.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 23, 2010 5:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree with SiMA, sorry ’Zilla, you have to make the ultimate clutch sacrifice.

"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire

by silverandblack_davis on Dec 23, 2010 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Tis the season of stars brought about through Pop’s…“Are we having fun?” attitude of imbalance.

by indiancharlie on Dec 23, 2010 8:50 AM CST reply actions  

What a great game! It was a lot of fun to watch. Splitter played finally. I want Pop to play TS more but from what I read about what Pop is trying to do with TS I trust Pop. I mean I know I’m not the only one who sees how good we are when he’s on the floor, and the scary part is TS is only going to get better learning from the best TD. My new favorite nba analyst Kenny Smith, he said exactly what I think we are all thinking that the Spurs are getting no love for the record they have. Kenny Smith also said if this was the Fakers, Boston or Miami that everyone would be saying that they are going to win 70 games. He’s the only analyst giving the Spurs any love. Skipp Bayless dosen’t count cause ESPN has banned him from saying anything about the Spurs, why?.

by spurlover on Dec 23, 2010 9:12 AM CST reply actions  

Thanks for the ‘cap, Cap. The Spurs are trying to kill us with these close games, but what does it say about them that they keep finding a way to win? Pop’s adjustments last night were beautemous to behold.

I know you yearn for the day when you can see Anderson running the floor—stay strong! He will find you!

I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.

by Lauri on Dec 23, 2010 9:53 AM CST reply actions  

stay strong! He will find you!

GOL :D

by LionZion on Dec 23, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

There was one sequence in the 1st quarter wherein Manu had the ball, then he passed it to TD, then he passed it to Splitter for the deuce. It was like counting numbers, 20-21-22.

Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan

by TDzilla! on Dec 23, 2010 10:06 AM CST reply actions  

Nice, thanks Cap.

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Dec 23, 2010 11:08 AM CST reply actions  

Rec’ed.

Now excuse me, I’m off to post your comment at Denverstiffs.

I never take the high road, but I tell other people to, that way there is more room for me on the low road.

by SinCitySpur on Dec 23, 2010 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

perfect.

Bonner with the nice box out!

by SpursfanSteve on Dec 23, 2010 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

19 highlight plays? I’ll give them two.

by r21x on Dec 23, 2010 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

GOL!

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Dec 23, 2010 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

By the way, why are you not writing fanposts for our entertainment instead of snippets like this? I expect more for my money you know.

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Dec 23, 2010 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

You’re a good soul to ask, but I’m soon going to. Things have been crazy lately with recovering from surgery, work, ruining my computer and having to replace it, and now the holidays. At the least, we’ll have a new podcast up within the week and I’ll probably write something soon.

I could easily say the same thing though, geek.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 23, 2010 5:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I posted something just a few… weeks, (or months) ago. Besides, my life is going far too well for me to write (according to LD’s law).

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Dec 23, 2010 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

action thriller!

Watching this game was like watching an Action Movie Thriller. Trading punches back and forth at first, then the bad guy takes some momentum and it looks like it’s all about over --early 4th quarter. But I knew the Spurs were going to come back and pull it out somehow. And sure enough, Pop switches to zone and Denver starts shooting cold in the middle of the 4th q. Anderson, Bonner, RJ, Splitter and Manu hit some big shots down the stretch to keep it from being a complete nail bitter.

Side note: Spurs would have pulled to a double digit lead in the 2nd quarter. But Quinn was giving up the right side for T. Lawson, and he just coasted to the basket for layups. I know Quinn can make some plays but he didn’t look good against the more athletic Lawson. I think Hill would have done better. Can’t wait to have him back.

Oh and Neal looks just like he did on that Europeon highlight reel someone posted back during the summer. I knew that all he would need were minutes and touches and that he would keep scoring like he’s accustomed to doing. I hope they keep giving him the opportunities because him and Hill are a potential nightmare off the bench in the playoffs.

-So great to hear Bill and Sean again on league pass! This is looking like a great way to deal with home sickness.

by SpursfanNrome on Dec 23, 2010 1:08 PM CST reply actions  

of course they would feature Sasha in that poll. lol

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

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by shaqfor3 on Dec 23, 2010 1:15 PM CST reply actions  

Great recap, CH! Rec’d for your sacrifice in allowing Hastings into your head.

Some thoughts (lots of them):

  • Over at Denver Stiffs they’re still complaining about “The Flop” (as they see it) in the latest game recap. Still, they do have some discerning fans…. one posted this surprising sentiment:
    However when you compare us as a team and an organization to the San Antonio Spurs. We are just worse in every way. That’s all there is to it.
  • I’m actually starting to like the ‘ugly’ wins. It’s kinda fascinating seeing all the different ways they come up with to win. Of course, I hope that the Spurs are firing on all cylinders come playoff time.
  • I thought Quinn played very well overall, but Lawson sure did seem to have his number in the 2nd quarter. Especially loved his no-panic, ‘on-the-knees’ assist to Neal and a key steal (in the 4th quarter, I believe).
  • The lid on the Spurs rim at the end of the 2nd (and much of the 3rd?) was frustrating; otoh it made their 4th quarter outburst all the more satisfying.
  • Even more frustrating was JR’s 16 3rd quarter points. Fortunately he reverted to knucklehead form in the 4th, the most telling example to me being his failure to drive on Bonner in a mismatch. If he made that silly, silly three he put up instead, I would’ve said they have the mojo tonight and conceded. But he didn’t, and I became even more convinced that maybe Kenny has something to his theory that the Spurs are beating teams by daring them to take only good shots for a full 48-minute game.
  • Pop said after the game that he had the Spurs go zone because he was ‘tired of begging them to play defense,’ but I think it’s a little more subtle than that. Quinn/Neal/Ginóbili/Bonner/Splitter probably hadn’t played together as a unit very much outside of practice (if even there). Man-to-man defense could prove to be problematic for such an untested five-some, but the responsibilities in a zone are pretty much the same for the defending players regardless of whether they normally play together or not. The Spurs were fortunate that the Nuggets’ had cooled down from behind the arc (they were 0 for 8 in the final quarter) and weren’t able to take advantage with lots of baskets off of offensive rebounds; otherwise, it could have turned out very ugly for the Spurs.
  • The Nuggets did indeed seem to have good ball movement at times last night. Maybe it was ‘Melo, maybe it wasn’t. But I think it shows they’ll be OK even if he doesn’t re-sign with them.
  • I’ve been complaining that Tiago hasn’t played enough this year (so far), and I’m happy that he used the minutes he got last night to show Coach what he can do. Nearly a double-double to go along with solid defense in what, 21 minutes? As someone at 48MoH (?) pointed out, there were a lot of voices early last year complaining that DeBeast needed more minutes to develop, and look how well that turned out. It’s possible that Pop may simply be playing the ‘managing minutes’ game with Tiago, due to his pre-season injury and lack of any real rest since the summer before last. (And bearing in mind the relative lengths of the NBA and EuroLeague seasons.)
  • I’m OK with the Spurs holding teams to one or two quarters in the teens each game, if they’re able to keep it close in the other two or three quarters and can run up the score in the quarters that they play ‘old-school D.’ And I really don’t think it’s traditional old-school Spurs D. To me, it looks and feels more like the Magic/Kareem Lakers, with long outlet passes off of defensive rebounds and turnover-generating defense leading to fast-break opportunities.
  • Those ‘ill-advised shots in the half-court sets’ generally occur when the Spurs stop ball movement and players start standing around instead of moving around without the ball to cause the opposing team’s defense to break down. They’re so effective when they play offense right that, several times each game I’ve noticed that the ball-handler sometimes misses an open teammate flashing to the basket, but then gets an even better shot opportunity (for himself or another player) because the defense continues to break down under the unrelenting pressure. It’s truly amazine to see, as beautiful as the ballet or living art of the “Princeton offense” is (imho)…. and it makes it even more painful to watch the Spurs when their offense is stagnant or littered with bad decisions.
  • Manu may be the “Man with No Swagger” but Gary is the “Man with No Fear.” Nothing seems to phaze this ‘rookie.’ I continue to be glad to say that I was entirely wrong in my expectations for him and his game.
  • Speaking of Ginóbili, I’m ecstatic and amazed that Pop is somehow able to start Manu yet still have him play minutes with the bench as their primary playmaker and facilitator… I think the new players benefit from playing with him (i.e. are able to contribute and develop faster), much as RJ and Blair benefited last year. Of course I’m concerned about the amount of minutes Manu’s been logging, but he’s probably tougher and more durable than I realize. So far, so good.

They're not your pop's Spurs... they're Pop's Spurs 2.0!!!

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 23, 2010 3:49 PM CST reply actions  

The zone really stuck out at me. The way to bust a zone is to dribble penetrate and collapse the defense, kick the ball back out and then use quick perimeter passes to either find the open jumper and give someone a lane to the basket. However, the zone that the Spurs played last night wasn’t the usual 3-2, 1-2-2, 1-3-1 trap or even a true 2-1-2. It was more like a Box and 1, except the 1 was in the middle of the zone.

Tiago’s responsibility was to protect the paint. He’d slide up behind the guards to take away the dribble down the middle, but then slide back down the lane to prevent baseline drives. That’s not easy. The other four then became a continuously rotating trapezoid, not allowing any good ball movement below the arc. It was quite impressive, considering this group had never really played together before.

I’d like to call it the Rhombus Zone, but I don’t think even the detail-oriented Spurs can maintain equilateral sides at all times.

With all due respect, gentlemen, we're not as crazy as she is.

by CapHill on Dec 23, 2010 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Good observation Cap.

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Dec 23, 2010 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Even more frustrating was JR’s 16 3rd quarter points. Fortunately he reverted to knucklehead form in the 4th,

The 3rd quarter points were because we could not be bothered to challenge him at the 3 point line. A few wide open shots got his rhythm going, but then luckily for us he started taking the contested ones too.

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Dec 23, 2010 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

The Spurs were fortunate that the Nuggets’ had cooled down from behind the arc (they were 0 for 8 in the final quarter)

And on the flip side, the 0 for 8 was because we switched up the defense. With the zone there was always someone to contest the three, and even the open shots did not give them time to have a relaxing cup of tea before the shot.

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Dec 23, 2010 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

GREAT points, tuna. Especially-

But I think it shows they’ll be OK even if he doesn’t re-sign with them

.

I couldn’t agree more with you here, their numbers (PER) aren’t greatly different with or without Melo. Even though, on paper, it would seem ridiculous to say that they’re better off without him; they actually do play better defense and better “team-ball” with no Melo.

And as an objective basketball fan, this is what scares me for the nuggets. I easily see them surviving without Melo, likely even maintaining a 7 or 8 seed. In other words, they lose their all-star franchise potential HOFer and don’t suck…. and then gain absolutely nothing by not earning a lottery position. It’s the Ewing theory at work, and it’ll trap them in perpetual mediocrity.

As a SPURS fan, I couldn’t be happier and eagerly welcome the self-imposed destruction. It couldn’t happen to a classier, more disciplined bunch of role models.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 23, 2010 5:34 PM CST up reply actions  

It couldn’t happen to a classier, more disciplined bunch of role models.

Nice!

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Dec 23, 2010 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

What will make me laugh (other that Spurs winning it all, of course) is when Melo goes to the Knicks and they regress instead of getting better.

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Dec 23, 2010 6:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Ginóbili

Now that’s going the extra mile. I like you.

I smell death... everywhere.

by LatinD on Dec 23, 2010 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

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