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The dilemma of hope

"Let me tell you something friend. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane."   - Red from Shawshank Redemption

I love the movie Shawshank Redemption. True, I am biased because it was shot in my hometown and I've even toured the prison where it was filmed, but it's a great movie that talks about what hope can do for a person. So when I was thinking about the upcoming Spurs season, this quote came to mind. After reading all the posts this summer on PTR that ranged from Trading Tony, to expected rosters, to expected playing time, they got me thinking about last season, the upcoming season, and life within PTR. So jump to find out why I think hope as a Spurs fan can be such a dilemma.

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This past season was my first visiting PTR. I’m from Ohio, so you can imagine how tough it is to find good Spurs information around here. I had been getting the majority of my information from ESPN, we all know how much love the Spurs get from that network, so the news I got was few and far between. So when ESPN started the TrueHoop Network, I was pleased to find 48minutesofhell and to finally have a reliable source for my Spurs information. However that was when there were only 2 members of 48MOH and there were only a few postings during the week.  Since my work was boring, I needed to find someplace else to help make my work day go quicker and that is how I stumbled upon PTR. I started reading the articles and posts and felt it was a great place to quench my thirst for Spurs knowledge, while also getting to meet some great Spurs fans.

Needless to say, I was more jacked up for the last Spurs season than at any time before. I couldn’t believe we had drafted DeJuan Blair, signed Antonio McDyess, and traded for Richard Jefferson. Each day brought with it a greater level of excitement than the last because of the potential the Spurs had. I could also feel the energy from everyone on PTR and that I wasn’t the only one ready for the season. Well….we know how the season turned out and worse, how it ended; in a jumbled mess at the hands of our younger brother the Suns. However, I kept coming back to PTR throughout the summer, continuing my search for Spurs information and getting ready for the new year. I was on Tiago Watch, along with everyone else on PTR, and then followed the re-signing of RJ and wondering who would round out the Spurs roster. And before I knew it, the calendar had turned to October and the season was almost ready to start.

So what does all of this have to do with a quote from the movie Shawshank Redemption? Well I kind of feel that as a fan, as a team, and as a PTR community, this season represents a crossroads. Will the 2nd year be the charm for RJ, McDyess, and Blair? Will George keep improving? Will a rookie make an impact? Will a slow start send the team into panic mode and force them to trade Tony? That sure sounds like a lot of situations that could go either way. And that is only the in-season stuff. How about at the end of the year? The potential lockout looming.  Tony Parker’s potential last season with the Spurs. Possibly Tim Duncan’s last season ever. Coach Pop’s last season if he decides to leave when Tim leaves. And if all or even some of that happens, we will be watching an entirely new Spurs team take us into the rest of this decade led by George, DeJuan, Tiago, and any other Spur who decides to step up this season. And that is why that quote seemed fitting to me. Because I believe the hope in this Spurs team can be dangerous. With every game, every loss, and every day of the season, I'm driven a little more crazy. If you don’t believe me, just ask my wife. My hope in this team makes me lose sight of reality. It clouds my judgment and leads me to irrational thoughts. It seems to cause more pain than it’s worth. And it does the same for this website. Our hope almost turns every Spurs game into a life and death situation. And to quote the great Van Wilder, "if you treat every situation like it's life or death, you'll die a lot of times." So in that sense, Red is right. Hope in this team is dangerous.

But for those of you who have seen Shawshank, you know there is one more famous quote about hope at the end of the movie.

"Remember Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne

That quote is how I truly feel about this team and this organization. Will my hope in this team drive me crazy? Absolutely. But my hope is also a great thing. It gets me up in the morning following a crushing defeat. It makes me check PTR every day, even when it is the slowest part of the season. It gets me excited to watch preseason games! And it gets me excited for this season that will probably determine the next 10 years of this franchise. Do I think the Spurs can win the Championship this season? Of course. Do I think it is going to happen? Probably not. But that doesn’t mean my confidence or faith in this franchise will fade.

So that is why I wrote this post and why I feel that this team and this PTR community are standing at a crossroads. We are standing at a place in the team’s history where none of us know what is going to happen. Not just with this season, but for the foreseeable future. And I think it is best if each one of us stops and takes a minute to figure out what we expect as the new season approaches. Will the pressure of the past and a return to glory get to you? Will the Trade Tony posts start up as soon as the team has a losing streak? Will the ranting and raving about Pop and the rotations start if he hasn’t settled on a lineup by December? Will the atmosphere of the site turn to bickering and sarcasm instead of encouragement and excitement? Or will we realize this team is in good hands and deal with the inevitable bumps in the road? Will we remember the past and how spoiled by success we are? And will we look with anticipation to a future that could have so much potential?

That is the dilemma we face as Spurs fans. It is not whether or not we should have hope, but rather what we are going to allow our hope to do to us. Do we let it drive us crazy or do we let it lead us into the future? That's the choice that we have to make. That is the dilemma we face.  Because hope is dangerous. Because hope is good. But most importantly, because like our Spurs, hope never dies.

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Waw. Amazing post. I loved every second of reading it.
My first rec on a fanpost, and that’s saying something, since I’ve been around since february. Congratulations!

The Eurbro - By Tim C.

by Bakkie009 on Oct 15, 2010 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks! I appreciate the compliment and the rec, especially since there are so many great posts on PTR.

I just felt like this stuff needed mentioned going into such a big year for the Spurs. I saw how rampant and quickly the Trade Tony posts spread last year and I just thought the site would be better off if people thought a bit about their expectations of the Spurs.

by GMac14 on Oct 15, 2010 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really good write up. It reminds me of a quote I saw today, it’s about baseball, but I think it applies.

Roger Angell said this: "What I do know is that this belonging and caring is what our gamers are all about; this is what we come for. It is foolish and childish, on the face of it, to affiliate ourselves with anything so insignificant and patently contrived and commercially exploitative as a professional sports team, and the amused superiority and icy scorn that the non-fan directs at the sports nut (I know this look — I know it by heart) is understandable and almost unanswerable. Almost. What is left out of this calculation, it seems to me, is the business of caring — caring deeply and passionately, really caring — which is a capacity or an emotion that has almost gone out of our lives. And so it seems possible that we have come to a time when it no longer matters so much what the caring is about, how frail or foolish is the object of that concern, as long as the feeling itself can be saved. Naivete — the infantile and ignoble joy that sends a grown man or woman to dancing and shouting with joy in the middle of the night over the haphazardous flight of a distant ball — seems a small price to pay for such a gift."

by Big50 on Oct 15, 2010 3:22 PM CDT reply actions  

As I have gotten older, I care a lot more about politics and world events, and I care a lot less about sports. As much as I enjoy my Spurs, it does seem to me that we have a lot of priorities upside down. Many folks spend such effort and emotion, and money, on sports; and they take sides in political issues and real life and death events as if they are rooting for their team to win. I want people to care, of course. But surely we can approach our sports with a little more good-natured cheer and treat them like the fun but trivial things they are. And save our seriousness and caring for the actual serious things going on in the world, of which there are many.

by quincyscott on Oct 15, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

cf. “Roman Empire” “bread and circuses”

Hey, if posting a sharp, insightful, yet non-sarcastic comment were that easy, even olf would do it.

by freshtunarightofftheboat on Oct 15, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sad but true. It’s amazing how quickly congress acts to keep people’s cable TV affordable, or investigate steroids in the major leagues. I guess sports is one of the few things people of any stripe can agree on, so there is little political risk.

by quincyscott on Oct 15, 2010 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK, I think I’m being a killjoy here. Go Spurs, Go!

by quincyscott on Oct 15, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

But surely we can approach our sports with a little more good-natured cheer and treat them like the fun but trivial things they are. And save our seriousness and caring for the actual serious things going on in the world . . .

The funny thing is, it’s just that type of person—the person who isn’t afraid to care about the serious matters in life and in the world—who is likely to be a Spurs fan. And being that sort of organization is what, paradoxically, makes me care that much more about the Spurs.

I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.

by Lauri on Oct 19, 2010 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah Lauri. Its like we are an open book to you. :)

by LionZion on Oct 21, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well said indeed, GMac.

I rarely ever post on here, normally I just read. But when you said you were from where Shawshank was filmed, I had to say something. I’m from Bucyrus, so I’m only about a half hour from Mansfield Penitentiary. A couple of my high school teachers were extras in the movie! I just thought it was cool to see another Spurs fan from north central Ohio!

by jkalb on Oct 15, 2010 3:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks. I’m glad you decided to post something. And that’s pretty cool that you’re from Bucyrus. I’m up near Akron now, but that is pretty crazy to have another Spurs fan on this site that is from Ohio. I think I remember one other person saying they were from Ohio, but there definitely can’t be more than a handful of Spurs fans in the state. How did you start liking the Spurs?

by GMac14 on Oct 15, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

How did you start diggin’ the stonecutters GMac, if you don’t mind me asking? The Ohio aspect is interesting.

by In the 666 on Oct 15, 2010 7:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

David Robinson is how I started liking the Spurs. Growing up, I didn’t really follow any specific teams, but I liked certain players. I think it all started with liking Joe Carter when he was with the Indians. He went to Toronto and I just followed him and started liking the Blue Jays. So I liked David Robinson and what a great player and person he was, and I’ve been a Spurs fan ever since. Pretty good role model to grow up watching and a great franchise to root for.

by GMac14 on Oct 15, 2010 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right on GMac, I like ‘em because I’m a homer… I’ve been ridiculously lucky & spoiled by geography. Cowboys, Spurs, Longhorns & Stars; all TX & all not bad at all… It’s very nice to hear appreciation for a good team (I just wish some of the aforementioned would apply the same philosophy & work ethic as the Spurs’ organization)… Good guys man, the good guys wear black.

Jim Brown wad a man amongst Jr High boys too… Pay attention Marion (Jones) Barber.

by In the 666 on Oct 15, 2010 9:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

“was”… oof.

by In the 666 on Oct 15, 2010 9:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hey, I’m a San Antonio native, but when I was in my teens I became a devoted Browns fan. I loved their uniforms. So old school! I loved the old films of Jim Brown. I loved the sure hands of Ozzie Newsome. The Dog Pound. I loved how slow, awkward Bernie Kosar succeeded through smarts and pinpoint passing. Bryan Brennan got it done, despite being undersized. And my favorite player was Ernest Byner. He is still one of my favorite all time NFL players. He was my favorite 21 long before Duncan wore it.

Weird, huh? There’s kind of karma reading about your love of the Spurs. Just so you know, I mourned when Byner fumbled that ball on the one yard line. I felt betrayed when Modell packed the team and moved to Baltimore. I hated the irony of the Ravens winning a Super Bowl not long afterwords. And more recently, I felt a lot for Cleveland fans when Lebron James left in the circus manner that he did. Do I need to even mention the Indians? Or Craig Ehlo? That’s a lot of bad stuff to deal with. I am glad that Ohioans have the Buckeyes, who have done them proud in recent years. Maybe Jim Tressel’s sweater vests did the trick.

I have never even been to Ohio, but I feel an attachment to the state because of my love of the Browns, way back when. I still think the Browns have the most beautiful football uniform. I still root for Cleveland in general. No city can have that many bad breaks in sports without something going right, eventually.

by quincyscott on Oct 15, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Ohio fans have had it rough when it comes to sports moments. The Lebron “decision” being the latest installment. The funny thing with me is that I don’t like any Ohio teams. Not even Ohio State. And truthfully, I hate Ohio State the most of the sports teams. My dad was from Maryland and moved to Ohio to be with my mom. So he still likes all the teams he did growing up. So I basically got the idea that I didn’t have to root for the home town team from him and I’ve been feeling that way my entire life. I love being a Spurs fan around here and it was extra sweet when I got to wear my Spurs jersey to work during the Finals a few years ago when they swept the Cavs!

by GMac14 on Oct 15, 2010 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m from Ohio too. I live in Dayton. Following the spurs for me just started out as respect for David Robinson, then respect for how well the organization was run. After they got Duncan Manu and Parker I was a full blown fan. At that point in time the Cavs sucked! Never jumped off on the Lebron bandwagon, I was thrilled when the Spurs swept them in the finals! Nice to know there are other Ohio Spurs fans

by NotDeadYet on Oct 15, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Personally, Shawshank Redemption is right up there with The Dark Knight on my list of most overrated movies. Stephen King just does not push my buttons. Having said that, I still think this is a really great post, and does a fine job of summing up the anticipation and uncertainty of this upcoming season.

by quincyscott on Oct 15, 2010 6:47 PM CDT reply actions  

The final roster?

Any thoughts on the last roster trimming? Personally, I think it is now or never if they think Gist will help as the last big; he won’t go to Austin with the big bucks in Europe. Anyone think Gee needs one more yr in Austin (or ready for a call-up); or will they offer Cousin a one/two yr deal in Austin for development/call-up and/or competition for one (maybe two) big spots next yr with Ryan Richards? Certainly looks like Jerrells is odd man out if the Spurs don’t find another job in the organization for him (see Jacque Vaughan) Maybe a college scout? Anyone think Simmons will be finalized UNTIL James Anderson/someone else is ready for the backup 3 position? Would the following list be incomplete – PF, Duncan, McDyess, Gist; SF- Jefferson, Simmons, Bonner; C-Splitter, Blair; PG-Parker, Hill, Temple; SG-Ginobili, Neal, Anderson

by comsys on Oct 15, 2010 8:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow. This is great stuff.

"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich

by bj1der on Oct 15, 2010 8:11 PM CDT reply actions  

And just wanted to say thanks to whomever front paged this. I really appreciate it and took it as a compliment.

by GMac14 on Oct 15, 2010 8:53 PM CDT reply actions  

It was well deserved. If not me, someone else would have done it. I mean, just look at all those recs.

by Tim C. on Oct 16, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks Tim. I love reading your stuff on here, so I take it as a big compliment that you front paged it. I just felt like the criticism seemed to be a little unwarranted last season and things got negatively pretty quickly. Hopefully this year it will stay a little more positive as the Spurs hopefully put together another great season.

by GMac14 on Oct 16, 2010 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I stumbled upon this site at the same time, and the same way. Except I found SpursReport before 48MoH. Great post though, love Shawshank Redemption.

by NinjaRabbi on Oct 16, 2010 12:49 AM CDT reply actions  

The quotes are great(it made me remember about the movie).Anyhow,I just felt that it is not only hope but also patience,since like in David’s start in his career,SA was having ups and downs and fans stood by their side,it just shows you how people love this team and how great SA’s fans are.I think personally I should have faith,hope and patience for this team.And I really think PtR is one of the best place to read and interact with fellow fans.Great post.Rec’d :)

"I cry,but everyone will cry if I'm in the NBA"-Adam Morrison.I know now why fans cry when they see him on the floor.

by tp_09 on Oct 16, 2010 3:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Exactly. You’ve gotta have patience in your team and faith in the team. Especially when you look at how good the Spurs have consistently been over the past decade. Not many fan bases have been as spoiled as we have (and living in Ohio and having all the media coverage of the Cavs I’m reminded of that all the time).

by GMac14 on Oct 16, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow great post. Rec’d.

After reading your post I felt like picking up a sword and a shield, and screaming “FREEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM”

by SaSleepless on Oct 16, 2010 6:55 AM CDT reply actions  

+1

"He was just a young skinny guy who looked like a winner. We didn’t know he was going to be as good as he is."
—Popovich on Manu Ginobili

by spursfan87 on Oct 16, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

“Nice speech, now what do we do?”

Rec’d

"The A-Train deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html

by Joe deLarios on Oct 16, 2010 10:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Great post, GMac! What is being a sports fan but an exercise in hope each and every year. Over the years, I’ve learned to view that hope as a positive, concentrating on the good.

With all due respect, gentlemen, we're not as crazy as she is.

by CapHill on Oct 16, 2010 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

And you can see that when you read your comments. While a little sarcastic (lol), you always try to stay positive and that’s greatly appreciated. And I’ve really enjoyed your GTK posts this offseason, so thanks for all the hard work in putting those together.

And I can’t wait to see what Anderson can bring to the team this year.

by GMac14 on Oct 16, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Recced, my good man. Honestly, I can’t enjoy sports is it’s not through hope-colored glasses. I can be moderate in real life, and victory is that much sweeter when you’ve fallen 100 times.

I smell death... everywhere.

by LatinD on Oct 16, 2010 1:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for the rec LD. And I agree, I couldn’t imagine watching sports and bing pessimistic all the time. And it’s so great to have a team like the Spurs, who you know will keep getting up and fighting, no matter how many times they may have fallen.

by GMac14 on Oct 16, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a fan, specially a Spurs fan, ‘Hope springs eternal’.

Great post. And oh,rec’d.

by TD21 on Oct 17, 2010 12:20 AM CDT reply actions  

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