Game #22 Preview: Hawks @ Spurs
Good news, Spurs fans. The Spurs are playing a team other than the Hornets, Clippers, Warriors, and Timberwolves. Even though I enjoy wins as much as anybody else does, playing the same teams over and over again gets really old. That was the good news.
The bad news is, we're facing a team that is probably going to be a matchup nightmare for the 2010-11 Spurs. The Spurs are going to have a height and size disadvantage at almost every position tonight. They're starting legit 7-footer Jason Collins at center, and have moved Al Horford to PF, Josh Smith to SF, and Marvin Williams to SG. Not only that, but their defense seems to be constructed in such a way as to minimize the strengths of our offense. Ruh-roh.
Let's hope the guys wearing white and black tonight can make 'em pay.
Since the Spurs kicked butt the last time I used a song from an industrial band/group, I'm just going to go ahead and post another.
Don't forget your glow sticks.
Let's do it.
San Antonio Spurs vs Atlanta Hawks Where: AT&T Center When: 12/10/2010, 7:30PM Spurs Time - Timezone Converter Watch: FSSW
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Matchup Analysis
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PG: I only ask one thing of Tony tonight, other than for him to be himself: Don't leave Bibby open from downtown. He's leading the NBA in 3-point percentage, and with all the other problems Atlanta's "tall ball" lineup will pose for us, we don't need Mike freaking Bibby beating us with 3's.
SG: No Joe Johnson tonight, which means that Manu's advantage is ever greater at the position, but likely also means that the Hawks' offense will become more free-flowing and less predictable. Marvin Williams is a guy that I've secretly (or not-so-secretly) wanted on the Spurs for a while, but after Childress left, the Hawks decided they couldn't afford to let him go. Smart move. He's playing out of postion, but he's young and athletic, which should minimize the risk.
SF: Oh my goodness. I love RJ 2.0, but this is the mismatch from hell for him. Smith is taller, just as fast, and more athletic than Rage, and he's shooting better both from the field and from beyond the arc. So this time, the Spur belongs to RJ's opponent.
PF: Nothing like a couple of games against the Warriors to make DeJuan look good, but this is another mismatch from hell. Not only is Horford crazy athletic, and good at almost everything, he's currently third in the league(regardless of position) in PER. Yikes. I hope Blair can hold his own, because we're going to need every little bit we can get to offset Horford's dominance.
C: Look, Jason Collins. I'm sure you're a decent player, otherwise your coach would not have inexplicably moved both Smith and Horford to the starting forward spots. But, you're no Tim Duncan. Speaking of Timmy, we're probably gonna need the big guy to score a little more than normal tonight. I know he won't let us down.
Bench
The Atlanta bench is usually good enough to merit a tie, but with both Johnson and Zaza Pachulia out, they're not as deep as we are.
Coaching
Larry Drew has given the Hawks an actual offensive system that doesn't rely on one player to create almost everything they get. That said, count the rings and look at the NBA standings.
Intangibles
You can't teach height. Or athleticism. A veritable forest of long arms in the paint means that the Spurs might have trouble finishing at the rim. Which is bad, because it's one of the keys to the Spurs' offense. The other one is three-point shooting, which(as I'll explain below) will also be difficult tonight.
Mojo
Best start in Spurs history. We're on top of the league right now, looking down, and it's gotta give our guys confidence, especially seeing how long we've been there already.
Prediction
Another W for the good guys. Not an easy W, mind you, but a W nonetheless.
Keys to the Game
Rebounding - Atlanta, despite having such athletic bigs, is a below-average rebounding team. Hopefully, this is a trait that we can exploit, giving us some extra possessions to work with.
Ball and player movement - Atlanta is the 4th best team in the league at defending the 3-ball, forcing their opponents to shoot 32% from beyond the arc on the season. Combine that with their freakishly tall starting lineup, and you start to see why the Spurs' offense(dependent on 3-point shooting and penetration) might struggle a bit. However, their bigs tend to struggle with the pick-and-roll(Splitter, anyone?), and if the ball keeps zipping around to players in motion, we should be able to confuse, and ultimately beat them. This obviously starts with Tony and Manu, but is not limited to them.
Force Turnovers - Possibly the Hawks' greatest strength on offense this year has been their passing, as they have a greater percentage of assisted field goals than even the Spurs. If you can make them hesitant to move the ball around, you take them out of their gameplan. Turnovers also give us extra possessions, which is always a good thing. Get those hands in the passing lanes, guys.
Other Reading
Spurs
48 Minutes of Hell - Check out the advanced scouting report posted on gamedays for great in-depth analysis of the day's matchups.
Hawks
Peachtree Hoops(SB Nation) - Atlanta fans are digging the new ultra-tall lineup. Don't forget to write in the subject line if you visit them.
Following Along
TV
You can catch this one on Fox Sports Southwest in San Antonio, or SportSouth TV in Atlanta(shout out to my uncle and grandparents!).
Radio
WOAI 1200AM; Audio League Pass[streaming]
Online
As always, NBA league pass is recommended for those who are willing to pony up the cash. Almost every Spurs game will be broadcast there, which is especially helpful for those of us who aren't in the San Antonio area.
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Fuck it, Spurs by 35
"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili
by spursfan87 on Dec 10, 2010 8:34 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Fuck it, Spurs by 35
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by Cello the great on Dec 10, 2010 9:22 AM CST up reply actions
Spurs it, Fuck by 35
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by sleep research facility on Dec 10, 2010 9:32 AM CST up reply actions
35 it, Fuck by Spurs
Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan
35 Spurs fuck by it
chaos... panic... pandemonium... my work here is done.
by rick2g on Dec 10, 2010 1:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If you count the comma, there are 720 permutations of this phrase.
chaos... panic... pandemonium... my work here is done.
Bucket, Spurs by thirty and five
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 10, 2010 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
rec’d, because there is nothing quite like the original.
Bonner with the nice box out!
by SpursfanSteve on Dec 10, 2010 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
Spurs should continue moving and sharing the ball while encouraging the Hawks to be stagnant on offense. Let’s see some D!
I think our D is a little better than theirs…we’ll see.
by titansfan4ever on Dec 10, 2010 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
another good tester for our spurs. will have to stay in front of these guys best we can and REBOUND. hawks getting a good amount of offensive boards will spell doom. ok, so that’s my key to victory tonite……
Especially since that doesn’t appear to be their strong suit.
by titansfan4ever on Dec 10, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
so should Spurs
"The A-Train deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Dec 10, 2010 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
This is going to be a match from hell for sure. Atl is second in the league at defending the three ball – their opponents are only making 5 threes a game. They also guard every other area of the floor well except for the 16-23 foot range – which is a generally a low % shot. The Spurs do not shoot well at this range.
For all the talk about their big men – they are not a great at the rim team. Back it out a little to the Key and they become a top ten scoring team here. Unfortunately this is also a defensive weakness for us (as posted in my Whose Who of Spurs’ formidable opponents)
They pass the ball extremely well – 2nd only behind Boston in assist rating – and they are a great jump shooting team.
With all the scary stats aside – this ballclub has beat up on weak teams but has yet to beat a top tier team. Tough but they are not in the NBA Elite Club.
Spurs should win this one. The spread is 8 pro-Spurs.
"The A-Train deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
So AG…do you think we’ll finally get to see Duncan & Splitter playing together tonight?
by titansfan4ever on Dec 10, 2010 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
not sure – haven’t seen it yet – what do you think?
Pop is subbing Timmy with Splitter – I think he keeps Blair starting for sure and rotates Splitter in – maybe some SAM
"The A-Train deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Dec 10, 2010 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
I think this game would be a perfect time to have them both on the floor at the same time.
by titansfan4ever on Dec 10, 2010 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
I disagree. Even though the Hawks are very good at defending the three, we need to spread the floor as much as possible(just the threat of the three, or Dice’s long jumpers should do it) to minimize the number of long arms in the paint blocking shots.
Free Tiago Splitter!
Give me more “long arms in the paint”….that’s what I’m talking about!!!
by titansfan4ever on Dec 10, 2010 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
You do realize I was talking about Atlanta having a lot of long arms in the paint, right? We need to make it harder for them to recover on penetration.
Free Tiago Splitter!
Atlanta is actually not a great blocking or rebounding team. They are in the middle of the league and they mostly been playing weak teams – so not a big worry there.
"The A-Train deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Dec 10, 2010 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
Their 3 point defense statistics might be a result of their schedule. The majority of their opponents seem to be at the bottom of the 3 point shooting statistics. A few teams that are better at 3 point shooting that they have played:
Philadelphia – 5 of 11 and 3 of 12
Boston – 5 of 11
Minnesota – 8 of 21 and 8 of 22
Phoenix – 11 of 23
Miami – 3 of 8
The Hawks record in these 7 games not surprisingly is 4-3, beating Minnesota and Philadelphia the 4 games they played. Boston and Miami both won by large margins, and being “held” to 8 three pointers between them was likely just a matter that they could score at will all over the court. Phoenix is then one of the few better 3-point shooting teams that they’ve been involved in a close game, and they made 11 of 23.
I’m pretty sure that the only team the Hawks have won against with a record of .500 or above is Orlando earlier this week. That game a few of Orlando’s players were returning from the flu. Overall their opponents have lost nearly 30 more games than they have won, and they’d be much worse except for Dallas and Boston being among them.
nice stats Alamo – true, Atlanta has not played and won against Elite teams
"The A-Train deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Dec 10, 2010 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
+1
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Dec 10, 2010 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
I’m hoping for another win – it will make missing the game more palatable.
With all due respect, gentlemen, we're not as crazy as she is.
What could possibly be more important than the Spurs?
by titansfan4ever on Dec 10, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
Christmas concert
With all due respect, gentlemen, we're not as crazy as she is.
by CapHill on Dec 10, 2010 3:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Ah yes…it is the holidays, isn’t it? Actually, I love those, too.
by titansfan4ever on Dec 10, 2010 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
The Hawks won’t stay with that kind of line up all game. They bring Jamal Crawford off the bench early on for Collins. This is a team that is big, but plays small.
Check out the advanced scouting at 48MoH today. That starting lineup is apparently their most successful. Hopefully nobody tells them that.
Free Tiago Splitter!
The starting lineup listed above of Bibby, Williams, Smith, Horford & Collins? It seems like it has only 21.97 minutes together for a -5.13.
tell him to cool off…we ned him healthy
by spursfan_needs_counseling on Dec 10, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
Any news on when &erson will be back? I know he’s rehabbing, but I miss watching him play.
With all due respect, gentlemen, we're not as crazy as she is.
by CapHill on Dec 10, 2010 3:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This team does scare me. First, all opposing teams will play extra hard to dethrone a front leading team as the Spurs. Also the losses the Spurs incurred with the exception of the Hornets were to big athletic front courts players who can contest points in the paint and have the potential to out rebound you offensively and defensively. The Spurs must start fast and not allow any glimmer of hope to the HAwks that they can beat this team.
Well, hopefully we can shoot lights out from downtown, and it won’t matter. But remember…if you live by the 3…you can die by the 3, too.
by titansfan4ever on Dec 10, 2010 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
Collins and Etan Thomas both have very high PF/minutes averages, so they will likely be in foul trouble before the 1st quarter is over. Horford would appear to be more likely to end the game with 5 fouls, while being careful to avoid the 6 foul most of the 4th quarter. Josh Smith has reached at least 4 fouls 10 times in 23 games, but looks like he fouls less as a SF. I think the Spurs should get a lot of opportunities at the foul line.
The Hawks are playing pretty well right now having won 7 of their last 8 games, however they haven’t been too successful against teams playing > than .500 ball. They are only 3-6 against > than .500 teams and have basically feasted against < than .500 teams going 12-2 against them. I think we will be fine as long as we move the ball on offense, rotate properly on defense and take care of the boards. Although they are athletic, without JJ they really don’t have anyone outside of Jamal Crawford that can break down the defense consistently so we can make them perimeter team by rotating properly defensively and preventing too many transition baskets.
As long as we play the way we’ve been playing so far (good ball movement, getting out in transition, good rotations on D) we should win this game. As good as the Hawks front line looks, they have all of one player (Crawford) who is able to create his own shot. Defensively we should be able to contain this team and I think we have more offensive weapons than in years past to increase our chances of having an offensive mismatch. We can win once we play well.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich

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