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Game #8 Recap: Spurs 116, 76ers 93. Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn

It's my turn to recap tonight. I volunteered, because there were so many people working tirelessly to provide high quality content in this site that I started feeling guilty. Even Stampler is back in full force, doing his best to snark up his team into submission but being brutally crippled in his efforts by our winning percentage. Because we're winning - run-and-gun no-defense wins, wins that are invariably closer than they should be, ugly wins if judged by traditional Spurs aesthetic values.

And yet... winning is kind of neat, isn't it?

Today we tried on a new kind of win: the famous blow-out win, the boring, predictable and unavoidable victory against a lesser opponent which has only two players who seem to care about the game's outcome. It was fun, and the perfect way to say goodbye to the cakewalk stretch of games. We have outgrown the bad teams - now bring on the big boys.

Star-divide

Three Quarters Of Basketball And Then Meh

If you want to form a mental cosmic picture of the first quarter, imagine a planet-killer meteor striking a moon made of brittle ice. If you want a weather-inspired picture, think of a hailstorm hitting a greenhouse. If you want an animal kingdom image, I would equate it to a pack of raptors sneaking into a henhouse. If you want a sexual image... well, I can't give you one, but believe me, they exist. (Check Stampler's recap, he might include one.) Basically, we annihilated them: our offense was once again incredibly efficient and their defense was pitiful. They seemed to dare Manu to shoot open threes, and they appeared content to let Tony weave his way through the paint and lay the ball up. Madness! Madness I tell you! A 22-0 run took the wind out of their sails, and it was almost a backbreaking quarter. However, our defense was soft for first the 6 minutes of the quarter, and Tiago's positive influence could only do so much in the last 6 minutes. We ended 11 points ahead of the 76ers, but they still felt like too few to me.

The second quarter was pedestrian, frustrating and forgettable. We were permeable down low, the Spurs' extended arms didn't seem to bother their shooters, and the trigger happy referees prevented the game from developing any semblance of a flow. They were nearly spotless from the free throw line, to boot, so they quickly ate away at our lead until they were only 6 points behind. Manu and Tony reacted in time, fortunately, so the point differential was only -2 by the time cdeck posted his "end of the second quarter" banner. "It's going to be another one of those nights", I thought, and "Why do they keep doing this to me?" and "At least I'm not a Clippers fan."

(By the way, I saw something downright shocking tonight, midway through the second quarter. Fast break, Tony with the ball, no 76er rushing back to challenge his shot because hey, it's the 76ers, hustle is a foreign word to them. I was expecting the customary Tony Parker soft layup, just-another-day-in-the-office stuff, when he slowed down. He slowed down until RJ, the second man in the fast break, ran past him - and then he just gave the ball away. I saw it, guys, I swear it. Now, I'm not a guy that gives much credence to Stampler's theories. They are fun, but they are also based on psychological and moral analyses that are beyond what any fan can glean from watching these players on TV while playing basketball. However, this moment seemed to fit perfectly into his theory about Tony looking to regain the spotlight by raking in more assists. Who knows?)

After the Charlotte game I had a small chat with our ex-fearless leader, Wayne "Terse" Vore. I had the audacity of saying that the game had been won by our starters, not the bench, and that I hadn't been wowed by the latter. He lashed out at me in response, brandishing stats and play-by-plays and logic and more stats I can shake an engineering degree at, so eventually I had to concede his point: the  bench is good, the bench is useful, long live the bench. However, there isn't a question in my mind about the starter's role in this game, and it was particularly obvious in that third quarter. Our starting five -give or take a Blair/Timmy- was our one-two punch, and the third punch, and the kick to the face while they're down and in fetal position. As proof, I'll point out that all five starters finished with a +/- equal or higher than 20. The defense was finally found and the 76ers were held to only 12 points, with steals, blocks and deflections slowly chipping at their composure. Most of those steals ended up in points or trips to the line, and Bonner came back in time to hammer the final nail in the coffin with a good old Red Rocket long-range bomb. 30-point differential, and the game was unofficially over.

There might be the explanation for Manu Ginobili's permanence in the starting lineup. For the first time since Manu became the legendary Bench Scoring Punch, putting him along Tony Parker at the start of the game is paying off. They split scoring and point guard duties seamlessly, and Tim's quietness seems to make room for both them and RJ's ocassional drives. I have a feeling this lineup is here to stay.

There was a 4th quarter, I think. Yeah... I remember now a Tiago reverse layup, and Hill regaining some of his mojo, and a small white guy taking some nice jumpers that will fool some fans into thinking he's useful. But it was largely inconsequential, with scrubs playing loose and with no stakes. Boring basketball. I welcomed it.

Still, the reverse layup was sweet.

Musings Meant To Stir Up The Proverbial Hornets' Nest

Is this still Timmy's team? It's a question Spurs fans have answered over and over again in forums, blogs, sports bars, and usually the reply is a resounding "YES". YES, he's the (one) leader. YES, the offense starts with him down low. YES, he's the anchor of our defense. And yet honestly, nowadays this team looks to me more and more like Tony and Manu's. They carry the scoring load, they take the clutch shots, and they're the ones making the flashy defensive plays. Timmy's defensive presence can't be matched by the guards, that's true, but then again the vulnerability of the Spurs interior D suggests that its influence is limited. We aren't winning through defense, or half-court sets. We're running, we are shooting from outside, and mostly we are penetrating and kicking to the perimeter. So is this Timmy's team? I fully expect His Oldness to start taking on more responsibilities as we get to the end of the regular season, really, but right now this team lives and breathes as Tony and Manu do.

(Another aside, because parentheses make everything magical. I just noticed that the stately Basketball-reference has "Narigón" listen as one of Manu's nicknames. For the foreigners, that's "Big Nose Guy" in Castilian. Awesome.)

This was Tony's game through and through. The 76ers never found an answer for him, and he sliced and diced and reminded us why he's so good. And then I looked at Manu's line in the boxscore and saw he'd gotten 18 points in 25 minutes. Huh? When did this happen? It's an incredible thing that we are not able to take Manu's 20 points per game for granted, those three triples are in the bag, count on them, take it to the bank. He is the team's main scorer, and his points per 36 minutes are at an all-time high. My only worry is that his minutes per game, before tonight's, was also at a career high, with 34.1 minutes every game. Is it wise to abuse Manu's rested legs like this? I want to trust Pop, because someone has to be the Pop apologist now that Wayne is away, but I can't help but thing that this overdependency on Manu will cost us. In any case, I always remember how people tend to say that Manu is a top-10 NBA talent, but that he can't sustain it for the entire season. Maybe at 33 he finally finds it in himself to be That Guy.

We'll see.

Your Three Stars

3rd. Blair - 13 points, 12 rebounds, 1 assist, 2 steals and lots of good intentions. He looked a bit like The Man Known As The Beast out there tonight. Is he back? Splitter must be sticking pins into a Blair doll right now.

2nd. Manu - 18 points, 3-5 from three, 1 rebound, 1 rebound, 3 TOs and 2 steals. He went for the crazy passes that everyone loves to hate, but that's Manu. He also scored every time we needed him to, and that's Manu too.

1st. Tony - 24 points on 10-13 shooting, 7 assists, 3 rebounds, 1 TO, 3 steals. Daaamn, Tony. Save something for OKC,  will you? The 76ers excel at watching Tony run past them, I learnt as much.

NEXT

@ OKC, tomorrow. SEGABABA, feisty young team with a knack for scoring, and a superstar that can't be shut down. RJ, do yer thang.

 

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meh, electricity went out, missed most of the game

Good recap

"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili

by spursfan87 on Nov 13, 2010 11:57 PM CST reply actions  

your prediction was very close to accurrate :)

Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis

by SpursfanSteve on Nov 13, 2010 11:58 PM CST up reply actions  

finally!!

"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili

by spursfan87 on Nov 14, 2010 12:07 AM CST up reply actions  

even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.

Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis

by SpursfanSteve on Nov 14, 2010 12:10 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Well, you got the prediction in time, at least. And thanks. :)

I smell death... everywhere.

by LatinD on Nov 14, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I’ll be at the game tomorrow, overlooking the game from way way up in the nosebleeds. I’m not positive but i’m pretty sure its a sellout, and I’m not sure if Pop is going to sit anyone out or not. Plus, I’m not sure which matchup it’s going to be: 2 years ago, we could not beat the Thunder. Period. Last year, it was the opposite (i watched Blair get his first 20/20 from roughly 20 rows from the floor). Hopefully, Blair will have another huge game. I like it when he has those. I also like it when the Spurs win whilst I am in attendance. It’s late and i dont have much else to say but I cant sleep so i’m still writing.

RJ’s 3 point percentage, without actually looking up stats, i think has actually been cut in half the past 2 games…and it is still awesome. If he plays even remotely good D against Durant tomorrow, I’ll be happy.

Thoughts on our defense:
everyone keeps pointing to opponents ppg and fg% as indicators of how our D is progressing. I dont think those capture the entire picture. While it would be nice if opponents fg% went down, we are focusing much more on creating turnovers this season. Tony, especially, has been locked in, and dare i say it- maybe one of our best perimeter defenders thus far. As far as how I would like our defense to improve, I think we will be fine if we just get better at finishing off possessions by getting the rebound. Keep them away from the basket and the 3 point line, and get a hand up when they shoot (as Mark Jackson says “hand down man down”), and we should be ok. We’ve been blocking shots and getting turnovers enough.

Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis

by SpursfanSteve on Nov 13, 2010 11:58 PM CST reply actions  

have fun!

Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™

by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Nov 14, 2010 12:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, what c/d said. Also, I hope the game gives you the same warm, fuzzy feeling inside as the Phoenix game did for me.

by Tim C. on Nov 14, 2010 12:51 AM CST up reply actions  

response to “Thoughts on our defense”

I agree that ppg and fg% don’t point to the complete picture. Adding to that the worst 3-point% defense in the league, and a middle of the pack rebounding, the Spurs are not in great defensive shape.

Silver linings – that three point % is the highest but the number of 3’s made by an opponent is 26th in the league. Spurs defensive play per 100 possessions is ranked second in the league.

There is a lot of room for improvement and hopefully we will see it as the season progresses.

"The A-Train deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Nov 14, 2010 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

We’re definitely focusing on creating turnovers. I still can’t decide whether it’s sound strategy or fool’s gold, though.

I smell death... everywhere.

by LatinD on Nov 14, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

I think of it as fools gold if it is the intention. For every gamble of a steal, an easy bucket is given up and rebounding position is hurt. If it happens because our guards have quick feet & hands, and our bigs have solid position to make passing angles more difficult, then it’s more a sign of match-up advantages. I’m not sure which has been more representative of the team so far as I fee like I’ve seen both take place. I’d certainly rather get the fg% down.

Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 14, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

great write up, d! I wish I could type that much up in such a short amount of time.

Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™

by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Nov 14, 2010 12:42 AM CST reply actions  

Ditto.

Basically voted most normal person on PtR.

by Queness on Nov 14, 2010 11:32 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Two of my favorite plays from tonight, and you got them both.

First, Tony’s “Oh, hey! There you are RJ. Thanks for running the floor, even if you are behind me. Why not have a bucket for your trouble?” play.

The point with intangibles is that no one can see them.

by J.R. Wilco on Nov 14, 2010 1:13 AM CST reply actions  

i really enjoyed that play.

Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis

by SpursfanSteve on Nov 14, 2010 1:20 AM CST up reply actions  

even though he didnt RAGE dunk.

Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis

by SpursfanSteve on Nov 14, 2010 1:20 AM CST up reply actions  

How could you expect him to do more when he had to have been so shocked by that pass, that it was only though a superhuman effort of will that he was able to catch the ball and drop it home?

The point with intangibles is that no one can see them.

by J.R. Wilco on Nov 14, 2010 1:24 AM CST up reply actions  

honestly, i half expected him to fumble the ball/travel/miss the shot. I guess somewhere deep inside of me I’m expecting a massive regression to last years form for him- even though theres another part of me that knows it won’t happen.

Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis

by SpursfanSteve on Nov 14, 2010 1:38 AM CST up reply actions  

And the second was Splitter’s baseline reverse layup beauty. He had such a chip on his shoulder during garbage time that it was amazing that he could lift his arm to shoot.

It’s like he was so angry about not getting on the court more, that he decided to take it out on whoever was guarding him. He was diving to the floor for loose balls after the lead was already 25 points. At one point, Pop pulled him and I figured he was done for the game, just like the big 4 (yes, I said it, Bella – deal with it) but in a few minutes he was back out there, and I realized that Pop hadn’t sat him for rest, but had probably instead taken the time to tell him to feel free to dominate, but not to hurt himself, since there’s another game tomorrow.

The point with intangibles is that no one can see them.

by J.R. Wilco on Nov 14, 2010 1:20 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

i noticed both he and blair hit the deck several times tonight after the game was pretty well in hand. Was nice to see that kind of hustle from them- and i know Pop liked it too.

Rim Rockin' Red Rocket -silverandblack_davis

by SpursfanSteve on Nov 14, 2010 1:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Excellent observation, jrw. One of those little gems that keep me coming back to PtR again and again.

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 14, 2010 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

It’s nice to see appropriately directed anger.

Basically voted most normal person on PtR.

by Queness on Nov 14, 2010 11:37 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

too true

The point with intangibles is that no one can see them.

by J.R. Wilco on Nov 15, 2010 1:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Great recap LD

"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich

by bj1der on Nov 14, 2010 1:35 AM CST reply actions  

Yes! How did I not mention that? I really enjoyed it. Thanks a ton, D of Latin.

The point with intangibles is that no one can see them.

by J.R. Wilco on Nov 14, 2010 2:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks, guys. And sparking.

I smell death... everywhere.

by LatinD on Nov 14, 2010 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes! +infinity
I love all the different styles of the recappers here… after the game (especially a win), it’s like getting a wrapped present. What will be in it? The anticipation is delicious, the unwrapping even more so.

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 14, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Osom recap. Thanks, LD.

by sparking!!! on Nov 14, 2010 4:10 AM CST reply actions  

Good Recap. You’ll know if it’s still Tim’s time when the post season comes. That’s where the question can be correctly answered.

Parker’s game has changed as the team has gained more talent. I thought it was a nice pass to RJ to reward him.

I think Manu’s minutes will go down as Hill gets his mojo back. The biggest problem with minutes is that Hill isn’t really a PG, so he needs a guy like Parker and Manu next to him.

I think Pop needs to figure out a way to do something there. This is the one downside to having both Parker and Manu in the starting lineup.

by grego21 on Nov 14, 2010 4:12 AM CST reply actions  

Spookiness!

I did kinda sorta reference sex in my recap, but it was very innocent stuff. Still, anyone can predict that.

The more eerie thing is that both of us referenced raptors and we weren’t playing Toronto, nor had we played them in the recent past. Mind: Blown.

Good writeup though. You’re good at this.

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

by Aaronstampler on Nov 14, 2010 4:14 AM CST reply actions  

Thanks, Stampler. And yeah, you’re getting predictable. Next time start your post with an abstinence reference, and we’ll be shocked. Shocked I tell you.

I smell death... everywhere.

by LatinD on Nov 14, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh, and glad Bonner is back. His benefit is seen even with his first game back.

by grego21 on Nov 14, 2010 4:18 AM CST reply actions  

Totally off subject but we should try to get the rights today rubio. With our spainish influence he would feel rights at home

AKA Anthony Teegarden

by bigtee34 on Nov 14, 2010 8:19 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

I have a feeling this lineup is here to stay.

I agree, at least in terms of the back court. I don’t think Manu playing with the bench is relevant anyway, because Pop is running the rotation where Manu spends ample time as the sole member of the big 3 on the court.

As nice as is was to see him bounce back, I still think by the end of the season Blair will be better served coming off the bench with Tiago in the starting lineup. I think the team is better served with the stronger defensive presence against starters and having Blair’s scoring and energy with the subs.

by Neuwaldegg on Nov 14, 2010 8:52 AM CST reply actions  

+infinity

The main reason I wanted Manu off the bench is that I feel the younger/newer players can benefit and develop faster by playing with him. But if he can both start AND play significant minutes with the bench, great! Like having your cake and eating it too…

Defense with Tiago in last night was stellar…. I too think he’s destined for the starting lineup. The question is when, only Pop knows. And yes, that would help DeBeast return to pre-season and rookie-season form. I just don’t know who is going to have to break it to him, though. :)

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 14, 2010 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Awesome writeup LD. Verra nice. I missed the game, but guess it was not a bad game to miss.

Is this still Timmy’s team?

Oddly enough, I had been musing this (is that even correct English?) for the last few days and was even thinking about writing a fanpost, but you summed it up very nicely. We have RJ, Tony and Manu as three of our four stars, along with the deepest bench we have had in years. Maybe Pop decided to center the offense around them and take some of the pressure off our aging superstar. That also makes up for the lack of a Bowen type defensive specialist, and will also help us against teams with tall guys that are younger than Timmeh and more experienced than Tiago.

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Nov 14, 2010 9:03 AM CST reply actions  

swgeek, I think that it would be great if you posted a fanpost posing the question… it’s a topic deserving of it’s own FP. If you don’t have the time to write one up, I may do so when I get time to pull my thoughts together.

My random thoughts are these (feel free to borrow them w/o attribution should you write that FP):

  • I wouldn’t count Timmy out so quickly. Every time he has a stretch of single-digit games, I start wondering “Is he ‘Groundhog Day’ any more?” “Can he be the consistent 20/10 18/10 15/10 double-double player he was?” — and then he has performance like that 25/17 one against Phoenix where he reminds us, “Don’t stick a fork in me yet… I’m not done.”
  • As you point out, this year’s edition of the Spurs is stacked with offensive firepower. Timmy doesn’t have to score 20 points per game for this team to win… in fact, I’ll go further and say that the team benefits more over the long haul when different players are able to take over different games, or different parts of games. They wouldn’t feel empowered to do so if the team offense was geared to generate 20+ Duncan points per game.
  • Towards the end of David Robinson’s career, I was surprised to see how he started deferring to the young Mr. Duncan on offense, and started focusing more on defense and rebounding. I didn’t understand the game very well back then, so I couldn’t understand why a former league-leading scorer would simply stop scoring and let his protege take over. I think something similar is going on now; as Timmy said in pre-season, he’s been given a pretty good blueprint to follow from David’s example.
  • The flu bug may have been a better ‘defender’ against TD than anyone playing for the Clippers or Sixers. Hopefully the bug won’t be playing for the Thunder today, if we need points from him.
  • As Sean Elliott pointed out yesterday, every NBA player likes to run on offense. It makes for a fun game, the points are easy, etc. If “French Boy” and “Crazy Boy” (Tony and Manu) had their way, this team would out-Sun the Suns, out-gun D’Antoni’s Knicks. Actually, I remember games in past seasons where the Spurs beat “run and gun” teams at their own game (Phoenix for one game in a playoff series if I’m not mistaken), proving that they could win that way too. But we Spurs traditionalists fret that the team this year is turning into Phoenix East, or playing a SW version of NellieBall.
    That should tell us something. It suggests to me that, subconsciously we fear that Timmy’s team isn’t his anymore. But every time we celebrate the Spurs team D improving, or the extra pass leading to the wide-open shot, or the right defensive rotation, or the simple beauty of 4-Down, or our guards channeling their slashers into our bigs, or kicking the ball out of the double team to the right spot-up shooter, or any high BBIQ play/hard work/hustle/good fundamentals, every d*mn time, I think we’re saying, “Yes, it still is Timmy’s team.” Because as Pop might say, “It all starts with the big guy.”

I’m gonna stop now, ‘cause jrw is gonna ask me to write that FP if I add another word. And I’d really like to give you a shot at it first. :)

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 14, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Regarding the high minute count for Manu, I think this is by design but we will know more in the next couple of weeks as the schedule gets tougher. I think they might be changing their approach to rest. Play to win every single game now, rest later and closer to the postseason. That way they are not fighting as hard to be in the playoffs or for playoffs position. Plus the rest comes closer to when it matters. I am thrilled that they have been winning their easy games now. An added benefit is that any injuries occurring now have more time to heal before it matters.

On an aside… “Narigón”? In Panama we never heard of this word. We use Narizón.

"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG

by LasEspuelas on Nov 14, 2010 9:31 AM CST reply actions  

Excellent point and nice new perspective.

Lauri: thank goodness I have you magnificent bastards to waste [the offseason] with.

by swgeek on Nov 14, 2010 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I am thrilled that they have been winning their easy games now.

Ummm… I’m sure that you’ve noticed that they haven’t been “easy” except for last night’s game. The Spurs have this trick of making games harder than they should be, or at least more difficult than one might expect. I’m just thrilled that they’re winning.

But yes, I’m in agreement with every other word you wrote. The Big Three each going to Coach and reminding him that a “W” in November is every bit as valuable as one in March as far as playoff seeding is concerned seems to have had its desired effect; this year’s edition of the Spurs may ‘gel’ earlier than past editions and have the luxury of ‘resting’ closer to the playoffs. It’s too early to be sure of this, as the team has yet to hit it stride, much less play well against the elite of the NBA (or even many teams with winning records).

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 14, 2010 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for a great writeup. I had to miss the game but have it recorded to watch sometime.
I echo the other posters in that I love all the different recap styles. Great job LD.

by Spurlady on Nov 14, 2010 11:50 AM CST reply actions  

Fun recap. I feel as though I learned something new apart from basketball. Yet I’ve forgot it all after the fun hoops stuff.

Is this still Timmy’s team?

As much as it’s been since 2005. It shows itself most after Tax Day. This is how championships are won: guards and a strong bench lead most nights of the regular season, with a HOF big man to lead victories in best of seven series in the spring. I still think of TD as the head, Manu as the heart, Tony as the legs, and the bench as the oh-so sexy region that handles business when needed. Our bench has gotten bigger better.

Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 14, 2010 1:42 PM CST reply actions  

Ahhhh, now there’s the imagery that was missing. lol!

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 14, 2010 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Again, great recap LD. Agree with you 100% about the starters putting their stamp on this game. And in most games so far this year, one of the important factors seems to me to be the way the Spurs come out in the third quarter and hit the other team with a big run to take over the game. The difference last night was that Sixers had no answer, and were held to a dozen (?) points while we posted our second 30+ point quarter of the game.

Maybe at 33 he finally finds it in himself to be That Guy.

Make no mistake about it, Manu always knew that he could be “That Guy” on the Spurs; after all, he’s been “That Guy” on other winning teams in Europe and the Olympics. The interesting thing about him is that he understood that it’s Timmy’s team, and he chooses to defer, because (I believe) he cares more about the team and the team winning than being “That Guy.”

I really don’t think it’s a case of him finding something (new) within himself… he’s just doing what he always has done, doing whatever the team needs him to do, whether it’s coming off the bench, making clutch shots, making the game easy for his teammates, steals, aggressive D, etc. It is who he is… it is what he does.

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 14, 2010 1:57 PM CST reply actions  

Sean Elliot towards the end of the game discussed having had a conversation with Pop as to the reason for so few minutes for Gary Neal in the previous game. While I don’t recall the exact words (and didn’t record the game), this is my interpretation of what he said:
It had nothing to do with matchups, it had everything to do with playing time for George. Pop was not giving playing time according to who had the hot hand, or who might be most helpful for the team for this one particular game. He had to give minutes to George to show confidence in him and to allow him to break out of his slump. If Neal were to have gotten into the game earlier and hit a few 3 pointers, it might have put added pressure on George. For the long haul, he needs George to play well. He did not seem to have any issue with how well Neal would play over the course of the season.

Not quite the words he said, but did anyone think he was making some different point?

by Alamo on Nov 14, 2010 2:16 PM CST reply actions  

I thought Sean said Pop’s response was a matter-of-fact “He isn’t going to play every game.” Being that it’s his first year with the team, I think Pop keeps him out based on match-ups and to keep him fresh over the long haul. Though doesn’t Pop do this with most bench guys that are new? I recall last season that some nights Blair or Dyce would play very little or not at all. Pop does as he does with new guys.

Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 14, 2010 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I must have interpreted too much into it, but it seems Sean’s comments went on to much more than “he’s not going to play every game”.

by Alamo on Nov 14, 2010 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

It was a “he’s not going to play every game, but Hill is…..” type of response.

by grego21 on Nov 14, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I say volunteer more, LD :) Otstanding recap. It’s always a great experience to read your writing.

And that Tim Duncan guy, let’s give him some rest. I’m kinda feeling that he might finally be left off the All-Star consideration in lieu of Tony and Manu, but if this is what it’ll take for the team to win another ring, I’ll gladly take it.

"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire

by silverandblack_davis on Nov 14, 2010 8:41 PM CST reply actions  

and so would Timmy.

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Nov 14, 2010 9:27 PM CST up reply actions  

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