QuickCap #1 - Pacers @ Spurs 10-27-10
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Oct 27, 2010 10:10 PM CDT
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Spurs win 122 - 109
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spurs: “It’s all about our defense. We have to have a defensive identity. They scored 44 in the second half, that’s what it was all about.” - Pop
spurs: With tonight’s 122-109 victory over the Pacers, the San Antonio Spurs are now 13-1 on opening night during the Tim Duncan era.
spurs: Matt Bonner suffered a sprained right ankle in the third quarter of tonight's Spurs-Pacers game. He will not return to tonight's game
JMcDonald_SAEN: The last time the Spurs scored this many pts in an opener, the man two seats to my left (Sean Elliott) was playing. 1994-95.
Awesome wishes it could be Manu.
- TecateBoltsFan in the first game thread.
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by sleep research facility on Oct 27, 2010 10:12 PM CDT reply actions
do i have to start doing some work?
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by sleep research facility on Oct 27, 2010 10:16 PM CDT reply actions
Tim was commenting how efficient RJ played scoring 16 on 6 shots. He also did it in 21 minutes! Anderson played 26.
A casual diehard Spurs fan.
he shot 50% over all 40% from 3, not bad at all
by RamblingSpur on Oct 27, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Very good debut by him considering how many veterans have trouble adjusting to the Spurs. He knew where to get his shots, didn’t force anything and did a credible job on Granger. Granger’s among the best scorers in the league so Anderson’s defense has to be graded on a curve. But on the plus side, most of the guys he’s matched up against will be less of a challenge. He did pass up an open 3-point look in the fourth and then tossed up an ugly shot in the lane, but that’ll come with time.
Jefferson was also good. I did notice that his misses from three and at the line were short.
Asked before the game how Parker has looked, Popovich said, "He’s still cute. "
Ok might as well be the first to say it but all 3 of the big 3 had 20+ points and shot well. Say what you will about the defense but it’s still been a while since THAT has happened.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Another interesting stat: Spurs FT 29/36. That is 80%. I hope that continues.
A casual diehard Spurs fan.
and you’ve just jinxed us.
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by sleep research facility on Oct 27, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
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Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Oct 27, 2010 10:21 PM CDT reply actions
nice hockey assist
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Oct 27, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks, Tim.
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Oct 27, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
CIA Pop
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Oct 27, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
or Hibbert.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Oct 27, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
he gives and he gives and he gives.
You are only young once, but you can be immature for a lifetime
by the little o on Oct 27, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I’ve been high on Hibbert since his Georgetown days. I was actually pissed the Spurs didn’t trade up for him. Thank FSM, it worked out with Georgie,
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Oct 27, 2010 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
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Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Oct 27, 2010 10:26 PM CDT reply actions
The Bird’s got some words about that. . . .
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Oct 27, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey guys, just stopping by. So, um, are we the Warriors yet? =)
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Oct 27, 2010 10:26 PM CDT reply actions
We should have bought those guys some rings, too. We can carry a 24 man roster in the playoffs, right?
"I like the fact that he’s a man." – Hubie Brown on DeJuan Blair
by Manu ex Machina on Oct 27, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Greg Oden is hurt? Shocking! I never would have expected that to happen.
I never take the high road, but I tell other people to, that way there is more room for me on the low road.
poor oden
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by sleep research facility on Oct 27, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
If you haven’t already, refresh the page
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Oct 27, 2010 10:39 PM CDT reply actions
Nice work, CD. I’m putting you in for a raise. You’re a machine.
I never take the high road, but I tell other people to, that way there is more room for me on the low road.
by SinCitySpur on Oct 27, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
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Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Oct 27, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
before griffin was drafted…wasn’t there a lot of talk about how that draft was particularly weak, and he wasn’t that highly regarded and just sort of fell into the number 1?
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by sleep research facility on Oct 27, 2010 10:44 PM CDT reply actions
@FakeCoachPop
We let them score 109. What a joke. This shouldn’t even count as a win. It not like they have Rik Smits anymore
I love FakeCoachPop.
I wish whoever ran that twitter would post on PtR
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Oct 27, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Well… you’re pretty good at stalking, CD…
by DrumsInTheDeep on Oct 27, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
thats….. so true.
Biggest coach Pop/Tiago Splitter homer on the internet™
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on Oct 27, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m wondering if FakeCoachPop is connected with the Onion in some way.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Oct 27, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
oooooooooh shit anyone see brandon roy bury that 3 at the buzzer of half time? damn…
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by sleep research facility on Oct 27, 2010 10:49 PM CDT reply actions
Awesome game threads and quick cap, CD….. sorry I was no help at all today on the GT. :(
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Oct 27, 2010 11:09 PM CDT reply actions
While Tiago was not supposed to suit up for the next game, I would think with Matt likely out with his ankle injury that Tiago might come back a game earlier. The alternative would be to let Gee suit up, but the Spurs would have only 3 bigs for the game. Simmons put in 6 minutes this evening at PF.
Did Blair play only 20 minutes because the defense played poorly while he was in? It seemed the defense actually began clamping down with Simmons in, and then even more so with Dice & Tim playing together. Tiago would be a big help..
They aren’t going to bring Tiago back sooner just because Matt is injured. I think Anderson/Simmons should benefit the most or Blair when it’s a big man.
It is NOLA, so they should be fine without another big*
*already lacks an inside presence
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Oct 27, 2010 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
He was reportedly only sitting out one more game and had been participating in contact drills. Suiting him up doesn’t mean he would necessarily play. Should it wind up that either Tim or Dice has an injury early in the game, that leaves only the other as the only player over 6’7" or so. Perhaps they can re-sign Marcus Cousin if Bonner is expected to miss a week or more?
Not a bad idea, though it would have been nice if Gist were still in the organization.
I think RJ is 6’7" but I don’t believe even he wants to play PF, though he’d do it if asked. Could Gee play a stretch 4 if needed? Since he’d be playing in Bonner’s place, he’d have to pose a credible outside threat behind the arc, but it might be a good chance to see what he can do.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Oct 28, 2010 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions
"I think after New Orleans he’s got a good shot to be ready," Popovich said. "He’s been playing three-on-three now, and he’s been in contact in competitive situations. If we can get another practice or two in, five-on-five and get up and down and see how he comes out of that, I think he’ll probably be ready.
"I wouldn’t expect him for Saturday, but after that I think he’ll be beating my door down."
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I’m pleased with RJ’s first game in his second season with the Spurs.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Oct 27, 2010 11:19 PM CDT reply actions
I do hope every game will not look like this one this year. If we can’t defend better than that, then I might as well start rooting for the Nuggets or the Suns. But some nice things happened in tonight’s game.
George Hill is still struggling, and looks tentative and out of place at times. But I do love that he keeps playing, doesn’t hang his head when he makes a mistake but instead busts his butt to make up for it. And in the second half he finally started hitting his shots and looking more at ease.
Jefferson looks a hundred percent better. No hesitation, no junk. Man, he makes a difference.
I like Anderson.
Bobby Simmons took two shots, and I don’t believe either of them hit the rim. Not pretty.
Duncan played some fantastic Duncan D. His shot looked terrific. He looks great. I just wish he had played fewer minutes. Those last six minutes or so, I was thinking, Why doesn’t Pop just sit him down? They don’t really need him to polish off the Pacers. But I think maybe they wanted to get a few more minutes of play out of that starting five, to keep working on things.
I think Blair was kind of rushing his shots tonight. Maybe trying to do a little too much.
The Big Three all looked healthy and solid. Jefferson, McDyess, Hill, Anderson looked great. I am anxious to see Splitter start playing some minutes.
+1 on your takes on Duncah, Jefferson, and Hill…. and on the need for D.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Oct 28, 2010 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions
ugh Duncan
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Oct 28, 2010 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions
I REALLY wish you’d have left that alone.
Alas…
The point with intangibles is that no one can see them.
That’s the spirit! Just b/c it can’t go into The Lexicon, doesn’t mean that it can’t be a nickname, eh Cap?
The point with intangibles is that no one can see them.
Im way, way, way behind
when did we get Bobby Simmons?
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
came into training camp without a guarantee, came out of it with a contract
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Oct 28, 2010 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions
It’s only one game but somebody should remind him he’s old and on the decline. If you believe most of the articles littering the web, you’d think old man Timmy is done. Every game he proves them wrong is a proverbial slap in the face of his doubters. Case in point, tonight’s game: 23 pts (10-12 FG, 3-5 FT), 12 Reb, 4 BS, 3 Ast, 3 Stl in 33 min. WAPAK! It’s a long season. Prepare to be slapped silly.
Great stuff. Excellent points.
That said, I think my favorite part might be your
WAPAK!
The perfect textual representation of that kung fu sound effect. Nice.
The point with intangibles is that no one can see them.
Great to have these things back….it has been 5 months.Anyhow, if we play crazy like this,I’m fine with it,at least I can’t feel any bad vibes in the locker room (than I can see in MIA).I didn’t watch the game but I just watched the NBA recap.There was a point where IND had cut the lead,IDK if it was a slight collapse or somewhat but I guess we did show good defense and great chemistry.I won’t expect much to save me for future loses but I do wish an 82-0 record but I can say our guys played well.RJ played well so as JA the two guys I really look forward to.And the big three+george…damn if they do play that every night even if it’s low scoring with this kind of intensity….surely we can bring back that D and the old spurs we expect them to be.
"I cry,but everyone will cry if I'm in the NBA"-Adam Morrison.I know now why fans cry when they see him on the floor.
NBA dont want defense!
The days of 80 point games are gone. Sure, spurs have room to improve, but defense in certain situations or end of games what matters. Spurs gotta let there horses run and clamp down in spots. 70% defense, 30% offense won’t cut it. Spurs got the fire power to run and gun! Remember those series with the suns? It was all run and gun until the end when the defense flexed their muscle.
The spurs should not sacrifice the offense for the sake of 100% defensive commitment. Why kick, punch and pull all the way to the finish line, when they easily out sprint 80% of the league?
"If you run, you'll just go to jail tired!" TJ73
by TrooperJoe73 on Oct 28, 2010 1:31 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Why play defense instead of outsprinting 4 out of 5 teams?
1. Defense is (should be) consistent. Even on nights when the shots aren’t falling, the penetrations are shut down, and even the PnR isn’t working, if you ‘bring it’ on defense, you have a chance to win. And while I’m glad to see the Spurs run and get easy buckets, but it doesn’t help to get those if they can’t also prevent or reduce the number of easy baskets made by the opposing team.
2. Though defensive intensity will of course vary throughout the game, you just can’t approach it by saying we’ll be a running team until the fourth quarter and turn on the defense down the stretch. It doesn’t work that way… remember the Spurs Way: Pounding that rock, chipping away at it, being persistent, until it finally cracks and splits in two.
3. Being better than 4 out of 5 teams has never been (and should never be) the goal. To ‘be in the mix’ means that, if you execute your plan, being able to beat any team on any given night (or day game), and especially over a seven-game series. Being able to outsprint 80% of the league would just make the Spurs no different than the Suns.
Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.
Mike Monroe: ...the uninformed presume Parker is expendable.
by freshtunarightofftheboat on Oct 28, 2010 2:17 AM CDT up reply actions
good indications
Wish I could have seen the game, but I’m 7 hours ahead and have classes in the morning.
The box score was more or less what I expected and do expect from the starters. I think this year will be fun to watch because of all the 100+ point games Spurs will have. Seem like outsiders underestimate what a difference it makes to start the year with a healthy Manu. Also they underestimate having RJ in his second year. He knows what to do, so the other stars can now do their thing more easily. If we get off to a good start, eventually the national media will jump on the bandwagon. Why? because a higher scoring Spurs team, is a reason to give them attention. I think the defense will be good, especially with Spiltter. But this could be one of the best offensive Spurs teams in quite some time.
Anderson played all of his minutes filling in for RJ at the SF position, largely due to RJ’s foul problems. Other than the last two minutes of the game, the guard positions were filled exclusively by Tony, Manu & George. I’m wondering how long it might be prior to Anderson getting minutes at the guard position. At SF he’ll likely be playing mainly against taller players, Granger being 2" taller or so.
Anderson didn’t get any time at guard in the preseason, and I wouldn’t expect Pop to start using him there now.
Does “now” mean never? I’ve thought that Pop has been playing him at SF to see how he does there, as he has few other options. I’m not sure he’s played Manu at SF yet, but most would expect Manu will play there next to George & TP. I’d think at some time he’d use both RJ & Anderson next to a PG, depending on the matchups.
Now means “this season” to me, basically. Unless Anderson forces Pop to find more minutes for him at the 2 by playing very well.
Should Pop have to go deeper at the guard positions due to injury, do you think Neal and/or Temple would currently get those minutes rather than Anderson? Personally I think Anderson in the long run would make a much greater impact at SG rather than SF, though the current situation seems to need him more at SF.
Don’t get me wrong, I think Anderson would offer a size advantage at the 2, in addition to his shooting. In fact, he would seem to fit pretty seamlessly into the starting lineup as the designated shooter with Tony and RJ as the slashers. But I think Pop sees something he doesn’t like on defense(for example, I wonder if Anderson has the lateral speed to guard NBA 2’s). It seems like Pop wanted him backing up RJ from the start, especially with the logjam at the 2(Temple, Neal, Hill, Manu).
I agree with Tim. For now, Anderson seems to be firmly ensconced in the backup SF role. Unless Pop decides to bring Manu off the bench again, which would make Anderson the default starter, I don’t think the Spurs will need Anderson at SG. Eventually, Anderson will be able to defend NBA 2s, but I think he’s more comfortable covering 3s on defense. And right now, that’s where the Spurs need him.
With all due respect, gentlemen, we're not as crazy as she is.
If we were to rank who played best in this game, RJ (yes RJ) would be very high up on that ranking. He was solid all around and, had it not been for foul trouble, could have had a really nice night offensively. For those who saw the game, did you notice how intense he was on defense? And his rotations were well timed and accurate. I like what I see in RJ 2.0.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
spurs played hard all night. they played aggressively and took the game to the pacers. loved the effort.
overall, i loved the offensive style of pushing tempo and running more than we normally would. that kind of aggressive style should suit the offensive depth that we seem to have at least in this first game.
yeah, the defense was porous in the first half, but the spurs dialed it down in the second half and particularly during stretch of the fourth quarter.
credit should be given to how well and hard the pacers played. they showed themselves to be a little better than advertised – at least for one night.
it was a fun game to watch. our team played well and won. i’ll take that all day.
Tim had a rather amazing game. He hit 10-12 shots, and it seemed a number of those were from 15 feet or so. I don’t know if there are any shot charting stats up yet, but he looked as though he was playing mainly in the high post and taking shots that looked like I’d expect from Dice. It seemed like he might be adjusting his game in anticipation of playing alongside Blair or Splitter vs. Dice or Bonner. I expect we’ll still see plenty of him in the low post.
This site shows four shots inside 3 ft, and the rest no closer than 14’.
The point with intangibles is that no one can see them.
Either way, amazing is exactly right. In his first stint he went 4-4, had 3 reb 2 stls and an assist. Coming out of the half in his 3Q stint he was 4-4 with an and-one, 2 reb 2 blks and a steal.
It was crucial for us to win those segments and I can’t see how Tim could have played any better.
So the Spurs have a limp Bonner.
Isn’t there medicine for that?
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Oct 28, 2010 2:45 PM CDT reply actions
Possibly.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Oct 28, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
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