Game #4 Recap: Spurs outshoot Suns, the Ghost of Corner Threes Past Comes Alive
First big win of the season, yes? I know the Suns aren't as potent as they were when A'm'a'r'e' was still turning Nash's glorious passes into buckets, but as the famous line goes, they still are who we think they are - lots of running and creating havoc on offense, especially those dreaded pick and rolls.
Pardon me if this'll be a little short - we're blessed to have several great posts about this game, starting with Stampler's recap, to be followed by Tim C.'s in-game recap a few hours after this one.
Jump in.
Let me preface this by saying that I finally succumbed to Stern and his evil empire by subscribing to International League Pass, and this was supposed to be the first game I'd watch on the it (thankfully it was on local television so I just viewed the replay). I signed up for ILP yesterday, and in less than an hour, I received a text AND a call from my credit card company reporting a "suspicious transaction" in my credit card account. You should've seen how I quietly panicked, thinking about the lifetime of debts I'd incur because of some identity thief. I asked them what the transaction/s was/were about, and they said, "Uh, someone bought an International League Pass, sir." I told them calmly that it was me and that the transaction was clean.
And people tell me that games are fixed. That's the NBA for you, fellas. Always inviting suspicion.
1st Half
Perhaps the sloppiest half the team has played so far in this young season - turnovers everywhere, players were making careless passes as if it's still the preseason, bungled easy shots, and committed lots of offensive fouls. The Spurs finished the first quarter with eight turnovers, which pretty much set the tone for the 23 total that the team ended up with.
I thought he'd be a great fit at first but after seeing how plodding Hedo Turkoglu has become from the very opening sequence - he couldn't chase down a loose ball that was only inches away from him and bouncing out of bounds slowly - I already have doubts. He should be in shape since he played summer ball at the World Championships for Turkey, but he only played 17 minutes and looked lost in the Suns' free-flowing run-and-gun offense. Clearly, the experts were right in saying this guy needs the ball in his hands most of the time to be effective, and we all know Steve Nash owns the rock at every Suns possession. And putting Turkeyglue at power forward is probably more disastrous than putting DeJuan Blair at center. I know it's a long season, but good luck with Hidayet, Suns fans.
I'll speak more about Richard Jefferson in a bit, but I just want to mention about his increased number of trips to the free throw line so far. Simply put, if Jefferson drives to the basket, referees more often than not are going to give him the benefit of the doubt with foul calls, compared to, say, a slashing Tony Parker. Yes, I went there. RJ's size at the SF position is such an asset complemented by nice body control and being a veteran in this league, the refs are inclined to blow their whistles in his favor whenever he's challenged in mid-air. Maybe it's just me talking nonsense but during games that his shot's not falling, the team would be best served if he constantly attacks the rim and gets to the line.
The half ends at 50-50 and Nash heads off to the locker room looking pissed. RoLo botched a ton of Nash's passes, and it was clear Stevie was missing the ol' Apostrophe. Warrick and Hedo are what you get for not ponying up to extend Steve Kerr.
Also, good thing Channing Frye wasn't possessed this game. Duncan took him out with the early foul trouble.
1st half notables
- Warrick was mostly the beneficiary of great passes from Nash and Dragic off the pick and roll. Dragic, in particular, had some amazing dishes. The best of them happened when Dragic passed the ball between Blair's legs to Warrick for the score. Very Manu-like.
- Splitter is already benefiting from playing alongside the GoatPuff. In the 2nd quarter, Tiago Splitter fouled Garet Siler. After Siler misses the first freebie, Duncan walks towards Splitter, looks at Tiago for a second or two and then reaches out a hand for a mid-five as if to say, keep your head up, rookie. I think Tiago played much better and hustled more after that. That's the TD effect for you.
2nd Half
RJ remains active and involved in the offense, which brings a smile to many a PtRockers' faces. During one play, he missed a fastbreak layup but didn't give up on it and followed up his own miss (beating Blair to the LOLbound and putback). All game long, TP and TD kept finding RJ, thanks to his strong, hard cuts to the basket. Rage was also at his element during fastbreaks, and while his finishing abilities are still rusty, he finally seems to have figured out how and when to get his points.
The tale of Phoenix's offense in the second half was practically a lot of Nash, Richardson and Warrick. The Spurs were fortunate that Steve had a horrendous shooting night (8-22), but you could also argue that San Antonio probably won't commit 23 turnovers again (which the Suns converted into 23 easy points). As is usually the case in Suns-Spurs games, you always throw the stats out of the window. The team who wants it more and who has the players with the bigger balls to step up to the challenge always wins.
The Suns coming back to take a three-point lead after Jefferson's three ball party brought a tremendous scare to PtR Land and probably shortened lives. It didn't help that the Big Three, as doggydogworld pointed out in the post-game thread, froze out RJ after those big threes he hit. One was actually a good play when El Contusion found an open Le Baguette for the jumper, but Parker was just off all night because of foul trouble so no money there.
The Big Three and the coaching staff should really look for Rage more not only for long-range shooting purposes, but every time we can't get anything going out of our usual stars, I think RJ has now shown that he can be relied upon. He's worked his ass off in the offseason and it's already paying dividends. If he fails at times then we'll just have to live with it. That being said, trust is such a big factor in the Spurs organization, and Peanut just might have to play this entire season well to really only begin to earn back that trust he hasn't received from a season ago.
2nd half chits and giggles
- There was a sequence when Blair just threw an inexplicable pass out of bounds to... referee Leon Wood! It was clear that nobody was around the area (Duncan was within a couple of feet away from DeJuan). Definitely a WTF or BBBLLLLAAAIIRRR??? moment there.
- Duncan's jumpers are not as high-arching as Dirk's, but so far it's been really efficient. Plus it saves some wear and tear on his body so everybody wins.
- Splitter is LEGIT with the pump fakes and footwork. He may seem awkward but he's effective. In one play, he posted up Warrick and instead of going straight up, he used the basket as a shield - against Warrick and an incoming help defender - pulled out a drop step to get to the other side of the ring and scored.
- RJ saying to TD, "That's my spot!" (Bruce's old corner) after his third straight three and a corresponding timeout by the Suns.
- After RJ's fourth three and a Suns timeout: In the huddle, Neal slaps Jefferson at the back of the head while talking to RJ as if Neal's saying "Hey, you took my shooting touch from the last game!" and then both share a laugh. Neal didn't seem to be down after being benched for nearly the entire 2nd half, which is good for the 26-year old rookie.
- Sebastian Pruiti of NBA Playbook breaks down the play that finally broke the Suns' backs. Check it out.
- Suns broadcast showed a statistic of Tim Duncan being the winningest (close to 70 percent win-loss record) active player in the NBA AND all of the 4 major pro sports. Very cool.
Your Three Stars
3 - Antonio McDyess -- Old man was a warrior out there and proved to be really steady.
2 - Tim Duncan -- Toss up between him and RJ. Timmeh continues to amaze, and had some big blocks during the game, including the last one on Warrick's layup.
1- Richard Jefferson -- Chose him over TD for his clutch shots. Your first 1 star, Rage. And hopefully more to come.
The Magic that Happened
Many thanks to jrw for helping me identify these.
Possibly a new James Anderson nickname:
&ERSON - jollyrogerwilco
Getting symbol creative tonight, hm? Nice. - Queness
I’m still uncertain about the ampersand, but I do appreciate jrw’s creativity. - CapHill
Ampersanderson? - SinCitySpur
As an addendum to the &:
Sure is fun to watch Homer Ampersanderson play, eh? - jollyrogerwilco
I LOVE IT! LOVE IT! LOVE IT! LOVE IT! - CapHill
GOL-ables:
Wow, I’m speechless….Can we trade Tony so we still have a big three? - spursfan_needs_counseling
Guess who’s going to get a tattoo tomorrow of RJ’S "RJ" on his bicep! That’s right beaches, ME! - SinCitySpur
RJ’s shot is smoother than a jar of creamy JIF tonight. Choosey moms choose Rage. - lullaby
Pop needs to call 2(4) down. - SinCitySpur
The 81-1 dream still lives! See you all next game against the Houston Rockets.
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With how easy Splitter scored on Warrick, I’m surprised we didn’t pound it down to him more.
by Jordan Leithart on Nov 4, 2010 11:18 AM CDT reply actions
Anyone have an idea of what is going on with Temple? I looked at the boxscore and he played 14 minutes at a -12? Yikes. I haven’t been able to catch a game yet, but is he pressing because of Neal? Does he look uncomfortable out there? I can’t imagine it’s because of the lineup he’s in because everyone else seems to be doing well.
When he was on the floor, the Suns reeled off several big runs against the Spurs unit that was on the floor… and he wasn’t in any unit that had an appreciable run against the Suns. I’m hesitant to blame this on Temple alone – basketball is a team game, after all – but that’s why he had such a poor +/-.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
1) Jefferson’s shot looked great with the arc as opposed to how relatively flat it was last season. Great work in the offseason by him. He also did well in attacking the rim because there is no one on Phoenix’s roster who can challenge him.
2) The turnovers have been problematic. Hopefully it’s the result of having so many players new to the team and something that’ll get fixed as the season progresses.
3) I’m really liking Splitter. It’s nice to have a backup big man with real live post moves and a high basketball IQ.
Asked before the game how Parker has looked, Popovich said, "He’s still cute. "
Turnovers will be ironed out as the season progresses.
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Nov 4, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
great recap to a solid win
I met Marjele in a Kansas City Airport once when I was a kid. I thought he would have been impressed that anyone realized he was Dan Marjele. He was not.
GOL
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Nov 4, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
great writeup my man!
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Nov 4, 2010 12:09 PM CDT reply actions
Great recap, thanks. I’m gonna have to watch the game again just to catch all the things you mentioned. :)
I think Duncan was trying to get the ball to an open RJ in the corner one more time between the three straight he made, and the fourth one that was decisive, but TD got trapped under the basket with a triple?-team and had the ball stripped from him.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 12:51 PM CDT reply actions
Nice recap.Anyhow, Hou is 0-5 and that is just terrible considering their talent.Hope we can win against them,but just like PHX,that team gives as hell plus the friendly rival that we have with them.Hope we can pull it off but I’m not really expecting us to win but It’ll be better if we do,let’s keep that 81-1 spirit alive. :)
And I think it has been a guards show in Houston,i haven’t watch any Hou game but I can sense not much defense and I guess they might be pulling ala Suns on offense and defense,just correct me if I’m wrong,but this is not so Houston,maybe I should be thankful for that.
"I cry,but everyone will cry if I'm in the NBA"-Adam Morrison.I know now why fans cry when they see him on the floor.
The timer on Yao Ming’s minutes makes playing Houston like playing two different teams in one game. I can see theoretically how that could work to the Rockets’ advantage, but it doesn’t seem to be working that way in practice.
And with their 0-5 start, Houston should be hungry, which makes them even more dangerous. otoh, I’m hoping that Blair finds his form in this game, as I believe he played well against them in their two pre-season contests.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Also George might be returning against Houston and he should be able to offer some defensive help on their guards. Plus Aaron Brooks always seems to bring out George’s best, for whatever reason.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
ooops, I meant to write 0-4 start. I wasn’t predicting a Spurs win Saturday, honest…. does that get me off the hook with the gods of mojo?
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 5, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Cool Recap davis!
League Pass is so worth it!….This year I had to cut costs though and went for the poor man’s version, LP mobile. Now I’m stuck watching the entire season on a 3" screen, awesome!
by spursfan_needs_counseling on Nov 4, 2010 2:46 PM CDT reply actions
zone defense fail = 3 3’s from wide open RJ
good game I wish PHX coulda taken it but Tim C. was out to curse date night. that splitter guy looked pretty damn good and RJ2.0 seems to be working out. on PHX’s side everything I was concerned about happened…and more . Fropez is digressing after a break out season (I think he’s trying too hard). what to do with hedo? at first i thought send him to the second unit and let him be the primary ball handler but did you see the dimes goran was dropping…not so sure i want to see goran become a SG just to accommodate turkeyglue. and to top it off nash shoots like shit! oh well it was a fun game solid win for the spurs (shit) and a good excuse for me to hang out on PtR for a while…
my face plam moment…nash lofting the ball towards the rim while a wide open siler stands watching the ball sail by and out of bounds before he realizes it was an ally oop pass siler looks at nash as if to say ’I’m just here to take up space against Temmeh, I can’t JUMP’
"I feel younger almost every year. I feel like I'm getting better every year. I feel like the season gets easier for me the last two years." Steve Nash
I see the three consecutive triples by RJ 2.0 more as an overall defensive breakdown rather than something specific to the Suns’ zone defense. I can understand them leaving him open for the first one – he’d missed one earlier in the game, and they’re not familiar with this Richard Jefferson. But “Fear the Rage” – his second open look was a lapse in judgement imho, and the third made Gentry call a timeout to talk things over.
But incredibly, they left RJ open behind the arc at least two more times in the 4th quarter; once, when Duncan was trying to pass the ball out to RJ in the corner (TD had the ball stripped away inside), and again for his decisive 4th trey for the quarter. This is more than a zone defense fail, it’s a serious inattention to perimeter defense and/or too slow closeouts.
Fropez digressing? Like he’s changing the topic or something? I think you mean regressing.
It’s true that Dragic had a better night than Nash, but fortunately for us, foul trouble limited his playing time. As far as Turkey-glue is concerned, his ineffectiveness was covered for by Warrick’s play off the bench. I think Warrick wound up playing nearly 2x the minutes Hedo did.
Nash had a poor shooting efficiency, but so did J.Rich… I’m gonna have to watch the game again to decide whether it was the Spurs defense or just an off night for both. The Suns announcers seemed to think that the Spurs were paying particular attention to Richardson whenever the Suns had possession of the ball.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
zone d fail on the first 2…Warick followed his man while everyone else zoned up, doesen’t excuse the other times he was left open.
your right i meant regressing…but i digress
silar; not nocking SA’s D but nash had some awkward open looks because when he drove into the lane to get the shot he wanted more then a few times siler was standing in the way, nash had to alter the shot.
"I feel younger almost every year. I feel like I'm getting better every year. I feel like the season gets easier for me the last two years." Steve Nash
For Anderson’s nicknames what about just plain Mr Anderson ?
Or another on is JA Manderson ? If you don’t like these nicknames don’t laugh I know they might be bad. Also a great recap btw.
Anderson is going to turn into Bowen 2.0. His defence has been great. He needs some seasoning, but he is more than holding his own against opponents
A really old television series from the 1950’s was"Father Knows Best" with the main character being James “Jim” Anderson. James Jr.’s nickname was “Bud” Anderson. Maybe not a great basketball name, but Bud works much better than Princess or Kitten.
Possibly a new James Anderson nickname:
&ERSON – jollyrogerwilco
Getting symbol creative tonight, hm? Nice. – Queness
I’m still uncertain about the ampersand, but I do appreciate jrw’s creativity. – CapHill
Ampersanderson? – SinCitySpur
I like calling him just Neo as in Keanu Reeves character from the Matrix that Agent Smith calls Mr. Anderson…I know, that explaination wasn’t necessary, but I’m over-communicative that way.
While complacency costs, perseverance pays
I kind of like like Neo too, but for some reason, nicknames from The Matrix just never seem as cool as the source material. So, I’m not too excited about it.
The point with intangibles is that no one can see them.
Well whaddaya know… Ampersanderson is ranked 7th on David Thorpe’s rookie rankings, Neal 10th and Tiago 33rd. Not a bad bunch.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 4, 2010 7:02 PM CDT reply actions
Check out our stats. Even though we are only four games in to the season, who knew Jefferson would be our leading scorer, Anderson would have the same PPG as Georgie, and Splitter would be averaging more PPG than Blair?
What do you guys think of Houston game? is Houston going to go 0-5, or will they finally make a stand and win their first on our expense? I’m surprised they are starting 0-5, they are suposed to be a playoff calliber team.
It’ll be a tough game. Always tough to play a team with no wins because eventually that team will break through. They’ve had some tough games. They almost won the Lakers game for instance.
lol….
I just realized Rick Astley is your avatar. For a while, I thought it was you.
Why Rick Astley ?
[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]
"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said
Congratz on the SpursNation mention, silverandblack_davis!
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 6, 2010 1:47 AM CDT reply actions
Thanks, tuna :)
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 6, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Heh, you sure diddy, B. Did. Good job :)
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 9, 2010 12:22 AM CST up reply actions

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