Quick Cap #4: RAGE-ing Spurs defeat the Suns, 112-110
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 3, 2010 11:35 PM CDT
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Woooooo!
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 3, 2010 11:37 PM CDT reply actions
Going to be a great day tomorrow.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Nov 3, 2010 11:38 PM CDT reply actions
Just looking at that boxscore… Wow! Great offensive game. Timmy 11-13, RJ 9-13 (4-5 3PT).
Defensively… Uhm.
We won.
The Eurbro - By Tim C.
well yeah but this want a good match for us…and 23 TOS!!!! we cut down on those not as many easy offense for the suns and it wouldn’t have looked as bad…still not get but not as bad
yes, too many turnovers… they helped the Suns stay in the game.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 3, 2010 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Like I said in the game thread, anyone who’s be saying (or even thinking) that Timmy is too old and/or doubted RJ would be better after his hard work this summer should watch this game again. Seriously.
Three straight triples from the corner by RJ in the fourth quarter took the Spurs from down 3 to up 6. It might have been four straight from the same spot, if Timmy hadn’t gotten the ball stolen from him when he was trying to pass it out to RAGE again (in the same spot). As it was, he made another trey a little while later. I think the Spurs may have found a the guy to occupy Bruce Bowen’s old corner office. :)
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 3, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah, the old corner office.
The one with the multiple-championship view?
"You may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas." -Davy Crockett
"Give me an army of West Point graduates, and I'll win a battle. Give me a handful of Texas Aggies, and I'll win a war." -Gen. George S. Patton
by Trey Felder on Nov 4, 2010 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
my favorite view :)
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Nov 4, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
love this win for us!
1 quality win against a team that was a match up problem for us
2 Timmy comes to life for his first really good game even though he had to many turnovers
3 not only does Jefferson have his 4 really good game in a row its his best and he came through in the end when it mattered
1:38 Richard Jefferson makes 23-foot three point jumper (Manu Ginobili assists) 108-106
1:32 Phoenix 20 Sec. timeout
1:23 108-106 Steve Nash misses 11-foot two point shot
1:20 Antonio McDyess defensive rebound 108-106
1:00 Tony Parker misses 10-foot jumper 108-106
0:59 108-106 Channing Frye defensive rebound
0:49 108-106 Tim Duncan blocks Hakim Warrick’s 5-foot jumper
0:47 Tim Duncan defensive rebound 108-106
0:43 108-106 Grant Hill shooting foul (Richard Jefferson draws the foul)
0:43 Richard Jefferson makes free throw 1 of 2 109-106
0:43 Richard Jefferson makes free throw 2 of 2 110-106
took us from down by 1 to up by 4 on 5 straight points from rage
before that triple, he made three straight treys from Bruce’s old ‘corner office’ bringing the Spurs back from 3 down to 6 up. A 9-0 run all by himself… well, nearly. Gotta give credit to the guys who saw that he was open and passed it out to him.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 3, 2010 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions
also, nice for RJ to play well in Phoenix, being a former Wildcat and all…
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 3, 2010 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
before that triple, he made three straight treys
Then Tony, Manu and company froze him out for the next seven plays. The hottest player on the floor literally did not touch the ball for 3+ minutes. The Spurs were 0-3 with four turnovers during that stretch, transforming a 6 point lead into a 3 point deficit. At this point RJ realized that in the Spurs system, making consecutive threes is considered “showing off” and cause for punishment. Duly chastened, he made sure to shuffle his feet and get called for traveling when he finally did touch the ball, contributing to team unity by bringing himself down to their level of incompetence. But then Pop screamed at him so RJ scored our next 5 points and all was well.
Despite the freeze-out, RJ scored 14 of our last 18 points. In the 4th quarter he was 6-6 from the field (4-4 from the arc) and 2-2 from the line.
by doggydogworld on Nov 4, 2010 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually, it looked to me that Duncan was trying to pass it out from beneath the basket to an open RJ 2.0 in the corner in the time between Rage’s third and fourth triple, but unfortunately he was triple?-teamed and Phoenix stripped away the ball.
You’re suggesting that the Big Three have egos that care more about not ‘showing off’ than about winning…. I doubt they really think that way.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
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'Offensive rebounding' is a gross understatement of DeJuan Blair's skill. It is far beyond 'offensive' and should be qualified as 'Get The Hell Out of My Way Or I'll Tear Your Arms Off and Eat Your Babies' rebounding.
by Iullaby on Nov 3, 2010 11:42 PM CDT reply actions 11 recs
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'Offensive rebounding' is a gross understatement of DeJuan Blair's skill. It is far beyond 'offensive' and should be qualified as 'Get The Hell Out of My Way Or I'll Tear Your Arms Off and Eat Your Babies' rebounding.
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I laughed when i first seen this without the add on and I laughed even harder after the add on. LOL. I swear I am using this after I hit my J’s in my city league basketball season.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Nov 3, 2010 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm… let’s try this testing….
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Let’s see if this fixes the italics
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 2:42 AM CDT up reply actions
just a local fix?
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 2:42 AM CDT up reply actions
not a persistent fix.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 2:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Tis’ true! He’s been so butter!
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Nov 3, 2010 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9zhTRgvMcs
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Nov 4, 2010 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Refresh for the boxscore on top, fellas :)
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 3, 2010 11:42 PM CDT reply actions
Quick notes from the game:
1. RJ 2.0 is no joke.
2. Tim Duncan continues to slap father time in the face.
3.Garret Temple is no George Hill
4. Blair needs a new girlfriend.
Thank you guys for a great game. It was fun. See you guys later.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
by bj1der on Nov 3, 2010 11:43 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Hill may have learned something from last year’s experience.
Despite Nash’s shooting woes tonight, Temple still managed to get schooled by him.
Right now, I’d play a healthy Hill ahead of Temple, even against Phoenix.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions
I actually thought Temple did really well at cutting off Nash’s inside passing lanes. Went Nash sent him into a screen, however…
Agreed. Temple held his ground a lot more consistently than Hill did last season. However, Temple doesn’t have the luxury of getting a lot of consistent play time, sadly.
Hill last post season used his hands and grabbed which caused him to pick up fouls. Temple used his body positioning better to avoid those fouls which Parker was picking up (like Hill did last post season).
+100000000000000000000000000000000000000000
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Nov 3, 2010 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions
All of the sudden Rage is underpaid…..but probably he likes it better this way.
Love you RJ
by spursfan_needs_counseling on Nov 3, 2010 11:44 PM CDT reply actions
If I were his agent, he would have signed the first billion dollar contract in the history of sports. It would have made A-Rod’s look like pocket change.
I never take the high road, but I tell other people to, that way there is more room for me on the low road.
Unbelievable, the new big three doesn’t have Tony on it from now on.
by spursfan_needs_counseling on Nov 3, 2010 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
actually, I’m hoping this is the year LA, Miami, Boston and the rest of the league realize that a “Big Three” is no longer sufficient. They shoulda been aiming for a “Fantastic Four” all along.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 3, 2010 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point. But I’m not certain that Garnett qualifies as a legit Big Three member anymore.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions
what a fantastic game to watch.
i think i never watched Nash missing so many shots (8-22), don’t know why but I can’t stand that guy.
my god Alonzo Gee played four seconds and Bobby Simmons got a DNP.
Pop is getting smarter by the day!
by r21x on Nov 3, 2010 11:44 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I think I’m going to have to write an apology letter to RJ.
With all due respect, gentlemen, we're not as crazy as she is.
still early clearly but hes looking good and i’ve said before he too too much blame last year…really like it so far this year
He maybe had 8 good games last season? He’s already matched half of that.
I mean he’s shooting 65% FG and 50%+ 3pt while scoring about 18/game. I mean it’s hard to think he’s going to be the same as he was last year.
If he can carry us like this for several games, I’d be truly ecstatic and forgiving.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 3, 2010 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
it isn’t just the stats he looks so much more comfortable out there…2nd year in system, fully health big 3 to help take pressure off, smaller contract…whatever it is he looks great and liek i said under pressure int his one…great win
it’s his hard work – call it a rededication to excellence – in the off-season.
Everyone thinks Phil Jackson is the master of player psychology, but I have to give props to Pop for the effective way he challenged last year’s RJ to evolve into RJ 2.0
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions
so true
Plus the team seems to be running more motion offensive sets and less standard post up plays for Timmy. It works to Jefferson’s strengths big time when he is cutting and slashing. The guy looks super aggressive on offense and defense and he also looks like he has turned back the hands of time to the Jersey days.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Nov 4, 2010 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow. I laugh, I cried, I threw a chair a la Bob Knight. Awesome game by RJ.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 3, 2010 11:46 PM CDT reply actions
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Nov 3, 2010 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey All,
WE HAPPY??
Following the game at work.
Thought we had it, then lost it, then had it, then lost it etc etc etc.
WE HAVE IT!!!!
Ok, lunch time.
Yikes! The lesser Lopez was -14 in 12 minutes of play. The Sons should have kept Amundson.
I never take the high road, but I tell other people to, that way there is more room for me on the low road.
I called that in the pre-game thread. Amundson didn’t have great stats (except for one game, I think) against the Spurs when the Suns swept us last year, but he was effective nonetheless, and I predicted (actually hoped) that the Suns would regret not trying to re-sign him.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Nash was visibly frustrated with Fropez. Especially after sitting on the bench and watching Hakim Warrick repeatedly finish off slick passes from Dragic with thundering dunks.
I expect to see Warrick on the floor with Nash from now on.
by doggydogworld on Nov 4, 2010 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Can we make a collective “We love you, RJ, no matter what (but especially when you transform into The Raging Duke Peanut)” letter?
I think he deserves it.
'Offensive rebounding' is a gross understatement of DeJuan Blair's skill. It is far beyond 'offensive' and should be qualified as 'Get The Hell Out of My Way Or I'll Tear Your Arms Off and Eat Your Babies' rebounding.
by Iullaby on Nov 3, 2010 11:50 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Sorta like WeNeedTiago.com?
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan
by TDzilla! on Nov 3, 2010 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Alright, which one of yous messed up PtR?
I never take the high road, but I tell other people to, that way there is more room for me on the low road.
Italics?
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Nov 4, 2010 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Rage broke PtR!
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 4, 2010 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions
we won, and we didn’t have Bonner and Hill yet. just think of it when they come back
Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan
Can’t we just trade Bonner for some magic beans? I heard a story about them… I think it turned out pretty good.
'Offensive rebounding' is a gross understatement of DeJuan Blair's skill. It is far beyond 'offensive' and should be qualified as 'Get The Hell Out of My Way Or I'll Tear Your Arms Off and Eat Your Babies' rebounding.
Little known fact: Matt Bonner keeps Magic Beans in his little red hair for safe keeping during and after every game of the regular season
he likes to put them on sammiches. :)
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Nov 4, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Great game. Jefferson, Duncan had monster games. Blair again had problems on offense most of the night, but he got rebounds, and in the fourth he finally made a few lay-ups. Hopefully that will get him going. Anderson and Splitter both made solid contributions. A really nice early road win, against a dastardly foe v
by quincyscott on Nov 3, 2010 11:55 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Splitter appears to be quite able to handle the NBA-game. Well done, sir!
'Offensive rebounding' is a gross understatement of DeJuan Blair's skill. It is far beyond 'offensive' and should be qualified as 'Get The Hell Out of My Way Or I'll Tear Your Arms Off and Eat Your Babies' rebounding.
I thought at 2 of his 3 fouls we bad calls, but, then again, I’m biased.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
I agree completely on the bad foul calls. The end of the third/beginning of the fourth was a joke. All sons calls, none for The Good Guys.
'Offensive rebounding' is a gross understatement of DeJuan Blair's skill. It is far beyond 'offensive' and should be qualified as 'Get The Hell Out of My Way Or I'll Tear Your Arms Off and Eat Your Babies' rebounding.
Yes, but they really have to iron out that shot of his. Everything else looks solid.
by quincyscott on Nov 3, 2010 11:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
RAGE not getting the love from the +/- gods. he had +8 while Blair had +9
Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan
That’s why i hate +/-. They are simply wrong.
by indiancharlie on Nov 4, 2010 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I’m out. Thank you, RJ.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Nov 3, 2010 11:56 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
RJ had 18 points in the 4th quarter! He was Dragic lite.
I never take the high road, but I tell other people to, that way there is more room for me on the low road.
by SinCitySpur on Nov 3, 2010 11:56 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
18 points in the 4th is never lite. He was Manu lite. Dragic owns the 3rd.
by SaSleepless on Nov 4, 2010 2:47 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Perfect example of the difficulties in using +/- to determine how someone plays: Blair was +9 and RJ was +8. Doesn’t seem fair to me.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
by bj1der on Nov 3, 2010 11:57 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Usually you need to carry in a per score or efficiency score along with that to help tie it all together. But nothing can replace being able to see the game.
True, but the popcornmachine.net site that greyberger turned us onto in a recent FanPost is sometimes even better than just watching the game. It proved to me where +/- doesn’t adequately capture what’s really going on. I use it to figure out which players are on the floor during extended runs (both for and against the team) and it’s made me rethink some assumptions I had just from watching the games and looking at the box scores afterwards. It’s a very powerful tool.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions
If I’ve sussed out their naming convention, this link should take us to tonight’s game’s gameflow once they crunch the numbers and get it up.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Oops, that was their box score link. This is the gameflow link… studying it now.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Popcornmachine is awesome. Terrible time-waster, though.
by doggydogworld on Nov 4, 2010 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I’m out guys. Great win. Great times. Glad y’all (continue) to enjoy my MS Paint skills.
Peace!
'Offensive rebounding' is a gross understatement of DeJuan Blair's skill. It is far beyond 'offensive' and should be qualified as 'Get The Hell Out of My Way Or I'll Tear Your Arms Off and Eat Your Babies' rebounding.
Hi Everyone! Has the game started yet?
Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.
yes and it has ended at the same time….oh the paradox of life
Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan
Yeah, I’m still smiling. When did mutant RJ step out of the inter-dimensional portal to replace the regular one?
I bet it was a very fun night for you. :)
With all due respect, gentlemen, we're not as crazy as she is.
I needed it after this state decided to stick its collective head further up its own you-know-what yesterday. Your state did good, I saw.
We’ve got a nice balance. One thing I like about CO is that most people don’t vote straight party – they actually take the time to consider the candidates/issues. Heck, even Denver voters were smart enough not to pass Initiated Ordinance 300. And yes, it’s okay to laugh.
With all due respect, gentlemen, we're not as crazy as she is.
Good night everyone. I promise to write about the game tomorrow night, when I have time. Epic, epic win.
You were at the game, yes? Glad for your help. :)
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Glad that the ‘hex’ you were worried about casting on the Spurs seems to have been broken! :)
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
In other W.C. news, the Clippers ambushed OKC and Dallas just squeaked by Denver.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 12:33 AM CDT reply actions
for some cosmic reason, i woke up an hour later than I usually do (which is about noon here), and missed this game. i wonder why.
even more interesting, i had -1 on the spurs. rage probably, maybe, might have, could have, possibly, theoretically won it for me.
but i didnt see it, so it didnt happen. for all i know we were up five and nash threw a full court heave with 0.3 to go. ignorance IS bliss.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
Also, I’m not sure I understand why Neal played so few minutes… was it because Pop was concerned that J.Rich would light him up, and therefore decided to play Temple instead? Or because the game was so tight and he needed Parker and Ginobili to log heavy minutes? Anyone know?
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 12:36 AM CDT reply actions
one of pop’s experiments. our almost leading scorer the last game, to barely played..
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Nov 4, 2010 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Pop is so unpredictable.
Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan
Without Hill, Neal loses some luster when Pop is thinking defense.
Temple is the defensive guard and also got extra time because Parker was in foul trouble. Manu took on the majority of Hill’s ball distribution duties though.
Honestly, the Suns played defense on Neal well when he was off the ball. They know what he can do. I think that’s partly why his stay was short timed. He got off a shot or two, but Suns made sure he didn’t see daylight, which was smart.
Spurs tried to stay bigger with Temple/Anderson/RJ/Manu aside from Parker.
Also, keep in mind that Gentry is more defensive oriented and Neal just went off as well. He’s in there to shoot.
Thanks, good points.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions
OK, I got some things right and some wrong.
The bad stuff first:
- I expected our bench to outplay theirs, but we were outscored 45-26. But in my defense, Warrick’s 19 points and 31:20 minutes on the floor makes him more of a starter than Turkey-Glue’s 6 pts. and 16:40; also, I expected Neal to be more of a factor off the bench.
- I was worried about Frye and Dragic, but they only combined for 11 points. And Childress added only 6 points and 2 rebounds.
- DeBeast didn’t have his breakout game (and he’s due).
- I suggested that Manu might best be the backup PG tonight, because of Hill’s injury, but he started anyway. That said, he had much of the ball-handling duties when Parker was resting.
The good stuff:
- I predicted back in the off-season that an aggressive RJ (I’ve been calling him RJ 2.0) could well be a match-up nightmare for some teams to defend. Tonight’s RJ was that guy.
- I suggested that Phoenix might regret not re-signing Amundson, and I think his disruptive energy could’ve helped the Suns.
- I wasn’t too worried about the Suns mid-range jumpers and the shot charts seem to bear me out. It could’ve been our defense, or just the way the ball bounced. Not sure if I was just lucky or if the Spurs defense played a major role.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 1:31 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I would say a healthy Bonner and Hill would have bolstered the bench.
Also, even though it doesn’t show in the numbers, McDyess was great. Tiago, in his 2nd game was good, especially for a second game.
And Temple actually wasn’t that bad. He still got beat a few times, but he stayed with Nash fairly well and didn’t pick up the touch fouls which Parker and Hill (playoffs) picked up while playing him. A few times he went under the screen and got killed though.
In the stretches when Temple was on the floor, the Suns reeled off runs of 5-0, 12-3, 5-0 again, 13-4, 8-4, and 6-1 against the Spurs. His units had no runs against the Suns. His +/-, understandably, was a team-low -12.
Now, defense is a team deal, and it’s certainly unfair to assign all the responsibility for those Suns runs to one player. But it looked to me that Temple wasn’t able to stop Nash on a night when Nash wasn’t shooting particularly well, and given that he was playing instead of Neal for his better defense, I think it might’ve been worth giving Neal a try.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 1:50 AM CDT up reply actions
In Temple’s defense, when he played with Duncan, he did better on Nash. He did get killed by Goran as well. But no one could stop him. I’m almost sure that most of his -12 came against Dragic.
Nope. It was slightly more Dragic than Nash, but both led monster runs against units of which Temple was a part.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 2:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Yo tuna, check your gmail. Dropped you something.
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by silverandblack_davis on Nov 4, 2010 2:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, our second unit was tagged with a 12-3 run against them at the beginning of the 2nd quarter by the Suns’ second unit. Our starters, otoh, put a 17-4 run against the Suns’ starter at the beginning of the 3rd quarter that should have been decisive. It wasn’t, partly due to some Phoenix runs that were against some two-starter/three-bench units, so it took that 8-0 run by the Fantastic Four plus Dice late in the 4th to win the game.
Interestingly, the popcornmachine’s gameflow chart doesn’t show the 9-2 run in which RJ made three straight triples.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions
popcornmachine’s gameflow chart doesn’t show the 9-2 run in which RJ made three straight triples.
He shows the final 6-0 part of that run. I don’t know how his algorithm decides when a run starts and stops.
by doggydogworld on Nov 4, 2010 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions
oh goody, my fix for the italics run amuck (sp?) seems to have worked.
Now if I can only remember what I did and try to fix it above….
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 2:36 AM CDT up reply actions
ugh, not my fix attempts above have undone these fixes. have to try again below
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 2:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I asked Popovich for specifics on some of Richard Jefferson’s offseason drills. His response? “None of your business.” #lovethatguy
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by ojsimpsondidit on Nov 4, 2010 2:42 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Trying one last time to get those darned italics from running amuck, then I’m moving on to posting something better…
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 2:45 AM CDT reply actions
Damn RJ just put a smile on my face and the last three that he had to give as the lead,I just know it was going in.And tony had +10 in the box score but I can say he played atrocious defense and on offense he had some questionable shots.I think we really need to improve our D and Timmeh is back,now it is up for Blair to stop over doing things and go back to the ‘09-’10 Blair.And let’s just hope GHill can rust it off after 10 games after his injury,the pre-season and 2 games in the reg season wasn’t that good.And for RJ,keep it up,Neal will be a better is not going to be Mason and JA is someone to be proud of in the defensive end of the court and he sure does can shoot it.Tiago is very good at hustling but I can see his stroke in the FT line and yeah it’s so Spurs like,well if he kinda adjust himself with the game and get accustomed to it by 30 games or after all-star break then he can surely help cause I’ve seen 2 or 3 plays where he kinda wanders or just standing there in the offensive end,not much PnR action with him.Overall we had a hell of a game,let’s admit it RJ bailed us out,our bench was outplayed but I guess that not much though,Warrick was ala Apostrophe and nash despite the 8-22,I kinda feel that Tony’s defense wasn’t enough and thank God Temple played some nice D against Nash and(I guess we need a new Bruce-esque ’cause they are making a new Nash) Goran was there to eat us alive,nice D on JRich by Manu.I guess what we lack right now is defense and needs to be tighten up and some of our guys back into their old or much improve form then we can surely ball with anybody in the league.Nice win.Gotta thank the peanut man.
"I cry,but everyone will cry if I'm in the NBA"-Adam Morrison.I know now why fans cry when they see him on the floor.
not much mention about the solid minutes and production tiago provided last night. he is getting his NBA legs rather quickly, i think.
otherwise +1 to everyone else who talked about the offensive firepower, tim, RJ, turnovers and how nice it was to beat a tough team on the road.
While Tiago hasn’t quite earned a starting spot, Blair seems to be losing his. Though I’d consider leaving Blair in if Charlotte were next, I think Houston might cause problems if he were in. McDyess has perhaps earned the starter’s role, but I think the Spurs are better off with him coming off the bench. Since Yao will be playing limited minutes as well, I think I’d go ahead and give Tiago the start and have him in the game whenever Yao is in the game.
I think its too early to pull Blair. Give him a full 10-15 games before you start evaluating. Remember, most of his minutes last year came against backups, the kid is just 21, and he’s still adjusting. Give him time and see what happens.
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by SpursfanSteve on Nov 4, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Blair had a nice first quarter against Houston in the first exhibition game with about 8 points and 4 rebounds. Later on he had consecutive shots blocked by Yao. It’s likely easier to make adjustments to a 6’7" center as an opponent than a 7’4" center. Blair is not going to adjust his height, but it might boost his confidence if he has a good game against Houston’s backups.
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Just an FYI for everyone, if you use tags in a comment, make sure to close them or weird things can happen on the interwebs.
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[/em] I was trying to fix it with a closing tag in my reply, but it stopped working after a while. :)
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Ooops used a [] instead of a <>
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Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 4, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
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