Game 13 Recap: Rebounds? We don't need no stinkin rebounds.
Game 13, Vs. Orlando: Spurs 106-97 (Record 12-1) RAGE: +3
We've just dialed it to 11, amigos. How long is this thing gonna go? We'll discuss that in a minute. A couple things first.
I saw this website where it ranks NBA players based on their basic stats (points, rebounds, assists, etc) and assigns each stat a physical characteristic on an alien-like body. Head size represents shots taken, with the width representing field goal percentage. The narrower the head, the worse you shoot. Leg length represents total rebounds. Arm length is blocks. Hand size is steals. Eye size is assists and eye width is assist to turnover ratio, with narrowness being good and width being bad. Dwight Howard's eyes stretch literally wider than his head. Mouth size represents technicals, so Pops Mensah-Bonsu had a mouth bigger than his entire body.
It seems silly at first, but eventually you start to get it and it becomes kind of addictive. I'm just glad other body parts weren't involved, because I'd hate to think what they would use to rank injuries when it came to Greg Oden's alien avatar.
And what physical characteristic would you use to measure clutch scoring? You see where I'm going with this, right? Anyway, it begins here, so go nuts with this thing.
Also, I was messing around on basketball-reference.com. Did you know Manu's 14th among active players in career PER and 32nd all time? Well he is. And the Spurs have the second, eighth and ninth players all time in Win Shares per minute.
Before the jump, since the three pointer is such a big part of our offense now and played a major role in the win, I thought why not remember one of the most famous three pointers in Spurs history?
Let's see Dwight Howard do that. (via DIEWITODJproductions)
The Spurs offense is officially legit, kids. This isn't a fluke, an anomaly, a blip or a hot streak. What we're seeing is the real deal. This IS the 2010-2011 San Antonio Spurs. This IS how they're going to play all year. Barring injury, IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE. Whether the folks at ESPN notice or not, the Spurs are gonna be raining buckets all year long, and it's gonna be sweet.
Orlando came into the game allowing a league-best 90.3 points and the Spurs torched them for 106. They did this in a regulation, 48-minute game in which they only had three offensive boards, just 11 fast break points, 10 off Magic turnovers and 23 free throw attempts. They shot a perfectly ordinary 49.4% from the floor.
Does not compute, right?
Well, 12-of-19 three pointers is your pick to click. Again, as I said before, the reason the Spurs shoot so well from three, besides having the shooters, is that they have the five necessary ingredients you need in the modern NBA.
1. The drive and kick guys, with Manu and Tony.
2. A post guy who can draw doubles and pass effectively from them in Tim.
3. Shooters who aren't selfish and are willing to swing the ball for better shots. All our guys do this, to various degrees. Some do it to a fault.
4. A big who can stretch the floor, forcing reluctant fours to guard him out there and opening lanes for the aforementioned drive and kick guys. Pretty much why Rocket isn't working at a Subway somewhere.
5. If all else fails, a perimeter guy who can create his own three point shot off the dribble, which we have in Manu.
The Spurs are the one of two teams that has all five ingredients, with the Lakers being the other. Pau Gasol is their post guy, Lamar Odom is the shooting big and Kobe, obviously, can pull up and fire from anywhere. I don't think they rotate it as well as we do, and some of their guys aren't as pure shooters as our guys are (like Ron Artest and Matt Barnes), but they have more guys who can make 'em.
The Celtics lack that shooting big. The Madge don't pass it too well and Vince Carter isn't particularly good at driving and kicking or shooting off the dribble. Miami doesn't have a post guy or a big who can shoot. OKC doesn't have a post guy. Dallas doesn't have a post guy or anyone who can create his own. Utah just flat out lacks the shooters.
Like Manu said, they're probably not going to shoot 44% as a team from three the whole season. Bonner won't shoot it 69%, RJ won't finish 46% and even The Philandering Frenchman will clank a couple when it's all said and done. The numbers aren't important. What matters is that they've got the formula, the necessary ingredients and the talent to do it.
Eventually people will sell out and taking the three from them come hell or high water. When that happens it will be up to the Big Three to have their way in the lane and for RJ, Rocket and Hill to pump fake and drive for lay-ups and floaters. If they "play the right way," it is virtually impossible for them to not get a high percentage shot virtually every time down the floor. They're like the Philadelphia Eagles of the NBA with all these weapons, but without that whole messy ex-con dog murderer fella.
With Tony and Manu playing at such a high level -- the best back court in the NBA rank 9th and 11th in PER, respectively -- it seems to me you'd have to catch the role players on a real bad night to beat the Spurs these days. If RJ doesn't get you, Bonner does. If Rocket doesn't have it going, Hill finds his stroke. Or Neal. Or somebody like Blair comes up with a double-double and gets the team a bunch of second chances. It's always something. The team can afford a bad quarter (like Manu's atrocious third) or half from one of their stars because others step up.
And then there's Timmy on the other end to hold things together. 26 points by Howard might not sound like a great night defensively from Duncan (especially considering he only had four rebounds), but Howard took 16 shots to get it, which is four more than he averages per game and the second highest total of his season. We never doubled him, which hurt their three point game, and Timmeh also eliminated their other guys from finishing at the rim. Practically all of Orlando's non-Howard points came on jumpers.
The Spurs certainly didn't blow Orlando's doors off, and they weren't demonstrably better in any one area. They made three more threes, which could be attributed to luck. The eight extra free throws and seven fewer turnovers however weren't luck. That's the residue of us having more guys who can get to the line than they do and having more active defenders. Both Manu and Tony created turnovers from Jameer Nelson at the end to turn him into the goat of the game, which delighted me because he's a punk. Who the hell does he think he is popping Gino like that and standing over him? He got his just desserts.
Overall I wasn't too impressed by Orlando. They're talented but gimmicky. Howard is so big and wide he just bounces people off of him and the refs let him get away with it as long as he's not hacking away with his arms. Hardly anyone on the team can dribble and they like to trip people and throw sneaky elbows. I liked 'em a lot more when they had Hedo. I don't have a good feeling about them at all. I'm actually starting to like Chicago more and more.
The announcers said the game was a possible Finals preview, but honestly I think Orlando has even less of a chance of making it than we do. They've got Vince Carter for crying out loud. I actually like their bench a lot but Vinsanity and Q-Rich are dogs and will undermine them, while just about any decent point can kick Nelson's ass. Tony certainly did.
I think the most impressive thing about the Spurs run so far that has been overlooked is the way they've brought back their chameleon playing style, effortlessly mimicking whatever their opponents do, and beating them at their own game. They outgunned Indiana and out-shot the Suns and Magic. They had more energy in the second half than the youthful Thunder despite being on a SEGABABA. They played aggressive gambling defensive teams like Charlotte, the Clips and the Sixers and get more steals and fast breaks. They ran the Bulls off the floor in the third quarter and out-rebounded the rugged Jazz. The way the season's going Blair will get 25 boards against K-Love tomorrow and Timmeh will outscore Beasley 40-35.
It's just crazy impressive stuff, and entertaining as all hell, and really it all started out of nowhere, first at Phoenix with RJ hitting all those fourth quarter threes and then in a home against the beat up Rockets where we were down four with less than a minute to go. We won two games we wouldn't have last year and like that, a spark ignited. Again, I'm asking, how long does it go?
And I'm thinking silly things I shouldn't be thinking.
But so are you.
Your Three Stars:
3) Matt Bonner. With apologies to Timmeh, anytime Rocket shoots 100 % from downtown and leads the team in rebounds, he's gotta crack three stars. Now let's see Beast and Leg out-muscle Minny's bigs.
2) Tony Parker. Consistent all game, finished with 24 and 10, and made both of his threes, which kinda makes me nervous. His PER, assist rate, and shooting percentage are all at career-highs right now. Tony's just playing wicked awesome.
1) Manu Ginobili. Too generous for a guy who went 0-of-5 in the third quarter with three turnovers, but I think he got fouled on a layup there and I'm positive Rashard Lewis bothered him on that dunk attempt. No way Gino blows that unless he got hit. He was still brilliant in the other three quarters, especially the fourth, and his step-back three gave the team a lead they would never relinquish. His nine assists and six boards were both season highs and the way he's adjusted to all of the team's big men on the P&Rs and P&Ps has really made that the bread and butter off the offense.
Up Next: Wednesday, @ Minnesota (4-11). The T-Pups are second in the league in rebounding, 25th in assists and 30th in points allowed. By all rights we should have a laugher, but we seem to have tricky games with these guys up there for whatever reason. They have an intimidating front line with Love, Beasley and the rejuvenated Darko, but their guards STINK. I'm excited about the Love-Blair match-up and I hope Pop lets it happen, with some time for Tiago too.
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great recap. I too am thinking things I don’t want to admit to yet…
Also, I’m otu of the loop on this blog lately. Is there a reason your reviews don’t go on the front page any more? Just curious is all…
ask el jefe. Out of my hands.
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
by Aaronstampler on Nov 24, 2010 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
Stampler, do you think the Spurs offense has peaked already, or can it get even better ?
[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]
"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said
For the record (hard as it may be to imagine) I think the Spurs can improve, only because its so early in the season. Then again, people might start guarding us better, like you mentioned with the 3 ball.
[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]
"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said
I think individually there are things they can do better.
Tim can shoot a better percentage both from the field and the line, Blair can finish better around the rim, Manu can have a few less turnovers. I think right now neither Rocket nor Hill are shooting very well when they people rush out at them at the three point line and they have to pump fake and drive inside. Eventually (and soon) teams will try hard to take the three away, so they will have to be better at that.
Neal can definitely improve his shot selection. He was playing better when Anderson was healthy because they were competing for the same minutes, but now that he knows he’s the ninth guy for sure, he hasn’t been playing as intelligently (it was brutal watching him foul some other guy when Pop was screaming to foul Howard), and I think teams are really focusing on him not getting open looks from down town.
But collectively, I don’t think there is much room for improvement. 107 points or whatever we’re averaging is a lot. We’re playing faster, but it’s not exactly seven seconds or less Suns. Whatever gains certain guys make will be balanced out by drop-offs from others. It’s hard to see Tony playing at a 23.5 PER level all year, for example.
Like Pop and Manu, I think there’s more room for improvement on defense. The Spurs have no business losing any game they score over 105.
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
by Aaronstampler on Nov 24, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
Enjoyed as always! I will admit to screaming at Manu in the 3rd quarter after the third TO. I was ashamed of myself after the game. Can’t believe I could forget for one second that when Manu screws up, he will make it up and then some. That he is ten times harder on himself than anyone else could be. Heart of a champion, no doubt.
Timmy D .... enough said.
by Ms. Smith on Nov 24, 2010 8:23 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Ms. Smith
Yeah, I too was yelling at Manu for those three straight screw ups at the end of the 3rd … silly me. That fourth quarter was a thing of beauty and, of course, most especially Manu. Probably my favorite play was with 30+ second left to play when Manu reached in on Nelson’s drive to the basket and forced the ball off of his foot for a turnover. It was all over at that point and it was great payback for the punk-ass, bantam rooster posturing Nelson did after he charged into Manu earlier in the game. Living well, and winning games, is the best revenge indeed.
Can we get better. No doubt. But sometimes I wonder if CIA Pop doesn’t actually prefer that we play mediocre defense during the first half so that the opponent doesn’t make any significant adjustments at half-time. Then, when the defensive screw starts tightening in the 3rd and 4th quarters, it’s too late to adjust, frustration sets in and victory is ours. Probably giving Pop too much credit (just as we Americans give the CIA way too much credit, truth is they’re a major fuck up, but that’s for another blog). Anyway, great recap Stamp. Keep ’em coming.
Even I, who has a ton of respect (and fear) for the kinds of things CIA Pop might do to win, wouldn’t go so far to think that he’d prefer to play badly in the first half to give the opposing team an unwarranted confidence.
I think it’s really more a case of ‘pounding the rock’ — keep harassing the other team, turn up the pressure, they’ll eventually make a mistake. Keep running, eventually they’ll get tired and won’t be able to keep up. We’re deep one thru thirteen, so we can keep the pace high for as long as we want. Things like that.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 24, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
Janieannie’s picture of Manu, deliberately sitting by himself late in the 3rd quarter in order to gather himself and regain his mojo says it all to me:

As you said, you take both the good great and the bad with Manu… because with a winner like him, the great far surpasses the bad. He is who he is…. and that is what he does.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 24, 2010 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Stamp, great stuff as always. I’m slightly irked at something the Sports Idiot said yesterday in his chat. He said Manu is more injured than the Spurs brass is letting on and that the Spurs will fade at some point during the season. What is he talking about? Sure there will be a valley or two at some point during the season, but has he been watching Manu play this season. Manu is balling! Meh, let him and all the “experts” keep discounting that team in silver and black.
"There's a thin line between to laugh with and to laugh at." - Richard Pryor
I saw that and I made a point of not bringing it up because people have ripped me for mentioning him too much in my posts already.
At first I was worried about that comment but then I stopped and thought about it. If Manu was hurt, he wouldn’t be playing 33 mpg. Pop isn’t stupid. And Gino is still driving to the basket with regularity, and getting to the line. He looks as quick to me as last season.
I’m almost positive the only Spurs game Simmons has watched all year is when they played at the Clips. Maybe he checked them out when they were at OKC because of his crush on Durant, but I doubt it. He’s been off the Spurs bandwagon for a while now. Part of his recent ESPN contract, I think. “Here’s 1.5 million, but you’re not allowed to say anything nice about the Spurs ever. They’re ratings poison.”
If he was gonna hear some inside info, who would it be from? Mark Stein (an open Mavs fan, who is butthurt about last year) or Ric Bucher (who hates the Spurs). I wouldn’t worry about it.
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
by Aaronstampler on Nov 24, 2010 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
If he was gonna hear some inside info, who would it be from? Mark Stein (an open Mavs fan, who is butthurt about last year) or Ric Bucher (who hates the Spurs). I wouldn’t worry about it.
I’m sure it’s Bucher. He’s been running the “Manu is secretly hurt” as his lone commentary on the Spurs ever since they knocked out the Kobe-Shaq Lakers in Manu’s rookie year.
I made a point of not bringing it up because people have ripped me for mentioning him too much in my posts already.
I hope you weren’t thinking I was ripping you for the stuff you wrote about Simmons. If so, I’m sorry, that was not my intent.
In fact, I was eagerly anticipating your response to his latest inanity. Not sure you would top what you said you’d do to his book, but I figured it would be entertaining nonetheless.
Anyway, I wonder if Simmons has considered that if this is the way Manu plays when he’s hurt, what would happen if he was completely healthy. Does he really have that kind of respect for Ginobili’s ability?
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 24, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions
Rec’d to eleven straight wins (so far, and counting)… and because we’re now all afraid to say the silly things we’ve been thinking: 81-1 — the dream still lives.
I would add to the five elements you listed, defense. Not the kind of “funnel them into the bigs” D that we’d gotten used to, rather a “hands up and everywhere” style… hands in shooters’ faces, tipping and deflecting balls in passing lanes, blocking and altering shots near the rim, everywhere.
After 13 games, the Spurs are making, on average, nearly three more triples per game than opposing teams. That’s nearly nine points advantage per game, and the Spurs are outscoring opponents by just over nine points per game. They’re also more aggressive, and earning points that way…. nearly a five-point-per-game advantage in made FTs.
I especially enjoyed you pointing this out:
I think the most impressive thing about the Spurs run so far that has been overlooked is the way they’ve brought back their chameleon playing style, effortlessly mimicking whatever their opponents do, and beating them at their own game.
I noticed this was true in the Suns game but hadn’t thought about it since. When the Spurs start playing like this, they’re really fun to watch…. and I start thinking silly thoughts that are way too early to even consider seriously. One game at a time.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 24, 2010 4:12 PM CST reply actions

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