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Like stats?  Like winning?  I went a bit crazy with the Basketball-reference.com Play Index, and came up with seven peeks under the skin of the terrifying winning machine that is our Spurs.  You already know that Manu is unstoppable and Splitter is a beautiful, beautiful man, but don't you want to revel in the details?  How could you resist?

Star-divide

  • Bonner isn't the only thee point specialist on this team.  Gary Neal and James Anderson are already among the leaders in 3 point makes per minute
  • Another guy on that list is Manu Ginobili, who has improved his efficiency tremendously with the three.  Manu's not shooting threes or twos better than in years past, but he's shooting more 3-pointers and free throws and fewer two-point attempts.  The net effect is a rise in his TS% to 62 percent, a career high if it holds.  It's also the third-best among primary options in the NBA today, close behind another hated-everywhere international player on a hot team.
  • If there's anything more we want out of Richard Jefferson (this also holds true for Matt Bonner) it's for him to get more touches and shots, because he cannot miss right now.  RJ is even more efficient than Manu with a TS% of 64 percent and almost half as many turnovers per possession, but he accounts for only 17.5% of our offense (Manu shoulders a team-high 26.1%).  Just maintaining his current numbers would make the first season ever for this mix of efficiency and usage.
  • "So apparently, according to the stats, if you pass me the ball, I'm more likely to score than you. Comprende, Manu?"

    via sbnation.com

  • ESPN, in the form of Bill Simmons, again addressed the 'decline' of Tim Duncan, this time in the context of the MVP race.  Apparently his efficiency is fading, probably due to age, in contrast to eternals like KG.  This is ridiculous.  Tim's minutes and shot attempts are down and his offensive rebounding is up.  Beyond that, his numbers are as steady as ever in scoring efficiency, rebounds, assists, blocks and steals.
  • 2011 Tim still compares favorably to Garnett's seasons in Boston - Kevin has better shooting percentages, but a smaller role in the offense and fewer assists, blocks, and offensive rebounds.  
  • Dejuan Blair looks amazing on paper.  His shooting slump is largely over, and there was never a drop in his rebounding performance.  His new-found ability to come up with steals might be a fresh wrinkle on his game, an effect of the team defense or just an oddity caused by the small sample size.  Either way we are blessed with a variety of players who are on rookie or cheapie contracts and performing at a big-money level.

Now you know eight things you hopefully had too much of a life to be familiar with.  In the next installment I'm planning on looking at the team stats for the young season, and identify strengths and weaknesses relative to the league and Spurs champions past.  If you have them please append suggestions, requests, or venomous attacks on the huge nerd of an author below.

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GJ GB. Thanks for the insights.
Banana should start hang around with Chip.

by sparking!!! on Dec 14, 2010 12:31 AM CST reply actions  

Good to know these, Grey, thanks.

by TD21 on Dec 14, 2010 12:39 AM CST reply actions  

excellent post. so glad you take the time to write about stats. i look at them and think “hey, thats cool” but thats about as much as i can muster.

and speaking of stats, i’ve got a take home final due tomorrow at 730 spurs time. any of you stat geeks feeling bored and charitable :-p

Bonner with the nice box out!

by SpursfanSteve on Dec 14, 2010 12:55 AM CST reply actions  

just kidding. i would never cheat. i’m a grad student.

Bonner with the nice box out!

by SpursfanSteve on Dec 14, 2010 12:55 AM CST up reply actions  

yes you would. without remorse.

Bonner with the nice box out!

by SpursfanSteve on Dec 14, 2010 12:56 AM CST up reply actions  

STFU. i stopped cheating after high school. re-using MY papers isnt cheating.

Bonner with the nice box out!

by SpursfanSteve on Dec 14, 2010 12:56 AM CST up reply actions  

but its certainly lazy.

Bonner with the nice box out!

by SpursfanSteve on Dec 14, 2010 12:57 AM CST up reply actions  

all i want is my PHD and eventually tenure. is that too much to ask?

Bonner with the nice box out!

by SpursfanSteve on Dec 14, 2010 12:57 AM CST up reply actions  

it’s a helluva lot to ask =D

gospursgo. hook 'em. metal rules. ganja rules.

by metalandganja on Dec 14, 2010 8:29 AM CST up reply actions  

<blockquote"So apparently, according to the stats, if you pass me the ball, I’m more likely to score than you. Comprende, Manu?"> LoL,so this just proves that RJ is definitely RJ of his younger years where he was the main guy who touches the ball.
Great article.Can you also compare our ‘10-’11 spurs to past champs(hate to say it but the fakers so as Bos)then the past SA championship years.
A little segue way, we got to thank Mil for kicking Dall-ASS and yeah were playing them two days from now,so let us just hope that our guys won’t be too kind to them and we’ll have that suffocating defense and yeah,let’s just hope Brandom and his men of reindeer are kind enough of giving as our Christmas present this month by giving as that W.

"I cry,but everyone will cry if I'm in the NBA"-Adam Morrison.I know now why fans cry when they see him on the floor.

by tp_09 on Dec 14, 2010 4:20 AM CST reply actions  

Gathering and feasting on humble pie.

by indiancharlie on Dec 14, 2010 7:13 AM CST reply actions  

Very nice post. This is a great way for me to digest stats. I am not smart enough to go looking at pie charts and random numbers to figure out who’s doing well. Of course the eye ball test tells me that your stats are spot on.

by Big50 on Dec 14, 2010 9:21 AM CST reply actions  

Not too much to become acquainted with. Go timmeh. Good RJ too, but I am still committed to Manu.

by cojones2thewall on Dec 14, 2010 11:05 AM CST reply actions  

lol. the chicken receiving the letter in that toon should be saying “just 3? I was thinking at least 5 or 6 standard deviations above the norm.”

by i luv this site on Dec 14, 2010 11:09 AM CST reply actions  

greyberger, good work here.

Can’t wait for the next.

Enjoying the trip to # 172 as much as humanly possible

by J.R. Wilco on Dec 14, 2010 12:25 PM CST reply actions  

And Mark, your images and captions just continue to floor me.

RJ’s is just over the top hilarious. I’m considering making it my signature.

Enjoying the trip to # 172 as much as humanly possible

by J.R. Wilco on Dec 14, 2010 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks, Coach :)

"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire

by silverandblack_davis on Dec 14, 2010 7:19 PM CST up reply actions  

ESPN, in the form of Bill Simmons, again addressed the ‘decline’ of Tim Duncan, this time in the context of the MVP race. Apparently his efficiency is fading, probably due to age, in contrast to eternals like KG. This is ridiculous. Tim’s minutes and shot attempts are down and his offensive rebounding is up. Beyond that, his numbers are as steady as ever in scoring efficiency, rebounds, assists, blocks and steals.

No offence to Timmy but why would either of these guys be MVP candidates or in the discussion this year. Both do more on the defensive end then shows up on the box score but neither is asked to carry the load on a deep team and there are better/more important players on each of their teams at this point. Also efficiency does matter but so does overall stats and min played. As you mins go down you can maintain your efficiency but you impact on the game does go down cause you are playing less. I like PER as a stat but min played at that level and def which isn’t tracked well also have a lot to do with how good a player is.

I guess I’m wondering why tim is being compared unfavorable with Kevin as they are almost in a dead heat as far as value…but I’m also wonder why this came up in an MVP conversation. I agree the idea of Timmy’s decline is EXAGERATED and to say that Garnett who is also clearly in decline the last few years has somehow avoided any decline is silly.

by spurs fan on Dec 14, 2010 1:02 PM CST reply actions  

Sadistics usually make my head hurt, but this is good stuff…thanx! GSG!!!!!

Honestly. You kids today, with your hippity-hop music and your Twiddle. - Lauri

by p2cat on Dec 14, 2010 1:27 PM CST reply actions  

GOLed at the “sadistics usually make my head hurt”. Was that word choice on purpose or just a random typo?

by Spurlady on Dec 14, 2010 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I probably stole this term of endearment while taking the class in college;)

Honestly. You kids today, with your hippity-hop music and your Twiddle. - Lauri

by p2cat on Dec 14, 2010 7:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Either way, it works as a possible addition to the Lexicon.

Enjoying the trip to # 172 as much as humanly possible

by J.R. Wilco on Dec 15, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Nice post, great breakdown. I keep wondering when DB’s big, soft Magnet Hands are going to get noticed for something besides the great rebounding numbers. You brought it up: I would guess that his per-minute steals numbers stack up pretty well against the best in the league.

by ChapRL on Dec 14, 2010 2:01 PM CST reply actions  

Congratz grey, your FP made Tim Griffin’s roundup of interesting Spurs blog posts today!

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Dec 14, 2010 11:04 PM CST reply actions  

Very much appreciate your researching and sharing these tidbits.

Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Dec 15, 2010 3:42 AM CST reply actions  

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