Game #13 Recap: Spurs 106, Magic 97 - Black Sorcerers of the South win again
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Nov 22, 2010 11:04 PM CST
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Back before the cruel realization of my lack of talent, I dreamed of being a great magician; the mysterious cape, the endless universe inside the black hat, the lovely assistant and those long road trips. Yes, I dreamed once.
And I believe it is time to dream of wondrous things again.
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Pre-Game: I am the Amazing Manudini!
The Spurs rolled into this game at unprecedented 11-1. Half of the NBA universe expected yet another traditional slow start from the Spurs while the other half just patiently perched themselves above Tim Duncan’s dying body. Although the Spurs have benefited from a weak schedule early on, they have knocked out a few impressive victories against OKC, CHI, and UTH. Spurs fans and the rest of the NBA will soon have a good read on the Silver and Black with ORL, DAL, and NO in the final weeks of November.
The blueprint to defeating the Magic seems obvious; go right at Howard on offense, open up your shooters, and protect the perimeter on defense. Easier said than done. The Magic are holding opponents to a league-low 90.3 points per game and have only allowed 100+ points twice this season. While Orlando is not particularly efficient on offense, they are skilled in controlling the pace. The Magic have the talent and the experience to blow the doors of the arena and also to win those close games. San Antonio needs 48 solid minutes for this one.
Speaking of blowing the doors off, I’m sure fans of both teams remember the last time these two met. Ginobili led the Spurs to a 112-100 victory with an aggressive 43 points.
Can we get a repeat? Magic time. Game time. You ready? YOU READY?!?!?! MAGIC TIME!! GAME TIME!!
Pop just LOVES Arsenio Hall
Spurs Starting Five: Parker, Ginobili, Jefferson, Duncan, Blair
Magic Starting Five: Nelson, Carter, Richardson, Lewis, Howard
1st Quarter – Pick a card, any card. Preferably the bent one.
- 11:47 Wide open 3Pt for Lewis. Greeeeeeeat.... ORL 3 - SAS 0
- 11:20 Ginobili counters with a 3PT ORL 3 - SAS 3
- 11:09 Bonner in for Blair. You won't see Blair on Lewis again tonight.
- 10:43 Bounce pass from Manu to Duncan for a layup. ORL 3 - SAS 5
- 10:29 Another Lewis 3PT
- 10:11 Bonner for 3PT. This game will be in the 1000s.
- 9:45 Parker driving layup from open court run. ORL 6 - SAS 10
- 9:21 After tech FT (def 3 sec) Howard gets post move dunk over Duncan. ORL 9 - SAS 10
- 9:07 Parker gets another driving layup. Lanes look open for guards tonight.
- 8:42 Ginobili slows up Howard on transition defense and then passes to duncan for easy layup. Manu's awareness is in incredible. ORL timeout. ORL 9 - SAS 14
- 8:23 Duncan contests Carter tear drop. Howard gets rebound only to be blocked by Duncan. I thought Duncan was old and stuff?
- 8:04 Blair drives and gets fouled. Makes 1 of 2. ORL 9 - SAS 15
- 7:47 Nelson hits jumper off screen. That will be there all night if he gets hot. ORL 11 - SAS 15
- 7:02: Duncan gets nice block on Carter but called for foul. Meh... Carter makes both FT. ORL 13 - SAS 15
- 6:15 ORL misses jumper. Howard is screaming "He's holding me!" on the 3rd possession in a row.
- 5:38 After being blocked by Duncan, Howard gets a put back. ORL 15 - SAS 15
- 5:37 Howard gets technical (finally). Hill hits technical. ORL 15 - SAS 16
- 5: Parker to Duncan for layup. Magic interior defense is lacking. ORL 15 - SAS 18
- 5: Nelson off screen hits jumper. Spurs needs to tighten up screen defense ORL 17 - SAS 18
- 4: Nelson hits a 3PT. Not good ORL 20 - SAS 18
- 4:10 Duncan picks up his second foul. Howard hits one. ORL 21 - SAS 18
- 3:46 Parker hits jumper. Parker playing hard tonight. 6 PTs and 3 ASTS already. ORL 21 - SAS 20.
- 3:36 Nelson hits quick jumper. See my comment at 7:47. Pop calls a timeout. ORL 23 - SAS 20
- 3:00 Parker takes it baseline to baseline and earns a pair of FT. Frenchie hits one. ORL 23 - SAS 21
- 2:46 Howard travels while trying to post up on Dice. Spurs need to make him post far out.
- 2:06 Duhon hits a jumper off of screen. ORL 25 - SAS 21
- 1:47 Hill breaks Redicks ankles and gets easy layup. ORL 25 - SAS 23
- 1:26 Redick hits open 3PT ORL 28 - SAS 23
- 1:05 McDyess hits jumper. Howard will not want to defend that. ORL 28 - 25
- 0:29 Redick slices Spurs defense and hits jumper. ORL 30 - SAS 25
- 0:04 Parker drives and kicks out to Hill for corner 3PT. ORL 30 - SAS 28
Both teams are shooting efficiently to start the game. Orlando is getting the bulk of their scoring from screens and San Antonio doesn't seem to interested in adjusting. Nelson is on pace for a huge night with 9 PTS, 4-5 FG, 1-1 3PT. San Antonio will have to be careful with Duncan who picked up two early fouls in this one. McDyess seems to be doing a good job against Howard by not allowing him to post up deep. This may be the match up of the night. Orlando's interior defense is horrible so expect Manu and Tony to have a great stat line by night's end.
End of 1st, 30 - 28 Orlando Up
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HOWARD REBOUND! HOWARD DUNK! HOWARD SMASH!
2nd Quarter – Hey, Carter! It isn't time for the vanishing act yet.
- 11:44 Ginobili takes it to the glass. ORL 30 - SAS 30
- 11:28 Redick hits jumper. ORL 32 - SAS 30
- 10:45 Defense tries to cheat on Bonner. The Ginger hits a 3PT to give Spurs lead. Van Gundy calls timeout. ORL 32 - SAS 33
- 10:24 Another Magic screen creates points. ORL 34 - SAS 33
- 10:09 McDyess gets a nice assist from Manu and lays it in. ORL 34 - SAS 35
- 9:33 Bad transition defense puts Duncan on Duhon. Duhon hits 3PT. ORL 37- SAS 35
- 8:53 Duncan smashes Duhon tear drop. It was purty.
- 8:18 Manu hits world's highest tear drop. ORL 37 - SAS 37
- 8:01 Gorat tips in Bass miss. Spurs not blocking out very well. ORL 39 - SAS 37
- 7:13 Hill pump fakes defender, steps in, and hits jumper. Great move. ORL 39 - SAS 39
- 7:02 Carter gets 3rd foul (charge). Hasn't been a factor though.
- 6:01 Pop calls timeout. The last two plays have broken down. Orlando has also turned the ball over 3 times this quarter. A proper adjustment here could really give Spurs some control on this game.
- 5: 54 Jefferson misses 3PT. Bad stat night but he is hustling and playing hard.
- 5:33 Howard scores over Timmy. Duncan won't be able to do much against Howard's strength. ORL 41- SAS 39
- 5:16 Ginobili hits jumper off screen. ORL 41 - SAS 41
- 4:01 Parker earns FT trip and hits both. ORL 41 - SAS 43
- 3:42 McDyess back on Howard but can't stop turn around hook. ORL 43 - SAS 43
- 3:17 McDyess too high on Howard. Nelson throws alley-oop to Howard. ORL 45 - SAS 43
- 3:01 Parker steps back and drains it. ORL 45 - SAS 45
- 2:36 Howard fouled by McDyess on tough hook shot. This is the best we can do against him but Splitter has to see some minutes against Howard sometime tonight. Redick appears done for now (hand pain). Howard hits one FT. ORL 46 - SAS 45
- 2:19 Pietrus fouls a driving Ginobili. Manu hits both FT. ORL 46 - SAS 47
- 2:01 Lewis hits jumper while double teamed. ORL 48 - SAS 47
- 1:37 Parker tear drop over Howard. ORL 48 - SAS 49
- 1:13 Bonner loses Bass. Bas with easy laup. ORL 50 - SAS 49
- 0:09 A driving Parker finds Ginobili who hits corner 3Pt and is fouled! Splitter enters game. FT good. ORL 50 - SAS 53
- 0:00 Poor defense by Splitter allows Nelson to hit last second jumper. ORL 52 - SAS 53
23-12 or +11. However you look at it, the Spurs are getting killed on the boards. San Antonio has no offensive rebounds yet in the game and although the Spurs are a team that focus more on the transition defense, San Antonio needs to box out better and earn some second chance opportunities.
Both teams are hot offensively but Orlando has been just a little bit sloppy with the ball (7 TO). The Spurs 51.3 % on the floor is great but how long can it last? If the shots start to miss, Orlando runs away with this. Lost in all of this is Tony and Manu's aggression in the lane. The two guards have 6 of the team's 8 FT points. This needs to continue in the second half. San Antonio will probably not double Howard too many times. The backcourt is shooting to well to leave open.
Even though they are down by 1, Orlando (to me) looks like the better team in this game. Lets see what half time adjustments Pop makes. I'm tired of watching Nelson jumpers off of screens.
Half Time Spurs 53, Magic 52
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3rd Quarter – I will now attempt to saw Stan Van Gundy in half.
- 11:39 Blair starts half (after 5 minutes in first) and gets a laup ORL 52- SAS 55
- 11:17 Richardson layup. ORL 54 - SAS 55
- 10:53 Nelson hits deep jumper. ORL 56 - SAS 55
- 10:42 Nelson flattens Manu and walks over him. No technical somehow.
- 10:12 Jefferson drives and earns foul. Earns first points with both FT. ORL 56 - SAS 57
- 9:58 Howard drives into Duncan and Jefferson and makes layup. Howard earns FT. ORL 59 - SAS 57
- 9:37 Duncan takes it right at Howard. ORL 59 - SAS 59
- 9:13 Duncan takes it right at Howard again. ORL 59 - SAS 61
- 8:45 Carter takes it right at Duncan and gets foul. Duncan now with 3 fouls. Warm up Dice. ORL 61 - SAS 61
- 8:23 San Antonio is defending the screen somewhat better... Nelson clanks 3PT after both defenders take off in the direction he normally he runs.
- 8:05 Duncan draws in perimeter defender and then passes to Jefferson for 3PT. Magic call a timeout. ORL 61 - SAS 64.
- 6:42 After some sloppy basketball, 2 straight TO and bad passing, Magic finally score off Carter layup. Pop calls a timeout. Spurs are getting wide open looks but missing. If this keeps up, San Antonio will earn some breathing room. ORL 63- SAS 64.
- 6:31 Carter gets 4th foul while trying to defend Hill drive. Redick back in (shocker).
- 6:05 After Duncan grabs Spurs first offensive rebund, Howard fouls Duncan on turn-around jumper. Duncan hits 1/2 FT. ORL 63 - SAS 65
- 4:54 Hoard gets deep into paint. Easy layup. ORL 65 - SAS 65
- 4:32 Parker hits a rare 3PT ORL 65 - SAS 68
- 4:10 Magic go back to Howard. Another easy two against Duncan. ORL 67 - SAS 68
- 3:35 Parker drives paint and earns a trip. We need to keep this up. Magic are constantly out of place on quick drives. ORL 67 - SAS 69
- 3:20 Bonner is fouled while rebounding. Spurs are shooting FT for the rest of quarter. ORL 67 - SAS 70
- 2:54 Spurs rotation on defense is much better.
- 2:32 Parker splits defense for a layup. ORL 67 - SAS 72
- 1:53 Howard fouled by Bonner after great defense by McDyess. Howard hits 1/2. ORL 68 - SAS 72
- 1:27 Howard scores off Manu tunrover. ORL 70 - SAS 72.
- 1:01 Hill turns it over. Pietrus hits 3PT. ORL 73 - SAS 72
- 0:42 Manu turns it over. Pietrus 3PT. See a trend here????? ORL 76 - SAS 72
- 0:32 Hill ends turnover streak with tear drop. ORL 76 - SAS 74
- 0:28 Neal fouls Duhon on purpose. Pop wanted Howard. Duhon hits 1/2 FT ORL 77 - SAS 74
- 0:00 No one comes to help Hill who is trapped in corner. Jacks up shot to end 3rd quarter. No good.
San Antonio played 9 good minutes of basketball in the 3rd quarter. Its a damn shame they decided to play hot potato with the ball in the final minutes. Poor decisions creates a 9-0 Orlando and leaves the Spurs down going into the 4th. San Antonio did play tight defense at times but still don't have an answer for Howard. If the mental errors go away and the perimeter defense returns, San Antonio should regain the lead with they way they played throughout most of the 3rd.
End of 3rd, 77 - 74 Orlando up.
Polish defense. What did you expect?
4th Quarter – For my final act, I will pull a defensive stop out of my as... er, hat.
- 11:16 Manu drives in for a layup after Bass turnover. ORL 77 - SAS 76
- 10:52 Ginobili steals pass, passes to Dice for a quick jumper. ORL 77 - SAS 78.
- 10:34 Orlando turns it over for the 3rd time in the quarter (Hill steal).
- 9:48 Redick hits jumper off of nice step back. ORL 79 - SAS 78
- 9:30 Bonner hits a 3PT. ORL 79 - SAS 81
- 9:10 Bass takes it right at Bonner ORL 81- SAS 81
- 8:23 Howard rebounds ball over five Spurs and is fouled.
- 7:55 Bonner floater misses but a tip from Dice to Bonner creates 2 PTs. ORL 81 - SAS 83
- 7:38 Lewis jumper makes it ORL 83 - SAS 83
- 6:13 Pietrus bails out Spurs with a foul on Jefferson. Both teams have gone cold.
- 6:04 Scratch That. Bonner hits deeeeep 3PT. 4/4 from 3PT range tonight. ORL 83 - SAS 86
- 5:42 Carter drives through entire state of Texas for layup but comes up limping. Spurs timeout. ORL 85 - SAS 86
- 4:55 Parker with nice jumper. Carter goes to locker room. ORL 85 - SAS 88
- 4:48 Bonner fouls Howard on purpose to get Manu in game. No FT.
- 4:37 Nelson hits jumper. ORL 87 - SAS 88.
- 4:15 Nelson steals ball and passes to Pietrus for 3PT ORL 90 - SAS 88
- 3:53 Parker hits another 3PT. Damn. ORL 90 - SAS 91
- 3:25 Howard muscles one in over Duncan. ORL 92 - SAS 91
- 3:09 Jefferson nails a corner 3PT!! Spurs on fire from deep. ORL 92 - SAS 94
- 2:30 Lewis hits 3PT over Bonner. ORL 95 - SAS 94
- 2:09 Manu knocks down a 3PT to keep the trend alive! Spurs are 5/5 from deep in the quarter. ORL 95 - SAS 97
- 1:55 Great defense causes Nelson to lose ball out of bounds.
- 1:43 Pietrus blocks Jefferson dunk. Magic wants to run.
- 1:25 Bonner rebounds Pietrus 3PT miss. This is the first miss from deep for either team this quarter.
- 1:07 Parker finds Duncan deep for easy layup! Parker now has a double-double. Magic timeout. ORL 95 - SAS 99
- 0:49 Jefferson and Manu play great defense and cause Magic turnover. Ball is kicked out by Nelson.
- 0:32 Manu gets into the lane, hits floater, and is fouled by Pietrus. That was HORRIBLE defense by Orlando. FT good. ORL 95 - SAS 102.
- 0:27 Redick misses open 3PT. Duncan fouled after rebound.
- 0:27 Duncan hits 2/2. ORL 95 - SAS 104
- 0:19 Howard gets easy dunk. ORL 97 - SAS 104
- 0:16 Parker makes a really bad pass. Magic shoot quick 3Pt but miss. Parker fouls Howard (push off).
- 0:03 Richardson misses layup. Ginobili rebounds and is fouled.
- 0:03 Manu ends this thing with 2/2 FT. ORL 97 - SAS 106
The Spurs 51.3 % on the floor is great but how long can it last?
Apparently as long as they damn well please. Spurs finish game at 49.4% overall from the floor while 63.2% (12-19) from deep. Thats all you really need to know.... Jebus.
Spurs Win!! 106 - 97.
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The Spurs' Kung-Fu was just a little bit better tonight.
Post-Game: Ta-da!
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Magic’s Three Stars
- Dwight Howard: 26 PTS, 11-16 FG, 4-7 FT, 18 REB
- Jameer Nelson: 15 PTS, 7-14 FG, 5 AST
- Rashard Lewis: 14 PTS, 5-10 FG, 3-3 3PT
Spurs’ Three Stars
- Manu Ginobili: 25 PTS, 8-17 FG, 3-7 3PT, 6-6 FT, 6 REB, 9 AST. He also clinched the game in the end.
- Tony Parker: 24 PTS, 9-15 FG, 2-2 3PT, 4-6 FT, 10 AST
- Matt Bonner: 15 PTS, 5-8 FG, 4-4 3PT, 7 REB, 2 AST
Best of the Best from the Best
Anybody seen the "best defense of the league" from Orlando so far ?
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Game Recap.
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We changed the thread? Damn. What happened?
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Five Quick Shots: I don’t have time for your "plays."
- We may be talking about a 3PT record (team or NBA) with Bonner by season's end.
- It takes .05 seconds to end up in Pop's doghouse. Right, Blair?
- Jefferson showed great heart and determination throughout this game.
- We can only have 3 names on the NBA all-star ballot? This needs to be reviewed.
- So the Spurs are now 12-1 and have beaten several "good teams." Predicted national view? Old, boring, slow, and Duncan is a rotting corpse.
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Next Game: San Antonio Spurs @ Minnie-so-ta Timberwolves --- Wednesday, Nov 24. 7:00 PM Spurs Time (CT)
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"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Nov 22, 2010 11:08 PM CST reply actions
Thanks in advance for the recap, Hirschof. I’ll read it tomorrow.
Now for the question of the ages: who’s streak ends first? Our Spurs’ 11 game winning streak, or the Clippers’ 9 game losing streak?
Keep in mind the Clippers are playing a close game right now against the NOOCH.
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Nov 22, 2010 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
I write these as the game goes on. I try to capture some of the flow for the people who can’t catch the game.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Nov 22, 2010 11:11 PM CST reply actions
I leave the in-depth/review stuff to Stampler.
I can’t touch that talent level with this brain.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Nov 22, 2010 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
That’s not true,simply a different style. Yours are funnier and have to be read with care or something will be missed ie:" I will now attempt to saw Stan Van Gundy in half." That would have been funny anytime but at the beginning of the 2nd half recap.
by indiancharlie on Nov 23, 2010 7:25 AM CST up reply actions
Fine job, kind sir. Kudos for the Tony-like quickness in writing this recap.
:)
by day_late_friend on Nov 22, 2010 11:18 PM CST reply actions
I think in the first half, when our offense and defense looked shaky, it was Tony’s speed and penetration that kept us in the game. Based on the first half I thought they had the momentum.
It wasn’t the same Magic team in the second half, though – they stopped going to Howard, who was causing us tremendous problems. A wide-open game with transition threes and scrambling for turnovers… it turns out that’s our kind of game now.
The thing about this team is it seems except in our one loss we have a way of making stars disappear in the second half of the game. Howard only had 3 shots in the 4 and one was with 15 seconds left and the game already decided. That was after him getting mostly what he wanted in the first. I feel that we have done that with almost all of the game – i remember thinking that KD was a non factor late in the OCK game also.
I guess i am just making the correlation that our defense changed so that they did not want to go to him. I just don’t understand how your best player only gets 3 shots in the final 12 min. I don’t think Manu or Tony (the best players right now for the spurs – TD will be there hopefully in the playoffs) would allow themselves only 3 shots. Now i know its different because they are guards but late in the game Manu calls for the ball. Some of it may have been the Magic and also Howard not asking for it, but i think our defense on him stepped up in the end of the game.
by SpurInDallas on Nov 22, 2010 11:38 PM CST up reply actions
I’ll have to watch the 4th Q again to be sure, but I suspect ball-denial by the Spurs.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 23, 2010 1:07 AM CST up reply actions
Great recap! Amazine that you got it up so fast, esp. after such an insane game.
Nice of you to give stars to the Magic, they deserved them. Unbelievable game, for both teams. Can’t say that the Magic lost, it’s more that the Spurs won. Orlando has nothing to be ashamed about, they looked like they could/might/would win until the game clock had only a few minutes left on it.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 22, 2010 11:29 PM CST reply actions
The speed alone of how this was posted deserves a rec. Thanks. Hirsch. I’ll re-read this when I watch the replay later.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 22, 2010 11:30 PM CST reply actions
Davis got League Pass, so I assume he’ll watch the replay from there. The truth is, ever since I got it, I prefer using it over cable since it’s much cleaner and sharper on a big HD screen.
Yes, ILP. Makes life easier. BTV got the boring Celtics-Hawks game this morning.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 22, 2010 11:57 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t have enough money for ILP. :curls into a fetal position and sobs:
:)
by day_late_friend on Nov 23, 2010 1:22 AM CST up reply actions
If somehow we can find out if multiple users can log on to one account, we Flips can share.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 23, 2010 1:44 AM CST up reply actions
Ooh, that would be great, indeed.
:)
by day_late_friend on Nov 23, 2010 2:05 AM CST up reply actions
I decided to get it after I checked the local schedule and saw Stern’s hatin’ on the Spurs. Around here, they say it’s selling your soul to the Devil. With the Spurs current, Best Start Ever, play we’re seeing, it looks to be a soul well sold.
Agreed. It’s much more fun to watch replays of wins!
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 23, 2010 3:03 AM CST up reply actions
As long as you have compatible connections on your HD and your computer, it’ll work just like your monitor. The most common being HDMI and RGB.
Damn, TD, you’re a techie. I’m too scared to explore that chit.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 23, 2010 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
agreed… thanx 4 reminding me to rec it.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 23, 2010 12:25 AM CST up reply actions
Why isn’t Splitter gettin some playing time? Is he injured or having a hard time adjusting to the system? Not a fan, but as an argentinian, allways nice to see manu get a W!
Hope to get and answer. Nice blog you guys have here!
After seeing the Cavs game he clearly isn’t injured. I do wish he would get more PT, but Bonner has been on a hot streak so it is difficult to question Pop’s decision. That said, if Blair continues to be a liability on the defensive end perhaps Splitter will get more minutes at his expense? I really like Blair, but I want to see more Splitter!!!
by slipstream21 on Nov 22, 2010 11:50 PM CST up reply actions
It just caught my atention to see those DNP. I’ve seen him play in Spain and with the brazilian team and he is really gonna help you when he gets his minutes. Altohugh Bonner is playing good right now, Splitter has so much more to offer, but as you say, I think is Blair’s minutes hes gonna take. Thanks for the quick answer.
Good luck and keep this nice streak going…
by Elgrangersan on Nov 23, 2010 12:04 AM CST up reply actions
And it is futile to decipher Pop’s mind as therein lies a convoluted maze of subtle misdirections, strategic machinations and some wine induced philosophical musings.
by TD21 on Nov 23, 2010 12:06 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
matchups, five quality bigs sharing minutes, and CIA Pop.
Not really satisfying answers, or answers at all, but you can take comfort in the fact that it’s a long season, and it’s only just started.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 23, 2010 1:10 AM CST up reply actions
It is a tight one! 89-88 clips in the fourth. It is amazing when the team with an NBA-worst record is giving a team with an NBA-best record this much trouble! Go clips!
by slipstream21 on Nov 22, 2010 11:52 PM CST up reply actions
Shoot. NOOCH on a 5-0 run. 93-89 with 2:03 left.
by slipstream21 on Nov 22, 2010 11:59 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks Hirschof, missed half of the game due to work. (And due to the fact that I’m having a heart-attack because of the intensity of the game..) But through your recap, i can say that it was a great game. I’ll definitely be watching its replay.
"The Spurs never go away. They’re the Freddy Krueger of the NBA. You turn around, and there they are again." - DP
Got it on now. Blake blew that freethrow!
by Ed (dfjmed) on Nov 23, 2010 12:01 AM CST up reply actions
Oh he’s a hero for them. Immediately their best player.
by Ed (dfjmed) on Nov 23, 2010 12:03 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, tied game, clips ball with 51 seconds!
by slipstream21 on Nov 23, 2010 12:02 AM CST up reply actions
Goooo Clips!!!
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 23, 2010 12:04 AM CST up reply actions
If she truly enjoys basketball, I doubt she’d be going to watch the Clippers.
Now, if she attended some college games down here, you might have a point. :)
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 23, 2010 1:12 AM CST up reply actions
UCLA and USC ball isn’t as exciting as it was a few years ago (since both lost all their players). The Clipps and Lakers are definitely better if you want basketball.
UCLA and USC are not the only college teams to watch in SoCal. Ever hear of the Aztecs?
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 23, 2010 1:49 AM CST up reply actions
I <3 Charlize.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 23, 2010 12:17 AM CST up reply actions
Have you seen Brandon Flowers’ Crossfire music video? She looks incredible and badass there.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 23, 2010 12:19 AM CST up reply actions
Here ya go, then! The lovely Charlize at tonight’s Slippers-Hornets game:
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 23, 2010 2:14 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Clips just won: 93-96
An it means we’re on top..Damn!
"The Spurs never go away. They’re the Freddy Krueger of the NBA. You turn around, and there they are again." - DP
Wooooooo!
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 23, 2010 12:16 AM CST up reply actions
And I’m pretty certain all they’re gonna talk about when this day ends is how the Heat lost, that they’re signing Dampier, yadda yadda yadda.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 23, 2010 12:18 AM CST up reply actions
I’m ok with that. For long time Spurs fans, tranquility at the top of the mountain is basketball bliss.
by TD21 on Nov 23, 2010 12:28 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
E-Gourd closin’ it!
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 23, 2010 12:19 AM CST up reply actions
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 23, 2010 12:22 AM CST up reply actions
OMG, I was watching the Clips on local FSN, willing them to win. Spurs stand alone atop the NBA.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 23, 2010 12:22 AM CST reply actions
And with that (NO) loss, Spurs are left standing atop the league. It is becoming harder and harder to stay under the radar. ::grin::
Last time Spurs had a winning streak longer than 11 games, they also won a title. Went 13 straight during 2006-07 campaign.
-McDonald.
Jus’ sayin’!
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Nov 23, 2010 12:27 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
One game at a time. Tpups next?
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 23, 2010 12:28 AM CST up reply actions
yyyyyyyyyyeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Nov 23, 2010 12:31 AM CST up reply actions
With Blair getting under 10 minutes and Bonner over 36, I’m wondering if there will be a change to the starting lineup for the Minnesota game. Minnesota has a lot of height in their lineup, with Beasley playing SF at 6’10". I would think Splitter would get a good number of minutes in the game, though I was surprised he got on 10 seconds tonight.
Bonner has perhaps earned the starting spot. Problem may be that if Blair comes out and drops down the rotation he may see very few minutes thereafter. That may be inevitable, as there are not many short centers for him to match up against.
Five quality bigs, not enough PT.
At this early stage of the season, I’m not looking so much for consistency in the rotation from Pop. Count on one of the bigs getting limutes or even a DNP-CD for any given game, but it won’t be the same one for every game. Maddening? Sure. But it’s CIA Pop we’re talking about here, folks. Splitter will get floor time, Blair will too… maybe not as much as we fans want to see, but I’m certain it’ll be enough for them to develop/improve and stay sharp. Both have shown already that sitting for a game or two only intensifies their desire to play well; it’s not as though they sulk, or are unprepared when they are given the opportunity to play.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 23, 2010 1:22 AM CST up reply actions
While your arguments are rational, and I have been going on about Bonners effectiveness for a while now, I don’t see it happening. Why? Just not Pops personality. We have had the dame starting lineup e set game so far this season. How’s that working out for us?
I just don’t see Pop messing with this at this point. He will DNP Splitter here and there, and play around with the in game subbing rotation and whatnot in order to keep winning but also maximize learning and “practice” minutes, based on matchups, who’s hot, etc., but not this.
I do agree we will see more [hopefully very productive] minutes from Splitter Wednesday.
This. I don’t think it will matter much right now who’s in the starting lineup or what. At the end of the day, Pop will give more minutes to whoever’s playing well, be that player a starter or a bench guy.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 23, 2010 1:56 AM CST up reply actions
Although, I think it’s more about planning for the post season. He might be pushing the pace all throughout the season unlike in the past, but he’s working the strings well. Spreading out the minutes and honestly, keeping Splitter fresh since he’s played all year already. I think there’s more to that than anything else.
It’s also easier to get him used to the system on the easier teams than the harder ones. Live practice. Easier to teach when you can make mistakes and still blow out a team.
• The Spurs are going to be a very tough team when Ginobili (25 points, nine assists) and Tony Parker (24 points, 10 assists) combine to have the kind of game they had Monday night. Both had strong offensive games, but their defense down the stretch was strong as well. Parker helped harrass Jameer Nelson into two late turnovers. And their offense was responsible for a late 10-0 run that put the game away.
• Matt Bonner had a huge game for several reasons. Not only did he blister Orlando for four 3-pointers, but his outside shooting helped open up inside driving lanes for Parker and Ginobili. He provided a team-high seven rebounds and also played in a team-best 36:15. It marked only the third time in his San Antonio career he’s led the team in minutes. When he is contributing like that, he helps all aspects of the Spurs offense to hum.
• Gregg Popovich called Monday’s game one of the most entertaining of the season. And he wasn’t lying as the game featured 29 lead changes and 15 ties. Included were nine lead changes and two ties in the fourth quarter.
That second paragraph is the definition of bizarre.
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
Poor Fred.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Nov 23, 2010 7:47 AM CST up reply actions
I just gonna say that Bon Bon is taking it to a new level this year, and not talking only on his shooting, his intensity, his IQ, even when defending, his rotations are perfect, rebounds!
Looks like he is having fun out there, and like he said after the game, It’s all about chemistry.
Anyways, another nice surprise (of many) that this team is giving us this year
by spursfan_needs_counseling on Nov 23, 2010 9:16 AM CST up reply actions
I was at the Charlotte game this year and I was impressed how hard was working pre-game. I dont know if it is typical for a player coming from injury to work that hard before the game, but he was running around like crazy with Chip and NOBODY ELSE. He was the only Spur out there. You seasoned game attendees, is that common?
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
by LasEspuelas on Nov 23, 2010 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
Bonner that is.
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
by LasEspuelas on Nov 23, 2010 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
Methinks someone promised him a sandwich. j/k
I don’t have a problem with Bonner’s work-ethic or hustle… he’s a Spur and has those in spades. Add to that a healthy dose of extra motivation from seeing Blair and Splitter coming up fast in his rear-view mirror
My problem with Matt is more about his trying to do things he can’t/shouldn’t and poor playoff performance. But I’m starting to feel that he’s doing a much better job of channeling Bruce Bowen and playing within himself, and he’s doing more of the "little things" that don’t make the stat line and fewer of the Bonner-head mistakes that make me crazy crazier… so I’m hopeful that this will translate into greater confidence in what he does well, leading to improved play in the playoffs.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 23, 2010 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
To be fair, during playoffs last year, other than the big 3, who else showed up?
My take with Bonner is that he is feeding off this new spurs winning mentality, and giving his 110%, bringing new ways to contribute to this team.
RJ showed this from the start, Bonner followed suit, now we just need GH and Blair to show up next.
by spursfan_needs_counseling on Nov 23, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
RJ had some good games vs. Dallas, even the key to winning one of them imho. Dice played some great D on Irk, he was playoff-clutch.
I don’t want to talk about the Phoenix sweep… it’ll keep until after the regular season, when Duncan, Manu, TP, etc. use it for an extra burst of motivation.
But your take is a good one… a winner’s attitude is infectious, especially on a team with the kind of chemistry that the Spurs have. That and the internal competition for playing time are paying dividends in the 110% effort and hustle that I see from every player, from Timmy to whoever our 13th roster player happens to be today.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 23, 2010 11:19 PM CST up reply actions
Great recap. Enjoyed the play by play replay, especially for the few parts I missed due to my feed not being totally reliable.
Although Manu had a great game and the clincher at the end, I might have to just barely give the #1 nod to Tony this game. Manu had those ghastly turnovers to end the third. Tonys two for two 3’s were specially awesome.
Glanced at this and will save full review for tomorrow. Morning smiles at the office recounting this Spurs win with a Hirschof recap.
Again though, what a good game. Two legit top teams who can shoot the three and defend the floor going at it and staying within a handful of points for 47 minutes. Spurs make key plays on both ends to close it out. Spurs win this one playing solid and good yet not great. Room for improvement at 12-1. I’ll take that.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
The throwback Spurs are ranked SECOND in offensive efficiency and a very solid 5th in defense.
[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]
"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said
Honestly, If the offensive production continues and the Spurs finished the season 5th in total defense, I would be ecstatic.
[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]
"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said
This is true. Although, they still have patches of bad D. They allow the least amount of 3’s, but can do a better job of lessening the percentage. As the games scale out, this should probably get better. Since the Spurs have more athletic guys they should be able to improve knocking that down.
Although if they use Blair in better situations (to optimize his contributions) and Splitter gets more real time (as he gains more NBA traction), they should be able to end in the top 3.
Love that our defense has tighten up.(Despite me thinking it is not really good until around half way of the 3rd and the 4th q,but if with that we’re 5th how much more if we tight things up after all star break?)That stat looks good.Don’t wanna be complacent until I see silver and black in June with poppin’ champagnes and PtR fans going gaga.But I’m very impressed with our team this year.SA has been a revelation and it is us creeping up against the league,not OKC.SA has been a revelation and NO has been a surprise.I think Bonner should be considered in the three point shoot out(break Brid’s record!).And Manu should be an all-star and I think Tim’s starting pos might be in jeopardy in the all-star game but he’s still going to be an all-star and I think WEE FRENCHIE should also be considered.Man this year feels weird with good vibes. it makes me :)
"I cry,but everyone will cry if I'm in the NBA"-Adam Morrison.I know now why fans cry when they see him on the floor.
Bonner was in the 3-point already. His style doesn’t suit the type of event that the contest is. And if Duncan’s starting position is in jeopardy, Spurs are going to have issues in the post season…
starting position in the all star game. not for us :)
Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis
by SpursfanSteve on Nov 23, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
So ESPN predicted us to have 49 wins?Ah I just love opposing haters.
"I cry,but everyone will cry if I'm in the NBA"-Adam Morrison.I know now why fans cry when they see him on the floor.
wow really?
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Nov 23, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
Just like you say, I was one of those who perched themselves patiently waiting and putting all our hopes on the dying body of Tim Duncan. But didn’t it work out at last? Patience pays right? Yeah it did in the Spurs and Magic’s game
Is LeBron James the next Micheal Jordan
Yeah, the Minny game screams Tarp. Hopefully I’ll be able to write about our 12-game win streak in the Dallas preview, but I could see us losing like the NOOCH did last night.
Ugly loss by NOOCH last night. Slippers tried to give the game away on several occasions, but Griffin was a monster, and Paul made one or two key turnovers in the 4th.
But the road trip coulda been worse for the Hornets. They eked out a victory in a low-scoring affair against the Kings.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 23, 2010 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
There was a game?
"Sometimes the Spurs make you play ugly. That's just the way they are." - Gary Bender
Very funny.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 23, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
Just browsed through Simmons’ chat to see what he thought of our streak, and that bastard had this to say:
Yeah, the Scola thing was their biggest mistake of the past 10 years and it’s never really been explained why they panicked like that – it would have been a luxury tax hit for one year (and not even for THAT much) and they just gave him away. I’m still not sold on them maintaining this pace… keep hearing that Manu’s ankles and knees are in much worse shape than they are letting on.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 23, 2010 7:32 PM CST reply actions
I read that too, and I wanted to punch my screen. And I usually like Simmons.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Nov 23, 2010 7:35 PM CST up reply actions
Ooooo, Stampler’s gonna have a field day on Simmons.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 23, 2010 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
And the Scola mistake has WHAT to do with the streak ? What a hater. Also, he doesnt even give a reason why he thinks they cant maintain this pace. No one on the team is playing too many minutes.
[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]
"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said
Indeedy. Career highs for Manu across the board and he says that the guy is in bad shape. Can’t wait for the Spurs to stomp his Celtics.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on Nov 23, 2010 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
He probably thinks he doesn’t have to give a reason… after all, everyone knows the Spurs are OLD, lol!
While I don’t think that the Spurs pay too much attention to critics (certainly not from the basketball press), I can’t help but think that if someone made Manu aware of Simmons’ comment about him (hint hint), he’d go off on a two-week rampage through the league that would leave us gasping.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 23, 2010 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
Sadly (for Simmons), I dont think Manu would give a flying f%&k. Now if it was someone like a coach or a player that said that, I am sure he would go all Batmanu on the entire league for a few days.
[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]
"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Nov 23, 2010 9:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
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