Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Where Do The Lakers Go From Here?

Carmelo Anthony to SA?




"I'm admittedly slow on the uptake, but Anthony gave me the impression he's singularly interested in playing for a team in the habit of inhabiting first place and bedding championships -- you know, like the Lakers, Celtics and Spurs. "
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/melo_choice_gOUYj9Wi7jGjn0hRb0B90H



Could it be? Or just another Damon Stoudamire pipe dream? My reaction and analysis, after the jump.

Star-divide

As an introduction, I apologize in advance for my lack of flashiness in this post, as I am still relatively new to the site and don't know much about how to make my posts sparkle.  Hopefully my words will invoke a similar emotion.

For starters, let's just think about this as if our Spurs weren't 8-1.  Let's assume RJ 2.0 wasn't going all NBA JAM on us.  The possibility of acquiring probably one of the top 5-10 players in the NBA--especially one young and on the upside--has to be something intriguing to the Spurs community, especially considering this is considered such a monumental and pivotal year in our franchise history.  Admittedly, little whispers like this may mean much less than any of our hypothesizing, but if the interest in Melo to SA was indeed mutual (something few of us really have much intel on), we're suddenly much closer to a believable reality than we may think.

Let's first look over our roster:

PG- Parker- speedy, offensive/fast break specialist; knows our offense best at his position

       Hill - also quick, but is more of a shooter and defensive specialist

       Quinn- bench-relegated for life

SG- Ginobili - crafty, emotional offensive specialist who also can be a gritty defender; heart and soul of team

       Anderson - new kid, also plays SF; already established as a good shooter/solid defender; Bruce Bowen role?

       Neal - lights-out shooter; already budding in the system and so far is a major offseason pickup

       Gee - bench-relegated for life (?)

SF- Jefferson - revitalized career after a lackluster first year in our system; versatile offensive threat, seemingly only SF

PF - Duncan - apparently he's been here for a while...

       McDyess - one-time athletic and physical specimen who can still patrol the paint and shut down big-time stars (see: irk Nowitzki)

       Bonner - 3pt specialist that stretches the D and probably plays more effectively than we will ever realize; sandwich connoisseur

C - Blair - when he's not putting a Thabeet down on other bigs, he's hustling and taking up space

     Splitter - the next European savior that continues to grow game-by-game

 

With this in mind, do we really need Melo? The short answer, of course, is no.  However, if you ask me, and have all the reservations that the Spurs must continue to succeed, even post-Duncan, I say the answer is a resounding YES.  If the dude is interested in coming, at least look at the options and see what it would take to get him.  (Keep in mind that  this is probably one of the only possibilities, at least until Jefferson is eligible to be traded on December 15th) Are we really sold on an aging RJ? I know I'm not.  I think Popovich is the kind of coach that can get the most out of Melo and his ego, and San Antonio is that kind of town.  In the unlikely event that this IS a possibility, imagine 4 or 5 years from now and looking back and asking yourself, what if we did make the move for Melo? As assuring as the start to our year has been and as wide open as the NBA scene appears this season, this is something that might end up biting us in the ass down the road, especially if Melo goes to another contender*.  He offers the offensive repertoire, rebounding prowess, defensive ferocity, and superstar standing to keep any team relevant--not to mention he plays a position which we only have 1 of.  Like him or not, Melo is a true gangsta and a true warrior.

What do you think? If you were the Spurs FO would you roll the dice and make a move for him? Do you think he could fit with the silver and black? I'm not naive, and I realize making such a move requires more than just throwing out names and matching up salaries.  I also realize that this is something that our FO would likely stay away from, which is why I ask you to play along!

 

*DISCLAIMER: with this being said, I was outspokenly all for the Jason Kidd/Jermaine O'Neal acquisitions in '03.

Poll
Would you want Melo on the Silver and Black?
NO.
70 votes
YES, but only if it means we get rid of RJ.
10 votes
YES, but only if it means we get rid of Tony.
5 votes
YES, but only if it means we don't get rid of Tony.
29 votes
YES, just because I'm worried about anyone else getting him.
7 votes
Stop Snitchin'
12 votes

133 votes | Poll has closed

Comment 99 comments  |  1 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

The title of this post scared the living you-know-what out of me. You really shouldn’t do that to people.

by Tim C. on Nov 16, 2010 1:45 PM CST reply actions  

+1

Keep the faith!!

by Heman on Nov 16, 2010 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

no, it simply asks for people to read beyond the title? as i established in my argument, this situation is strictly hypothetical and thus polarizing and responsive. with that being said, i do find it interesting that 100% of the panel were totally against it…maybe it shows how delusional i am

by Acinus on Nov 16, 2010 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

In fairness, when the RJ trade went down last summer, there was at least one fanpost that day whose title read “Jefferson to SA?”. And so, I had flashbacks to the terrible team chemistry of last season.

For the record, I think Melo ends up in Dallas.

by Tim C. on Nov 16, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Mavs and NY are the two teams willing to pay out of their mind contacts. So yah, dallas makes sense with the amount they can trade back at the moment.

by grego21 on Nov 16, 2010 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

last I heard, Dallas and Portland are going after Iguodala so I could probably see them sensibly going after him as a poor man’s Melo if they don’t win out in the Melo sweepstakes. I just wonder if there is any mutual interest. If nothing else I hope he ends up in the East

by Acinus on Nov 16, 2010 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 16, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

+!

"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich

by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Nov 16, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

::curls up into a fetal position at the thought::

With all due respect, gentlemen, we're not as crazy as she is.

by CapHill on Nov 16, 2010 1:47 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

+1

My sentiments exactly!

by LionZion on Nov 16, 2010 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Perfect answer!

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Nov 16, 2010 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

If most of our players played like crap and we are off to a 4-5 start or something like that then perhaps.

But the Spurs are 8-1 and our players are not playing like crap. We have team chemistry, something which was completely lacking last year. Yay!

"Rip it and grip it!" -Kevin Costner

by The Augustus on Nov 16, 2010 1:54 PM CST reply actions  

 The vast majority of fantasy trade posts usually pop up in the offseason. Notwithstanding, trading a guard like Tony in mid season, (who is intrinsically familiar with the Spurs system) would completely wreck our title hopes. Under your proposition, the Spurs also lose serious depth in the front court with the loss of Dice.

In addition, despite the fact Melo is considerably better than RJ, he would still need at least one year in the Spurs system to help the team. Our title hope would also be dashed under this scenario.

[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]

"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said

by alamobro on Nov 16, 2010 3:09 PM CST reply actions  

I voted “God NO, PLEAAAAAAAAAAASE NO”

[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]

"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said

by alamobro on Nov 16, 2010 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn’t see an option up there that appropriately expressed my opposition… garment rending, wailing and gnashing of teeth, ritual seppuku… you get the idea.

chaos... panic... pandemonium... my work here is done.

by rick2g on Nov 16, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Not to distract from the weighty matter at hand, but is there a type of seppuku that isn’t ritual?

Seppuku (切腹?, “stomach-cutting”) is a form of Japanese ritual suicide by disembowelment.

The point with intangibles is that no one can see them.

by J.R. Wilco on Nov 16, 2010 5:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I suppose I superfluously reiterated the inessential extra word with needless redundancy.

chaos... panic... pandemonium... my work here is done.

by rick2g on Nov 16, 2010 6:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Good thing you made up for it with your extra-awesome reply.

=]

The point with intangibles is that no one can see them.

by J.R. Wilco on Nov 16, 2010 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Honestly, knowing we could have Melo for multiple years might be worth trading Tony and his large contract. This IS a big if, and like I said, is mostly myself being hopeful. Although, the frontcourt depth we’d be losing in Dice couldn’t be any worse than the SF depth problems we’ve been suffering from by only having RJ as the true SF. Bonner just recently came back from injury, giving us another one of our bigs with experience to have on the bench. Beyond that, Blair and Splitter are getting better and more and more deserving of more playing time by their steady acclamation to the offense. With those combined with Timmy, I’d say our frontline would be in better shape than our wing position currently. Again, this is all hypothetical and this is simply me blowing up a mere mention of our team.

by Acinus on Nov 16, 2010 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I’d say Tony’s contract extension makes him undervalued. While talking about frontcourt and SF depth, you’ve completely ignored the entire lack of depth behind TP at PG.

by Alamo on Nov 16, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions  

this is true, and if nothing else we have shown an ability to find backup PG’s when necessary (jerrells, temple, quinn, etc.)

by Acinus on Nov 16, 2010 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

None of those listed excite me at all as possible replacements for Le Extension.

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Nov 16, 2010 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

geek, Le Extension, I like that.

But somehow, I can’t leave it alone. I cannot resist the urge to tinker.

Le Extension
LeExtension
Lextension
Lex Tension

Ok, so that means that: Tony Parker = Le Extension = Lex Tension

Therefore:

Tony Parker = Lex Tension

Which yields:

Tony = Lex and Parker = Tension

Making possible:

Tony Tension and Lex Parker

I’d better stop now before things get seriously weird.

The point with intangibles is that no one can see them.

by J.R. Wilco on Nov 16, 2010 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I was saving this for a game thread, but what the Hay. How about: “la prolongation de contrat”

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Nov 16, 2010 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you sure that prolongation is feminine?

The point with intangibles is that no one can see them.

by J.R. Wilco on Nov 16, 2010 6:04 PM CST up reply actions  

No idea. Any french speakers here?

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Nov 16, 2010 6:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Apparently, it’s feminine.

So, la prolongation it is.

The point with intangibles is that no one can see them.

by J.R. Wilco on Nov 16, 2010 7:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Not sure ’bout that but prolongoriation sure is feminine.

by sparking!!! on Nov 17, 2010 2:41 AM CST up reply actions  

The point with intangibles is that no one can see them.

by J.R. Wilco on Nov 17, 2010 3:43 AM CST up reply actions  

And I love both Tony Tension and Lex Parker. Funny, but even though it is french my mind wants to pronounce Tension the spanish way, mostly as I have no idea what the french pronunciation would be. And why is it “pronounce”, but “pronunciation”? Think we are heading to detourish land here.

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Nov 16, 2010 5:53 PM CST up reply actions  

+infinity. I can’t tell you how much I’m glad we’re in agreement on this one.

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 16, 2010 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I noticed this item about Antonio Daniels in the D-League and thought, if the Spurs were so foolish as to trade either Tony or George mid-season, could they bring Daniels in to play backup PG?

Then I came to my senses.

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 17, 2010 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

You are also assuming Melo would want to be traded to San Antonio. I think someone of his personality would more readily be accepting of a trade to somewhere like New York. He already expressed that desire earlier in the year.

There is also the assumption that Melo would re-sign with San Antonio in the offseason, instead of bolting to greener pastures. Big if.

[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]

"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said

by alamobro on Nov 16, 2010 3:19 PM CST reply actions  

Acinus, I see what you’re thinking, what with Carmelo bringing up S.A. on his own. But I thought this argument was handled pretty well a couple of months ago here:

Among just NBA small forwards, Anthony ranked 13th in field goal percentage. You read that correctly, 13th. He finished behind not just LeBron and Kevin Durant, but also Luol Deng, Rudy Gay, Gerald Wallace, and more.

Each of those players named scored over 17 points per game. Make Luol or Gerald the featured player in an up-tempo offense, and you would have to think that they could score around 28 as well.

Anthony is also just plain bad behind the arc. His 31 percent mark put him at 48th among small forwards. Wouldn’t you ban him from taking three-point shots at that point?

Take into account that he doesn’t have a rep as the most coachable guy, and I don’t see R.C. showing any interest whatsoever. And then there are the chemistry issues that others have raised. Now, if Kevin Durant had said the same thing the poll would likely look a bit different.

The point with intangibles is that no one can see them.

by J.R. Wilco on Nov 16, 2010 3:25 PM CST reply actions  

having an uptempo offense would create more shots, thus probably hurting his FG% simply by the amount he’s taking, no?

I don’t know, I would just hate to think Melo is more than just a product of the George Karl offense, no matter how low his FG% or 3pt% may be. I guess in the same way, we could see what Parker could do in that offense

by Acinus on Nov 16, 2010 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I don’t see Melo as “just a product of the George Karl offense.” I see him instead as a product of an organization that allows him to a) take more shots than he should, and b) regularly take lower percentage shots than is good for the team.

Across the board, his numbers are closer to (and some times even below) those of an average player for his position, but because of his clutchness (he’s quite good at end-of-game situations) and his reputation, he’s catered to and allowed to do as he pleases.

I’d probably be against such a trade, even if it were for a player with better numbers simply because the team is playing well, and because guards & small forwards tend to stink for a whole season when they come into the Spurs system (RJ, Finley, Barry, Horry) and the Spurs aren’t made of time right now. They need to win with Tim while he’s still around, these past 3 games notwithstanding.

The point with intangibles is that no one can see them.

by J.R. Wilco on Nov 16, 2010 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Now, if Kevin Durant had said the same thing the poll would likely look a bit different.

Just a wee bit. Damn, I would probably trade my mother for KD.

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Nov 16, 2010 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

There would be a line of PtRers offering to have KD’s baby. And I’m fairly certain that Lauri would resort to some sort of trickery to make sure that she’d be at the head of said line, if she didn’t die of sheer happiness first.

With all due respect, gentlemen, we're not as crazy as she is.

by CapHill on Nov 16, 2010 5:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Ditto on What JRW said. Melo is simply not a Popovich-style player. He’s splashy, streaky, and hasn’t bothered to play defense for the better part of his career. Can he? Yeah, but he doesn’t bother to try unless he’s going up against Kobe. Really, he reminds me quite a bit of Marbury or Iverson… extraordinarily talented, but he’s a wash when it comes to helping his team win. Unless he’s able to single-handedly out-score the opposing team (like he did in college), then he hurts his team as much or more than he helps.

chaos... panic... pandemonium... my work here is done.

by rick2g on Nov 16, 2010 3:47 PM CST reply actions  

Let me add to this.

I doubt Melo will win anything of consequence during his entire NBA career unless somebody kind enough does an intervention at some point to let him see that ultimately he will be forgotten the moment he retires. The way he is going, this is seriously what I think will happen.

by LionZion on Nov 16, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Couldn’t have written it better. Maybe Iverson and Marbury could team up with Dr. Drew to get Melo on the right path, but that would require getting them to realize where they went wrong too. Ain’t holdin’ my breath.

chaos... panic... pandemonium... my work here is done.

by rick2g on Nov 16, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Well put! Though I still like Cap’s response the best.

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Nov 16, 2010 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

The point with intangibles is that no one can see them.

by J.R. Wilco on Nov 16, 2010 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Huh? No ‘Melo-drama in San Antonio! Because that’s what he’d bring…

And, how come there was only one option to vote NO, and multiple ones to vote yes? I certainly needed something stronger than a simple “No” — my sentiments were more on the order of “H3!! NO”

As jrw pointed out, the discussion over whether ’Melo should be pursued was largely settled (at least in my mind) over the summer, and that was even before we knew how awesome RJ 2.0 was going to start this season, or how well our rookies (Anderson, Neal, Splitter) would play and contribute.

Are you serious about trading away the Spurs’ starting PG, in one of the last years we can make a serious playoff run with Timmy? Who’s gonna run the point, then? George. I love him, he’s got game… but he’s not ready for that yet imho. Even if he were, who would be his back-up? Temple and Jerrells are gone (not that I’d trust them yet to be the team’s backup PG in the playoffs), so that leaves Quinn? Are you kidding me?

And what would we get in return? A scorer… a scorer at the “3” where we have a very good scorer ourselves, thank you very much. In fact, I’d argue that RJ 2.0 is a far more efficient scorer than ‘Melo, who requires far too many touches/possessions to make his 20 points/game. Further, I’d rather have RJ 2.0 shooting the three than ‘Melo who takes far too many ill-advised threes (see jrw’s link again). Defense? No question, RJ 2.0 has his biggest edge over Anthony here… except for maybe a bigger edge in the all-important team chemistry department. RJ’s biggest gift was that he came in accepting a deferential role to the Big Three (perhaps too deferential last year, it’s true). Do you honestly think that ’Melo’s ego would allow him to do that? I’m thinking the Spurs would have to pay an extra salary for his ego! (i.e. he’s said to be looking for a max deal in his next contract. You think the Spurs think that he’d be worth one?)

On further consideration, it’s not offensive efficiency, 3 pt. shooting, defense, nor team chemistry that is the most important advantage that RJ 2.0 has over ‘Melo. The most important factor is coachability. Pop made the point that it’s very unusual and admirable for a player with RJ’s resume to take a look at himself and work hard in the off-season to get back to the kind of disciplined player he once was. ’Melo never would do that, never even had that kind of discipline imho.

Worst of all, a player like ‘Melo would demand a major change to the playbook (on the defensive side especially, to cover for his deficiencies and/or lack of commitment). The Spurs made this adjustment to become more of a running team over the off-season… you’re proposing a trade that would force the team to make another major change after the season has already started? They didn’t/couldn’t add/change the playbook to accommodate RJ (and Dice) last year, why would you think they would/could do it this year for ’Melo?

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 16, 2010 5:00 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Forgot to add this link to a BleacherReport piece on what TP’s extension means to the Spurs… this is probably as good a place to put it, ‘cause it supports the argument that Tony wouldn’t be traded for ’Melo, not in this reality.

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 16, 2010 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I love your replies. Like nice little mini-fanposts sprinkled throughout PtR. Good points.

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Nov 16, 2010 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks. When they go all out of control (i.e. too long), jrw sends me a nice reminder to turn them into FPs. :)

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 16, 2010 5:46 PM CST up reply actions  

oh and yes, I like your imagery of me hiding “Easter Eggs” here and there for PtR’rs to find and enjoy. Just call me the “Easter Rabbit” :)

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 16, 2010 5:47 PM CST up reply actions  

the Easter Raw Fish

geek, that was just too much!

Rec’d.

The point with intangibles is that no one can see them.

by J.R. Wilco on Nov 16, 2010 6:13 PM CST up reply actions  

rotflmao

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 16, 2010 6:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Preaching to the choir again, but as succinctly as I can put it:

Melo’s obvious talents make people overlook his inefficiency as a player.

chaos... panic... pandemonium... my work here is done.

by rick2g on Nov 16, 2010 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Verrrrry succinct, I wish I could be like that! :)

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 16, 2010 7:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Is this just so that guy on Jeopardy! can be half-right?

by DrumsInTheDeep on Nov 16, 2010 5:30 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

GOL

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 16, 2010 5:45 PM CST up reply actions  

great write up, recommended

you had me at…

Let’s assume RJ 2.0 wasn’t going all NBA JAM on us.

“Stop Snitchin” – Either we’re either gonna get the [flip] out of the ghetto, or we’re gonna make it in the ghetto, man. The only way to do that is to stick together.
That’s why it got my vote.

'Offensive rebounding' is a gross understatement of DeJuan Blair's skill. It is far beyond 'offensive' and should be qualified as 'Get The Hell Out of My Way Or I'll Tear Your Arms Off and Eat Your Babies' rebounding.

by Iullaby on Nov 16, 2010 5:50 PM CST reply actions  

Ha! I would be afraid to use that thing.

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Nov 16, 2010 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Hahahahahaha….did she really go there?

[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]

"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said

by alamobro on Nov 16, 2010 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice!

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Nov 16, 2010 6:59 PM CST up reply actions  

No bad on Acinus (even though I didn’t agree with any of his propostions)

But this reply is better than nice, it’s an instant classic, bordering on legendary. Someone please make this green.

[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]

"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said

by alamobro on Nov 16, 2010 11:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I loved Bella’s pic, but I was referring to your play with words “go there”…

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Nov 17, 2010 12:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Alas, I am not clever enough to have purposefully meant that as a play on words. But I will run with it anyhoo.

[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]

"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said

by alamobro on Nov 17, 2010 1:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Shhh. You meant to do that. Your sharp wit came up with it automatically without you even realizing.

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Nov 17, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Funny, I had exactly the same thought that swgeek did about your (unintentional) play on words. Maybe your subconscious genius was working overtime? :)

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 17, 2010 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Full of win.

With all due respect, gentlemen, we're not as crazy as she is.

by CapHill on Nov 16, 2010 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

You can add all the bling you want to it… and it’ll still be a toilet. :P

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 17, 2010 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

If carmelo becomes a spur I will stop being a fan of the san antonio spurs. PERIOD

"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"

by Chilai on Nov 16, 2010 10:06 PM CST reply actions  

Melo will never be a Spur. IF this were to happen in bizarro-land Pop would do one of 3 three things: Bench him, kill him, bench him then kill him.

by Ed (dfjmed) on Nov 16, 2010 10:26 PM CST reply actions  

If his head doesn’t explode first.

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Nov 17, 2010 12:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Carmelo Anthony is the center that we have been waiting for. He might even win 3 finals MVP. That dude from Jeopardy might be right when he answered Carmelo Anthony.

Yo, I’m 6-11, but I just want to dribble through my legs and shoot jumpshots like a guard. - Marc Blucas on Tim Duncan

by TDzilla! on Nov 16, 2010 11:36 PM CST reply actions  

Hahahahaha

[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]

"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said

by alamobro on Nov 16, 2010 11:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Coincidence ? I think not ! Lets hope so.

[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]

"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said

by alamobro on Nov 16, 2010 11:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol.And the girl said Tony Parker.I think Tony should start racking up rebounds instead of going with point guard fad this days.

"I cry,but everyone will cry if I'm in the NBA"-Adam Morrison.I know now why fans cry when they see him on the floor.

by tp_09 on Nov 17, 2010 5:40 AM CST up reply actions  

rumor said that he already got a rebound.

by sparking!!! on Nov 19, 2010 12:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Bonner, Quinn and (a resigned) Gee or Temple for Carmelo Anthony and you got a deal.

This way I wouldn’t care if we resigned him next year, we wouldn’t lose too much, and we could get some offensive/intensity insurance for the playoffs.

We would probably bring some drama to SA, but I think it would be worth it.

So, in conclusion….. No way should we mess with this team’s chemistry/key players. We’re 8-1 for a reason.

Running game?
Where we're going, we don't need a running game.
~Norv Turner

by TecateBoltsFan on Nov 17, 2010 3:21 AM CST reply actions  

Bringing in ‘Melo would mess with the team’s chemistry. Not to mention explode their salary budget (Melo is said to be looking for a max deal? Think the Spurs F.O. would give him one to keep him? Not likely.)

And your trade is pure fantasy imho. Denver is looking for more than the package you’re offering for him, a lot more. They were talking with NJ about Favors, Chicago about Noah. They’d want one of our Big Three Four and additional compensation.

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 17, 2010 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Honestly,I don’t want to move any guy from this team.If we can wreak havoc with this kind of team,then why get Melo?He still needs to adjust to the SA system just like RJ,no matter how a 20&8 guy you are,just like RJ,he’ll struggle.And RJ has 100x better character than Melo.And with Melo,I think we won’t fit that much with SA’s culture,just saying and I’m not being so judgmental.And why mess our teams chemistry?RJ’s playing pretty well and he knows his role,if Carmela was here,do you think he’ll easily accept that role?

"I cry,but everyone will cry if I'm in the NBA"-Adam Morrison.I know now why fans cry when they see him on the floor.

by tp_09 on Nov 17, 2010 5:39 AM CST reply actions  

Carmela playing 4th, or even 5th banana? AND a max deal to keep him? Agree, it’s not gonna happen…

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 17, 2010 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

HELL NO

"The A-Train deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Nov 17, 2010 3:56 PM CST reply actions  

Parker and Jefferson. Boom, Trade DONE.

"Are you gunna bite all day little doggie, or are you gunna bite?"

by Joseph Parkes on Nov 17, 2010 10:08 PM CST reply actions  

My my, I am very glad you have no say in the teams dealings…sheesh,I hope you are kidding.

[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]

"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said

by alamobro on Nov 18, 2010 1:41 AM CST up reply actions  

I think he was kidding, but +infinity anyway.

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 18, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

People are such full of crap. Everyone is only saying that because they know Carmelo would never join this team, not in a million years. If tomorrow morning a thread read “Carmelo Anthony joined the San Antonio Spurs” I promise you everyone would die from excitement.

This happens anytime someone doesn’t believe they can’t get something. You should have seen every team denying Lebron on their team when he was a free agent, pretty much because they knew they had no chance.

I’ll be the first to say if we get Anthony just by giving up Jefferson and Hill, I’ll take it. I do believe a couple at most might not like it, but the amount of negative reaction in here is bullshit and you guys know it. At least I’m man enough to admit it.

by SpursGerbil on Nov 18, 2010 2:06 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

You’re wrong (at least about the way I would react). I would not be excited at all, quite the opposite.

If the Spurs wanted Anthony, and were willing to blow up the team to get him, I’m certain that they would be able to come to terms with both Anthony and the Nuggets. It’s not a case of believing that we can’t get him… we really don’t want him.

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 18, 2010 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

ditto.

Nice one, fresh.

by sparking!!! on Nov 19, 2010 12:38 AM CST up reply actions  

thank you, sparking!!!

It just bugs me when someone I don’t know (and who clearly doesn’t know me) presumes to know that I’m feeling or thinking the exact opposite of what I’ve been saying/writing here consistently. I know that I express my opinions rather forcefully, and that may bother some people, and I’m sorry about that. But they are my honest opinions… and I’m perfectly happy with people expressing contrary views to mine and engaging in an intelligent debate/discussion with me. Just as long as they don’t tell me I’m full of it and that I have some elaborate Internet persona that is different from who I really am.

I would die if ’Melo-drama came to the Spurs…. just not from excitement.

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 19, 2010 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

You would instantly wreck our title hopes for this season if you would really pull the trigger on such a deal.

I would love to have Melo on the team, if the front office decided to get him, I would have faith that they did it because they thought he could be coachable and help the team immensely. But they won’t be doing it, and here is why…

San Antonio needed over 82 games to incorporate Jefferson into the offense, what changes with Melo ? He’s a better player, but he would still be lost in the Spurs system for the first year, and the team would suffer.

He’s not a good three point shooter, if you have followed the team, the system calls for a small forward who can shoot the three ball.

Who would replace George Hills production? Neal ? Neal is a lights out shooter, but let’s not kid ourselves.

Melo would in no way equal the combined production of Hill and Jefferson, much less surpass it.

This deal might make sense if Melo was going to stay, but don’t you think he would bolt to greener pastures as soon as the (unsuccessful) season was over? Exactly what money is it you are hoping to sign him with ?

This is no negative, bullsh$t reaction on my part. I really feel this way.

[ "Duncan, the Spurs' 34-year-old captain, was aghast when Splitter told him he used to watch him as a kid."]

"I didn't enjoy that at all," Duncan said

by alamobro on Nov 18, 2010 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Some people would be happy; some wouldn’t. Anthony is a helluva an offensive NBA player, but his style of offense doesn’t match the Spurs system. Plus, he’s lackadaisical on defense and his rebounding is subpar for a SF of his size.

When you consider what the Spurs would have to pay him in the future, then the cons far outweigh the pros. There are too many unknowns with the upcoming labor negotiations to take this chance on a player.

With all due respect, gentlemen, we're not as crazy as she is.

by CapHill on Nov 18, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

You sir are very wrong. We dont need more stinkin offense. We are a frickin juggernaut. And that’s the only thing Carmelo knows to do: offese. And he is a volume shooter, a guy who most of the time is not very effective.
WHY THE HELL DO WE NEED HIM? We have some really incredible offensive players, who are also effective.
A defensive center? a defensive wing? Maybe we can talk.

"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"

by Chilai on Nov 18, 2010 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

People are such full of crap.

Agreed. It is kinda like all the Spurs fan bullshit on this site. Everyone here really wants to be a Laker fan. Why do you think they look forward to the Laker games so much. Happens every time – people get all excited about some lame team when they really want to follow the greatest team on the planet, maybe in history.
At least we are men and don’t mind admitting it.

Thanks for reading my mind and telling me what I am really thinking, by the way. I cannot believe I would lie to myself and to complete strangers like that.

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Nov 18, 2010 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

GOL. I think your reply just overloaded the sarcasmometer. Blew out its circuits, poor thing.

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 18, 2010 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

jrw has contacts for Russian black-market sarcasmometers. You have to learn Cyrillic in order to read the handbook, but those things never break.

With all due respect, gentlemen, we're not as crazy as she is.

by CapHill on Nov 18, 2010 11:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Cap, I thought we would agree to keep that information off the site. Seriously!

::sigh::

Ok, well it’s out there now so if any of you need a heavy duty one (and let’s face it, if you hang around PtR you probably do) just let me know and I’ll get you in touch with Nikolai. Or, to be more specific, Nikolai will show up at your door in the middle of the night, with his entire line of sarcasmometers in an HEB shopping cart.

The point with intangibles is that no one can see them.

by J.R. Wilco on Nov 18, 2010 11:27 PM CST up reply actions  

You guys (and gals, sorry Cap) are too much. rotflmao

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 19, 2010 12:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to the SB Nation blog about the San Antonio Spurs.

Community Guidelines

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Manucrazy_small
Game 3 Thoughts...
Manucrazy_small
Game 2 Thoughts (Rinse, Lather, Repeat)
Manucrazy_small
I wrote a thing
Supergino_small
The Media And The Pursuit of Symmetry
Manucrazy_small
Game 1 Thoughts

Recent FanPosts

Small
The Heat scare me.
Small
A cry for advise/help from seasoned Spurs ticket-holders.
6868_small
Tuesday Go Pacers Loser Thread.
Small
Body Language
Pi_small
The Playoff Winningest (if that's a word)
Ark40006m_small
Analyzing The Spurs Margin Of Victory During The Winning Streak
6868_small
Monday Decompression Loser Thread
100_1519_small
A Tip of the Hat
Db_media_boss_small
Spurs sweep sets up match against either Lakers or Thunder (and we’re betting the Thunder)
Dubai-uae-wallpaper_small
Thoughts on WCF

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

Featured Poll

Poll
Who will the Spurs face in the second round?
Memphis Grizzlies
28 votes
Los Angeles Clippers
60 votes

88 votes | Poll has closed

FanShots

Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.

Recommended FanShots

San Antonio Sweepers in action!
SI: Tim Duncan is the most successful player of his generation.
The San Antonio Spurs aren't boring
My birthday cupcake from my lovely wife ;)
NBA BIG commercial

Recent FanShots

Vintage Artest
LOL Andrew Sharp
I think Manu is a more versatile player ... But Harden is good
Bill Simmons Picks the Spurs to win it all
ESPN:"Lakers Are Done"
Most Dominant Ranking the Champs
Hickory-High: Offensive Geometry
As of 8:30 this morning... PROGRESS!
ESPN Fact or Fiction: OKC is the team to beat in the West. Adande:...
Stephen A Smith talking about LeBron

+ New FanShot All FanShots >


G.M.

Jrw_small J.R. Wilco

Coach

D-rob1_small Big50

Oberto_fab_small silverandblack_davis

Nerf_reactor_small CapHill

Screen_shot_2011-12-02_at_4 Josh Guyer (completely deck)

Player

08playoffshappybench_medium_small Justin Biehle

Kawhi_small Edg5

Duncan_small SpursfanSteve

Manu_the_grey_small DrumsInTheDeep

376094_10100544199117568_16706926_51964808_1200814736_n_small MatthewTynan

Ref

Halloween_06_028_small alamobro

Spursshirt_small Trey Felder